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Shutdown leaves kin of dead
soldiers without money for funerals

New York Daily News, by Joseph Straw And Stephen Rex Brown

Original Article

Posted By:drive, 10/9/2013 8:05:54 AM

Families of fallen military service members usually receive a "death gratuity" of $100,000 for interment and expenses within days, but not during government shutdown. They paid the ultimate price serving their country — but their government can’t spare a cent to cover their funerals. The stooges on Capitol Hill added insult to tragedy Tuesday when it was revealed that the families of four soldiers and a Marine who were killed in Afghanistan have not received a $100,000 “death gratuity” because of the government shutdown....

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Marcus Tullius, 10/9/2013 8:29:04 AM     (No. 9557175)

The "stooges on Capitol Hill" are NOT the ones withholding the death gratuity. Barrycade is doing that. That money has already been appropriated and was not dependent on last week´s legislation. Shame on Odumma. Shame on the sychophant "leaders" at the Pentagon. Shame on the authors of this piece.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: nonsense, 10/9/2013 8:30:17 AM     (No. 9557177)

Vicious, heartless, soul-less, O. regime. Makes you wonder about the character of the individuals who voted for this Marxist who inflicts pain on the American people with a grin on his face.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Pearson365, 10/9/2013 8:33:17 AM     (No. 9557182)

King Obama the Heartless is surely furious that the deaths of 5 more Americans in Afghanistan were made public. He could care less about denying death benefits to the families, which is why Obama ordered the denial despite approved funding.

What´s so cruel is that Obama spends $180,000 an hour just to fly AF1 on his almost daily campaigning yet he refuses to cover the commercial airfare for the families of these servicemen and servicewoman who want to meet the bodies at Andrews AFB. He´s also cutoff the families from receiving the last paychecks and the $100.000 death benefit. Some benefit.

Will US forces in Afghanistan refuse to go on patrol as a result of this callousness?

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Reply 4 - Posted by: K620, 10/9/2013 8:52:08 AM     (No. 9557201)

It was estimated that it cost $100,000 to barricade the WWII monument; a whole lot of other costly barricading has been going on as well. King Barry has the money for that but not for our fallen (meaning dead, Obozo) servicemen.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Patchy Groundfog, 10/9/2013 8:57:34 AM     (No. 9557214)

The ´shutdown´ involves a whopping 17% of government.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Freeloader, 10/9/2013 9:06:22 AM     (No. 9557235)

From the same "Commander-In-Chief" who couldn´t find hot breakfast money in the treasury for the front line troops in Afghanistan back in January, 2013.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: strike3, 10/9/2013 9:07:40 AM     (No. 9557236)

All doubt has now been removed about whose side the military will be on when the balloon goes up. Obama and his brownshirts will soon get to know exactly how General Custer felt when he saw the "unexpected" thousands of Lakota behind him.

Stinky hates the military and the feeling is mutual.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: mizzmac, 10/9/2013 9:32:39 AM     (No. 9557268)

How many soldiers? If Americans can raise millions for tsunami victims half a world away, can we not help families that the President of the United States has intentionally deserted after disrespecting their loved ones, bury their dead? We don´t need the government to take care of each other. Where may I contribute?

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Mr. Hanky, 10/9/2013 9:40:42 AM     (No. 9557279)

Big Bird just got $445 million. What´s the problem?

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Reply 10 - Posted by: tenncon231, 10/9/2013 9:41:47 AM     (No. 9557280)

Fisher House.org is providing interim funds to help the families, they will appreciate any contributions to help their mission.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Coy860, 10/9/2013 9:42:18 AM     (No. 9557281)

FTA: Legislation was enacted toward the end of last week to ensure that the troops would continue to get paid.
But the law did not authorize “any payments to family members of service members, and therefore cannot be used to legally justify the payment of survivor benefits,” a Pentagon official told the Daily News.
Using this logic of a Pentagon Lackey, WHERE in the ObamaCare law does it specify EXEMPTIONS to the chosen few?
ANSWER: (1) Obama picks and chooses what LAWS to follow and (2) Obama enjoys inflicting pain on our military.




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Reply 12 - Posted by: pros7767, 10/9/2013 9:42:21 AM     (No. 9557282)

Imagine this:

It´s a bright sunny afternoon. Your child is due home from Iraq in a few weeks. His siblings are out with their friends, his father running an errand. You´re fixing something for dinner.

