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Analysis: IT experts question
architecture of Obamacare website

Reuters, by Sharon Begley

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Posted By:FlyRight, 10/7/2013 7:43:23 AM

Days after the launch of the federal government´s Obamacare website, millions of Americans looking for information on new health insurance plans were still locked out of the system even though its designers scrambled to add capacity.Government officials blame the persistent glitches on an overwhelming crush of users - 8.6 million unique visitors by Friday - trying to visit the HealthCare.gov website this week. The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, which oversaw development of the site, declined to make any of its IT experts available for interviews. CGI Group Inc, the Canadian contractor that built HealthCare.gov, is "declining to comment

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 10/7/2013 7:58:31 AM     (No. 9553795)

Clearly, this problem is due to the intransigence of Republicans and Ted Cruz in particular. All central planning, top down, big government schemes would work if it just wasn´t for conservative criticism.

Darn the luck !

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Reply 2 - Posted by: GoDeacs79, 10/7/2013 8:01:10 AM     (No. 9553800)

It took Barry´s people about 4 years just to Photoshop a birth certificate. They can´t be expected to do something this massive in that same amount of time.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Bubbasuncle, 10/7/2013 8:03:58 AM     (No. 9553802)

FTA:"the Canadian contractor that built HealthCare.gov,"

Let´s start with that, I wasn´t aware that we had a shortage of companies capable of doing this work in the USA.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: snapper451, 10/7/2013 8:07:36 AM     (No. 9553808)

Another great example of why the private healthcare system should be destroyed so the government can run all of healthcare. And the stupid people would still go along after this disaster. It boggles the mind on why people are not marching in the streets!

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Reply 5 - Posted by: strike3, 10/7/2013 8:09:40 AM     (No. 9553812)

"spokeswoman Linda Odorisio." In Spanglish, does that mean Very Bad Smell?

Again they are blaming the IT people. Chances are the specifications they got from the US Government are of the same quality as the 10,000 page monstrosity that was written in haste for this clustercluck of a law. It will be weeks until they get it working and I´m loving every minute of it.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: mws50, 10/7/2013 8:19:20 AM     (No. 9553825)

In the meantime, Drudge gets over 20 million hits A DAY!

This is just more proof of the incompetence of our federal government. Our clueless libtards "think" the government is smart enough to handle our medical care...

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Reply 7 - Posted by: mainelysane, 10/7/2013 8:26:40 AM     (No. 9553837)

"Blame Canada!"

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Reply 8 - Posted by: mainelysane, 10/7/2013 8:29:37 AM     (No. 9553843)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOR38552MJA

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Reply 9 - Posted by: wwsweet, 10/7/2013 8:33:55 AM     (No. 9553850)

Speaking of Drudge, there´s a headline today from CNN: "Journalism students get news from CBS, MSNBC, NBC, NPR, NYT -- and Jon Stewart."
My suggestion is that henceforth all state schools -- colleges, universities, community colleges -- should be defunded until half their journalism faculties are conservative. Especially in states whose governors are Republican. Boars-of-Regents shuld be given notice.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: wwsweet, 10/7/2013 8:36:45 AM     (No. 9553854)

...that was meant to be -- Boards-of-Regents should be given notice.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: stencil, 10/7/2013 8:41:37 AM     (No. 9553858)

Architecture

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Reply 12 - Posted by: wtm, 10/7/2013 8:42:01 AM     (No. 9553859)

Put the blame for all this where it belongs.

Call it "Barry Cading" !!!!

(And pass it on to your friends)

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Reply 13 - Posted by: jar, 10/7/2013 8:50:51 AM     (No. 9553872)

No wonder no one will tell us "how many people have signed up for Obamacare." Looks like the number could be zero.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Rusino, 10/7/2013 8:51:10 AM     (No. 9553873)

FIASCO !!!!!

