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Obama Watches, Waits
for Congress´ Best Offer

Politico, by Jonathan Allen & Carrie Budoff Brown

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Posted By:FlyRight, 10/13/2013 7:51:01 AM

It’s a buyer’s market for President Barack Obama. With House and Senate Republicans preparing competing proposals to end the government shutdown and avert a default on the nation’s debt, Obama hasn’t shown any inclination to jump at the first offer. The plan House Republicans presented to the White House on Thursday night wasn’t enticing enough, and there is a sense in Washington that the GOP’s scramble to avoid further political pain from this latest fiscal crisis will give Obama plenty of opportunity to define the terms of a settlement. At this point, White House officials won’t even describe

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Pearson365, 10/13/2013 7:57:37 AM     (No. 9563051)

Some perspective from pollster Scott Rasmussen:

SCOTT RASMUSSEN ON THE SHUTDOWN:

Not long ago, the conventional wisdom in official Washington held that the so-called sequester spending cuts would be a disaster for the Republican Party. They were expected to rise up in vehement protest once the “cuts” went into effect.

Instead, nobody outside of Washington noticed.

Today, the conventional wisdom suggests that the so-called government shutdown is a big time loser for the GOP. But, once again, few Americans other than federal workers have really noticed any difference.

That’s a big problem for the president. Nothing can be more frightening to liberal politicians than proving how little impact many federal programs have on the day-to-day lives of individual Americans. If nobody notices when they’re missing, it’s hard to argue against trimming the size of government.



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Reply 2 - Posted by: Attila DiMedici, 10/13/2013 8:02:43 AM     (No. 9563055)

Obama claims that it is urgent to come to a solution/agreement on funding the government and expanding the debt ceiling. Yet, he shows no urgency in his actions. He is content to wait until the Republicans give in to everything he wants. The Republicans should start responding to Obama´s tactics by asking "Which is it? Is this a crisis beyond imagining? Or is it something that there are no dangers in the President taking the time to score all the political points he can?"

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Tom Paine, 10/13/2013 8:06:03 AM     (No. 9563057)

If the Rinos back down what´s the point of voting for them. Better to let the Democrats win so HOPEFULLY the Republician Party will know where their future is. My suggestion to Voters in Rino districts sit out the 2014 election.


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Reply 4 - Posted by: franq, 10/13/2013 8:06:58 AM     (No. 9563059)

Hussein cried wolf too often. The chicken littles are coming home to roost.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Keekng, 10/13/2013 8:22:37 AM     (No. 9563079)

FTA:
“He’s willing to look at any proposal,” Carney said.

Right on! Zippy is willing to "Look at any proposal", he just won´t compromise. Got it.
Something wrong with him when he won´t accept what his own party wants.


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Reply 6 - Posted by: maryc, 10/13/2013 8:24:52 AM     (No. 9563082)

To the rinos. Just go home. To the conservatives. Put dr Carson out front and let him explain in his clear articulate and brilliant way that Obama is not leading us but pushing us over a cliff. To those like McCain. You lost and just keep repeating the same moves. Too easy to defeat you by press releases from the unglued and lying propaganda machine. Can´t you tell how bad things are for the tax payers who elected you ?

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Jntsrgn, 10/13/2013 8:28:35 AM     (No. 9563086)

There is zero risk of default. That fact that no Republican ever makes that point proves they are all in the same bed together to screw America.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: alpha91c, 10/13/2013 8:31:33 AM     (No. 9563091)

The republican leadership has once again apparently snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: tren9, 10/13/2013 8:37:13 AM     (No. 9563100)

The GOP has alienated its base. This is not a formula for electoral success.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: BcdErick, 10/13/2013 8:38:14 AM     (No. 9563102)

This is just cynical liberal spin. It´s worthless. Obama is dumb and the way he behaving is like a petulant, petty little child. It is an indictment of American democracy that he is president. He is not a serious person.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Not your typical New Yorker, 10/13/2013 9:15:44 AM     (No. 9563145)

It would be a good thing if I never saw another Politico piece on this site again.

