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Tea party Rep. Trey Gowdy on
‘defund’ strategy: ‘We have
absolutely nothing to show for it’

Daily Caller, by Jamie Weinstein

Original Article

Posted By:Pluperfect, 10/18/2013 4:55:23 PM

South Carolina Republican Rep. Trey Gowdy doesn’t think the GOP’s “defund Obamacare” strategy turned out to be such a smart plan. “What did Republicans get for 16 days of a government shutdown with people being hurt? We have absolutely nothing to show for it, other than a damaged brand,” the tea party favorite told The Greenville News, noting that Republicans were ultimately forced to capitulate to the president. Gowdy said that the GOP ended up worse off after the 16-day shutdown than the party had been beforehand. “We had a government shutdown, we were at the precipice of hitting the debt ceiling and

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Bingo, Congressman.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: losgatos, 10/18/2013 5:08:32 PM     (No. 9571656)

Trey Gowdy for President! He actually has a brain.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: golden, 10/18/2013 5:09:47 PM     (No. 9571657)

establishment type pubbies have been outed now. We can now focus on primary challenges..

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Reply 3 - Posted by: jsanders, 10/18/2013 5:14:15 PM     (No. 9571660)

I would disagree. We now know who will stand and fight based on principles and represent the people who voted them in and who will fold like a cheap lawn chair (Bohner) and who will prostitute themselves for money and screw the taxpayer (McConnell). Those who voted against the American Taxpayer now have targets firmly affixed to their backs for all to see.


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Reply 4 - Posted by: StormCnter, 10/18/2013 5:25:02 PM     (No. 9571670)

I have always liked Gowdy. Congratulations to those whose district he represents. Obviously, he understands that this particular defund tactic wasn´t the barricade to die on.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: ruready?, 10/18/2013 5:26:33 PM     (No. 9571673)

Trey, I love you to death, but we have even less to show for Benghazi.

Also, I think we tanned Obama´s hide on the government shutdown. 37% - he´s no better than Bush and he knows that we know it. The look on Obama´s face indicates he took a good lick. It also brought a laser focus on the Obamacare debacle - just when we needed to focus on it.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: bluehouse, 10/18/2013 5:39:52 PM     (No. 9571683)

I´m disappointed in Gowdy. Rather than criticize Obama or Reid for refusing to negotiate and being malevolent during the shutdown, he elbows his way into the circular firing squad.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: fireman28, 10/18/2013 5:45:28 PM     (No. 9571688)

Thanks # 7 for a good comment.
The enemy is not the TEA party.

Met Gov Nikki Haley (SC) last night. She gave a great speech of what SC is doing. There is a bright future for states who have leaders like her.

Yes, we now know which Congresskritters to Primary next year.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: lawdoc, 10/18/2013 5:48:19 PM     (No. 9571691)

the end game was not to defund Obamacare. Everyone know that would not happen. The purpose, Which was very successful, was to show that the establishment republicans, when push comes to shove, support the dems at the expense of the conservative/libertarians. It is true the GOP did not win in this. The small government folks won by showing the country the way, just likes the GOP showed the Whigs the way in times past.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Msctex1, 10/18/2013 6:01:00 PM     (No. 9571699)

You have to look at this as an investment, with dividends to be reaped in the future. Cruz fought a battle he knew he would lose, and put up a valiant fight against a disaster which we know is coming, but which the majority of Americans see as either innocuous or a good thing. When bodies are piling up -- and people will die as a result of this if it is allowed to continue, of that there is no doubt -- we will have the incredible luxury of being able to say that we tried to warn people, and at the top of our lungs. Rep. Gowdy is not looking at the big picture, nor recognizing just how bad this is going to be.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Coy860, 10/18/2013 6:07:47 PM     (No. 9571706)

Congressman Gowdy, you have the thanks of grateful Americans and admiration for standing strong.
Failure is an opportunity. Had Republicans been united, this could have had a different outcome. Next time, we will know how better to get our message out and turn the tables on democrats and the liars in the White House. Pressure on the leadership to put out a cohesive message would help.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Amanoftwistsandturns, 10/18/2013 6:08:07 PM     (No. 9571707)

Trey is right and I hope he goes after Lindsey Graham´s Senate seat .