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Reply 15 - Posted by: pineledger, 10/7/2013 9:03:00 AM     (No. 9553885)

I´m not an IT expert, but I question it simply because I know its source.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: M2, 10/7/2013 9:10:34 AM     (No. 9553891)

"It´s a bug in the system, a coding problem," said Jyoti Bansal, chief executive of AppDynamics, a San Francisco-based company that builds products that monitor websites and identify problems.

It´s a "bug". Is the term "bug" being used in the same trivial way that someone dying from cancer has a "bug"?

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Reply 17 - Posted by: LadyVet, 10/7/2013 9:13:59 AM     (No. 9553895)

So when are we going to hear again about those evil corporations who outsource and send jobs overseas? Doesn´t the fact that they chose a non-U.S. company make the administration evil? At least HHS Sec Sebelius?

And could some of the Republicans make a point of bringing up the point about the non-U.S. company? And that the reason for hiring them in the first place is because they want the U.S. system to be like the Canadians?

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Jethro bo, 10/7/2013 9:16:35 AM     (No. 9553899)

The results are everything we have come to expect from years of goobernment operations. Please name one new goobernment program done in the last 20 years that has even come close to working. Why should this be any different?

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Reply 19 - Posted by: jglas, 10/7/2013 9:23:30 AM     (No. 9553906)

Well then the solution is simple. Just upgrade the internet system in the US to fiber optics increasing the speed orders of magnitude. Then provide all users with much more powerful computers and add hundreds or thousands of servers to all the US agencies involved in exchanging information. Problem solved. It might cost a trillion or two but what the hey, just increase the debt ceiling however much it takes.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: lasvegaslou, 10/7/2013 9:23:45 AM     (No. 9553907)

There is a website that every day accommodates millions upon millions of people playing the most intricate, real-time, cash money, interactive game on earth - and it does it without a glitch. The game is poker and the site is "Party Poker."

Of course, here in the "land of the free" our Government, in it´s vast wisdom, has banned Americans from using Party Poker and others like it. They were not getting their payof..., er, cut.

Just one small example of entrepreneurial enterprise and Capitalism versus Socialism. Socialism loses every time - except in Washington, DC.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: janjan, 10/7/2013 9:25:17 AM     (No. 9553911)

Boehner is offering Obama a lifeline on this fiasco. These web applications were badly designed, never load tested, and likely will not be operational for weeks. The government wants to manage our health care but cannot competently get a website up and running in 3 1/2 years. And Obama wants to compare this to Apple? If they spent 3 1/2 years developing a piece of crap product heads would be rolling.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: mickturn, 10/7/2013 9:34:08 AM     (No. 9553921)

Monkeys with typewriters cannot a book write.

It´s as simple as that.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: joew9, 10/7/2013 9:41:28 AM     (No. 9553942)

When the government does something they act as if there is an unlimited supply of money. I would bet this project has been made precarious by project creep. "Just add this one more feature" when said ten times can jeopardize the project. When said hundreds of times like is typical of government projects, it destroys the project.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: kono, 10/7/2013 9:47:32 AM     (No. 9553959)

#17 - That´s a reasonable point of confusion.

The term "bug" was originally coined in reference to the nuisance of moths getting into the arrays of vacuum tubes and shorting-out early computers. Over subsequent decades, silicon chips supplanted the tubes as the switching elements, making them much faster, longer-lived, and more bug-resistant.

During that time, use of the term "bug" evolved away from incidental hardware failures to system design flaws that produce unwanted or unpredictable program results. Nowadays, software circles treat "bug" simply as the opposite of "feature"...

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Reply 25 - Posted by: mc squared, 10/7/2013 10:05:53 AM     (No. 9553983)

He went to Canada for the design because most programmers in this country would have blown the whistle long ago.



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Reply 26 - Posted by: lasvegaslou, 10/7/2013 10:12:23 AM     (No. 9553996)

Reply #5 and #24 are right on the mark. Back in the ´60s, in the early days of computing and before I found my true calling, I worked for 2 Fortune 50 companies designing and installing their new, super expensive computer systems. The biggest problems, hands down, was always in the specifications and dealing with change after change after the spec was signed off on.

