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It’s the Law, Yes, and
Most Americans Oppose It

National Review Online, by Jeffrey H. Anderson

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Posted By:Dreadnought, 9/30/2013 11:31:03 PM

Today, more than three and a half years after the Democrats passed Obamacare into law, the overhaul’s exchanges — its East German–like government marketplaces — will finally, sort of, open for business. The Democrats fully expect their fellow Americans to be so excited about buying government-approved insurance through these government-run exchanges that they’re choosing to shut down the government rather than delay the individual mandate for a year. Better to shut down the government, it would seem, than let Americans freely decide — even for a year — whether or not to buy Obamacare-based insurance. Alas, the individual mandate’s penalties

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Rmagnus, 10/1/2013 12:06:59 AM     (No. 9544101)

It´s also the law that the House controls the purse strings. Obama says if we want the law repealed then we need to win an election. Well, we did. The House is now under our control and that is our mandate to stop this mess by starving it of funding. If he wants it funded then he needs to win back the House.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: PChristopher, 10/1/2013 12:31:01 AM     (No. 9544113)

Prohibition was the law, too...see how well that turned out. If it can be funded, it can be defunded or repealed.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Deedo, 10/1/2013 12:43:10 AM     (No. 9544122)

The GOP has to see that there is already unpopular and the painful part of Obamacare has only just started.

When younger Americans see their insurance costs triple (which is the case), sucking up all of their discretionary income for some, the glaze of Obama-fealty will fall from their eyes and they won´t like this law at all.

Since when was it legitimate for the Senate majority leader the President to not even discuss compromise and illegitimate for the House to want to shelve or greatly modify a bad bill? What, every bill once passed can never be touched?? Bunk.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 10/1/2013 12:49:50 AM     (No. 9544125)

That´s not all We oppose.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Donna M, 10/1/2013 1:52:07 AM     (No. 9544150)

Most low information voters think that on 1 Jan they will get a card in the mail and not pay for anything, much less a premium. When you run the KFF calculator, for those who get the subsidy, that is pretty much the projection (whch may or may not be true) (see http://kff.org/interactive/subsidy-calculator/) That includes the college kids. And as their parents pay for it...they feel nothing, so they will continue to holler for their Jug-Eared Thug Hero.



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Reply 6 - Posted by: woofwoofwoof, 10/1/2013 2:05:11 AM     (No. 9544158)

Sign here, it´s a law.
Sign there, it´s not a law.
So, what´s the point?

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Reply 7 - Posted by: planetgeo, 10/1/2013 2:18:53 AM     (No. 9544166)

The Democrats are very selective about which laws they are passionate about having all of us obey without question. They obviously we´re not so passionate about immigration laws or the Defense of Marriage law.

Their appeal to us with "it´s the law" reminders is hardly compelling.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: WhamDBambam, 10/1/2013 6:54:19 AM     (No. 9544289)

At one time, "the law" required that runaway slaves be returned to their Democrat masters, too.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Jethro bo, 10/1/2013 7:08:12 AM     (No. 9544299)

Begin the revolution. Start by calling the fascist in the House, Senate and White Hut. Let them know that you blame them and will hold them responsible for any consequences. If not represented by fascist, then call your elected RINO and let them know that you hold them responsible for enabling the fascist to continue this disaster. And for the few with a real live conservative elected representative, call them and thank them. Light up the switch boards and let our goobernment know how we feel and not to take solace in the echo chamber Kneepad Media propaganda.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: eden202, 10/1/2013 7:13:11 AM     (No. 9544302)

Nancy,

Vote first,

Read It Later,

Thank You Ma´am,

You are excommunicated!




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Reply 11 - Posted by: edgar, 10/1/2013 7:16:17 AM     (No. 9544306)

CONGRESS MUST PASS A BUDGET. ITS THE LAW!

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Janjan, 10/1/2013 7:19:24 AM     (No. 9544311)

We have immigration laws on the books too that have been there for many years yet we are told by the Feds that they are impossible to uphold - and Obama blatantly refuses to recognize them.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: jeffkinnh, 10/1/2013 7:38:36 AM     (No. 9544326)

The law was, women could NOT vote. That law got changed. Obamacare can´t be? Absurd.

