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Exclusive: Rand Paul wants
Chief Justice Roberts, all federal
workers, to enroll in Obamacare

Daily Caller, by Alex Pappas

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Posted By:mitzi, 9/23/2013 8:38:31 AM

Arguing federal workers should not get special treatment, Rand Paul says he does not want taxpayers subsidizing the personal health care plans of any federal employee — including Chief Justice John Roberts — anymore. With some in Congress arguing lawmakers and their staff should not get subsidies to cover their health insurance as President Obama’s health care law goes into effect, the Republican senator from Kentucky told The Daily Caller on Sunday that he’s going to start pushing a constitutional amendment that goes even further. Paul’s proposal — outlawing any special exemptions for government employees — would mean all federal

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Good move ... and long overdue.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Steele81, 9/23/2013 8:46:59 AM     (No. 9532784)

What about All exemptions for anybody and everybody?

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Reply 2 - Posted by: MattMusson, 9/23/2013 9:00:42 AM     (No. 9532797)

Congress is now exempted from all Sexual harassment laws and almost all labor laws.

No way they would ever accept living under their own edicts!

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Reddoggie, 9/23/2013 9:01:58 AM     (No. 9532799)

Gotta love Ron Paul. I am with him on this and grateful he is raising this point. Don´t know how likely this is to happen but its another way of shining light on Obama´s legacy ´transformational´ as it will destroy the very fabric of the country.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: TexasRose, 9/23/2013 9:02:58 AM     (No. 9532800)

The "weird trick", as Clarice Feldmen says, is, if you eliminate all exemptions, suddenly the democrats will acknowledge that it´s a horrible law. If they have to be under this law, they don´t want this law. They will be stripped of their royalty status!!

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Objectivity, 9/23/2013 9:06:16 AM     (No. 9532805)

Amen, Sen. Paul.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Bubbasuncle, 9/23/2013 9:10:34 AM     (No. 9532816)

The RNC will be sending out opposition research on Rand by lunchtime.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: god of irony, 9/23/2013 9:13:48 AM     (No. 9532819)

A side affect will be that govt employees with military service will move to Tricare which will further cripple an already poorly run govt insurance plan.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: NorthernDog, 9/23/2013 9:17:30 AM     (No. 9532823)

Great idea. Ideally each congressional office would be its own little enterprise.
Give them a flat fee and make them pay all expenses out of it - their health care, staffers salaries, travel, mail costs, even Post It notes. Then apply strict labor laws, the threat of IRS audits, etc... Sit back and watch how quickly they collapse under the laws they force onto everyone else.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: starbaby, 9/23/2013 9:26:08 AM     (No. 9532836)

If Obamacare is allowed to stand, with all the exemptions and federal subsidies, we the people should file the mother-of-all class action lawsuits. Time to take matters into our own hands.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 9/23/2013 9:33:44 AM     (No. 9532850)

Liberals, faced with this type of obvious argument, will call it a cheap and cruel trick.

The silver-tongued devils on the right are trying to play that tired, old ´logic card´ again. Don´t buy into it. Trust your emotions.
Free stuff.....get yer free stuff.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: ccyr, 9/23/2013 9:40:10 AM     (No. 9532856)

Why doesn´t some conservative legal group file a lawsuit on the grounds of Equal Protection. We shouldn´t have different classes of citizens written into the law.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Watlines, 9/23/2013 9:40:27 AM     (No. 9532857)

Darn right .. and no subsidies for these grifters.

What do most federal bureaucrats create besides paper, regulations,and laws?

The short-order cook at your local diner placing ham and eggs on the counter produces and contributes more to society each day than these folks do.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: kanphil, 9/23/2013 9:43:01 AM     (No. 9532860)

Amen and Amen!

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Reply 14 - Posted by: pete moss, 9/23/2013 9:44:09 AM     (No. 9532862)

This is the best idea I´ve heard in a long, long time. If Obamacare is good enough for us peons, it´s good enough for John Roberts, Barack Hussein Obama and every other member of the Supreme Court and Congress who voted for it. Who do these people think they are .......... royalty or something? Obviously they do!

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Reply 15 - Posted by: uno_thatguy, 9/23/2013 9:45:18 AM     (No. 9532864)

I say yes!