Nine times out of ten, the people that put together the spec were not capable of even telling us what they wanted. We would tell them over and over, them most often being senior executive staff, that once coding started it would be very difficult to go back and start changing things because the system is being built one piece top of another. In one ear and out the other. Try telling an Executive VP of a major company that his brilliant new idea was downright stupid.

Same with this Government. Being the smartest and most honest Government ever, it is inconceivable that they could ever be wrong - about anything. They probably went to Canada because nobody in this Country would take on the job.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Trigger2, 10/7/2013 10:22:22 AM     (No. 9554012)

A Canadian Co. built it? I guess this goes along with redistribution of wealth, only Barry has a new program of outsourcing IT resources to other countries. After all, you can´t build a massive architecture with part-time employees. Once again, he´s waived another law (Buy American Act).

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Reply 28 - Posted by: cjjeepercreeper, 10/7/2013 10:26:05 AM     (No. 9554021)

If its a "coding problem", then what they are saying between the lines is the entire system is flawed. Like poster #27 said, the people that wrote the software have to write it within the parameters given to them by executives that no absolutely nothing about the complexities of relationships you build from one piece of information to the next. I would not be surprised if this software was "fatally flawed", that meaning that it will never work properly unless rewritten from the ground up. This happens more than you think, I´ve been in the middle of such a mess before, a database was handed to me to basically run a government agency with. The database was designed and written by people that knew absolutely nothing about the actual agency, we tried to work with it, ended up scrapping it and starting from scratch. With a project the size of barrycare they can keep fixing "glitches" until the end of time, but it will never work properly I´ll bet without a complete ground up rewrite.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: Avogadra, 10/7/2013 10:30:45 AM     (No. 9554036)

There is another layer to this madness. Software designers NEVER make mistakes. That´s by definition. They are brilliant people and their code is always perfect.

And when the poor, benighted users come up with example after example of malfunctions, it´s obviously because the users are doing something wrong. It takes incredible pressure and months to straighten it all out because, as I said, software designers NEVER make mistakes.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: nevernaught, 10/7/2013 10:34:58 AM     (No. 9554046)

Just plain GIGO (garbage in garbage out), a computer term that fits the Obama Misadministration precisely.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: novakid, 10/7/2013 10:43:50 AM     (No. 9554064)

Another example of what happens when the Inmates are put in charge of the Asylum.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: Calvinesq, 10/7/2013 11:07:51 AM     (No. 9554121)

When government is in charge of an enterprise, the enterprise will be pathetically inefficient, outrageously costly and extremely corrupt. It will be cronyism on steroids.

Thus, the eternal phrase: "Not bad for gov´ment work."

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Eheu Fugaces, 10/7/2013 11:10:21 AM     (No. 9554124)

It´s all Bush´s fault.

(Just ask Obama).

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Reply 34 - Posted by: OhMy, 10/7/2013 11:15:12 AM     (No. 9554131)

Miss Nancy told us we would have to pass the law to find out what is in it. We still haven´t found this out till the programmers code it. They are the ones that have to pin down all the vagaries of the 2000+ page bill. This and the insanity of collecting so much information to social engineer everyone´s behaviour explains the problem! Look at the blizzard of Java code that is triggered when you apply. The servers DDOS themselves in their normal operation.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: Marzon, 10/7/2013 11:21:34 AM     (No. 9554146)

This was predictable. After all, they have spent over a decade and countless billions to upgrade the FAA computer systems and I think they are still working on getting the "bugs" out of that.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: The Advocate, 10/7/2013 11:23:03 AM     (No. 9554150)

Perhaps someone was able to insert a stuxnet virus into this monstrosity?
Is this similar to the exposure of the global warming scam through posting on a Russian server the emails of CRU Phil Jones and Penn States Michael Mann and how they falsified the data, sabotaged the work of anyone exposing them and LIED to continue the Global Warming scam?
Lame Cherry may be on to something.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: snowoutlaw, 10/7/2013 11:36:30 AM     (No. 9554169)

Why is it even up and running at all? Its the only part of the government that is not funded.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: faith_and_reason, 10/7/2013 12:06:48 PM     (No. 9554206)

I´m in enthusiastic agreement with those who say this software will likely need to be scrapped and rebuilt from the ground up, taking months and millions of dollars at a minimum.

