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Not ONE word of official account of raid
that killed Bin Laden is true, claims
award-winning journalist Seymour Hersh

Daily Mail (UK), by Marie-Louise Olson

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Posted By:pineledger, 9/28/2013 1:47:03 PM

A Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist says that the official account of the raid which killed Osama Bin Laden in 2011 is ‘one big lie’. Seymour Hersh, 76, said that ‘not one word’ of the Obama administration’s narrative on what happened is true. (Snip)Hersh said the American press spends ‘so much more time carrying water for Obama than I ever thought they would’. In his opinion, the solution would be to shut down news networks like NBC and ABC and fire 90 per cent of mainstream editors and replace them with ‘real’ journalists who are not afraid to speak truth to power. ‘The

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Reply 1 - Posted by: pineledger, 9/28/2013 1:48:04 PM     (No. 9541189)

Sorry, Igor, I´m out of practice.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: dittohead, 9/28/2013 2:00:03 PM     (No. 9541198)

Hersh better watch out for Fort Marcy Park.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: jkb, 9/28/2013 2:02:37 PM     (No. 9541201)

Alright, Mr. Hersch. Then what DID happen?

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Country Boy, 9/28/2013 2:19:32 PM     (No. 9541215)

I always believed bin Laden died years ago. Or was the guy really some kind of ´superman´ dragging a dialysis machine from cave to cave.

The Dems in Washington think the front porch of the White House is a Hollywood set. And we´re a bunch of country bumpkins.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Spidey, 9/28/2013 2:37:18 PM     (No. 9541238)

Hard to believe a hard left nut like Hersh would come out of no where and say what we already think and know. I never believed the whole BinLaden narrative,especialy the story about Obama being pulled off the golf course.Even crazier that he could have been playing spades.The photo op pic could also been a fake.Obama called off at least 3 other raids,so why would be be vacant if he pulled the trigger on the 4th.The burial at sea was also shady.

The account of this raid could have also led to the death of the Seals on that one helicopter and those families will never know the truth.

If most peple in this country don´t know about Obamacare´s launch date,you have to believe they´re completely ignorant on a whole range of tihngs and it explains Obama´s approval numbers,despite being the worst president in history.

The thing is if Hersh is right about this,then what really happened. Trying to find an honest editor is also nearly impossible but thanks for the suggestion.The left is actually trying to get rid of right wing media outlets.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: belwhatter, 9/28/2013 2:43:22 PM     (No. 9541244)

Poster above asks what really did happen? - this story stank from the outset but the newshounds sat on their silent thumbs as usual or were paid/threatened into silence - whatever. There is so much government deception practiced to dupe the gullible public - we are slowly catching up and Seymour Hersh´s article is a step in the right direction - I want to know why all those wonderful Navy Seals were brought down in that old tin can helicopter too. A lot of people believe that Bin Laden, if he ever did exist, died years ago.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: sw penn, 9/28/2013 2:50:03 PM     (No. 9541252)

This is probably a gross exaggeration.

There is every reason to believe that
"the" is true, and
"and" is true.

I´m still a little iffy on
what the definition of "is" is.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: MattMusson, 9/28/2013 2:51:30 PM     (No. 9541256)

I can believe it took Obama 4 months to decide to go after Osama. I can believe that he was playing golf during the mission. I can believe he popped into the situation room at the last minute - perfectly willing to blame the military if things went wrong.

What´s not to believe?

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Reply 9 - Posted by: busterman, 9/28/2013 2:55:16 PM     (No. 9541262)

Interesting assessment. A question for Ldotters: Poster #4 mentions the dialysis machine. I don´t recall any of the after action reports that were published mentioning a dialysis machine was found in the complex at Abbottabad. Do any of you?

#5 speaks to the death of the SEALs in Afghanistan. What if they were the one´s who wouldn´t keep quiet?

Just asking.....

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Reply 10 - Posted by: FlatCityGirl, 9/28/2013 3:00:41 PM     (No. 9541269)

At my age, I don´t expect to live long enough to see an honest historian write the true story of 0b@$tard and his Marxists Minions, the lies and deceptions, how voter fraud put him in office, name the members of the complicit media who covered up and lied for him, even the truth about the birthplace of the Mulatto Muslim. It will happen. Hopefully it will happen in the lifetimes of my grandchildren. I expect the release of the Book of Truth will be in at least four volumes.