Grumpy, do-nothing Harry having a temper tantrum doesn´t make it so.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: gwmcclintok, 10/1/2013 8:15:34 AM     (No. 9544385)

The health care law says that if you can’t find a plan that costs less than 8 percent of your income, then you’re exempt from the requirement to purchase health insurance.
Well there you are. Healthcare will be free to the un-employed, the millions now on disability, poor Americans, stay at home moms and fathers, those on wic and welfare. Those millions on medicare which I am one. Disabled veterans from war which I am one. Congress. Don´t forget the illegal having babies. They are exempt.
This thing called ocare will destroy America.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: trapper, 10/1/2013 8:26:52 AM     (No. 9544399)

Sigh. The foundational mistake that we keep backsliding into is approaching Obamacare as if it has anything whatsoever to do with health insurance or healthcare. It does not. It has never been about healthcare. It is and has always been about control. Government control of 1/5 of the economy, sure. But most importantly, government control over every last detail of deciding who will be permitted to live and who will not. Government will decide whether your life is worth saving. Obamacare sets the stage for the 21st Century mass extermination of Americans by denying some (can you say Baby Boomer?) medical care.

Eliminating populations. It´s what totalitarians do best. By the way, John Holdren is still Obama´s science czar.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: another_clinton, 10/1/2013 8:36:14 AM     (No. 9544411)

Seems to me that we at one point in history actually amended the Constitution to outlaw alcohol. That was a bad idea that got repealed. Why not this one?

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Reply 17 - Posted by: lasvegaslou, 10/1/2013 8:50:00 AM     (No. 9544428)

Harry Reid, said, talking about the Continuing Resolution proposal sent up by the House, "This time the House has attached a poison pill that would punish 16,000 congressional staff.”

So, Harry Reid thinks that making Congress and their minions live under the same law that the rest of us have to live under is punishment, huh?

Well, he´s right, and Harry, one way or the other, if I have to live under it, the people who hung it around my neck are going to live under it also.




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Reply 18 - Posted by: civilservant, 10/1/2013 9:03:38 AM     (No. 9544447)

"It´s the law of the land".....

Weird, isn´t it that the Left are using the EXACT SAME argument to support Obamacare as they used to defend slavery.



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Reply 19 - Posted by: chicodon, 10/1/2013 9:31:21 AM     (No. 9544494)

"delay the individual mandate for a year" should be "delay the individual mandate TAX for a year"

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Reply 20 - Posted by: grayjay, 10/1/2013 10:12:12 AM     (No. 9544551)

Just tried to access healthcare.gov, and got the message "The system is down at the moment." Great start!

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Reply 21 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 10/1/2013 10:25:03 AM     (No. 9544575)

I expect Boehner and the GOP to cave by weeks end. Afterwards, it`ll be business as usual.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: little guy, 10/1/2013 10:34:27 AM     (No. 9544594)

Amazing how the left wraps itself in a mantra that serves its own purposes, isn´t it? It´s the law so IT MUST BE OBEYED! Says who? The people make the laws and the people can change them when the feel they are unfair, unjust, costs too much, is outlandish or whatever.

Would our African white president say that segregation, separate but equal, the Dred Scott decision, slavery itself, non-voting for women, prohibition, etc. which were all LAWS of the land should not have been resisted by those who opposed them? 200 years ago he wouldn´t have been allowed to say a word let alone even vote and now he´s president. How´d that happen if the laws didn´t change through action by the people?

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Stryker714, 10/1/2013 10:38:29 AM     (No. 9544604)

It is laughable how stuck the democrats are stuck on the modus of Rules for Radicals. Do they have a bronze cover in a gold frame at the DNC headquarters? They use the "air of inevitability" on ACA and the "make the enemy live up to their own rule book" by trumpeting "well we won the 2012 election" and "well the supreme Court ruled for"(fair and square-ha ha ha ha). Well we US citizens don´t buy their con artist tactics. They cheated out the wazoo in the 2012 election and did something absolutely weird re John Roberts, so they can all go fly a kite. The democrats moaning and complaining re the shutdown is such entertainment. The different dramatic oratories by the different dem rats like Mary Landrieu and Nancy Pelosi is LMFAO material. Keep it up -we love laughing at you!

