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House GOP furious with Senate
The Hill (Washington DC), by Erik Wasson & Russel Berman

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Posted By:JoniTx, 10/12/2013 11:28:26 AM

House Republicans were furious with Senate Republicans and President Obama on Saturday for trying to cut a debt ceiling deal that leaves them out in the cold. Members emerged from a conference meeting saying Obama had double-crossed them by breaking off talks in order to shop for a better deal from the Senate GOP. They said the deal, formulated by centrist Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine.), would never get House GOP approval. “They are trying to jam us with the Senate and we are not going to roll over and take that,” House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said after a GOP


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Bohallx, 10/12/2013 11:33:02 AM     (No. 9562235)

The MSM were telling this was a done deal now that the wholly execrable Susan Collins was on the job.

Guess it wasn´t.

Other news ~ seems to me McCain has had another stroke. Thinks of Obama as the son he never had......

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Reply 2 - Posted by: cjjeepercreeper, 10/12/2013 11:42:50 AM     (No. 9562245)

The Senate cannot originate a spending bill. Hew can talk to McCain and company all he wants, they are powerless to do anything.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Hotrod, 10/12/2013 11:48:07 AM     (No. 9562250)

FTA: ´´If the Senate does reach a deal with Obama, it could be difficult for the House to reject it.´´

It is very easy for the House to reject it. Watch closely....

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Reply 4 - Posted by: marthaville, 10/12/2013 11:54:43 AM     (No. 9562259)

Part of this is Obama thinking he can succeed by playing the Republican Senators against the House Republicans.

It looks more like he is trying to appear to be something he is not - a competent negotiator.

Perhaps he really wants us to default on our debt. He would tell all the investors to shove it and say he won. That would be his last official act before being run out of office and back to Hawaii.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: bubby, 10/12/2013 11:54:52 AM     (No. 9562260)

That´s all theater. Under Speaker Boner they will cave and give obama an even better deal than the Senate Republicans. Then to top it all off the House GOP will approve the Senate amnesty bill. The fat lady is singing!

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Patriot Forever, 10/12/2013 11:58:21 AM     (No. 9562266)

Did Susan receive help from the WH in writing her proposal. It appears to be just what the WH would propose. And when did she ever support a conservative position?

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Pros7767, 10/12/2013 12:05:03 PM     (No. 9562270)

Let´s just call the Republican party the "Stupid" party, and call it a day.

How many times are they going to negotiate against themselves? They´re too stupid to realize they were winning this one.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: ida Lou Pino, 10/12/2013 12:05:15 PM     (No. 9562271)

You tell ´em, Paul!

We´ve GOT to keep funding the welfare state - - and you´re the man with the plan.

God forbid the New Deal and the Great Society should be defunded.

Go RINO Pubbies!

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Boneshaker, 10/12/2013 12:08:38 PM     (No. 9562278)

Foolish republicans let Obama drive a wedge between the House and Senate GOP - again.

Obama isn´y interested in a solution, he is interested in getting his way and destroying the republican party.

And republicans always end up helping him.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: SheikYerBooty, 10/12/2013 12:09:02 PM     (No. 9562280)

The deal was formulated by "centrist" Susan Collins.

I have a good feeling about this, McCain, McConnell, McCornyn, McCorker, McCollins and the rest of the McRINOs in the Senate are looking out for us.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: GreatPlains, 10/12/2013 12:12:40 PM     (No. 9562290)

The deal that Reid agreed to with Boehner in September gave the House Republicans
the spending cuts they asked for.
Instead , they had to push for this moronic shutdown stunt which everyone who could count ( 55 Democrats are the majority, not the 45 Republicans ) knew
a) would never succeed
b) would hurt Republicans chances to retake the Senate which would have given them a realistic opportunity to defund or repeal Obamacare.
The budget deal is gone,
Republicans are in disarray and fighting,
Republicans are less popular now than Obamacare ,
and Obama and the Democrats are in a stronger position than before the stupid shutdown.
There is also evidence that the stunt
may cost us House seats and has ruined the hopes of retaking the Senate.
FTA- " The division between the House and Senate Republicans has also given the White House increased leverage.
Polls also show the Republican Party’s approval rating plummeting, .."
Hope Ted Cruz, Rush Limbaugh and Hannity are happy.
They demanded that Obamacare be defunded by the minority party
and they got their government shutdown .

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Reply 12 - Posted by: cjjeepercreeper, 10/12/2013 12:27:22 PM     (No. 9562303)

I don´t like to post more than once in a thread here, but, I have to say this. Sometimes principle is all you have, or you have nothing. Apparently many people don´t understand this.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: starbaby, 10/12/2013 12:29:48 PM     (No. 9562307)

Deal formulated by Susan Collins? Good grief, might as well be Harry Reid.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: badrad, 10/12/2013 12:30:50 PM     (No. 9562309)

Okay, now even I have turned on the establishment RINOS who have no clue that business as GOP usual just won´t cut it this time.