You look out the window and see two Marines walking to the door. You run to the door, look them in the eye and tell them, "Tell me he´s okay." No response. "Tell me he´s alive." No response.

"We regret to inform you that (insert your child´s name) has been killed in the line of duty." You stumble back absorbing what you have just been told, break down in sobs, and try to process that your life, your husband´s life and your children´s life has been irrevocably changed forever.

Your husband comes home, walks in and sees them on the couch as they stand to address him. You watch him be informed of his son´s death, politely tell them he wouldn´t want their job and exchange contact information. They leave, and you watch him crumble into sobs.



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Reply 13 - Posted by: pros7767, 10/9/2013 9:43:33 AM     (No. 9557285)

(cont.)You go pick up your children from their friends, watching your older son flirting with some girls and knowing you are about to change their lives forever. You bring them home, sit them on the couch and tell them their older brother is dead. The older child crumbles into a ball sobbing on the couch. The younger one stares in disbelief asking why he didn´t shoot the bad guy first.

You plan the funeral over the next few days. You walk into a florist to pick out flowers you never wanted to buy for a child who should have been coming home. You take the trip to Dover to see him brought home in a box covered by a flag. It becomes real for the first time. The ceremony at Dover is both reverent and devestating. You wait 4 days for them to prepare his body for burial and you go back to Dover to bring him home.

The next few days there are the wake and funeral and always tears. The 21 gun salute, Taps, the folded flag presented "On Behalf of a Grateful Nation."

Years of grief and coming to terms with your new life has only begun. It happened to us.

And this Administration really has the nerve to throw financial issues on these families? REALLY?

Tho the families of the fallen, it will take a long time, but you will get through this, one day at a time. Your loved one will always be with you and he/she will watch over you everyday. God will help you if you let Him. Americans grieve with you all over this country.


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Reply 14 - Posted by: Mr. Hanky, 10/9/2013 9:44:24 AM     (No. 9557287)

Again, they apparently had $445 million for Big Bird but no money for this? For shame!

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Reply 15 - Posted by: FlatCityGirl, 10/9/2013 9:44:51 AM     (No. 9557288)

This and other peevish, petty, petulant stunts is what history and historians --if an honest one can be found, will remember 0b@$tard for.

And for as much as she´s a pariah for her knee-pad adoration of the Mulatto Marxist during the first campaign, Peggy Noonan has a point in this morning´s column: It should have been the Leftists making the funding proposals to keep certain areas of the government open, rather than letting the "R"S pass the bills and Dingy Harry not allowing the vote. It probably would have gone that way had it not been for Ted Cruz. He´s so hated by the Leftists, they took the wrong tactic thinking they were making him look bad.

The Leftists have completely misplayed this from minute one.

For as much as the Knee Pad Urinal-ists have skewed the facts of who´s doing what, I think America "gets it."

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Reply 16 - Posted by: jglas, 10/9/2013 9:46:05 AM     (No. 9557291)

First, the gratuity is intended to pay for the family flying to Dover, retrieving the body of their loved one and the subsequent funeral expenses. Most of that (the travel and lodgings) can be handled by the military on a simple order from the CinC, that is, Obama. Second, the House is passing legislation (probably today) to fix the funding oversight (they have already provided funding for military pay). The families will get the money a little late but they will get it. The media is throwing a screaming fit about this horror being perpetrated on the poor families of our service men implying it was the fault of those evil Republicans. It´s just a glitch in financing. If the families are actually not abled to travel to Dover and retrieve their loved one that will be the fault of Obama who could fix it with a royal wave of his hand.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Holeymoses, 10/9/2013 9:50:18 AM     (No. 9557296)

And, it´s Republicans who are suppose to be heartless?

This is what happens when you select a leader not of our culture. You must be proud Dems.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: saurkrut, 10/9/2013 9:54:41 AM     (No. 9557302)

Tried three times to read the article but found it "whited out" each time. Censorship?

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Rusino, 10/9/2013 10:06:24 AM     (No. 9557325)

Unpatriotic, UnAmerican! These two words can be summed up with only one, OBAMA!!!!