If the bill is passed guaranteeing that federal employees will receive pay for hours furloughed, those employees are now on paid vacation, and most will not be (seriously) clamoring for an end to the furlough.

That is a perfect storm. The stories will continue to accumulate of website failures, incorrectly recorded data, etc. Like it or not, the major media will be forced to cover the facts accurately.

The longer the Republicans hold out, passing the bills that will open the National Parks, fund cancer research, restart the Amber Alert site, etc., the more the stories will go in favor of the Tea Party ideals.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: comstock, 10/7/2013 12:28:56 PM     (No. 9554246)

Back in the 70´s I was a Test Engineer for a company that was developing computerized supermarket checkout systems. When we completed a software upgrade we would set up a mock supermarket checkout line and test it. The final test would occur when we called the temp help agency and told them to send us 15 of the dumbest people they had. They would argue to send us the best they had, and we would insist on dumb ones.

We trained them, put them to work checking out baskets of groceries and watched for problems. We called it the "Gorilla Test."

I guess we´re all gorillas now.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: P51DMustang, 10/7/2013 1:12:28 PM     (No. 9554313)

Bottom line, no real testing took place. If it had the list of defects would have been known.

Had the list of defects been known, Odumbo would have taken the offer of the House for a year delay in OdumboCare. They would have also taken the Medical equipment tax as well.

They then would have had until December 15 to hash out the budget, and a year to fix defects. Now the systems operators will have to try Hot Fixes which never work. They generally break something else and the analyst start chasing their tails.

But, DearReader let his ego rule they day. Besides, Gates did not test their MS OS applications and got away with it. Why not the I one?

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Reply 41 - Posted by: Attercliffe, 10/7/2013 1:39:57 PM     (No. 9554364)

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, which oversaw development of the site, declined to make any of its IT experts available for interviews.

Okay. This means Obama´s DHHS IT experts are responsible; this should be called Barrycoding.

I´d like to see a bit of Barryceding.

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Reply 42 - Posted by: Timber Queen, 10/7/2013 2:34:41 PM     (No. 9554457)

I think it was designed to not work, as all of Obamacare is designed to not work. Its purpose from the start was to disrupt and dismantle the greatest health care system in the world, insert chaos, and then go straight to single payer government healthcare.

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Reply 43 - Posted by: darrel.howell, 10/7/2013 2:56:09 PM     (No. 9554500)

3 days from now:
"OK we got the money, doesn´t matter about sticker shock anymore. Plug the servers back in!"

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Reply 44 - Posted by: Mother of AL, 10/7/2013 3:21:30 PM     (No. 9554558)

I´m coming with a tinfoil hat reply. I wonder if it was just downloading to multiple sites that will then record our healthcare info to multiple users for multiple uses????

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Reply 45 - Posted by: Farmwife1, 10/7/2013 7:25:27 PM     (No. 9554855)

Did the fools actually think people were going to filter in gradually over a month or so? I still can´t decide if the regime is evil, completely out of tough with reality, or just plain stupid.

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Reply 46 - Posted by: Foggybottom, 10/7/2013 10:07:17 PM     (No. 9555057)

If they need more processing power they should use the NSA server farms.