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Reply 24 - Posted by: odinsacolyte, 10/1/2013 10:46:51 AM     (No. 9544626)

It is nothing if it is ignored.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: italianlooks, 10/1/2013 11:35:45 AM     (No. 9544717)

AHC law has been nullified! When the major extended care provision was eliminated, deferrals granted, exemptions granted and on and on. This nullified the law because it is not implemented according to how the law was written. Without Congress rewriting or amending the law it cannot stand. Although states cannot nullify a law it falls from it´s own weight without enforcing the law as written. This law is dead and those who have nullified it should be prosecuted for misfeasance and malfeasance of the public trust!

There never was a signing statement at the time Pres Obama signed the law! It is done! Stand up America

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Reply 26 - Posted by: AnnaS, 10/1/2013 12:49:35 PM     (No. 9544842)

What difference does anything make? Obama is incredibly rude to and unwilling to negotiate with his opponents and his poll numbers are the best ever (see Rasmussen). It does not matter what Republicans do, they are trashed and vilified and hated in the media (which controls the narrative). The red state Democrats are not the least bit worried, they support loudly the president and Obamacare and are not the least concerned about re-election. I give up. There is no hope and no changing things. I suppose we just live on the best we can in the heartland.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Rafter, 10/1/2013 1:18:44 PM     (No. 9544888)

Dirty Harry will lose his majority next election... the 2014 midterms.

And this shutdown is going to cost him.
Hence his massive tantrum.
Get lost, Harry!

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Reply 28 - Posted by: peterfleming, 10/1/2013 1:28:38 PM     (No. 9544911)

Obamacide (not suicide) was found, by the Supremacist Court Offender Roberts, to be a tax law. Doesn´t that mean it can be repealed, changed, eliminated in many ways?
It is no more the law of the land, than was alcohol prohibition and hundreds of unfair
unjust tax laws. The House controls all spending and the House can refuse to spend anything it decides to refuse. So, what´s the problem? As long as the House is not secretly filled with Communists, like the Senate is publically filled with Communist driven little dictators, there is hope.

And deferring payment to an army of useless
non (really non) essential over paid bureaucrats is an absolutely meaningless "shutdown".

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Reply 29 - Posted by: congaree53, 10/1/2013 1:31:15 PM     (No. 9544920)

26 is right:
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 52% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Obama´s job performance. Forty-seven percent (47%) disapprove. The president’s job approval ratings CONTINUE to IMPROVE and now mark his best showing since mid-April.



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Reply 30 - Posted by: Hazymac, 10/1/2013 2:21:52 PM     (No. 9544994)

Remember when then Ways and Means chairman Dan Rostenkowski was beset upon and chased by seniors who took strong exception to the Democrats´ "Catastrophic Healthcare" legislation, passed in 1989, which sharply increased their medical insurance premiums. Quoth Rostenkowski: "I don´t think they understand, y´know, what the government´s trying to do for them." (Video below)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qre7DzEtxyc

Pretty soon even Obama´s sip-sips are going to realize that what the government is trying to do to them is far more important than what it´s trying to do for them. Hugh Hewitt described Obamacare as a "thousand car pile up." It´s more like a two hundred million car pile up.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 10/1/2013 5:16:14 PM     (No. 9545237)

As I said yesterday, Justice Roberts said it´s a tax, and Congress can enact tax laws. It´s going to be administered by the IRS.

There is an entire committee in Congress charged with oversight of our tax laws. Congress changes them all the time in order to reward cronies.

Well, the majority of Americans don´t like this tax law. We said it before they passed this law. We want them to repeal this law. Since it´s a tax, it can be repealed.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: LAW428, 10/1/2013 5:54:46 PM     (No. 9545294)

Slavery and Prohibition were once "the law," too. This power grab by the left is NOT constitutional. I don´t give a d**n what the SC says!

