Shutdown: Hundreds of thousands will go without pay as federal government loses funding for the first time in 17 years following Republicans´ last-ditch effort* Daily Mail [UK], by David Martosko, Meghan Keneally
The federal government lost its checkbook at midnight, and it may not find it for days or weeks. As the zero-hour drew closer on Monday, with other avenues exhausted, the White House´s Office of Management and Budget told federal agencies that they ´should now execute plans for an orderly shutdown due to the absence of appropriations.´ House Republican leaders on the Rules Committee had discussed the procedures for both parties to appoint ´conferees´--negotiating representatives--for a joint House-Senate conference committee empowered to hash out a compromise of the budget battle that has consumed Washington for days. The House GOP scrambled all
Comments: *to arrange a budget compromise with Senate Democrats
Quite different from the almost hysterical piece by the BBC´s Mark Mardell (below).
The idea that the world will end if the government is not funded is purely a Democrat/Progressive talking point, one that is not backed up by history.
You would think that these journalists would have some critical thinking skills, but they characterized the shutdown as "the death knell for the Republicans". What, do they have some divine gift of clairvoyance??
A long shutdown will greatly benefit the GOP as they will be able to get their message out about this government and the Obamacare law in particular. It´s not like the press will love them if they cave. Actually, they will ridicule the GOP if they cave, laugh at them, and the GOP base will quit on them.
Headline is NOT correct - it should read - hundreds of thousands go with pay - DEFERRED - until spending approved. Then they get BACK PAY, WITHOUT DOING THE WORK. So if your visa card is not topped out when the shutdown starts - go take a vacation in the caribbean - when you get back you´ll be paid for the time you were on holiday. Not bad work if you can handle all the stress of a federal job.
Just stay as far away from DC for the next 12 hours or so. Every "non-essential" Govt employee must go to their jobs to sign a letter concerning the shut down and then immediately leave. Over 750,000 freakin people on the freakin roads at the same freakin time!!! I cannot wait to leave this freakin area - and I practically grew up here!!! Lord, save me.
Reply 11 - Posted by:
The Advocate, 10/1/2013 3:35:29 AM (No. 9544184)
Why hasn´t Reid´s Dem Senate passed a Constitutionally required Budget in over 1000 days? Good time to defund the Education aka Dem Propaganda Department, the EPA, Energy and Obamacare. Let the private sector take over and watch the economy roar back.
If a budget were to be even brought for a vote or even negotiations the American history people would be able to see what´s being spent and where. That would not be a good thing for the Dem´s. We´re supposed to just shut up and pay our taxes. Let our "betters" take care of things.
I was informed that signing the letter before today was illegal. I asked as I am "partially disabled" and the 3+ hours of driving roundtrip was a hardship. I´d very much like to know who was able to do so.
Once again, our venerable government with liberty and justice for all. yeah.
Shutdown will adversely affect one immediate member of my family. And that member isn´t a Dem or fascist. Regardless, it is the price one pays for working for the goobernment. Get use to it. Layoffs and other reductions happen all the time in the non goobernment world. Why should goobernment employees be any different. Use the time to look for another job, one not tied to fascist that will stop at nothing to fulfill their fascist agenda to destroy democracy and freedom. The shutdown needs to have legs. Sorry if it hurts the Rebublicans but it is the RINOs that carry the highest risk. The Rebublican base is changing the Rebublican party. RINOs are no longer tolerated. This shutdown may be the tipping point for the remake of the Rebublican parties and RINOs need to know they risk losing the most.
I hate to rain on the government shutdown parade but Boehner will cave and Obamacare is being launched with or without this. We would have been better off letting this implode and then cleaning up in the midterms. There are not enough Republicans with enough backbone to make this work. Sorry.
Oh no, what´ll we do if we need the government for something like for . . . something or . . .for something else . . . how can they do this to us? . . . like for protecting the country, yeah that´s it, for protecting the country huh? Answer me that!
You can count on one thing. The media will be spinning like crazy to place the blame on the Republicans and only the Republicans. They have to accomplish this quickly so the people don´t realize that the sun will not fall out of the sky if the government shuts down. The pressure will be intense. However, if they do, and I expect they will, it will be the end of the party because people are fed up with this oppressive government. Republicans get your talking points ready. Be firm. Be reasonable. Hammer the democrats on two points. The exemption for congress from Obamacare and The administrations FAILURE to present budget which caused these never ending funding crises. Go get ´em! The people are on your side. Oh, be sure to lock McCain, King, Graham and their pals in a closet so they can´t get to the microphones. Unlease Cruz, Lee, Paul, and their guys and get to it. Don´t act like you´ve done anything wrong. YOU have stood for the people against tyranny!