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Daily Mail [UK], by David Martosko    Original Article
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The Obama administration is poised to entertain a flood of new clemency applications from thousands of federal prisoners who were given harsh sentences under mandatory-minimum laws following drug convictions, Attorney General Eric Holder said Monday. Holder said in a short videotaped statement that he wants to shrink the federal prison population by a modest amount while ensuring ´that those who have paid their debts have a chance to become productive citizens.´ At the center of the move is a set of old sentencing rules that punished crack-cocaine offenders with more time behind bars than users or traffickers of powder cocaine.

Benghazi attack could have been prevented if
US hadn´t ´switched sides in the War on Terror´
and allowed $500 MILLION of weapons to reach
al-Qaeda militants, reveals damning report

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Daily Mail [UK], by David Martosko    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/22/2014 7:02:40 PM     Post Reply
The Citizens Commission on Benghazi, a self-selected group of former top military officers, CIA insiders and think-tankers, declared Tuesday in Washington that a seven-month review of the deadly 2012 terrorist attack has determined that it could have been prevented – if the U.S. hadn´t been helping to arm al-Qaeda militias throughout Libya a year earlier. ´The United States switched sides in the war on terror with what we did in Libya, knowingly facilitating the provision of weapons to known al-Qaeda militias and figures,´ Clare Lopez, a member of the commission and a former CIA officer, told MailOnline. She blamed the Obama administration

Why Does Nation Tolerate A
Habitual Liar As President?

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Investors Business Daily, by Editorial    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/22/2014 2:10:54 PM     Post Reply
Public Trust: Sixty-one percent polled say President Obama lies "some of the time" or "most of the time" on matters of national importance. Americans have to ask: Why do we let him get away with it? It´s no surprise that a Fox News poll of 1,012 registered voters last week found immense distrust of a president whose main domestic initiative was based on a lie. The shock is that the same poll found his disapproval level down to its lowest since last fall. Asked, "How often do you think Barack Obama lies to the country on important matters?" 37% replied "most of

Dole: Cruz, Paul & Rubio
lack experience for 2016

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The Hill [Washington, DC], by Mario Trujillo    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/22/2014 11:18:06 AM     Post Reply
Former Sen. Bob Dole (R-Kan.) said a number of junior GOP senators considering a presidential run in 2016 do not yet have the experience — specifically naming Rand Paul (Ky.), Marco Rubio (Fla.) and Ted Cruz (Texas). The former 1996 GOP presidential candidate sounded particularly skeptical of Cruz in an interview this week with The Wichita Eagle. "A number of the younger members, first-termers like Rand Paul, Rubio and that extreme-right-wing guy, Ted Cruz — all running for president now. I don´t think they´ve got enough experience yet," Dole said. The 90-year-old former senator said, however, his main concern about 2016 is living

Jeb Bush is your only chance
against Hillary, Republicans

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Hot Air, by Bob Schrum    Original Article
Posted By: quantumman- 4/22/2014 6:32:54 AM     Post Reply
If Jeb reaches for the nomination, there will be a titanic battle between the party establishment and the Tea Party. Steve Schmidt, McCain’s strategist in 2008, insists that in the end Republicans usually settle on the most electable candidate. To get by, this Bush may be forced to trim his positions, although the cautionary tale of Romney suggests that he would have to tack artfully and carefully for the sake of the general election. Certainly he will have the resources to outlast, discredit, and disqualify his rivals.

Michelle Obama:
´splurging is the key to life´

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Associated Press, by Staff    Original Article
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Washington - Michelle Obama said "splurging is the key to life" if you regularly eat right and stay active. Her biggest guilty pleasure: French fries. "How would you appreciate vegetables if you never had chocolate?" she asked. "You couldn´t live without a little chocolate, a little French fries." The first lady took questions from children reporters Monday after appearing at the White House Easter Egg Roll. She told the children that if they eat right the majority of the time, then a splurge or snack is not going to hurt them. "I still splurge when I can, but that's why I try to exercise almost every day," she said.