I would love to think that someday when my grandchildren are sitting around the Thanksgiving table after a big meal, one of them will say, "Every word Grammy spoke about that Halfrican who did so much damage to the nation was right. Grammy knew what she was talking about."

I hope my grandchildren live long enough to see 0b@$tard´s grave turned into a public toilet. Perhaps make a contribution.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: pineledger, 9/28/2013 3:04:03 PM     (No. 9541271)

8, they SAY it took him 4 months of dithering to decide to pull the trigger. That may well be simply re-written/retrospective history.

Why should we believe a single solitary word out of this White House?

I don´t.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: southron, 9/28/2013 3:30:33 PM     (No. 9541288)

You would have to be incredibly naive to expect media to say anything critical of Obama - skin color rules their journalistic decisions.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: avikingman, 9/28/2013 4:05:11 PM     (No. 9541317)

The Liar Administration.

The truth will out, but it will take years.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Rafter, 9/28/2013 4:28:23 PM     (No. 9541343)

In a choice between O-Bomber and Seymour Hersh, obviously Hersh has more credibility.

Interesting factoids include the idea bin Laden had already been dead for years, and,
as noted above, if he lived there, where was any dialysis machine, indeed?

Further, reportedly the shooting victim was younger and healthier looking than
bin Laden could have been, and was perhaps his son.

Hersh says not one of the neighbors knew or suspected in any way that bin Laden
was living there, and no one ever saw him.

Then there´s the burial at sea, the refusal to display any death photos of remains,
and the sudden deaths of multiple Navy SEALs who maybe knew too much about it.

Hersh makes more sense than NO-Bomber ever has on any topic, including this.
I´m willing to find out much much more.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: killerbee, 9/28/2013 4:32:50 PM     (No. 9541347)

I always thought Bin Ladin died at Tora Bora and I still think that.

And I also think that SEAL Team 6 was set up shortly thereafter as a payment from the admin. to keep the Al Queda faithful from attacking.

Maybe I sound like a tin foil hatter, but after Benghazi and Fast and Furious, I put nothing past this admin.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: franq, 9/28/2013 4:48:52 PM     (No. 9541368)

I think the truth is worse than we all could imagine.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: samnj, 9/28/2013 4:53:39 PM     (No. 9541376)

Isn´t Hersh a Hillary acolyte?

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Reply 18 - Posted by: brianod1, 9/28/2013 4:58:24 PM     (No. 9541382)

What Hersh says about the press is demonstrably true - the rest is nonsense.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Hazymac, 9/28/2013 5:26:35 PM     (No. 9541408)

Sy Hersh is a professional iconoclast, and I don´t really know whether to trust him in any particular instance. His The Dark Side of Camelot (1997) ripped the carefully constructed facade off JFK and RFK, whose real lives were quite at variance with the legend. In that instance, Hersh´s reporting seemed to be genuine.

I, too, suspected that Usama Bin Laden had eaten a thermobaric bomb at Tora Bora in about December 2001, and that the fuzzy videos and scratchy cassette tapes of his messages were as real as Elvis´s sighting last night at the doughnut racks at the 7-Eleven in Tunica, Mississippi. But the SEALs (quite properly) won´t utter a word about what they did or didn´t do at Abbottabad. Obama has zero credibility about anything. If he told me that the sun would rise in the east tomorrow morning, I´d have to see it for myself.

Maybe someday we´ll know for sure whether Bin Laden went to hell in 2001 or in 2011. And maybe not.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: uno_thatguy, 9/28/2013 6:01:00 PM     (No. 9541441)

I´ve never believed it. A DNA test takes several days. The Seals had a kit that confirmed his DNA in minutes. Pretty sophisticated especially when it takes lab equip, microscopes or spectroscopes/spectrometers, centrifuges, test tubes, lab baths, chemicals and the like and days of cultures.

Seals died because when the heard the story, they shook their heads in wonderment. "We were where?"

It´s all a crock of obama!

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Reply 21 - Posted by: TruthAndJustice, 9/28/2013 8:42:18 PM     (No. 9541574)

The entire BinLaden story was kabuki..the info that Obama turned down the Miltary repeatedly is to add believability

*,one of the Seals book "No Easy Day" he reveals their surprise at his physically fit body and dark hair for a man supposedly on kidney dialysis for more than 10 years

*first Seal into the house put the kill shot directly into Bin Laden´s (?) face making his face unrecognisable to the other Seals

*kidney dialysis for over 20 years but still producing children?