A very good thing.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: bigfatslob, 10/13/2013 9:18:16 AM     (No. 9563149)

Barry is a low IQ idiot who thinks his pack of voting communist care about this. The fact of the matter is if it didn´t touch them then they don´t think about it.
The Republicans end up in the same spot if they hold out or cave. The communist, propaganda media for Barry will still hate and blame them for all of this and it will be a campaign issue in 2014 and 2016. Count on it. The RINOs should just do the honorable thing like Arlen Specter did, change parties.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: chicodon, 10/13/2013 9:32:17 AM     (No. 9563169)

In the mean time Obama turns up the heat. It makes one wonder about the so called EBT "glitch". You can bet it will be blamed on the current "debt crisis" on the street. It´s so Obamavellian.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: owl, 10/13/2013 9:33:30 AM     (No. 9563170)

Not that they care or have any real smarts, but we´d appreciate all the GOPhers to go home. Go home, stand up in front whatever coverage they can get, and announce to the people just what exactly is going on in DC. Explain in layman´s terms all the legislative mumbo. That harry reid is an obstructionist who hasn´t passed any budget in years, that O´Bummer´s economy ( with the senate ) is as bad as Greece, that the unemployment numbers are far worse than what gov. reports, and on and on. Go home to your people and talk to them, not DC insiders. Then we might get some cooperation .

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Reply 15 - Posted by: chicodon, 10/13/2013 9:35:17 AM     (No. 9563177)

#11
If you have ever looked at their audience via their comment section you know what a cesspool it is.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Holeymoses, 10/13/2013 9:42:52 AM     (No. 9563189)

Is it just me, or does McCain become more noxious every day?
You can throw King and Rove in there too.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Freeloader, 10/13/2013 10:05:09 AM     (No. 9563225)

And The Dark Side´s game of "Three-Card Monte" continues unabated and unreported by the weasels in the MSM:

"We Are Not Going To Do Anything"
Dingy Harry
December 20, 2012

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Reply 18 - Posted by: nevernaught, 10/13/2013 10:10:28 AM     (No. 9563229)

McCain has reached that point in life where he has come to the conclusion that nobody is paying ant attention to him. He´s just acting out the behavioral actions of a spoiled four year old child, throwing himself on the ground and screaming when they don´t get their way.

Retire John, your time has come and gone. You aren´t relevant anymore. You have lost your way. Thank you for your service in the military, but Obama is harmful and destructive to this country. If you want to side with him, then you are him. Take your marbles and go home.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: nonsense, 10/13/2013 10:18:41 AM     (No. 9563237)

Thank you #14, you are very wise for an owl. Your comments make so much sense, have not seen your ideas mentioned anywhere else. Ever thought of running for office?

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Reply 20 - Posted by: congaree53, 10/13/2013 10:21:37 AM     (No. 9563240)

Scott Rasmussen (or at least the polling unit he started and left) also has Obama at 50% approval among likely voters today. So Obama has every incentive to wait for best offer.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Salt5792, 10/13/2013 10:40:23 AM     (No. 9563274)

For Democrats, there is no such thing as spending being too high. If there´s a deficit, in their eyes, it´s caused by taxes being too low. They are wrecking America.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Coy860, 10/13/2013 10:47:28 AM     (No. 9563285)

Thank you #7. The USA will NOT default.
I am shocked that even "banking experts" have been using this term.
The USA is bringing in 250-300 million a month even with the shut down. We can service our debt and pay our bills..so we are not in danger of the phony default.
Scare tactics for the dumb masses.
SHAME on the hucksters.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Philipsonh, 10/13/2013 11:06:09 AM     (No. 9563320)

He is waiting to sign the proposal that will cause the most damage to the U>S>, in other words, Congress´ worst offer.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: tobias, 10/13/2013 11:26:06 AM     (No. 9563349)

No matter what is presented, you know that Obama will turn it down. If that is the case you would be better off if you would put forth a very strongly worded bill demanding everything that we want and not anything that weakens us. Repeal Obamacare, put forth a budget, do not raise debt limit, redo tax code, etc. Tell the president we are tired of playing games and that is our best and final offer.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: oh-heck, 10/13/2013 11:26:54 AM     (No. 9563350)

The house has already passed 3 bills. Pick any one of the 3 and the government goes back to work. Then accept Boehner´s offer of a 6 week extension. Throw out Collins proposal because the House won´t support it even if the Senate could pass it.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Coy860, 10/13/2013 11:33:19 AM     (No. 9563360)

Any offer proffered from here on in should include LESS than the offer before it.
Republicans, can you hear me now?