Hang tough or hang one at a time and go down as the party that will always fold. Do we have meaning or what?

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Rafter, 10/12/2013 12:31:15 PM     (No. 9562310)

#11, here´s a reality break for you...

The Republicans hold the majority in the House, which is most involved in
federal government budget matters, per the U.S. Constitution.

Thus everyone else who wants to be a player has to negotiate or deal with them.
They hold the cards.
It´s very simple.

As far as the general public goes...
According to Gallup, in longstanding data...
Self-identifying conservatives outnumber liberals two to one...
Forty percent self-identify as conservatives...
Only twenty percent self-identify as liberals...

So... who´s zooming whom?

Senator Johnny McLameBrain, who is essentially a Benedict Arnold
to the GOP, can throw all the stupid, ugly, nasty, traitorous tantrums he wants.
He only reveals what a pathetic DimWit louse he really is.

He´s going to be primaried...
The GOP will hold the House...
as they did for ten years after the 1995 shutdown...
and retake the Senate.

The base is energized and fired up.
Read it and weep.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: yuban, 10/12/2013 12:37:16 PM     (No. 9562322)

I reckon #11 won´t be happy until the GOP is all RINO. Little does he know he can have the Party he wants right now. Just join the Dems.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Pearson365, 10/12/2013 12:47:09 PM     (No. 9562343)

The RINO wing of the GOP consists of people too decent to be Democrats, but their sentiments on big government mirror Dems. These RINOs do not understand free markets or free trade, have an innate distrust of business, do not really believe that people know what is best for them and believe that tax increases and spending are okay if reduced by 10% of whatever Dems propose.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: ruready?, 10/12/2013 12:52:18 PM     (No. 9562347)

1) The division between the House and Senate Republicans has also given the White House increased leverage - This is very long overdue. We need to identify and replace every RINO.

2) Polls also show the Republican Party’s approval rating plummeting, .." - Polls are biased (Levin detailed this) and even with that the democrat approval is only 5%. Republican approval is 11%.

3) Hope Ted Cruz, Rush Limbaugh and Hannity are happy - Not sure, but I sure am happy with them!

4) They demanded that Obamacare be defunded by the minority party - Wrong. The House´s responsibility is financal and that is where the Tea Party is in the majority.

5) and they got their government shutdown. Wrong again. Reid shut the government down and the WH is blowing it bigtime!

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Franz, 10/12/2013 1:41:35 PM     (No. 9562388)

Thanks to Senator Ted Cruz, the shutdown is blamed on those nasty Republicans trying for the 47th time to kill (de-fund) Obamacare.

The real reason for the shutdown is Obama and the Democrats refusal to reduce the deficit spending that will put future generations into financial bondage if not brought under control.

Much of the American public have not made up their minds about Obamacare. But, a big majority want deficit spending brought under control.

There are many areas where funding can be cut to reduce deficit spending. Restricting it to Obamacare was as stupid as you can get.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: jeffkinnh, 10/12/2013 2:46:00 PM     (No. 9562446)

This is NO surprise. BO has never negotiated in good faith. He makes deals and then walks away from them.

He uses divide and conquer tactics to drive wedges between those looking for perks that they want. One of those was McPain who was apparently going to get something he wanted out of Collins´ plan. I´m sure the WH people whispered in Johnny´s ear, "Go along and you will get what you want.". Then they back away from the whole thing. It allows the dems and media to claim that the Republicans don´t know WHAT they want.

The Republican old guard is too worn out and tired to fight a decent fight. They have compromised their principles so often that they may as well be dems.

This started with a clear goal. Everything continues on exactly as before EXCEPT BOCare. Let´s focus on that. If the dems want to play games, keep putting up proposals to give them everything BUT BOCare.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: ivehadit, 10/12/2013 2:48:30 PM     (No. 9562448)

Is 11 talking about those rigged polls that poll 20% GOVERNMENT WORKERS?

I have seen ENOUGH from these elitists who have done nothing to save this country, imho. In fact, as far as I am concerned THEY are the PROBLEM and Ted Cruz is the solution!

The heartland has spoken and will speak again BIGTIME next year.

