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Holy war in Harlem:
Pastors want Al Sharpton out

New York Daily News, by Simone Weichselbaum

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Posted By:StormCnter, 10/14/2013 5:22:52 AM

The prince of the pulpit may have a revolution on his hands. Four upstart clergymen have invited more than 100 churches to knock Rev. Al Sharpton off his Harlem political throne. Speak Out Say It Loud, headquartered at Mount Neboh Baptist Church on Adam Clayton Powell Blvd., is a new coalition of black ministers determined to create a unified African-American power base with citywide clout. Mount Neboh pastor Johnnie Green, 51, said Sharpton has neglected black New York while pursuing national fame and acclaim. “While (Sharpton) is jet-setting around the country, people are going to our churches saying they don’t have money to eat,”


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Reply 1 - Posted by: pineledger, 10/14/2013 6:05:27 AM     (No. 9564134)

Best news I´ve read in weeks.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: ROLFnader, 10/14/2013 7:26:10 AM     (No. 9564165)

Thanks Ben Shapiro. That didn´t take long!

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Reply 3 - Posted by: gaeditor, 10/14/2013 8:22:36 AM     (No. 9564238)

There are enough destitute people in Harlem that these ministers are concerned about them having enough food for them to eat?? 1000 people could probably be fed for a week off of one of Sharpton´s suits alone!

Where is Obama? Where is Cory Booker? Where is Mich...oh wait, never mind...she´d bring poached tofu....Shelia Jackson Lee? Eleanor Holmes? Ellijah Cummings? I know they don´t ´represent´ Harlem (but neither does Sharpton). They no heart, no conscience??What about "their people"? Boy they´d claim them for a dime in donations or for props in a photo opp!

This is a test, they´ve all failed!!!

Where are they all? All the so-called "Afro-American Leaders"? I see four in this article, doing their jobs as Christians should, but where are their "Democrat Leaders"?

MIA like all Democrats are....

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Reply 4 - Posted by: StormCnter, 10/14/2013 8:51:32 AM     (No. 9564284)

Doesn´t Bill Clinton still have that Harlem office? The one we paid way too much for every month?

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Reply 5 - Posted by: SaguaroJack, 10/14/2013 9:00:04 AM     (No. 9564300)

Reverend Al, a crook? a phony? uncaring about your average Harlemite?

Only took ´em two decades to figger that out?

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Reply 6 - Posted by: janjan, 10/14/2013 9:06:51 AM     (No. 9564308)

They don´t get food stamps in Harlem?

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Hobbiest, 10/14/2013 9:10:34 AM     (No. 9564316)

Tavis Smiley went off the reservation last week on Hannity, admitting that blacks are doing worse under Obama and that he needs to be held accountable. In fact many of the leaders the media anoints as speaking for all of black America do not have the interests of most black Americans at heart.

While I suspect the anti-Sharpton forces aren´t conservative, it is positive for a major media outlet to note that black America does have other voices than Sharpton, Jackson and company.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Udanja99, 10/14/2013 9:22:13 AM     (No. 9564330)

Why do I not believe that people in Harlem don´t have money to eat? If that´s remotely true it´s because they are selling their EBT cards and spending the money on other things. Drugs? Air Jordan´s? Flat screens? What´s the obesity rate in Harlem?

Cynical? He!! Yes!

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Freeloader, 10/14/2013 9:25:32 AM     (No. 9564338)

Holy War in Harlem? The prince of the pulpit?...Remember Freddie´s Fashion Mart? Sorry Professor Weichselbaum, but "Reverend" Alfred and "holy" blends together about like oil and water does...They don´t!

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Reply 10 - Posted by: zzzghy, 10/14/2013 9:34:46 AM     (No. 9564364)

Lame. None of this means anything. This is a group that will never, ever, get it together. If they could, they would´ve done it by now.

The United States has bent over backwards for decades to conciliate the black population, and for what? A few million illegitimate, helpless hopeless kids? Rap? Hip hop?

Black America hates White America. After all we´ve been through, after all that has happened, White America is considered the enemy. There is no fixing this.

Like I said, if Black America could get it together, they would´ve done it by now. This conversation can serve no further purpose. This is who we are, and this is what we have.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: M2, 10/14/2013 9:55:40 AM     (No. 9564408)

The motivation behind kicking Sharpton out isn´t very good. They want him out because he isn´t doing enough for blacks in Harlem.

“While (Sharpton) is jet-setting around the country, people are going to our churches saying they don’t have money to eat,” the Dallas native said. “People need somebody to fight for them.”

...and therein lies the mindset of blacks in this instance; instead of doing for themselves, they want someone to do it for them, even the pastors. They´ve got "money to eat" - they have almost unlimited access to food stamps and welfare, courtesy of the American taxpayers. If they want something better, if they want black representation, they have the Black Caucus in Congress. If that doesn´t appeal, they should run for office.