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Moritz55, 10/18/2013 6:09:18 PM     (No. 9571709)

#9, if that´s true, if the end game was solely to "out" the establishment Republicans, then shame on those who came up with that plan, claiming that their real goal had to do with actual governance and concern for our country´s fiscal health. Such an end game is even more cynical than the Democrats on their worst day ever.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: PI65, 10/18/2013 6:11:36 PM     (No. 9571713)

He is 100 percent correct.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: stablemoney, 10/18/2013 6:12:22 PM     (No. 9571715)

McConnell has a couple billion to show for it.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: killerbee, 10/18/2013 6:32:53 PM     (No. 9571734)

It sounds to me like he´s ticked off at the establishment Republicans who caved and shot their more brave brethren in the back.

Show me where he´s criticizing Cruz or Lee. He says people have to go home and see where they are with their public service. That doesn´t sound like an admonishment to Tea Party Republicans, it sure sounds like a stink-eye to McCain, Graham, King et. al.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: yuban, 10/18/2013 6:38:12 PM     (No. 9571737)

The Moderates love this article. You can tell by how many posts they have made. They love to blame the TP for all the GOP problems. Ya know, kinda like the Left and the media blaming the TP for all the ills of the country. The Moderates , the Left and the media should really get a room. The TP has not been in charge of anything and yet everything is their fault. Simply amazing.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Starlady, 10/18/2013 6:44:56 PM     (No. 9571743)

I really like Congressman Gowdy, but he is wrong on this issue. I respect Trey Gowdy, but I view Senator Cruz as much more courageous. Ted Cruz is fighting for everyperson USA, Trey Gowdy is inspiring, but has self limited.
Reports are Gowdy will not run against Miss Lindsey, so he is not one of the bravehearts we need to get rid of the dead wood of the GOP


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Reply 18 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 10/18/2013 6:46:05 PM     (No. 9571745)

That´s why they´re the Republican´ts

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Reply 19 - Posted by: chumley, 10/18/2013 6:46:31 PM     (No. 9571746)

Yes, they were FORCED to capitulate. That beats cheerfully volunteering to do it, which has been the Republican strategy up to now.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: BuckeyeRon, 10/18/2013 6:54:07 PM     (No. 9571753)

Trey is one of the good guys, IMHO. Read this article and the originals in his hometown papers and he seems to be critical of Zero. Even though he doesn´t appear to agree that this was just a battle in a long war, I´d take him and his ´country smarts´ (not to mention his experience as a prosecutor) over Lindsey Graham and most other Repub members of congress.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Rafter, 10/18/2013 6:58:09 PM     (No. 9571758)

I´m with Cruz, not with Gowdy, on this one.

Fighting is good, it energizes the troops and exasperates the demented enemy.

O-Bomber was outed as a monstrous jackass for his treatment of veterans.
People will definitely remember that.
Voters are a jury.
Anyone involved in a jury trial can tell you the jurors decide for themselves
what to focus on.

My bet is that the combination of O-BomberKommieKare´s devastation of all
our lives, plus POTUS POS´ snarky
hateful attitude on display,
will finally come back to bite him.

Midterms in year six of a presidency are almost guaranteed to cost the party
of the POTUS, and the Senate races favor the GOP already. The House should hold, too.

Too bad it takes this long, but someday soon our long national nightmare will end.

And the O-Bomber era will be viewed as an American psychotic episode that nearly
killed Uncle Sam and the American dream, but in the end could not.


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Reply 22 - Posted by: JAN, 10/18/2013 7:02:47 PM     (No. 9571761)

IMHO this guy likes to put on a show for the TV cameras and now he´s creating an own goal?

Blech.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: agrippa123, 10/18/2013 7:42:21 PM     (No. 9571793)

Newsflash, Mr. Gowdy:

The goal was to lose.

Obama doesn´t have the humility to admit his signature legislation is a total failure, and won´t delay it. The exit has been cut off by the "extremist" Cruz.

There was only one outcome for the Congressional process. Cruz is a single vote in the Senate minority and knew he couldn´t affect the parliamentary outcome.