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Reply 27 - Posted by: ida Lou Pino, 10/13/2013 12:07:51 PM     (No. 9563390)

Impossible - - utterly impossible - -

- - to be more delusional than these people are.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: stablemoney, 10/13/2013 12:14:45 PM     (No. 9563397)

Obama´s open checkbook is shutdown. That is the best offer.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: saguni, 10/13/2013 12:22:29 PM     (No. 9563408)

The RINO Surrender Monkeys would never do this, but it is time to change tactics. The next offer should have a little less of what 0bama wants, and the next after that, even less. Keep subtracting what the Dims want and adding what the conservatives want.

And when 0bama or Harry Reid wakes up and wants to "accept" the first offer, say: "Sorry, that was rescinded when the next offer was put in place. Time to get serious about the work of the American people"

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Reply 30 - Posted by: mulhaven, 10/13/2013 12:36:43 PM     (No. 9563433)

Even the densest of Republicans should understand that it is silly to expect any offer other than unconditional surrender to be acceptable to the thugs in the White House. Why do they allow the media to go unchallenged with the claim that there will be a default on loan payments if the government does not loan more money? Is there no one to challenge this claim by pointing out to the public the madness of incurring more debt to pay off debt?! There is money available to service the debt! Is this not the root cause of Capital Hill insanity. The grand Pooh Poobahs are hooked on reckless spending and self-aggrandizement. They need to get off their high horses and start to deal with the realities. Put an end to this abuse of the tax payers! They are small people in big jobs and this requires a sense of humility from the president and his cohorts. They need to drop their ideological pursuit of virulent abuse of the good people of America.

The House needs to make a frontal attack by speaking the truth about the degenerates in power. Courage is a cornerstone of American heritage. Let us see some of it now! Besides, it should not take a lot of courage to defend against the assault on the foundation of the civil society. Start the debate now!

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Reply 31 - Posted by: readaholic, 10/13/2013 12:53:20 PM     (No. 9563454)

Maybe it was his POW experience that stripped him of all loyalty.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: glcinpdx, 10/13/2013 1:30:33 PM     (No. 9563491)

I´m with #18. McPain should do us all a favor, retire and start doing viagara commercials like Bob Dole did...

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Reply 33 - Posted by: reilly, 10/13/2013 2:18:23 PM     (No. 9563532)


I smell Chicago. There will be no default. Call the little snake´s bluff.


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Reply 34 - Posted by: dman, 10/13/2013 2:47:02 PM     (No. 9563560)

Enough of this. No more deals. No more extensions that come due just before the holidays. Only raise the debt ceiling through January 10, 2014 - after the holidays and before the primaries. No more CRs: pass a budget.

If the Dems stay stubborn, then meet them at the polls. We know how to get a mule´s attention.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: OhMy, 10/13/2013 3:23:57 PM     (No. 9563589)

On Friday Mark Levin was angry at the GOP for sending in Susan Collins to do the negotiations expecting a total cave in. I read in headlines today that Obama rejects this cave in because it wasn´t total and complete enough for him. I guess the only way out is for the GOP to make reparations to the one for causing his majesty such distress by not agreeing to his demands faster and give him another 2 trillion per year to squander forever on his constituents.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: Vintage MB, 10/13/2013 3:43:19 PM     (No. 9563603)

Seems to me that the man in the "Spite House" wants what he wants and he will negotiate with anyone who will cave and give him his way. Not very grown up and certainly not very Presidential of the current occupant.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: Rinktum, 10/13/2013 4:09:45 PM     (No. 9563621)

What our esteemed leaders in the GOP fail to understand is that Obama is on a mission to destroy the Republican Party. He is holding out for one thing-complete and humiliating surrender by Boehner and McConnell. Then let the gloating begin. If the Republican establishment want to eat crow prepared by this unAmerican Marxist, have at it. It is your choice. Show some courage and honor! This country deserves better than the leaders we have.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: Bohallx, 10/13/2013 4:10:46 PM     (No. 9563622)

#7~ there is minimal risk that the USA is going to default on anything. We have trillions of dollars in assets to be attached first ~ imagine putting one of our 11 carrier fleets on the block ~ think of the bids ~ China "$1 trillion", India "2 trillion", Germany, "5 trillion"

Seriously ~ but not likely to happen because, lo and behold, we have other resources of even greater value, even if less fungible (you can stick a carrier fleet into any oceanic basin and get an effect)

However, the argument for ´don´t fear a default´ is also the same argument that comes out in "raise the debt limit next year".