If there is black hunger in those black neighborhoods, change the black culture to ostracize, not embrace, those who do drugs and eschew family values.

I sympathize, but mainly because they don´t seem to care about changing their destructive culture; they want it accepted by their own communities as "black culture", when it is that very culture that causes hunger, crime, broken families and school dropouts. They have created their own apartheid. Sharpton isn´t their real problem.

They don´t need others to help them. They need to take matters into their own hands from the pulpits.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: comstock, 10/14/2013 9:59:50 AM     (No. 9564424)

Does that mean the Media will stop using his phony "Reverend" moniker whenever referring to him? What seminary did he attend?

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Arby, 10/14/2013 10:03:54 AM     (No. 9564430)

Wow. They´re on the case. How long did it take them to figure out that he´s a liar and a fraud?

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Reply 14 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 10/14/2013 10:06:03 AM     (No. 9564437)

@#12: Sharpton attended the theological seminary of `What`s Happenin` Now`....

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Reply 15 - Posted by: forward, 10/14/2013 10:08:05 AM     (No. 9564441)

It only took them three decades to figure this one out!

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Reply 16 - Posted by: mulhaven, 10/14/2013 10:15:19 AM     (No. 9564450)

If that racist Sharpton would lose his venomous clout, that would be progress for civility.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Namma, 10/14/2013 10:25:42 AM     (No. 9564463)

most republicans know Sharpton is a fraud.
just like most know that the guy in the WH is a fraud. but these people keep voting them back into office. What..now they are really really really hungry...so much so that their tummies hurt..why could they not see Sharpton for what he is..oh wait, cause he hands out turkeys for Thanksgiving.which are actually dontated by business´s. but he takes the credit...

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Felixcat, 10/14/2013 10:31:20 AM     (No. 9564475)

I don´t care about Sharpton. I don´t care about poor blacks in Harlem not having enough to eat (ha - that´s a joke!). I don´t care about these black reverends or their denominations You all voted for Obama because you are all idiots and unable to think for yourselves. If the country were to collapse tomorrow, none of you would survive. I and my family will. Tough.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: strike3, 10/14/2013 10:32:22 AM     (No. 9564477)

For people like Obama, Sharpton and JJ, it´s all about the suits, the limos and the podium. They don´t even know who their real people are. If blacks could climb the ladder by themselves and forget about the imaginary racism, the race baiters could not build their careers on the alleged misery of others.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: bigfatslob, 10/14/2013 10:54:07 AM     (No. 9564516)

I´m still skeptical about the four upstart clergymen. All of the people should stand back and question this because they voted for Obama and Clinton and are still in the same fix.
I´m tired of the cliche´ starving people and children maybe the upstart preachers want a piece of the race pie proceeds and Sharpton is hogging it all along with JJ.
We´ll see how this shakes out but I doubt it will go anywhere with this "I got mine now you ´try´ to get yours" crowd.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: mc squared, 10/14/2013 11:15:01 AM     (No. 9564548)

The Rev Al has been looking out for Al for about 25 years now, and the pastors just figured that out?

If the rev convinced some businesses to throw bucks their way I don´t think they´d be howling. Something´s not right here and it smells like extortion.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Aunt Agnes, 10/14/2013 11:23:26 AM     (No. 9564565)

No. 10 gets it right. If this group could feed or take care of themselves - they would have by now. A community that regularly walks away from it´s own children, will not look out for each other. I was watching a Travel Channel show where the lib host was visiting a small food vendor in a black third-world country. Small, hungry-looking kids were standing around watching. He thought he would be a good bleeding heart & buy all of the kids food. What happened next - out of nowhere big, strong men came & took it away from the kids & the food vendor had a near-riot on her hands.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Chuzzles, 10/14/2013 11:41:23 AM     (No. 9564616)

#17, I thought that was Chawlie Rangel doing the turkey stealing, using them to buy votes and influence instead.

I know there are some stereotypical naysayers here regarding these church pastors organizing, but actual,not phony, pastors of these 100 churches represents a lot of influence in Harlem. Sharpton, for once in his rotten life, could actually be in some real trouble here. Will be interesting to watch the situation ripen.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Butch59, 10/14/2013 11:59:59 AM     (No. 9564651)

#11 has a good handle on this situation. I´m old enough to remember when the black community was poor, but maintained real families, worked for a living, went to school, didn´t do drugs, etc. You get the picture. But, then came the turbulent 60´s. And the creation of the "civil rights" movement. At that point in time, a handful of black, JJ, Sharpton, and others, saw an opopertunity to enrich themselves. And as a good community orginazer, they stired up hatred of the white man. And the dims in Congress saw a opportunity to create a voteing bloc for eternity. And both groups managed to do exactly what they set out to do. The attitudes and behavior of modern day black has been TAUGHT to them repeatedly throught out the past 50yrs. What is the solution? I really don´t have a clue. When peoply like Bill Cosby get vilified for telling blacks to get an education and get a job, I don´t see anyone that is going to change their minds. All they can think of is that "whitey owes them".