Obie really painted himself ino a corner this time, no? This phony shutdown thing will last for two weeks because the real battle happens in mid-October when the so-called debt ceiling comes up for a vote. Then, we will find out what Obie is made of (which is not much, by the way).
I purposely stayed up late last night in order to observe the House of Representatives during the run-up and run-down to and from midnight, Washington DC Time on CSPAN (Short Attention Span Theatre). In just those few hours, I witnessed enough bloviating Democrat Liberal Progressive Socialist et al gentle men and gentle ladies awkwardly attempting to ignore the 1,000 lb. elephants representing truth in the room to cause me excruciating pain in my own gentles. Reality was nowhere in sight. Think Nursery School on the Potomac!
The real death-knell for House GOP efforts, however, came at 11:45 p.m. when New York Rep. Louise Slaughter, the top Democrat on the rules committee, said she wouldn´t support such a conference.
So now who are the ones who have lost their minds?
Three times the GOP has requested a conference. Three times they were denied. The POTUS denied he´d negotiate. Slaughter said, "no conference."
And they´re blaming Republicans? This is an Obama temper tantrum because his signature issue, Obamacare, is despised by the GOP and most Americans. He wants it force-fed to us. We don´t want his medicine. We want our own choices.
Doctors are resigning across America. Nurses, PA´s and hospitals are getting their hours cut. Death panels are already in existence (try to get an old person with dementia committed to a psych ward if you don´t believe it).
OPEN LETTER TO DEMOCRAT PARTY: It is you, not Republicans who are being intransigent. Why won´t you compromise? Here are some suggestions:
1. Agree to abide by the same Obamacare laws that affect other Americans.
2. Eliminate the individual mandate AND the employer mandate.
3. Get bureaucratic pencil-pushers off the team that makes medical decisions.
4. Get out of my bedroom, my doctor´s office, my sex life, my gun-ownership rights and in general, bugger off.
5. Poll Americans to find out who wants Obamacare and give it to them, leaving the rest of us the hell alone.
Traffic in the Washington DC suburbs as far out as Amisville VA has slowed to a record breaking crawl this morning as 100% of all federal employees are going in to work EARLY to get the news in time to GET HOME and GO SHOPPING or SLEEP ......
* The world will not come to an end * Overpaid unessential federal workers are furloughed * Government bloat is halted * Voters will learn, like with sequester, that they can live with less government * IRS audits are suspended * The DC economy will now feel a pinch like the rest of us * Global cooling will continue * Battle lines are drawn for the debt ceiling fight * The GOP is finally standing for something and, yes: * The Dems now own Obamacare and its consequences lock, stock, and barrel
I know this isn´t all about me, but I´m so upset right now. After a long eight years, I´m finally going back to my beloved Smoky Mountains this weekend, and the national park will be closed because our idiots in Congress can´t get their act together. But hey--the IRS will still collect taxes, and you can still get your food stamps!
"The shutdown was completely preventable....And the House can end it as soon as possible as soon as it follows the Senate´s lead, and funds your work in the USG without trying to attach highly controversial and partisan measurs in the process."
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lil dotty, 10/1/2013 10:17:47 AM (No. 9544561)
As most on this site agree..boo hoo boo hoo
Now these government workers are able to feel what the American taxpayer has felt the past 5 hears of living in the liberal hell hole of obomba and his fascist regime. Learn to adapt. We managed to live with nothing. You can do so as well. What makes you so special? Your blue blood? Or do YOU have purple lips like our ear leader (a false sign of true royalty)
WE DO NOT WANT THIS OBOMBACARE. Apparently, neither do you.
Republicans, hang tough and stand together. If you fail, so does this country.
What boggles the mind is the fact that those being furloughed are deemed to be non-essential personnel. If that is truly the case, which I have no doubt it is, why are there so many non-essential government employees? The government is not a charity, despite the Democrats´ best efforts.
When I ran an office, I used to hire temporary people during our "busy" season. When that season was over, those temps were let go. Non-essential workers should be considered as temporary help - not regular payroll employees whose help is needed year round.
The glee here that those employed by the federal government will go without a paycheck is disturbing. A lot of decent , honest , conservative , anti Obamacare people are employed by the federal government. Even if they will be eventually paid , some live paycheck to paycheck and this will affect them. They´re not all " pigs " as # 32 describes them. What is the Tea Party endgame other than euphoria that the government is partially shut down ? Obamacare is not going to be repealed and it looks extremely doubtful that it will be delayed. Quinnipiac poll out today has approval of Congressional Republicans at a historic low 17 / 74 , with Democrats at 34 /60 . However , when given a choice on the generic Congressional ballot , Democrats have a 9 point edge .