The Democrats would use it to justify future spending on more stuff.



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Reply 39 - Posted by: larryp, 10/13/2013 6:18:04 PM     (No. 9563774)

In calif the Mexican tong decided to have a day without Mexicans, (read:illegal aliens).
So they stayed home.
It has been 4 year or so.
and people still recall ti. It was the best time in Calif´s life. No traffic. fwys empty.
the Raza group realized they made a mistake. Never did it again.
Same here, entire departments, ones with a Cabinet Secy, are empty. We are 40% over-stocked with people.This prives it And so the topics discussed are everything and anything but that.
"look over here".

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Reply 40 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 10/13/2013 7:17:29 PM     (No. 9563817)

#14, your idea is a good one, the GOPers speaking to their constituents.

The only problem I see is that their constituents are the people sensible enough not to have elected a democrat in the first place--so, in some ways, the GOPers will be preaching to the choir. But anything is better than what´s going on in Washington now.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: peterfleming, 10/13/2013 7:30:37 PM     (No. 9563827)


we know all democrats are communist driven
to control the lives of all the peasants. Right out of Marx, Lenin, Stalin and a lot of Hitler. German Socialist, Russian Socialist, a monster mess that makes it worse, is the so called opposition. The republican party is infiltrated with stealth communists so there is no effective opposition within the party. All commies must be called out identified and THROWN OUT
before America is destroyed, before the propaganda of TV wipes out the truth.

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Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 4:21:46 AM     Post Reply
It’s the stuff of Westerns: a showdown on the desert plains, the big bad government against an underdog farmer. Though the story has only grabbed national headlines in the past several days, rancher Cliven Bundy has illegally grazed cattle on the Nevada land surrounding his farm for over 20 years. He hasn’t paid grazing fees since 1993, and refuses to renew the necessary grazing permit.(Snip)Rather than using the avenues and pathways presented to him, Bundy has staunchly declared his own law and allegiances. Unfortunately, reality doesn’t work this way. If only it did—we could rebel for paying stupid taxes, refuse to

Students Demand Acknowledgement of
Robert E. Lee´s ´Racist and Dishonorable Conduct´

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Breitbart´s Big Government, by AWR Hawkins    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/18/2014 12:35:28 PM     Post Reply
A group of seven multiracial Washington and Lee University (W&L) students are demanding the school remove all Confederate flags from campus and "acknowledge" General Robert E. Lee´s "dishonorable side." According to the Roanoke Times, "seven multiracial students, calling themselves ´The Committee,´" have also demanded the school "acknowledge and apologize for participating in chattel slavery." They want recognition of "Martin Luther King Jr. Day on the undergraduate campus" and an end to "neo-Confederates" marching across campus "to the Lee Chapel on Lee-Jackson Day." The students say they will "engage in civil disobedience" if their demands are not met by September 1st. They added: "The

Living in the New York Times World
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American Thinker, by J. Paul Masko    Original Article
Posted By: magnante- 4/19/2014 7:48:36 AM     Post Reply
I began reading the entirety of the first section of the New York Times at nine years old, and continued that practice, more or less, for decades.(snip) ...the power of reverence, intrinsic to what I call the “cascade” of The Times: the near avalanche-like flow and distribution of information through electronic and print networks: through like-minded network newscasts, magazines, local newspaper s, blogs, daytime talk TV, late-night entertainment, statements at media award ceremonies, the celebrity Twitterverse, etc. The cascade rolls through Saturday Night Live, Jon Stewart, The New Yorker, the mouths of third-grade teachers, Elmo, Madonna and Susan Sarandon …through

´America´s royal baby´: How Chelsea´s first
child could give Hillary Clinton a boost in
the polls if she runs for president in 2016

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Daily Mail (U.K.), by Jessica Jerreat    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/19/2014 7:12:10 PM     Post Reply
For Hillary Clinton, having her own baby grandchild to kiss on the campaign trail, could be one of the biggest boosts to her possible presidential election campaign. Although the former Secretary of State and First Lady has not said if she will run in 2016, the arrival of her first grandchild will soften her image, analysts have said. While Chelsea only revealed her pregnancy on Thursday, supporters of her mother have already started cooing over a possible baby in the White House. With the Clintons having a near-royal status in the U.S., the announcement of a new arrival due this fall has sent