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Reply 25 - Posted by: lavalette, 10/14/2013 12:30:13 PM     (No. 9564700)

The civil rights movement was and is based on the Christian heresy of liberation theology. Nearly all black churches have embraced this heresy in whole or in part. This places them under the judgment of God, and the chaos, confusion, self-destruction, hatred and despair we see all flow from having adopted this heresy in preference to the truth of the Bible.

Of course, the white churches have also adopted a set of heresies of their own, chiefly a compartmentalizing of the gospel wherein Jesus is privatized and said o have no authority in the public sector which is falsely held to belong to Caesar.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: NYBruin, 10/14/2013 12:35:33 PM     (No. 9564710)

It´s not about Al, it´s about the Benjamins. . .

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Reply 27 - Posted by: T-Bubba, 10/14/2013 2:17:58 PM     (No. 9564861)

In a bygone day, Sharpton, the once-obese-now-emaciated tub of sludge, would be tricking his fellow West African villagers into the clutches of the Transatlantic slave traders---for a hefty fee, of course.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: WIBadger, 10/14/2013 2:34:58 PM     (No. 9564877)

Be still my beating heart....

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Reply 29 - Posted by: NorthernDog, 10/14/2013 3:01:58 PM     (No. 9564904)

Good point #24. Pictures from 1920s Harlem are amazing. Men wore suits and ties. The sidewalks were full of shoppers. Nightclubs, restaurants, and fancy clothiers lined the streets. And the churches were packed on Sunday mornings.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: bluefindad, 10/14/2013 3:33:22 PM     (No. 9564952)

Four vipers kicking a fifth viper out of the nest.

Note the comment that Sharpton is not a community organizer, he´s a personality. In other words, community organizer = ´Good´, personality = ´Bad´.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: BorninOKC, 10/14/2013 3:48:49 PM     (No. 9564964)

# 10 and # 11 and # 24 undertand/ I don´t see waht is so hopeful/ The pastors do not seem to be calling for a change in the Democratic Party, but only that a well known person pay more attention to - and get help for - a mess they have helped to create and maintain.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: pineledger, 10/14/2013 4:01:19 PM     (No. 9564975)

Excuse this double post, but I want to quote something from the Duke University alumni magazine´s Fall 2013 issue, page 9.

"Having Obama is, in a curious way, putting us behind. You have a growing racial apathy. People are telling you I don´t want to hear about race, because we´re beyond that. But we still have a white America and a black America."

These sentiments are attributed to "Eduardo Bonilla-Silva, professor of sociology, on how the Obama presidency has affected the viability of whiteness studies, an emerging field that explores white privilege."

Whiteness studies. That is how Obama has "put us behind," with all his divisiveness.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Old Army Vet, 10/14/2013 4:35:27 PM     (No. 9565008)

Sharpton, a useless waste of space. He has been a liar and hater for as long as I have heard him. When he answers about Tawana Brawley, he will be making a start at being worth listening to.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: PoliticalJunky, 10/14/2013 4:37:52 PM     (No. 9565011)

When you read it all you see that it is not such good news as the headline would lead you to believe. They are "not hating on Al". They just want him to butt out of loal matters and stick to national.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: wsdiego, 10/14/2013 5:31:06 PM     (No. 9565070)

No respect until you build something worthwhile!

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Reply 36 - Posted by: Dodge Boy, 10/14/2013 10:41:42 PM     (No. 9565337)

Clipping Sharpie´s wings right and properly is a good start. Now we need for Obie´s peers to knock him off his little bully pulpit as well.

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The White House is going to war with another fox — and this time, it’s personal. The Wall Street Journal reports that a red fox has been causing chaos around the White House, tripping security alarms, digging up Michelle’s garden and distracting the president from his duties. The Secret Service won’t give any details about how often the fox trips the White House’s obviously sophisticated security alarms, but rest assured, officials say, they’re watching. President Obama was apparently “stunned” to see the fox roaming freely down the oft-photographed White House colonnade, home to the world’s shortest, but most dramatic, outdoor strolls. The bushy-tailed visitor