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Dodge Boy, 10/1/2013 6:50:51 PM     (No. 9545347)

But, I am sure that the sheep will do what they are told by CNN, MSNBC, NPR, alphabet networks, et al. and Obie´s WH propaganda team. Obie´s boyhood trainers would have been pleased.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: Lawsy0, 10/1/2013 8:11:38 PM     (No. 9545448)

Slavery was the Law of the Land. Prohibition was the Law of the Land. Separate-but-Equal was the Law of the Land. Other Law of the Land decisions; Blacks were given the vote upon 15th Amendment. Women were given the vote upon 19th Amendement.

Rights and privileges were taken away from American citizens by an overarching health tax approved by Chief Justice John Roberts. Like First Crook Clinton crowed, ´´Stoke of the pen; law of the land. Cool.´´


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Reply 35 - Posted by: angelesgift, 10/1/2013 8:40:34 PM     (No. 9545485)

You would think that young, healthy people being gouged to subsidize premiums for older, sick people would wake them up. Probably not. They´ll keep voting Dem.

You would think that workers being gouged to pay for parasites would wake them up. Probably not. They´ll keep voting Dem.

Maybe being screwed over is the new normal for decent, hard-working people and they not only won´t fight it, they expect it.

If we subsidized medical and nursing schools; agreed to pay sales taxes for medical clinics (like fire stations); put reins on lawyers, and caps on lawsuits, maybe we´d have a decent and affordable healthcare system.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: tonyl, 10/1/2013 8:53:33 PM     (No. 9545491)

Yes it´s the law of the land but so wasn´t Slavery and Prohibition. If pelosi ever said "just sign this contract and read it later" in the private sector, she would have been kicked out of her customer´s office and fired by her employer.

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A group of seven multiracial Washington and Lee University (W&L) students are demanding the school remove all Confederate flags from campus and "acknowledge" General Robert E. Lee´s "dishonorable side." According to the Roanoke Times, "seven multiracial students, calling themselves ´The Committee,´" have also demanded the school "acknowledge and apologize for participating in chattel slavery." They want recognition of "Martin Luther King Jr. Day on the undergraduate campus" and an end to "neo-Confederates" marching across campus "to the Lee Chapel on Lee-Jackson Day." The students say they will "engage in civil disobedience" if their demands are not met by September 1st. They added: "The

Living in the New York Times World
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American Thinker, by J. Paul Masko    Original Article
Posted By: magnante- 4/19/2014 7:48:36 AM     Post Reply
I began reading the entirety of the first section of the New York Times at nine years old, and continued that practice, more or less, for decades.(snip) ...the power of reverence, intrinsic to what I call the “cascade” of The Times: the near avalanche-like flow and distribution of information through electronic and print networks: through like-minded network newscasts, magazines, local newspaper s, blogs, daytime talk TV, late-night entertainment, statements at media award ceremonies, the celebrity Twitterverse, etc. The cascade rolls through Saturday Night Live, Jon Stewart, The New Yorker, the mouths of third-grade teachers, Elmo, Madonna and Susan Sarandon …through

´America´s royal baby´: How Chelsea´s first
child could give Hillary Clinton a boost in
the polls if she runs for president in 2016

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Daily Mail (U.K.), by Jessica Jerreat    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/19/2014 7:12:10 PM     Post Reply
For Hillary Clinton, having her own baby grandchild to kiss on the campaign trail, could be one of the biggest boosts to her possible presidential election campaign. Although the former Secretary of State and First Lady has not said if she will run in 2016, the arrival of her first grandchild will soften her image, analysts have said. While Chelsea only revealed her pregnancy on Thursday, supporters of her mother have already started cooing over a possible baby in the White House. With the Clintons having a near-royal status in the U.S., the announcement of a new arrival due this fall has sent