In a Hole, Golf Considers
Digging a Wider One

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New York Times, by Bill Pennington    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/19/2014 10:48:33 AM     Post Reply
GREENSBORO, Ga. — Golf holes the size of pizzas. Soccer balls on the back nine. A mulligan on every hole. These are some of the measures — some would say gimmicks — that golf courses across the country have experimented with to stop people from quitting the game. Golf has always reveled in its standards and rich tradition. But increasingly a victim of its own image and hidebound ways, golf has lost five million players in the last decade, according to the National Golf Foundation, with 20 percent of the existing 25 million golfers apt to quit in the next few years. People under 35 have especially spurned the game, saying it takes too

Obama: ´For me, Easter is a story of hope,
a belief in a better day to come´

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Investor´s Business Daily, by Andrew Malcolm    Original Article
Posted By: SurferLad- 4/19/2014 9:16:36 AM     Post Reply
Hi, everybody. For millions of Americans, this time of year holds great meaning. Earlier this week, we hosted a Passover Seder at the White House, and joined Jewish families around the world in their re-tellings of the story of the Exodus and the victory of faith over oppression. And this Sunday, Michelle, Malia, Sasha, and I will join our fellow Christians around the world in celebrating the Resurrection of Christ, the salvation he offered the world, and the hope that comes with the Easter season. These holy days have their roots in miracles that took place long ago. And yet, they still inspire us, guide us, and strengthen us today. They remind us of our

Harry Reid calls dissident Nevada ranchers
´domestic terrorists´ following show of
force against the federal government

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Daily Mail [UK], by David Martosko    Original Article
Posted By: Attercliffe- 4/19/2014 9:29:17 AM     Post Reply
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Thursday that a family of dissident ranchers and their supporters in his home state of Nevada are ´domestic terrorists,´ citing this week´s standoff with the federal government´s Bureau of Land Management. Cliven Bundy has refused to pay grazing fees for land where his hundreds of cattle roam every day. The land is owned by the federal government, which says he owes more than $1 million. Bundy, however, insists that since his family has been using the land since the 1870s, Uncle Sam can´t collect the grazing fees. A tense standoff developed this week after

Pelosi assists in Holy Week
foot-washing ritual

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San Francisco Chronicle, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: Harlowe- 4/18/2014 11:46:54 AM     Post Reply
To "honor the dignity and work of immigrants," Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi helps Bishop Marc Andrus wash the feet of two children Thursday at Saint John the Evangelist Episcopal Church in San Francisco. Pelosi also used the occasion to talk about passing HR15 - bipartisan immigration legislation that her office says would "reduce the deficit by nearly $1 trillion, secure our borders, unite our families, protect our workers and provide an earned pathway to citizenship." The Democratic leader´s ceremony coincides with Pope Francis´ similar ceremony in Rome to mark Holy Week.

Ted Cruz, Invoking Reagan,
Angers GOP Colleagues
but Wins Fans Elsewhere

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Wall Street Journal, by Monica Langley    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/19/2014 8:09:17 AM     Post Reply
WASHINGTON--Rushing to an afternoon vote last month, Sen. Ted Cruz hopped the underground tram to the U.S. Capitol from his office across the street. The Texan planted his black ostrich cowboy boots in the middle of the small subway car without getting so much as a nod from the other senators--Republican or Democrat--amiably chatting or huddled in their seats. Mr. Cruz finds himself standing alone a lot these days. His response to the cold shoulders: "The establishment despised Ronald Reagan" before he became president, "but the people loved him." For the 43-year-old Republican, the Reagan name illuminates his political life´s

Deadbeat on the Range
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New York Times, by Timothy Eagan    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 3:52:52 PM     Post Reply
Imagine a vendor on the National Mall, selling burgers and dogs, who hasn’t paid his rent in 20 years. He refuses to recognize his landlord, the National Park Service, as a legitimate authority. Every court has ruled against him, and fines have piled up. What’s more, the effluents from his food cart are having a detrimental effect on the spring grass in the capital. Would an armed posse come to his defense, aiming their guns at the park police? Would the lawbreaker get prime airtime on Fox News, breathless updates in the Drudge Report, a sympathetic ear from Tea Party Republicans?


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