Living in the New York Times World
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American Thinker, by J. Paul Masko    Original Article
Posted By: magnante- 4/19/2014 7:48:36 AM     Post Reply
I began reading the entirety of the first section of the New York Times at nine years old, and continued that practice, more or less, for decades.(snip) ...the power of reverence, intrinsic to what I call the “cascade” of The Times: the near avalanche-like flow and distribution of information through electronic and print networks: through like-minded network newscasts, magazines, local newspaper s, blogs, daytime talk TV, late-night entertainment, statements at media award ceremonies, the celebrity Twitterverse, etc. The cascade rolls through Saturday Night Live, Jon Stewart, The New Yorker, the mouths of third-grade teachers, Elmo, Madonna and Susan Sarandon …through

In a Hole, Golf Considers
Digging a Wider One

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New York Times, by Bill Pennington    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/19/2014 10:48:33 AM     Post Reply
GREENSBORO, Ga. — Golf holes the size of pizzas. Soccer balls on the back nine. A mulligan on every hole. These are some of the measures — some would say gimmicks — that golf courses across the country have experimented with to stop people from quitting the game. Golf has always reveled in its standards and rich tradition. But increasingly a victim of its own image and hidebound ways, golf has lost five million players in the last decade, according to the National Golf Foundation, with 20 percent of the existing 25 million golfers apt to quit in the next few years. People under 35 have especially spurned the game, saying it takes too

Obama: ´For me, Easter is a story of hope,
a belief in a better day to come´

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Investor´s Business Daily, by Andrew Malcolm    Original Article
Posted By: SurferLad- 4/19/2014 9:16:36 AM     Post Reply
Hi, everybody. For millions of Americans, this time of year holds great meaning. Earlier this week, we hosted a Passover Seder at the White House, and joined Jewish families around the world in their re-tellings of the story of the Exodus and the victory of faith over oppression. And this Sunday, Michelle, Malia, Sasha, and I will join our fellow Christians around the world in celebrating the Resurrection of Christ, the salvation he offered the world, and the hope that comes with the Easter season. These holy days have their roots in miracles that took place long ago. And yet, they still inspire us, guide us, and strengthen us today. They remind us of our

Harry Reid calls dissident Nevada ranchers
´domestic terrorists´ following show of
force against the federal government

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Daily Mail [UK], by David Martosko    Original Article
Posted By: Attercliffe- 4/19/2014 9:29:17 AM     Post Reply
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Thursday that a family of dissident ranchers and their supporters in his home state of Nevada are ´domestic terrorists,´ citing this week´s standoff with the federal government´s Bureau of Land Management. Cliven Bundy has refused to pay grazing fees for land where his hundreds of cattle roam every day. The land is owned by the federal government, which says he owes more than $1 million. Bundy, however, insists that since his family has been using the land since the 1870s, Uncle Sam can´t collect the grazing fees. A tense standoff developed this week after

Pelosi assists in Holy Week
foot-washing ritual

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San Francisco Chronicle, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: Harlowe- 4/18/2014 11:46:54 AM     Post Reply
To "honor the dignity and work of immigrants," Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi helps Bishop Marc Andrus wash the feet of two children Thursday at Saint John the Evangelist Episcopal Church in San Francisco. Pelosi also used the occasion to talk about passing HR15 - bipartisan immigration legislation that her office says would "reduce the deficit by nearly $1 trillion, secure our borders, unite our families, protect our workers and provide an earned pathway to citizenship." The Democratic leader´s ceremony coincides with Pope Francis´ similar ceremony in Rome to mark Holy Week.

Ted Cruz, Invoking Reagan,
Angers GOP Colleagues
but Wins Fans Elsewhere

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Wall Street Journal, by Monica Langley    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/19/2014 8:09:17 AM     Post Reply
WASHINGTON--Rushing to an afternoon vote last month, Sen. Ted Cruz hopped the underground tram to the U.S. Capitol from his office across the street. The Texan planted his black ostrich cowboy boots in the middle of the small subway car without getting so much as a nod from the other senators--Republican or Democrat--amiably chatting or huddled in their seats. Mr. Cruz finds himself standing alone a lot these days. His response to the cold shoulders: "The establishment despised Ronald Reagan" before he became president, "but the people loved him." For the 43-year-old Republican, the Reagan name illuminates his political life´s

Deadbeat on the Range
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New York Times, by Timothy Eagan    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 3:52:52 PM     Post Reply
Imagine a vendor on the National Mall, selling burgers and dogs, who hasn’t paid his rent in 20 years. He refuses to recognize his landlord, the National Park Service, as a legitimate authority. Every court has ruled against him, and fines have piled up. What’s more, the effluents from his food cart are having a detrimental effect on the spring grass in the capital. Would an armed posse come to his defense, aiming their guns at the park police? Would the lawbreaker get prime airtime on Fox News, breathless updates in the Drudge Report, a sympathetic ear from Tea Party Republicans?

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