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Reply 20 - Posted by: rplat, 10/9/2013 10:08:11 AM     (No. 9557327)

These rotten bastards have violated every rule of civility and humane behavior. They are despicable.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Janjan, 10/9/2013 10:08:51 AM     (No. 9557329)

Just announced that the Loser in Chief invited Congressional caucuses to the WH. He finally went too far even for the lo-fo´s.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Cog, 10/9/2013 10:10:11 AM     (No. 9557332)

Creep.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: papasparky, 10/9/2013 10:18:27 AM     (No. 9557347)

When the small rivulet of disgust and loathing becomes a gushing stream and then quickly a raging torrent, the MSM levee will be breached and will crumble against the force of righteous anger. On that day the stinky, petulant little punk and his minions who have sullied and soiled our White House will discover they can run but find no place to save their worthless hide.

May God Bless our brave men and women who risk and sometimes give their lives to protect us from the likes of such trash and may He comfort their families as they grieve over and worry about their brave warriors.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Doctor P, 10/9/2013 10:19:18 AM     (No. 9557350)

Remember the administration plan is to inflict as much pain as possible to ensure that the can create a federal healthcare monstrosity.

Then Obamacare would be able to inflict such pain individually to everyone.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Phantomll, 10/9/2013 10:22:58 AM     (No. 9557352)

What a sorry excuse for a CIC. Where´s the outrage from the Joint Chiefs?

The morale of our military must be going down the tubes.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: rplat, 10/9/2013 10:32:14 AM     (No. 9557369)

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Reply 27 - Posted by: SpeedMaster, 10/9/2013 10:41:24 AM     (No. 9557384)

I hope someone or an organization that knows how will use the "Freedom of Information Act" to determine who issued these orders.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: Mr. Know-It-All, 10/9/2013 10:55:17 AM     (No. 9557401)

The current pResident is just a petty, spiteful, mean little.......jerk!

And you can tell Him is said so, NSA.


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Reply 29 - Posted by: Arby, 10/9/2013 10:57:08 AM     (No. 9557407)

A new low for Obama (and that´s really saying something).

Hopefully some of the lo-fo´s will notice this (if they notice anything) and vote out the disgusting dims.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Freeloader, 10/9/2013 10:57:55 AM     (No. 9557408)

"Look, it´s an all volunteer force. Nobody made these guys go to war. They had to have known and accepted the risks. Now they whine about bearing the costs of their choice? It doesn´t compute..."
-Barrack Hussein Obama

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Reply 31 - Posted by: RancherJack, 10/9/2013 10:58:21 AM     (No. 9557411)

Congress can step in at any time and squash all this like a bug.

Media appearances by Republicans?

[crickets]

Outrage by Republicans?

[crockets]

Outrage by media?

[crickets]

The people who need to be outraged and doing something have too much to lose if they get entangled with the goons hired by our government to do goon-thug things to Citizens.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: bobn.t, 10/9/2013 10:58:46 AM     (No. 9557412)

Attention: There is an America-hating, musbro, slimebag, living in DC, trying to destroy this country.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: bigfatslob, 10/9/2013 11:07:46 AM     (No. 9557438)

American hating Bayonet Boy Obama, his communist cabal and his America hating voters are enjoying this.
It´s obvious that Obama will nudge the Tea Party, bikers, conservatives, veteran until the first blow is struck with violence. He is gourding us into some action so he can strike back with his drones and military power. He will confiscate guns and declare himself dictator.
Obama wants to provoke the right to stamp us out. Be careful when confronting the enemy on the mall or anywhere else. Obama knows if he strikes first against the American citizens his kingship will be over and his party of communist is over. Watch and pay attention to his actions.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: FlatCityGirl, 10/9/2013 11:08:35 AM     (No. 9557441)

Standing ovation to #17 for cutting right to the heart of the problem, it needs to be said again, and it needs to be shouted from the rooftops: We have a man running this country who is not of our culture, not of America.

To the "birthers," I have said from day one, it doesn´t matter if he´d been born deep in the heart of Texas and could prove it. He was raised by people, and exposed to people, and his deepest associations have always been with people who who despise this nation and hold Her and Her People in contempt.

What better way to show your contempt for a nation than to disrespect the military, the very ones who have fought for centuries and continue to fight to keep us free.

Anyone who saw the video of Rev. Wright stand in the pulpit of a so-called church and ask God to damn America, and know that 0bama sat in the pews of that church for 20+ years, would have to know that 0bama is not of our culture; not OF America.