The difference is all in how the events of of the past month and coming three months are framed.

This was not about Congressional processes, it was about communication.

Obama has no good political moves, if Obamacare is as much of a train wreck as it appears to be today. And Cruz has set himself up to be the only guy in the room who recognized it.

This was a gamble on the near term effectiveness of Ocare. Cruz staked his career and reputation on Obamacare falling on its face. The Republican party (minus primaried statists) will cash in his winning next year.

Or, if Obamacare succeeds, Cruz will fade into oblivion.

It´s time for Republicans to bet the farm on their principles.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: OhMy, 10/18/2013 8:39:48 PM     (No. 9571848)

The only problem with the shutdown is that it didn´t last long enough. Just keep on refusing to raise the debt ceiling and if Obama dares to usurp the power of the purse defy him and warn those who make the loans that the borrowing was not authorized and so the money is not part of the nations obligations. The disaster was theoretical this time but after Obama collapses the economy and currency the disaster will be real and will happen no matter what vote anybody takes. That day is coming sooner rather than later because of this squalid deal. Is there nobody in this den of thieves that can warn the populace where this is headed?

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Reply 25 - Posted by: 10chuckarnold65, 10/18/2013 9:22:03 PM     (No. 9571886)

This guy could not be more wrong, anybody who says nothing was gained by this probably needs to leave the world of Politics for ever. This effort has, among other things, all but assured that we´ve seen the last of Harry after his next election.

I don´t care who you are, no politician can survive a comment like Reid made about letting little children with cancer die until they get what they want. Gowdy doesn´t know what he´s talking about, although I do agree Repubs should have let it go past the deadline, just so people could see they were being lied to by Democrats and the MSM(yeah I know, whats new here)

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Agility, 10/18/2013 9:37:40 PM     (No. 9571903)

His comments in this article and on the radio I heard earlier this week were critical of the strategy. Cruz was using the voice of the people to get the folks in DC to oppose OCare. House members did, but Senate did not. And Boehner negotiating and prior caves hurt negotiating power.

But it was vital for the GOP to put up some opposition to this horrendous system. These GOP leaders think without Cruz that their base would be with them? No, if there had not been a fight they would either sit out the next elections or vote 3rd party. Folks wet totally frustrated. Now there is some hope that there are some in the GOP listening and willing to fight,

And this should help with all the folks that are losing their policies and finding out that OCare is unaffordable.

And Obama was shown to be a mean spirited bully by his actions using the NPS.

The House GOP puts on some fine shows in committees but have accomplished nothing. What happened to fast and furious. Benghazii was a yr ago. Nothing. IRS nothing. Where are the select committees? How about the seal team that was shot down and killed. Lots of show, but no effective action.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: JoElla Bee, 10/18/2013 11:25:11 PM     (No. 9571988)

FTA:"While poll numbers for President Obama and Democrats in Congress dropped during the shutdown, the opinion of Republicans in Congress suffered the worst. The public generally pinned most the blame for the shutdown on the GOP, according to polls.

An NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll taken during the shutdown even found President Obama’s health-care law shot up in the public’s estimation during the shutdown, despite the troubled launch of Obamacare’s online exchanges. Before the shutdown, just 31 percent of the public said Obamacare was a “good idea,” while during the shutdown 38 percent of the public indicated they thought the law was a “good idea.”


This poll was discussed here. It was exposed as fraudulent. Principle should take precedence over polling period, but fraudulent polls surely shouldn´t have any part in decision making.

I like and respect Congressman Gowdy very much. I have no doubt that he chooses principle over polls. I disagree that this was a mistake. I hope he does go home and reflect that the only way we come out of this with nothing to show for it is if the opportunity is missed to stand together to educate the public about why "ObamaCare" is harmful.

I believe that no mistake we ever make in trying to do what is right for this country will be as bad as failing to stand together in the fight against those who are truly doing harm by trying to fundamentally transform our country from a Constitutional Republic into something different. "ObamaCare" is a major part of that planned transformation. It is about government control.


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Reply 28 - Posted by: Bohallx, 10/19/2013 10:25:01 AM     (No. 9572467)

Gowdy only thinks he´s smart ~ he´s following polls again.