Each should be forced to sit through a guided three hour session with a "navigator." Under threat of perjury they should be required to answer all questions about their health, finances, traffic tickets, drug use and personal relationships.

IOW: Like the rest of US!

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Reply 16 - Posted by: M2, 9/23/2013 9:45:31 AM     (No. 9532865)

NO exemptions should exist. If this program is so good, why is everyone treating it like punishment and trying to opt out of it?

Paul’s proposal — outlawing any special exemptions for government employees — would mean all federal workers would have to purchase health insurance on the new Obamacare exchanges instead of getting taxpayer-funded subsidies.

One would think it´s a no-brainer.
One would think that because so many people want an exemption, that they know something the proponents of O´Care don´t know.
One would think that because Obama exempted his buddies and cronies and Congressional aides from O´Care, that the plan may actually be harmful.
One would think that if O´Care is so wonderful for America, people would be clamoring to find out how to get it instead of running for the nearest exist.

But one would be wrong. Why is it that despite 80% of Americans (roughly) hating this plan, Obama and the Democrats still want it?

Is this plan really about our health care or is it about controlling every facet of our lives, using the threat of holding back proper treatment as blackmail for votes?

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Not your typical New Yorker, 9/23/2013 9:49:18 AM     (No. 9532872)

No exemptions period!

After all....it´s the law of the land,right?

The law of ALL THE LAND!

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Reply 18 - Posted by: bighambone, 9/23/2013 9:49:53 AM     (No. 9532874)

Eligibility for enrollment in the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program is a portion of the current compensation package paid to federal employees and federal retirees. Essentially the government pays a portion of the cost of the premiums and the employees must pay the remainder.

In addition that plan is considered to be an insurance exchange because the federal employees and the retirees can pick from among a large number of plans at differing costs. Essentially it looks like what Paul is calling for is the elimination of the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program, and that the compensation that the government pays to federal employees and retirees be reduced by the amounts that the government pays into the plan for each of those employees, with the employees then going out and purchasing their future health insurance through an Obamacare exchange at whatever it costs them out of pocket for individual health insurance. That would amount to a big reduction in pay for those millions of federal employees and retirees.

Something tells me that will never fly.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: chance_232, 9/23/2013 9:51:19 AM     (No. 9532878)

Re#11....... Equal Protrection??? Now that´s a hoot! Every law exempts someone. And I have finally learned that even Justice is reserved for the well connected or those that can afford it.

The IRS code is chalk full of exemptions and credits for the chosen. Employeers with fewer than 50 employees are exempt from most labor laws. We are governed by the "ruling class". Sure, you can get into that class, but you wont go far unless yur in bed with the boys and girls at the top. And I have news for ya´ll, its every bit as bad at the local and state levels. The truth is that its always been that way, its just getting worse.

Back in the days when "HONOR" meant something, it wasnt so bad. Its not enough to restore liberty and personal responsiblity. We MUST restore HONOR.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Philipsonh, 9/23/2013 9:51:26 AM     (No. 9532879)

Whereas Obamacare was supposed to help those without adequate health care insurance obtain it, the law is having the opposite effect, which is damaging the health care benefits of those that already have insurance, and of course hurting medical providers in many sectors, especially hospitals, because of the inadequate reimbursement for treatment. As a retired Federal employee already paying for Medicare, and also paying for Health Care via the Federal system, I already pay in excess of $10K annually for our Health Care coverage. I do not wish to change my coverage, but expect that $10K+ will go a long way toward good insurance under any program I may be mandated to use. The problem is that the Providers may no longer be available under the new law, as they cannot make ends meet. The politics of the whole matter is extremely short sighted and does not begin to take all the unexpected side effects into account.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: smcchk, 9/23/2013 9:53:57 AM     (No. 9532884)

Dr. Paul has the fight in him to lead us in ´16.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 9/23/2013 9:57:37 AM     (No. 9532891)

Paul is acting crazy, just like his father. An amendment takes years to get passed, if ever. This will not fly. It would be better to try and get a law passed, that way those in Congress opposed can explain why they think it is a bad idea.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Westie64, 9/23/2013 9:59:48 AM     (No. 9532895)

Sen. Paul is one of the few in Washington who still promotes common sense. Most of the politicians there are highly deluded.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: lasvegaslou, 9/23/2013 9:59:53 AM     (No. 9532896)

You folks had better stop your complaining or our betters (praises be to them) will phase in the "Hunger Games" edict a few years early. You peasants just don´t know when you are well off.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: shalimar, 9/23/2013 10:02:31 AM     (No. 9532903)

Oh please. This is the kind of move you talk about when you have something that is ready for prime time. Obamacare is anything but that. Therefore, the GOP should be trying to save as many people as possible from being forced out of what they have (which most are happy with) and into something that we all know to be a train wreck.

