After a week or so of political whiplash, the country heard directly from President Obama as he tried to explain his policy. The speech was exceptionally revealing in the logical disconnect that plagues his policy: Chemical weapons use is beyond the pale and different than any weapon. We cannot let it go on. We have a national interest in acting. But I would ask Congress to hold off on voting for me to do anything. We’ll consider a deal to have Assad turn over his weapons. But remain in power. Several other disturbing inconsistencies were noteworthy. First, he talked about
Man asking Congress to hold off voting for him to do anything is risky. I don´t think that´s going to be a problem. This leaves to door open to blame Congress for not acting quickly when things go from bad to really bad.
Two things to consider - 1- Now that Chemical Weapons are routinely acknowledged by Obama and everyone else on the Left to be WMD , and were used by Saddam Hussein against Syria and his own people, how does the Bush-Bashing argument hold up? - 2 - former Sec. of Defense Leon Panetta acknowledged not too long ago that The U.S. lost track of the whereabouts of Syria´s Chemical Weapons stockpile and could not rule out the possibility that Terrorists had access to them
After five years of pure bull, why should anyone believe anything this person says. Shades of Third Reich propagandist Joseph Goebbels. Everything Obama says or does is political and unbelievable.
Obama hasn´t proven yet that Syria is responsible for gassing anyone. Assad is guilty of fighting rebels within Syria´s own borders who are executing people. The same type of terrorists who killed our people in Benghazi and who slaughtered people in Egypt.
Congress, do your duty and vote no on Obamas unethical adventures and do it now. Don´t get waylaid by false excuses and stalling by more lies and deception. He doesn´t have the authority to declare war like Dictators of old. There is a reason why Congress is held in such low esteem by the American public. This is another one of those reasons.
If he bombs anyone in the future without Congressional approval... Impeach him.
The only reason to delay the vote is that he knows it will not pass. If it would pass, this will not force Obama to bomb Syria; it would only provide him the authority to do so.
I would like to see Obama´s proof that Assad carried out the attack. The only proof that he gave was that there was an attack and Assad has chemical weapons. Well, the rebels also have them and we do too.
The article concludes with the thought that the US has vital interest in the middle east implying something must be done. This is all true but don´t authorize Barky to use force or do anything. He will botch it and make the situation worse. With Obama as president the best thing we can do is nothing. The idea of humanitarian goals in war is nice but where do you start? So many wars to fight and so few willing to set things right all around the world. Why didn´t Obama intervene to help the rebels in Iran - the source of problems in the middle east. He never lifted a finger to help them because they were not muslim brotherhood or Al Queda. They were actually pro american and their overthrow of the mullas would have changed the whole picture in the middle east. Iran is a real threat. Don´t talk about humanitarin goals after ignoring the downtrodden people of Iran!
We now have a president who is a laughing stock. Putin has bested him on the world stage. The United States is riding the bench now which is just fine by Obama because he didn´t want to play that game anyway. His focus has been domestic. He is much more comfortable pushing his progressive agenda here. He knows that will do more lasting harm to this country than mucking about in foreign affairs. The man is driven. He is on a mission and will not be deterred. Total transformation is his goal.
I truly believe this whole thing was a manufactured crisis. I believe the administration was planning on working with Russia all along, making this a sort of anti-Bush "this is how diplomacy is done" act.. John Kerry knew of these plans but accidentally blabbed them which sent everyone in a panic trying to normalize their message again which lead to this crazy, nonsensical, conflicting message coming from the white house & the government. Obama was playing a game with our nation and he really lost control of this one.
What troubles me the most would be that of you totaled the carnage on the streets of Chicago during his Presidency it would eclipse the Syria problem, and it´s his "home" town. Where is the outrage for those children who continue to die on a daily basis and worse yet are breeding for future failure through their "baby daddy" system, which is rewarded by the federal government to shore up his base.
It was the rebels...Proof http://www.usnews.com/news/newsgram/articles/2013/09/10/freed-hostages-reveal-information-on-chemical-attacks-in-syria
Freed Hostages Reveal Information on Chemical Attacks in Syria Hostages share potentially new details about Syria´s attacks By KATHERINE BEARD September 10, 2013
Belgian national Pierre Piccinin, left, and Italian journalist Domenico Quirico, right center, were kidnapped in Syria in April and claim to have overheard new details on Syrian chemical attacks. Domenico Quirico, an Italian journalist, and Pierre Piccinin, a Belgian teacher, disclosed a grim account of their captivity in Syria as well as potentially new information about the chemical weapon attacks, upon their return to Rome
As a seasoned war correspondent, Quirico traveled to Syria by means of Lebanon on April 6 to cover the revolution. Three days later, Quirico and Piccinin were kidnapped as they traveled to the Syrian city of Homs together.
Held hostage for six months, Quirico and Piccinin claim to have overheard their captors through closed doors, discussing the chemical weapon attacks near Damascus. Piccinin reports that the rebels said that Assad was not responsible for the attacks.
"It wasn´t the government of Bashar al-Assad that used sarin gas or any other gas in Ghouta," Piccinin revealed on Belgian RTL radio.