Fraud runs rampant in Census Bureau
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New York Post, by John Crudele    Original Article
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There’s a pattern of falsifying statistics throughout the entire Census Bureau. And anyone who attempts to blow the whistle on the fraud is either retaliated against or ignored, according to two new sources who have experienced the process firsthand. As I’ve been writing for more than six months, the Census Bureau office in Philadelphia uncovered a case of fraud in 2010, did nothing about it and allowed the practice to continue. In that instance, a data collector named Julius Buckmon was faking reports that went into the nation’s all-important jobless tally and consumer-inflation survey. Because the Census Bureau’s surveys are scientific — meaning

Professor: ‘Colleges Will Start Closing Up’ if
‘Racist, Misogynist, Money-Grubbing’ GOP Wins

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National Review Online, by Andrew Johnson    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/22/2014 4:42:50 PM     Post Reply
New audio reveals an Eastern Connecticut State University professor warning that Republicans will “want things to go back — not to to 1955, but to 1855? if they win control of Congress in November. Republican victories could also put him out of a job, he cautioned. “We will live in a very, very, very different kind of country if that happens,” Professor Brent Terry told students in his Introduction to Creative Writing course, according to audio obtained by Campus Reform. “I mean, colleges will start closing up if these people have their way.” Over the course of his rant, Terry characterized conservatives

Would YOU be underwater if the
polar caps melted? Map reveals
what our planet would look like
if sea levels rose by 260ft

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Daily Mail (UK), by Ellie Zolfagharifard    Original Article
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Global sea levels have risen by 8 inches (20cm) since 1880 and scientists predict they could rise up to 3ft (98cm) by 2100. But despite the UN’s recent threats of war, famine and extreme weather, such a dramatically different world caused by sea level rise can be hard to imagine. To help picture the future, Martin Vargic, an amateur graphic designer from Slovakia, has created a map depicting the planet with sea levels around 260ft (79m) higher than they are today. He imagines what Earth would look like if the ice sheets surrounding the North and South poles melted, releasing

Reid: ´We Are a Nation of Laws,
Not of Men and Women´

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Cybercast News Service, by Susan Jones    Original Article
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It may not be tomorrow, but Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) says "something will happen" to force a Nevada rancher to obey a court order to stop grazing his cattle on federal land and pay his grazing fees. "It´s obvious that you can´t just walk away from this," Reid said in an April 18 interview with a Nevada´s KSNV-TV News 3 program “What’s Your Point?” "You can´t have a law that is -- we´re a nation of laws, not of men and women," he said. (Video) Reid noted that most cattlemen pay their taxes, pay their fees, and follow

38 Republican lawmakers put aside differences
for lawsuit challenging legality of Obamacare

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Washington Times, by Dave Boyer    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/22/2014 5:20:31 AM     Post Reply
Thirty-eight Republican lawmakers, including such unlikely bedfellows as John McCain of Arizona and Ted Cruz of Texas, have joined to support a lawsuit challenging the legality of the Affordable Care Act and accusing the president of repeatedly ignoring the law he signed for political reasons. The lawmakers have signed onto a legal brief in support of a lawsuit filed by Sen. Ron Johnson, the Wisconsin Republican who is asking a federal court to overturn Obamacare’s special treatment for members of Congress and their staffs. “The unlawful executive action at issue in this case is not an isolated incident,” the brief

´Hacking the Constitution´: States
Quietly Plan to Ditch Electoral College

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Fox News, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/22/2014 10:44:27 AM     Post Reply
Nearly a dozen states have quietly signed onto a plan to effectively ditch the Electoral College and instead, award the White House to the candidate that wins the popular vote. The National Popular Vote agreement would take effect if states that represent 270 electoral votes all commit. New York has most recently joined the efforts, bringing the number of states to 10 plus the District of Columbia. Altogether, they represent 165 electoral votes. Without the Electoral College, FoxNews.com digital politics editor Chris Stirewalt said we would have had a whole different trajectory of presidents. If presidents are selected through the


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