Yes, I´m covered under the Federal Employee Health Benefits Plan as the wife of a retired federal employee. I know that this move would wreak havoc with our retirement situation ... all so Rand Paul, who I have long admired, could feel he was punishing certain individuals such as Justice Roberts. He doesn´t seem to realize that Justice Roberts is a man of means who most likely can buy whatever healthcare he needs with his own funds.

Wrong move, IMO. He should wait until the bugs are out of Obamacare before forcing another 8 million people into it.



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Reply 26 - Posted by: LouD, 9/23/2013 10:13:55 AM     (No. 9532916)

But meanwhile, #25, those of us who stand to lose our present insurance and be forced into something we can´t afford or don´t want should willingly give up what we have for your benefit? No, if we must sink, I´d rather the rest of you go down with us.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Bubbasuncle, 9/23/2013 10:22:44 AM     (No. 9532932)

As a member of the protected class #25 perhaps you are not aware that many of the great unwashed are already being forced into and out of coverage by this law. My premiums went up 75% within a month of the bill being signed. Then my plan was deemed not acceptable under the ridiculously named Affordable Care Act. I agree with #26, we are all equal, and if I have to suffer so should you and everyone else. And another point, regardless of ones means, if things continue the way they are going there will be nowhere to purchase any coverage.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: TarAndFeathers, 9/23/2013 10:23:15 AM     (No. 9532935)

Experience in the unlamented Soviet Union showed that the nomenklatura would never surrender its perquisites - dachas in the countryside, shopping privileges at beryozka stores, opportunities for unlimited graft - until the system that enabled them was disabled. So it is with America´s ruling class, without party distinction.
In this case, "disablement" means the restoration of constitutional governance.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: MirJoy, 9/23/2013 10:23:38 AM     (No. 9532936)

Is there any newspaper that would write an editorial - well just list, that´s enough, of all those who are allowed to be exempted from ObamaCare?

There´s no logic in the policies of our government. If guns are bad, why do we ship them to other countries? If Obama wants to help the middle class, why are his regulations destroying job opportunities for the middle class? If ObamaCare is so great, why doesn´t the President want to be part of it?

I think the Senator´s idea is perfectly logical and makes perfect sense to me.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Bohallx, 9/23/2013 10:35:02 AM     (No. 9532949)

#18 ~ going a bit further, the Constitution prohibits varying the compensation of federal judges, which is why you have Rand Paul doing this ´constitutional amendment´ trick.

He probably just now found out that the 27th amendment worked to cut his FEHB subsidy off at the knees way back right after the 2010 election.

That bad boy now owes the US Gub´mnt at least $75,000 in compensation obtained under false pretenses in the form of an FEHB subsidy in part of 2010, all of 2011, all of 2012, and all of 2013!

Once ObamaKKKare was passed, by the day after the next election, Congressional compensation was REVISED DRAMATICALLY. They had to go to an ´exchange´ ~ a ´state exchange´ ~ whether it existed at the time or not! And whether it existed or not, it didn´t provide the FEHB ´subsidy´ ~ actual ´fringe benefit portion of the compensation package´.

Rand wants to take everybody down with him. Better he submit a Constitutional amendment to require term limits with NO variation in compensation through the term of office. That´d be a good compromise, or, he and the boys could call in John Roberts and talk to him ´bout ruling this whole smelly pile of dung UNCONSTITUTIONAL!

There´s really no way out of making that $75,000 overpayment of Congressional compensation good otherwise!

Now, about USPS employees and retirees (30% of the affected people), they negotiated the deal in good faith. There´s a 5th amendment ´taking´ here so Rand´s amendment will have to deal with the 5th, and maybe the 4th. Not sayin´ Rand is just another ignant Kay-wackian hillbilly, but I doubt he can get it written!



