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What Your Neighborhood List-Serv Tells You
About The Demise of America

The Ferderalist, by Mollie Ziegler Hemingway

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Posted By:Deborah Grannet, 9/20/2013 5:17:50 PM

I read the subject line for the latest message on my neighborhood listserv with interest: “Kids Cutting Grass?” A few years ago I’d used a post with a similar headline to find someone to do some yard work. My husband and I had hired a neighborhood kid whose Dad had died the year prior after a long illness. Maybe 13 years old, he’d taken to doing yard work to raise much-needed money and have something to do.

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I remember with distinct clarity the moment my 9-year-old niece (now 20) noted, somewhat sadly, that ´you had a lot more freedom when you were a kid, didn´t you, Aunt Becky? ´ I marveled at her perceptiveness, but mourned for her narrowed existence.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Question_Assumptions, 9/20/2013 5:26:33 PM     (No. 9529634)

Oh, it gets even worse. It´s actually illegal in New Jersey to not only employ a child under 16 to use a power mower to but even permit them to work "in, about, or in connection with" a power mower. I´m sure there is a lawsuit against metal shop and wood shop waiting to happen in here somewhere, too. From New Jersey State employment laws, Subchapter 3, "OCCUPATIONS PROHIBITED TO MINORS UNDER 16 YEARS OF AGE":

12:58-3.2 Power driven machinery

(a) Minors under 16 years of age shall not be employed, permitted or suffered to work in, about, or in connection with power-driven machinery.

(b) "Power driven machinery" shall include:
Power tools, including but not limited to, power lawn mowers, power woodworking and metal working tools.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 9/20/2013 5:37:00 PM     (No. 9529651)

Be sure the homeowners who hires the little tyke`s to mow their lawns are withholding social security and medicare taxes too!!!

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Reply 3 - Posted by: bobn.t, 9/20/2013 5:46:08 PM     (No. 9529664)

Big gov´t is in every aspect of our lives.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: richwill, 9/20/2013 5:47:36 PM     (No. 9529666)

The way I grew up and was allowed to do things would give the nannystater´s a heart attack.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: SteelTurman, 9/20/2013 5:51:01 PM     (No. 9529671)

Must read!

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Coy860, 9/20/2013 5:54:18 PM     (No. 9529678)

My high school taught woodworking and mechanics, with power tools.
Boys drove their pickups to school with their rifles in a rack, so they could go hunting right after school.
The girls ate their lunch in my car and had a smoke before the bell rang for next class.
It was called FREEDOM.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Balogreene, 9/20/2013 5:58:18 PM     (No. 9529686)

It was so much fun in the 50´s and 60´s. I hear even into the 80´s. We played outside, out front, out back, down the street, a mile away. As long as we told mom where we were headed, it was okay. In my neighborhood, it was uncool to ride bikes, we walked everywhere, a couple miles or more, didn´t matter if there was a reason to go there. Mom was glad to have a quiet house for coffee latches, cleaning, cooking, etc.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: maggie2u, 9/20/2013 6:12:42 PM     (No. 9529709)

In the 50´s we lived in a what was then a fairly small town, Vancouver Wash. My brother was 10 and I was 8 and we picked strawberries for money. My kids washed cars for money to go swimming or buy fireworks.
I don´t think my grandkids do anything but babysit for money. Not that they wouldn´t but there is just no opportunity for them anymore as young teen-agers.
An aside, last year while playing at a park, my three year old granddaughter fell from some climbing equipment and broke her collar bone. At the emergency room, her parents were more traumatized than she was. This child has been a climber since she could walk and to her parents credit they have let her do it. I sometimes, sort of hold my breath because she does climb high on some things, but I bite my tongue and don´t say anything.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: busterman, 9/20/2013 6:23:22 PM     (No. 9529718)

Let´s see....I started mowing my parent´s yard when I was nine, with a push mower.

By ten I was using a riding lawn mower.

I also was responsible for burning our trash. Two quick highlights of burning trash:

- Mom´s used aerosol hairspray cans turned into mortars

- Possum in the burn barrel -- I won´t tell you how that one was resolved

I sat on the front porch shucking corn looking for grub worms and once found, I´d place them into an old styrofoam bucket I´d found -- I also snapped beans.

I never wore a bike helmet and would take off with rod/reel and the aforementioned bucket on my bike and meet up with a friend. We´d ride along the frontage road of a major Texas Interstate until we found a small pond in some rancher´s field. We´d spend the rest of the day fishing. Parents never even knew where I was and I certainly didn´t have a cell phone.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: bgarrett, 9/20/2013 7:42:35 PM     (No. 9529812)

What is a ´neighborhood list serv´? I googled but nothing

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Reply 11 - Posted by: JoElla Bee, 9/20/2013 7:59:18 PM     (No. 9529824)

Excellent read. Good on you, Mollie Ziegler Hemingway, for posting common sense on your List-Serv site, and especially for writing this wonderful piece for all of us to enjoy. I couldn´t agree more.

Where is the common sense in assuming that all kids of a certain age have the same level of maturity, ability, etc., to accomplish the same tasks? Why should some be held back and denied opportunities because someone else in the age group isn´t capable of doing the same things as others for whatever reason?
(Those are rhetorical questions, and most of us know the answers.)

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Reply 12 - Posted by: mackrand, 9/20/2013 8:37:01 PM     (No. 9529873)

Funny but in ´50 I was too small to use a pitchfork to put those thirty pound forkfuls of hay up on the wagon so I drove the tractor. I was just large enough to push the clutch down on that old McCormack/Deering dual fuel monster. One day my foot slipped off the clutch and just about knocked my cousin off the hay stack. Fun and games. I survived, all my cousins survived although they are old timers now and in some cases are still going strong.

Now they tell us that it was dangerous? Way too much time on their hands.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: tomanderson61, 9/20/2013 8:43:49 PM     (No. 9529879)

I collect cars. One includes a Corvair pickup. I have had more than one person claim I was "irresponsible" taking my 9 or 19 year old sons on rides in the truck, due to the fact that it only has lap belts and the complain about their belief that it is an "unsafe old car".

I always tell them, I will take my kids on rides in the very cars I grew up with. They love it, and so do I--if you don´t like it, go stick your own kid´s head in front of an airbag when it goes off and let me know how that worked out.



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Reply 14 - Posted by: Deborah Grannet, 9/21/2013 12:45:15 AM     (No. 9530017)

#10, a listserve is basically just a group e-mail, so that when you send an e-mail, it goes to everyone on the list.

Excuse the double post, but I can´t resist recounting this true story: a few years back, a suburban city near Cincinnati put up a bronze statue of a father and his daughter both riding bicycles.

And, would you believe it, big controversy erupted because the two weren´t wearing bicycle helmets. (I kid you not.)

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