He should learn to use his head

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GREENSBORO, Ga. — Golf holes the size of pizzas. Soccer balls on the back nine. A mulligan on every hole. These are some of the measures — some would say gimmicks — that golf courses across the country have experimented with to stop people from quitting the game. Golf has always reveled in its standards and rich tradition. But increasingly a victim of its own image and hidebound ways, golf has lost five million players in the last decade, according to the National Golf Foundation, with 20 percent of the existing 25 million golfers apt to quit in the next few years. People under 35 have especially spurned the game, saying it takes too

Obama: ´For me, Easter is a story of hope,
a belief in a better day to come´

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Investor´s Business Daily, by Andrew Malcolm    Original Article
Posted By: SurferLad- 4/19/2014 9:16:36 AM     Post Reply
Hi, everybody. For millions of Americans, this time of year holds great meaning. Earlier this week, we hosted a Passover Seder at the White House, and joined Jewish families around the world in their re-tellings of the story of the Exodus and the victory of faith over oppression. And this Sunday, Michelle, Malia, Sasha, and I will join our fellow Christians around the world in celebrating the Resurrection of Christ, the salvation he offered the world, and the hope that comes with the Easter season. These holy days have their roots in miracles that took place long ago. And yet, they still inspire us, guide us, and strengthen us today. They remind us of our

Harry Reid calls dissident Nevada ranchers
´domestic terrorists´ following show of
force against the federal government

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Daily Mail [UK], by David Martosko    Original Article
Posted By: Attercliffe- 4/19/2014 9:29:17 AM     Post Reply
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Thursday that a family of dissident ranchers and their supporters in his home state of Nevada are ´domestic terrorists,´ citing this week´s standoff with the federal government´s Bureau of Land Management. Cliven Bundy has refused to pay grazing fees for land where his hundreds of cattle roam every day. The land is owned by the federal government, which says he owes more than $1 million. Bundy, however, insists that since his family has been using the land since the 1870s, Uncle Sam can´t collect the grazing fees. A tense standoff developed this week after

Pelosi assists in Holy Week
foot-washing ritual

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San Francisco Chronicle, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: Harlowe- 4/18/2014 11:46:54 AM     Post Reply
To "honor the dignity and work of immigrants," Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi helps Bishop Marc Andrus wash the feet of two children Thursday at Saint John the Evangelist Episcopal Church in San Francisco. Pelosi also used the occasion to talk about passing HR15 - bipartisan immigration legislation that her office says would "reduce the deficit by nearly $1 trillion, secure our borders, unite our families, protect our workers and provide an earned pathway to citizenship." The Democratic leader´s ceremony coincides with Pope Francis´ similar ceremony in Rome to mark Holy Week.

Ted Cruz, Invoking Reagan,
Angers GOP Colleagues
but Wins Fans Elsewhere

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Wall Street Journal, by Monica Langley    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/19/2014 8:09:17 AM     Post Reply
WASHINGTON--Rushing to an afternoon vote last month, Sen. Ted Cruz hopped the underground tram to the U.S. Capitol from his office across the street. The Texan planted his black ostrich cowboy boots in the middle of the small subway car without getting so much as a nod from the other senators--Republican or Democrat--amiably chatting or huddled in their seats. Mr. Cruz finds himself standing alone a lot these days. His response to the cold shoulders: "The establishment despised Ronald Reagan" before he became president, "but the people loved him." For the 43-year-old Republican, the Reagan name illuminates his political life´s

Deadbeat on the Range
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New York Times, by Timothy Eagan    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 3:52:52 PM     Post Reply
Imagine a vendor on the National Mall, selling burgers and dogs, who hasn’t paid his rent in 20 years. He refuses to recognize his landlord, the National Park Service, as a legitimate authority. Every court has ruled against him, and fines have piled up. What’s more, the effluents from his food cart are having a detrimental effect on the spring grass in the capital. Would an armed posse come to his defense, aiming their guns at the park police? Would the lawbreaker get prime airtime on Fox News, breathless updates in the Drudge Report, a sympathetic ear from Tea Party Republicans?


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