#46 ~ your imagination is running wild ~ not everybody in a nonessential job has had it all that long ~ they have not been working for 5 years ~ many of them have been unemployed for most of that period.
Times are tough ~ nothing is static ~ and now we got an idiot ~ a total idiot for President and he told the Speaker of the House "I will not negotiate"
Time to remove him!
Boehner should assign a committee the duty of drawing up the Articles of Impeachment.
Excuse the second post but many (most?) of the federal workers identified as "essential" are managers who have little to no clue about the day-to-day operations for which they are responsible. The employees in the know - who keep things running smoothly, are deemed non-essential. So now these "essential" managers can sit around and not have to worry about trying to look busy. Pathetic.
Let´s not forget that the last thing Reid and the dems did before midnight was to refuse to consider a revised bill which would have ended their exemption from zippycare. They want to force it on us but not on themselves. We should be screaming this from the rooftops!
Even if it´s one political party that controls only one segment of one house of a three tiered governmnet, isn´t this known as "checks and balances" that the founders wrote into the Constitution? It seems to me that that is exactly what is happening. We have a tyranical government attempting to force upon the citizens a program that they overwhelming don´t want and aginst there will amd just a handful of congress persons standing up and shouting STOP. We don´t need or what this mess. So, let the shutdown commence. The absolutely necessary portions will continue. Most of what will be shut down won´t even be noticed by the majority of people.
Let´s take a moment and give Boehner some credit for marshaling the Republicans in the House...they did NOT cave as many expected and worked over he weekend to frame 3 votes with the caucus staying intact...today, it is totally inaccurate to try and divide the GOP caucus into Republicans and a sub-group called Tea Party...I reject the LSM media´s meme that a small group of Republicans in the House hijacked the caucus...Boehner simply grew a pair and got-er-dun! Cruz, Lee, Rogers, Vitter et al were masterful...
I´ve made it through most of a day without even knowing that the government was shut down. My work schedule doesn´t allow me to get to the news until noon. I´m going to try to make it through tomorrow too. Any bets?
Now would be a great time for Barry and Mooch to go on another vacation, unless the guy who loads the teleprompter is still working. Barry should now have lots of free time to work up a blame game against the republicans for why the democrats didn´t do their jobs in creating a real budget.
What a lie. What a joke. Useless not essential desk bureaucrats of NO VALUE, get paid time off, away from their useless desk jobs, knowing the deferred tax stolen money is on the way when this charade is over. Like the, "Take the 5th" darling Lois Lerner of the IRS and the fanatic Islamic murderer down in Texas, these beasts continue getting paid, too, under all circumstnaces. Sounds like our giving away billions of foreign graft (er aid) to our islamic enemies, too. Our communist driven government is drunkenly reckless with their stolen money.
#39 You know I love most of your posts... I have to take issue with one of your points. The DC area economy will BOOM today. Feds are out running errands spending money.
That said, thanks to those who recognize :-D that not all of us are libs. It´s´ a lot like Hollywood here. You don´t´ advertise it. I once was at an office Christmas, oh no!!, I mean "Holiday" party. I had only been a govie since May. One of the managers made a slight snide remark about Rush. I piped up, not knowing any better, and said "Hey, Rush is my man". You could´ve heard from a pin drop. ;-D. At least they knew where I stood.
Dingy Harry is just another one of the useless slugs sucking money from the taxpayers of this country. If all these 800,000 are Non essential don´t bring them back to this useless Bunch of Misanthropes called the "democrat Party".
These hundreds of thousands of parasites should be gone, period. The " non-essentials " who are simply on a welfare program while calling themselves gainfully employed. It takes an Einstein to comprehend why the federal government needs over two million employees to function, all the while unable to do anything right.
How do all of you Obama voters like your "cool" president now? You gave a high office to a boy because he was black. The fact that he is a vindictive child never crossed your minds did it? It is HIS fault that you are out of work, not ours, not the republicans. As the days go on, maybe reality will sink in, but after five years, I doubt it.
Poster is right. It´s certainly not right to call it gooberment; It´s a lawless regime that believes it has the power to change or ignore laws as it sees fit. The regime figures it can get away with this lawlessness because it has a cowed Supreme Court, a compliant corrupt news media and a sufficiently bamboozled and ignorant electorate. Looks like the regime figures correctly.
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