That´s the reason I hold people like Krauthammer and Noonan in contempt: they are the ones who told us we didn´t have anything to fear from an 0bama presidency, disregarding, completely ignoring Wright and Ayers and Dorne and Indonesia and "nothing so sweet as the sound of the Muslim call to prayer."

0bama is not OF America, and it goes far deeper than simply, "He hates America."

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Reply 35 - Posted by: postaway, 10/9/2013 11:12:34 AM     (No. 9557447)

#12, very touching and I am so sorry for your loss. Please know that many of us grateful for your son´s service and will pray for you.

The president knows that the bulk of people in this country will either not hear of this treatment of these families or, if they do, they won´t blame Obama. They´ll be primed my the lapdog press to blame Republicans, not realizing that as CinC he could help these families. But boy, when it comes to him, we must spare no expense. It is one thing to dislike a leader and another to feel sheer disgust. I am so there.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: K620, 10/9/2013 11:38:35 AM     (No. 9557509)

God bless you and your family and your fallen hero, pros7767. (I know we´re supposed to use your post number, but neither that nor hitting "like" seems appropriate). Your post should be a Must Read. Many thanks.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: Polecat49, 10/9/2013 11:49:50 AM     (No. 9557541)

Just one more attempt by the liberal, socialist, marxist, communist democrat nydailynews to shift blame away from their glorious infantile leader. I guess that is just the way you have to be when you are educated and indoctrinated in an anti-American educational system.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: fire_mission, 10/9/2013 11:56:15 AM     (No. 9557560)

The recent open and aggressive sadism of the Obama Administration has provided me with much greater insight as to how an enlightened population in Germany could fall into the clutches of National Socialism.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: john56, 10/9/2013 12:06:36 PM     (No. 9557584)

Again, sadly I´m a captive audience at a car dealership. NBC Today just started behind me (11 AM CT) with Al Roker complaining that the House Gym is still open while dead soliders´ families can´t get money (how much you wanna bet that Dingy Harry hasn´t shut down the House gym).

Shop wants $3000 for repairs ... guess what, I ain´t doing them here (MSNBC is on the other TV) nor would I buy another car from these folks.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: dman, 10/9/2013 12:14:32 PM     (No. 9557602)

#39: That Today opening was a vain thinly-veiled attempt to pin this on the Tea Party Caucus. Cutting off the funds when the House had already unanimously passed military funding is on Harry Reid and the Emperor. The people have been awakened, and more and more can see through the LSM´s lies.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: Marcus Tullius, 10/9/2013 12:24:22 PM     (No. 9557629)

#33

You may be right, but I do wonder what the wild card is going to be. "No plan survives first contact with the enemy." And that first contact cannot always be controlled to the planners´ liking.

Lincoln was patient enough and just provocative enough to goad the Confederate´s to attack Fort Sumter, but what if the South had instead, for example, sent a delegation with an armed escort to DC to negotiate with Lincoln? What would his response have been? To imprison them? Maybe. What if the escort had resisted? He would have lost the international moral high ground in the lead-up to war. And had he rejected the delegates? It would have been close to lose-lose for him as the South could have hoped for at the time.

So. What will Odumma do if the truckers shut down DC on Friday? Arrests? Will that lead to violence? Where would that leave the Teamsters? If the truckers shut down DC, is Odumma in even more of a lose-lose than he is right now? What are his "goof-for-him" options?

Lincoln got lucky for all the right reasons. Odumma isn´t facing a foe who will strike first - we´re not the third-worlders he´s planning for (he´s made it clear he doesn´t know us), but his leftist supporters are. Let him goad and provoke us then, because that´s who he´s really goading to action... and from an American point of view, it´s for all the wrong reasons. It will bite him in the private parts.

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Reply 42 - Posted by: GreatPlains, 10/9/2013 12:26:39 PM     (No. 9557634)

I am astounded that anyone is surprised by this.
The shutdown gave Obama the ability to pick and chose the areas receiving the most punishment.
Duh.
Who didn´t see this coming ???
It was either extremely naive or extremely dumb for the Shue Er Down caucus to think Obama
was going to act like Mr Rogers.
They handed him the weapon to bludgeon any targets he wanted and now they´re shocked ???
The same crowd is going to have a looooong wait if they think they guy is
ever going to defund Obamacare.
He knows , as does everyone else ,
that there are not enough Democrat votes in the Senate willing to join Republicans in order to
override his veto.
The Republicans had already negotiated a good budget deal from Reid-they got all the cuts they wanted and that´s gone, now.
What exactly was the point of the shutdown ?
If it was to weaken the Republican´s poll numbers and bargaining position, I guess it was a huge success.