*Know someone from the ship where the body was dumped..the body was brought on board under false pretenses and quickly dumped overboard

*DNA tests take much longer thus no DNA proof was ever established

*flags couldn´t possibly have existed in all the students rooms for them to have flooded into the streets for the wild celebration...more kabuki for reelection optics

*. Hamzi Bin Laden, the equally tall son of Osama was never seen again after that night...thus he was probably the one killed by the Seals. Immmediately afterward it appeared on certain sites it was Hamzi killed...and was scrubbed from net within an hour.

*Benazir Bhutto, interviewed 10 years previously with David Frost, states she was notified of Bin Laden´s death in Tora Bora...It was well known in Pakstan-- she was assasinated shortly thereafter.

*many of those Seals were killed in Pakstan...another later and the other in Benghazi


* Obama came to meet the Seals afterward...and their names had not been given to him...Obama asked them to sign the gift they had presented to him..the Seals discussed if that would be a danger to them.


* BinLaden was a CIA operative in the beginning, who worked with Zbievnov Brezinski and John Brennan...Barack Obama´s foreign policy advisors.

one or two Seals knew they had not killed BinLaden and the others suspected...just as they found the copter not working and leaving it too-much in tact and behind in Abbotobad suspicious.


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Reply 22 - Posted by: LanieLou, 9/29/2013 1:12:02 AM     (No. 9541718)

Either he was killed in Bora Bora or has been scurried up in the Netherlands, with state of the art dialysis. Either way... the entire event was staged theatre, to give Obama his much needed military "gravitas".

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Fat Elvis, 9/30/2013 5:11:02 PM     (No. 9543713)

There are so many problems with the Bin Ladin raid story. But rather than burying the lead in some media bias screed, I would hope that the Daily Mail would have vetted Hersh more about his claims--details, sources, timelines. He´s obviously not protecting one party over another. He went after Bush/Cheney with a vengeance. I hope his story gains more traction. Looking forward to the book.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Hazymac, 9/30/2013 5:25:49 PM     (No. 9543723)

Hey, #23, how´d you like those doughnuts three nights ago? I knew it was you!

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Angers GOP Colleagues
but Wins Fans Elsewhere

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Wall Street Journal, by Monica Langley    Original Article
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WASHINGTON--Rushing to an afternoon vote last month, Sen. Ted Cruz hopped the underground tram to the U.S. Capitol from his office across the street. The Texan planted his black ostrich cowboy boots in the middle of the small subway car without getting so much as a nod from the other senators--Republican or Democrat--amiably chatting or huddled in their seats. Mr. Cruz finds himself standing alone a lot these days. His response to the cold shoulders: "The establishment despised Ronald Reagan" before he became president, "but the people loved him." For the 43-year-old Republican, the Reagan name illuminates his political life´s

Deadbeat on the Range
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New York Times, by Timothy Eagan    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 3:52:52 PM     Post Reply
Imagine a vendor on the National Mall, selling burgers and dogs, who hasn’t paid his rent in 20 years. He refuses to recognize his landlord, the National Park Service, as a legitimate authority. Every court has ruled against him, and fines have piled up. What’s more, the effluents from his food cart are having a detrimental effect on the spring grass in the capital. Would an armed posse come to his defense, aiming their guns at the park police? Would the lawbreaker get prime airtime on Fox News, breathless updates in the Drudge Report, a sympathetic ear from Tea Party Republicans?

Ann Coulter takes up ‘Mitt
Romney for President’ chant again

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Washington Times, by Cheryl K. Chumley    Original Article
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Conservative columnist Ann Coulter — who used her talk show platform in the last presidential election cycle to campaign hard for former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney — has taken up the mantra once again, calling on Republicans to give the failed White House bidder another shot in 2016. She made the suggestion during a discussion on Sean Hannity’s radio show while speaking of her new book, “Never Trust a Liberal Over 3-Especially a Republican.” Ms. Coulter also addressed the question of Mr. Romney’s shortcomings by saying that his 2012 loss wasn’t entirely his fault. “I think too much blame, not only in this


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