And KEEP CALLING the senators and congressmen to STOP the assault our FREEDOMS! This monster beast called government has got to be massively trimmed.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Coy860, 10/12/2013 2:58:42 PM     (No. 9562459)

Careful with the language! For the gov´t to default means NOT being able to pay the interest on the debt..about 50 million a month..Gov´t revenue coming in is 250-300 million a month..we have enough to service the debt and pay everything we have already been paying..It is NOT default !!
If the debt ceiling is not raised, it means gov´t has to live on its existing income with no raise..just like most families have been doing for years.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: mackrand, 10/12/2013 3:17:14 PM     (No. 9562480)

#22, I think you meant "Billions" in your comment. ( With a Capital "B" )

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Reply 24 - Posted by: tnorling, 10/12/2013 3:24:06 PM     (No. 9562488)

I´m afraid they lost me at ´"centrist" Susan Collins...´

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Reply 25 - Posted by: PoliticalJunky, 10/12/2013 5:22:05 PM     (No. 9562593)

Stand down, folks. The Senate turned down the Collins bill and it´s all over.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: doctorfixit, 10/12/2013 6:01:46 PM     (No. 9562615)

Now the elites get to prove their whorish nature.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: zek, 10/12/2013 6:11:23 PM     (No. 9562622)

It appears Obama is going to turn down anything that doesn´t give him exactly what he wants, and the media will back him 120% blaming the GOP. He has been offered almost everything he first said he had to have, now it isn´t enough. Whatever the reasons were giving for the government shutdown really don´t matter anymore. The government is now shutdown because Obama wants everything his way and keeps moving the goalposts.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: rinohunter, 10/12/2013 6:56:38 PM     (No. 9562658)

Perfectly put No.9

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Reply 29 - Posted by: terry_tr6, 10/12/2013 7:58:29 PM     (No. 9562718)

how about we stick all ther republicans ina room and make them watch a Pawn Stars marathon to leatn how to negotiate? At some point if the other side dosen´t move, you stop increasing your offer and start decreasing it(or the reverse if appropriate). And most mportantly, be willing(tip of hat to Willie Nelson) to walk away.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: nonsense, 10/12/2013 10:02:05 PM     (No. 9562794)

The only reason to take the Hill seriously is if you want to learn to write like a Leftist.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: annie xango, 10/12/2013 10:33:45 PM     (No. 9562820)

#11...Bleeeeech..scurry on back....

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With Easter soon approaching, the Rev. Al Sharpton on Wednesday drew parallels between the resurrection of Jesus Christ and the resurrection of President Obama’s political career. Joining the “Tom Joyner Morning Show,” Mr. Sharpton said that his message for this Easter is that “no matter what the world may do to you unfairly, no matter how you’re crucified — nailed to the cross at home, or in your personal relationships, or on the job — that you can rise if you don’t lose yourself during the hard times and the challenges.” The reverend went on to say that Christ endured so much humiliation and unearned suffering leading up to his death,

Wendy Davis will undergo neck surgery
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Star-Telegram [Fort Worth TX], by Anna M. Tinsley    Original Article
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FORT WORTH — Democratic gubernatorial candidate Wendy Davis will undergo neck surgery today, her campaign said Tuesday. “After experiencing shoulder and right arm pain in recent weeks, Sen. Davis will have a routine surgical procedure to remove bone spurs and degenerative discs that are creating compression on the nerves in her neck,” campaign spokesman Zac Petkanas said in a statement Tuesday. “This is a common issue experienced by runners and endurance athletes,” he said. Davis, of Fort Worth, will undergo the outpatient surgery at the Fort Worth Brain and Spine Institute. Dr. Thomas Ellis will perform the

Obama administration gives Detroit
$100 million for ´blight removal´

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American Thinker, by Rick Moran    Original Article
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The cash infusion by the federal government is actually going to help the city pay pensions, even though they´re playing a kind of shell game with the money. As for "blight removal," perhaps they could start with city hall. Reuters: Michigan officials and President Barack Obama´s Administration are discussing a plan to free up $100 million in federal money to aid Detroit´s retired city workers, the Detroit Free Press reported on Tuesday. Citing two people familiar with the talks, the newspaper said the talks were centered around federal money flowing to Michigan for blight removal. Under the plan, $100 million

Michael Bloomberg: ´I Have Earned
My Place in Heaven´

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The Weekly Standard, by Daniel Halper    Original Article
Posted By: Bill the Cat- 4/16/2014 9:15:28 AM     Post Reply
Former New York City mayor is pledging to spend $50 million this year to push gun control, the New York Times reports. For this and other deeds (such as taking on obesity and smoking), Bloomberg believes he´s going to heaven. “I am telling you if there is a God, when I get to heaven I’m not stopping to be interviewed. I am heading straight in. I have earned my place in heaven. It’s not even close,” Bloomberg told the Times.

Climate change causing fish to
lose their minds, researchers say

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Washington Times, by Cheryl K. Chumley    Original Article
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Climate change’s latest casualty appears to be fish — or more specifically, fish brains — as researchers say the carbon dioxide that’s being absorbed into the ocean is causing the scaly creatures to lose their survival instincts. In other words, the fish are losing their minds, The Daily Mail reported. The acid from atmospheric carbon dioxide seeps into sea waters, dissolves and ultimately lowers the pH balance, researchers said. The acidic waters then hamper the fishes’ sensory systems, so they’re not able to distinguish between smells any longer, the scientists went on. When the acid levels get really high, the fish lose their

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