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Reply 43 - Posted by: Udanja99, 10/9/2013 1:20:51 PM     (No. 9557715)

Take heart, friends. We are winning this one and it will lead to winning big next year. Despite all of the interference running by the LSM, AP has zippy´s approval down to 37% today. Think about that. The sycophantic AP. Just imagine what the number must truly be.

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Reply 44 - Posted by: Marcus Tullius, 10/9/2013 1:22:22 PM     (No. 9557719)

#42

So... Give up and give Odumma OdumassCare? Is that not a much greater weapon with which to bludgeon us?

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Reply 45 - Posted by: jt26, 10/9/2013 1:47:26 PM     (No. 9557768)

Barry Sotero is a piece of human trash.
He is the one responsible for destroying our economy, he needs to be held accountable.
He is a childish and spiteful man who genuinely hates his country. And the LoFo´s elected this jackass twice.

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Reply 46 - Posted by: enuf8, 10/9/2013 2:05:42 PM     (No. 9557800)

Fischer House has stood up to say they would fund the survivors of the military now, if they would be reimbursed later.

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Reply 47 - Posted by: Bohallx, 10/9/2013 2:07:55 PM     (No. 9557809)

#41 ~ the South struck first with the Fugitive Slave Act in 1850. In the interim Lincoln, and others like him, studied the situation and got ready and then, as the day followed the night, the chance came and they took it.

The South was not only relieved of the burden of slavery, it was crushed into insignificance for a century.

So, too, today. The Democrats overstepped again, and we´ve taken a good look at their product ~ we studied it ~ and now, the chance has come to remove these people out of the body politic forever!

ObamaKKKare is burdening our poor and our young with crushing expense. I think this business of criminalizing the normal behavior of free people to be the closest thing to the Fugitive Slave Act we´ve ever seen in modern times.

This time it´s the Democrats in the lead with the Fascist flag ~ and when it´s done there´ve got to be no more of their kind to vex us and challenge freedom.

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Reply 48 - Posted by: chatham, 10/9/2013 2:43:15 PM     (No. 9557899)



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Reply 49 - Posted by: chatham, 10/9/2013 2:52:08 PM     (No. 9557911)

This is the Lowest form of misery and Hurt this fake citizen Obama can impose on people already suffering their worst and most painful experience. this is some form of Necrophelia of the forst kind.. He should be charged with High crimes and Misdemeanor against people and their Families who have given their very lives so this Bum can sit in the white house. Enough, Enough ,Enough.





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Reply 50 - Posted by: JediJerry, 10/9/2013 3:12:13 PM     (No. 9557938)

This event will go on the list of things that will cost the Demonrats severely in the 2014 mid term elections. Post election analysis will prove that they thought that things like this will be squarely laid at the feet of those mean hateful heartless racist extortionist Republicans. Have they got a big surprise coming, and I can not wait to read the news headlines the morning of November 5, 2014. The day of reckoning is coming and it´s count down time. 390 days and a wake up.

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Reply 51 - Posted by: john c, 10/9/2013 3:25:26 PM     (No. 9557958)

From the connection:
A million vets are coming to DC to demand their monuments be opened

On Sunday October 13, 2013 the Million Vet March is going to take place at 90 a.m. at the World War II Memorial.

http://www.lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=755368


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Reply 52 - Posted by: gwmcclintok, 10/9/2013 3:27:13 PM     (No. 9557964)

Not to put too fine a point on it, Hagel and the administration have blatantly lied to the nation when they have asserted that there is no authority for the Pentagon to either pay the $100K death gratuity or provide transportation for families.

Earlier this week, the Secretary of Defense ordered approximately 400,000 civilian workers back to duty.

The Secretary of Defense has broad authority to reprogram funds from one appropriation to another. It is done all the time. The only requirement is that the reprogramming have a statutory authority. While Congress ultimately has to approve transfers between line items, it is done routinely. One can’t imagine anyone on Capitol Hill, other than Harry Reid and Dick Durbin, objecting to such an action.