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Reply 31 - Posted by: Bohallx, 9/23/2013 10:40:14 AM     (No. 9532961)

#12 - "What do most federal bureaucrats create besides paper, regulations,and laws?"

You didn´t really ask that question did you.

Just last week the US Gub´mnt murdered a ship designer (weapon´s system platform) who lived near me.

Obama hissef´ turned loose a crazy man with a gub´mnt owned pistol to kill him at the Navy Yard.

Three other people who live not far away from me who worked there in similar work were also murdered in the same way.

So, what was it they produced?

Your safety!

Probably has nothing to do with the topic here, but you did ask the question. There it is.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: coldoc, 9/23/2013 10:41:58 AM     (No. 9532964)

No "tax" relief for justice roberts.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: lil dotty, 9/23/2013 10:55:38 AM     (No. 9532994)

Sen Paul. Way to go. When this monstrosity had worked its way up to the high court the important question was ´What type of health care coverage is given to our SC justices? No where could an answer be found. In this instance, totally stand behind you 110 percent


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Reply 34 - Posted by: fritzilou, 9/23/2013 12:02:50 PM     (No. 9533076)

No exemptions; no Obamacare......

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Reply 35 - Posted by: mickturn, 9/23/2013 12:37:24 PM     (No. 9533146)

Equal Protection implies Equal Application does it not? So why are some people just special?

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Reply 36 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 9/24/2013 12:24:31 AM     (No. 9534029)

We fought long and hard for equality in this country, only to find out some of US are not equal.

If it´s good enough for the taxpayers funding it, it´s good enough for everybody including the first grifters and their kids.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: bighambone, 9/24/2013 12:26:06 AM     (No. 9534033)

If Rand Paul really is after true equality he would be proposing that all employer provided health care insurance, both public and private sector, be declared illegal and that the entire population of the USA must purchase their health care insurance through the Obamacare State Exchanges.

Before doing that Paul should figure out the increased cost to the US Government in carrying that out, along with the obvious fact that the next step would be a true government run national health insurance situation that he definitely would not like.

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On Saturday, I wrote about the standoff at Bundy Ranch. That post drew a remarkable amount of traffic, even though, as I wrote then, I had not quite decided what to make of the story. Since then, I have continued to study the facts and have drawn some conclusions. Here they are. First, it must be admitted that legally, Bundy doesn’t have a leg to stand on. The Bureau of Land Management has been charging him grazing fees since the early 1990s, which he has refused to pay. Further, BLM has issued orders limiting the area on which Bundy’s cows can

Biden Tells Boston Bombing
Survivors, ´It Was Worth It´ (Video)

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Breitbart´s Instablog, by Debra Heine    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/15/2014 9:28:18 PM     Post Reply
Less than a minute into his speech at the Boston marathon bombing memorial on Tuesday, Vice President Joe Biden went tragically off script and told the crowd of Boston bombing survivors that "it was worth it." After expressing how impressed he was with the tribute, he said somberly, "let me say to those ´quote survivors,´ my God, you have survived and you have soared. It was worth it. I mean this sincerely - just to hear each of you speak. You´re truly, truly inspiring." The audience sat in stunned silence until Biden declared, "I´ve never heard anything so beautiful than

Which Actor Portrays The
Best James Bond?

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American Spectator, by Jonah Goldberg and Taki Theodoracopulos    Original Article
Posted By: Drive- 4/16/2014 11:20:22 AM     Post Reply
Look, everyone loves Sean Connery, particularly Sean Connery. That’s why he plays Sean Connery in every movie he’s in. People love that Scottish brogue so much, they don’t mind that he has it when he plays Juan Sánchez Villa-Lobos Ramírez, an immortal Spaniard in Highlander. The guy even won an Oscar for playing an Irish cop with a Scottish accent. Talk about sexist double standards: Meryl Streep has to master foreign dialects to get her golden statuettes. Connery just has to show up on time. In economics you devalue a currency by printing too much of it. In film you

Casual marijuana use linked with
brain abnormalities, study finds

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Fox News, by Loren Grush    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/15/2014 6:12:53 PM     Post Reply
Casual marijuana use may come with some not-so-casual side effects. For the first time ever, researchers at Northwestern University have analyzed the relationship between casual use of marijuana and brain changes – and found that young adults who used cannabis just once or twice a week showed significant abnormalities in two important brain structures. The study’s findings, to be published Wednesday in the Journal of Neuroscience, are similar to those of past research linking chronic, long-term marijuana use with mental illness and changes in brain development. Dr. Hans Breiter, co-senior study author, said he was inspired to look at the effects of casual