In a Hole, Golf Considers
Digging a Wider One

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New York Times, by Bill Pennington    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/19/2014 10:48:33 AM     Post Reply
GREENSBORO, Ga. — Golf holes the size of pizzas. Soccer balls on the back nine. A mulligan on every hole. These are some of the measures — some would say gimmicks — that golf courses across the country have experimented with to stop people from quitting the game. Golf has always reveled in its standards and rich tradition. But increasingly a victim of its own image and hidebound ways, golf has lost five million players in the last decade, according to the National Golf Foundation, with 20 percent of the existing 25 million golfers apt to quit in the next few years. People under 35 have especially spurned the game, saying it takes too

Obama: ´For me, Easter is a story of hope,
a belief in a better day to come´

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Investor´s Business Daily, by Andrew Malcolm    Original Article
Posted By: SurferLad- 4/19/2014 9:16:36 AM     Post Reply
Hi, everybody. For millions of Americans, this time of year holds great meaning. Earlier this week, we hosted a Passover Seder at the White House, and joined Jewish families around the world in their re-tellings of the story of the Exodus and the victory of faith over oppression. And this Sunday, Michelle, Malia, Sasha, and I will join our fellow Christians around the world in celebrating the Resurrection of Christ, the salvation he offered the world, and the hope that comes with the Easter season. These holy days have their roots in miracles that took place long ago. And yet, they still inspire us, guide us, and strengthen us today. They remind us of our

Harry Reid calls dissident Nevada ranchers
´domestic terrorists´ following show of
force against the federal government

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Daily Mail [UK], by David Martosko    Original Article
Posted By: Attercliffe- 4/19/2014 9:29:17 AM     Post Reply
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Thursday that a family of dissident ranchers and their supporters in his home state of Nevada are ´domestic terrorists,´ citing this week´s standoff with the federal government´s Bureau of Land Management. Cliven Bundy has refused to pay grazing fees for land where his hundreds of cattle roam every day. The land is owned by the federal government, which says he owes more than $1 million. Bundy, however, insists that since his family has been using the land since the 1870s, Uncle Sam can´t collect the grazing fees. A tense standoff developed this week after

Pelosi assists in Holy Week
foot-washing ritual

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San Francisco Chronicle, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: Harlowe- 4/18/2014 11:46:54 AM     Post Reply
To "honor the dignity and work of immigrants," Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi helps Bishop Marc Andrus wash the feet of two children Thursday at Saint John the Evangelist Episcopal Church in San Francisco. Pelosi also used the occasion to talk about passing HR15 - bipartisan immigration legislation that her office says would "reduce the deficit by nearly $1 trillion, secure our borders, unite our families, protect our workers and provide an earned pathway to citizenship." The Democratic leader´s ceremony coincides with Pope Francis´ similar ceremony in Rome to mark Holy Week.

Ted Cruz, Invoking Reagan,
Angers GOP Colleagues
but Wins Fans Elsewhere

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Wall Street Journal, by Monica Langley    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/19/2014 8:09:17 AM     Post Reply
WASHINGTON--Rushing to an afternoon vote last month, Sen. Ted Cruz hopped the underground tram to the U.S. Capitol from his office across the street. The Texan planted his black ostrich cowboy boots in the middle of the small subway car without getting so much as a nod from the other senators--Republican or Democrat--amiably chatting or huddled in their seats. Mr. Cruz finds himself standing alone a lot these days. His response to the cold shoulders: "The establishment despised Ronald Reagan" before he became president, "but the people loved him." For the 43-year-old Republican, the Reagan name illuminates his political life´s

Deadbeat on the Range
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New York Times, by Timothy Eagan    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 3:52:52 PM     Post Reply
Imagine a vendor on the National Mall, selling burgers and dogs, who hasn’t paid his rent in 20 years. He refuses to recognize his landlord, the National Park Service, as a legitimate authority. Every court has ruled against him, and fines have piled up. What’s more, the effluents from his food cart are having a detrimental effect on the spring grass in the capital. Would an armed posse come to his defense, aiming their guns at the park police? Would the lawbreaker get prime airtime on Fox News, breathless updates in the Drudge Report, a sympathetic ear from Tea Party Republicans?


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