The money is there. The authority exists. The only reason that the authorization hasn’t been made is that the Administration has decided that the public will blame the Republicans for this travesty. This is very much in keeping with the low esteem with which the Democrat party has historically held members of the armed forces. This is the party of the Slow Bleed strategy in Iraq so their abuse of the families of the dead isn’t a huge shock.

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Reply 53 - Posted by: thewarden, 10/9/2013 3:45:39 PM     (No. 9557995)

You know this just frosts The Won´s cookies! Too bad, Mr. Prezzy, there are gazillions of good people and groups in this country and we will not stand down!

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Reply 54 - Posted by: cake crumb, 10/9/2013 4:34:41 PM     (No. 9558074)

The "shutdown" is with holding nothing from anyone. BARRY is. What happened to all the money he supposedly was willing to spend a coupla weeks ago to bomb Syria?


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Reply 55 - Posted by: Libertygal, 10/9/2013 4:43:05 PM     (No. 9558090)

The one silver lining, if any can be found in all if this, is the neat little headline right now on Drudgereport. In fact, two of them. One says Moody´s all but call Obamster a liar about the debt ceiling.

The other? His popularity has slipped to 37%.

In all the anger, frustration, and emotional pain, it relieves me some to know his ego took a bruising when he saw that one. Yes, it made me feel good to know he winced in pain, because I know it stung. It stung bad. It´s about time he reaped some of what he has sown.

But, it goes far, far deeper than that. It means that even some Democrats an LoFo´s are waking up! Once you see something, you cannot UNSEE it! This is awesome news!

The light is dawning in the dark recesses, and the most delicious part of it all is he did it to himself. The Republicans have certainly not harped enough on any of these issues, therefore, peoples´ eyes are being opened by Bamsters own actions!

That knowledge, above everything else, had to have hit home about the same time the poll did.

I am enjoying every freaking schaudenfreude moment of it, too. It made my day, it made my week, and in every pain he has caused, it is nice to know he gets to share in that. It is only going to get worse, now, for him. Good.


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Reply 56 - Posted by: dodge boy, 10/9/2013 5:56:02 PM     (No. 9558194)

Just when I thought Obie hit bottom when ordering national park service to confine under armed guard some tourists at Yellowstone national park so they could not "recreate", now this. I keep saying, when...will...we..act and show Obie the door?

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Reply 57 - Posted by: dodge boy, 10/9/2013 6:05:39 PM     (No. 9558208)

And to #12, I dont know what words I can say.


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Reply 58 - Posted by: tusker, 10/9/2013 6:07:20 PM     (No. 9558211)

Bow-Boy and this low-life socialist D.C. scum are beyond despicable.

These current anti-American punitive actions against the military and so-called Tea Party activists (i.e. patriots 50 and older) while courting lawless illegals deserve perp walks for every damn one of ´em.

Demokrat/socialist/Communist/Blaque Panties:
outlaws all deserving of nothing less than (you fill in the blank); my response here will get me banned on this site.


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Reply 59 - Posted by: trackman999, 10/9/2013 6:13:52 PM     (No. 9558215)

obama & co. are morally vacant.

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Reply 60 - Posted by: octrojan, 10/9/2013 7:54:41 PM     (No. 9558354)

Remind me again why pundits and some Republicans think this shutdown is a political winner for Obama?

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Reply 61 - Posted by: Brian D. Paasch, 10/9/2013 8:33:42 PM     (No. 9558397)

Somewhere along the way, there was a coup. We the People have been overthrown. Be angry about it if you want but there is no way back to where we once were.

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Reply 62 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 10/9/2013 9:59:27 PM     (No. 9558485)

#12, I knew when I began reading your post that it could only have been written by someone who had endured a devastating loss. I am so sorry for your loss, and I wish your family God´s love in going on without your son. Your son is a hero and we all are grateful to him.

Michelle Malkin said in a column that the Obama Spitehouse had done something. That should be the name of the President´s residence until the next administration.

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Reply 63 - Posted by: Tianne, 10/10/2013 12:05:40 AM     (No. 9558651)

To dear #12/#13 – You have moved us to anguished tears. Please know that we weep with you, we mourn with you, and that we embrace you and your family in our prayers and in our hearts.


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Reply 64 - Posted by: philemon1967, 10/10/2013 12:09:42 AM     (No. 9558654)

I believe in in divine retribution and await the day when this spiteful, petulant boy (he certainly doesn´t like a man) gets his comeuppance together with his despicable wife.

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