White babies just 15 months old show racial
bias when picking playmates, study found

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Daily Mail (U.K.), by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/15/2014 10:23:35 PM     Post Reply
Toddlers show racial bias when picking playmates, a study reveals. They also take account of how fairly others behave. Researchers tested the reaction of white 15-month-olds as toys were distributed. Two white adults divided the toys, one equally and the other unequally. Seventy per cent of the toddlers chose to play with the researcher who distributed the toys fairly. But in a second test, when one researcher favoured a white recipient over an Asian one, they picked the ‘fair’ researcher less often, the journal Frontiers in Psychology reports. And the babies are more likely to help those who share the same ethnicity, which is known as

Atlanta Braves flooded with Hank
Aaron hate mail: He’s a ‘s*****g’

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Washington Times (D.C.), by Cheryl K. Chumley    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/15/2014 3:23:19 PM     Post Reply
Hank Aaron’s recent comments about the need for America to realize that racism is still very much alive and thriving — only now due to those who wear “neckties and starched shirts” rather than KKK hoods — has sparked an angry backlash and many fans are turning the tables, calling the baseball legend himself a racist. “Hank Aaron is a s*****g piece of [expletive] [racial slur],” one man said in an email to the Atlanta Braves’ front office, one of the teams Mr. Aaron used to play for, CBS News reported. “My old man instilled in my mind from a

White is not right: Campus admins ask
for help weeding out white people

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Daily Caller, by Robby Soave    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/15/2014 7:47:18 PM     Post Reply
Western Washington University sent a questionnaire to students asking them for advice on how the administration could succeed at making sure that in future years, “we are not as white as we are today.” The question notes that WWU’s racial make up does not perfectly reflect the nation at large, and asks students to consider strategies that other universities have used to focus on skin color as the paramount indicator of a student-applicant’s worth. The president of WWU has stated that his explicit goal is to reduce the white population on campus, according to Campus Reform. “I’ve said before and I’ll say it

If a nuclear bomb exploded in downtown
Washington, what should you do?

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The Week, by Marc Ambinder    Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly- 4/15/2014 4:51:46 AM     Post Reply
Funny question in the headline, yes? But since President Obama worries more about the threat of terrorists´ improvised nuclear device going off in a major American city than anything Russia can throw at us, I was wondering if the government had deigned to share with us citizens any tips for, you know, surviving something their own intelligence points to as the likeliest unlikely Black Swan event. Well, no. And yes. No — very few people in Washington, D.C., who work for the government have any idea what they would do if a 10-kiloton nuclear device exploded at the intersection of 16th and K

Obama taps gay bishop to wrap Easter
Prayer Breakfast with invocation

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Washington Times, by Cheryl K. Chumley    Original Article
Posted By: jackson- 4/15/2014 9:25:28 AM     Post Reply
When President Obama needed a preacher to fulfill the closing prayer duties at the annual White House Easter Prayer Breakfast, he turned to none other than the Episcopal Church’s first openly gay bishop — who said he was as shocked as anyone at the appointment. The Right Rev. Gene Robinson said in a tweet, accompanied by a photo of Mr. Obama behind a podium at the event: “POTUS ‘preaches’ at the Easter prayer breakfast. Then, out of the blue, asks ME to close with prayer. OMG!” Newsmax said he also emphasized that the words he chose to close the breakfast

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National Review Online, by Victor Davis Hanson    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/15/2014 10:08:10 PM     Post Reply
How do you ensure that you won’t be ostracized, denounced, or fired if you are a media celebrity, captain of industry, or high public official? For some, sexist banter is certainly no problem. Stand-up comedian Bill Maher called Sarah Palin a c–t and a tw-t, but suffered no ill consequences. David Letterman joked on air that Sarah Palin’s 14-year-old daughter had had sex with Alex Rodriguez during a New York Yankees game. There was no downside to that either. President Obama tosses around “sweetie” as he wishes. No problem with that. No one believes Barack could be condescending to women.


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