"We are sure about this because we overheard a conversation between rebels. It pains me to say it because I´ve been a fierce supporter of the Free Syrian Army in its rightful fight for democracy since 2012," Piccinin said.
Obama is aching to get back to the Hollywood fundraisers, overheated speeches before school children, and leisurely afternoons on the golf course. He´ll accept whatever Putin offers to get this story off the front page.
#16 I wonder the same what´s with the fixation with videos? Benghazi now this. We don´t have a president we have a movie critic. Thanks Vlad for exposing the wimp in charge. Now for a round of golf for the ´taupe dope´ after this little distraction.
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Ida Lou Pino, 9/11/2013 10:09:48 AM (No. 9515780)
OK - - so here´s the gist of the deal Zippy has agreed to - - - -
1. Brutal, murderous dictators are allowed two chemical weapons attacks against their political opponents.
2. Those two non-punishable attacks may kill several thousand civilians - - but no more.
3. Authority for controlling the balance of the chemical weapons is ceded to another brutal dictator.
4. The audit and control of the chemical weapons has no guidelines and no time limits - - and no credible military force will be used to enforce the non-existing guidelines and timetables.
5. The original murderous dictator is then free to use as many conventional weapons as he chooses to - - most of which are supplied by the chemical weapons-supervising dictator - - against his political opponents with impunity.
6. Rinse - - and repeat Steps 1-5.
Is that about it? Is that the diplomatic triumph that the leftists are celebrating?
FTA: "The speech was exceptionally revealing in the logical disconnect that plagues his policy..." This is the core of the problem with most liberals: they cannot think logically, and because of this, they are blinded to the inconsistencies in their positions on a host of issues. Throw in a lack of common sense, and you have the proverbial "brick wall" situation when trying to carry on a civil discourse with these people on just about any issue/topic. My question is: how did this country ever spawn as many of these types of people as we seem to have among us? Sorry, that is a rhetorical question: the answers, of course, are the education establishment and a lame press that is more interested in its own agenda than it is in being the accountability organization it should be.
Oh well, at least the state of Colorado struck a blow for freedom last night!!!
Today, as we remember and honor the dead of 9-11, Obama´s speech last night rings in my ears. HE wants us to get in bed with the people who attacked us on 9-11 ! To me, this is treason. This is aiding and abetting the enemy. The democrat party supports him therefore, may they all pay the price at the polls next year, along with the Republican elites who would also betray the American People.
O´s handlng of this entire matter may be absurd and destructive and may make us look like fools on the world stage. But it´s the takeaway by the somnambulant public that matters to this administration. Look for the MSM to hail Obama as the greatest diplomat since Metternich.
I don´t think he gives a damn about the chemical weapons. It`s just an excuse to continue what he´s been doing. To understand what´s happening you have to know the Sunnis and the Shi`ites are at war. Both sides try to maneuver western powers into fighting their wars for them. Obama appears to have been recruited to the Sunni (Muslim Brotherhood side), Putin to the Shi´ite (Iran/Syria) side. The US effort from the Arab Spring to Benghazi to Syria has been an effort to put the Muslim Brotherhood into power geographically from from Libya to Turkey. Syria is the last building block needed to complete the process (though Egypt has to be somehow taken back from the military). Now though, it looks like Putin (patron of the Shi`ites) might have stopped him at the last moment. Obama needs somehow to get Assad out of power to complete the project so he´s keeping the military ready to strike. It´s a very dangerous plan. Iran has or is about to get nukes and will justifiably feel surrounded. If Assad falls the Sunni/Shi`ite war could blossom into WWIII.
Read the comments in the original article from the fools who support the FOTUS, and you will see how absolutely screwed we are. Obozo seems determined to serve us up World War 1 again, to be followed by a right wing backlash that will be equivalent to Germany in the early 30´s. the Socialist Weimar was so corrupt it paved the way for someone who could at least make the trains run on time. If only the middle could screw up their courage and stand up to Obozo instead of being afraid of being called a racist. McCain, Cantor, Boehner and Gramnesty have to be kicked out, just as much as Obozo.
This has to just be a stalling tactic. In aerial dog-fight terms Obama has entered the skirmish, only to be jettisoned/handed his donkey on a plate and licking his wounds. The conditions were not favorable to him. He´ll return to the fight when terms look more favorable to him. Valerie´s fingerprints are all over this because it is all so crazy/illogical.
BTW: On the anniversary of 09/11/01 I´d like to ask why New Yorkers(or any other state´s citizens) how in the world they could vote for a president who supports Al Qaeda? Really?
As I listened last night , I assumed from Obama´s extremely hawkish and bellicose beginning that he was about to announce that the bombing had already begun. He went from channeling Nikita Khrushchev pounding his shoe and declaring " We will bury Syria !!! " to Mr Rogers singing Kumbaya in the space of 15 minutes. Bizarre and unbelievable , an unfunny SNL parody. Has anyone ever seen Barry drive a vehicle ? I imagine he floors it for awhile, then slams on the brakes and then guns it in reverse and then drives around in circles and eventually he puts in it park and abandons the car , with the doors left open and the engine idling. And then denies driving the car and blames someone else.
The Boy WONder just needs to sit back and watch history happen. It is not within his abilities to make anything better but he certainly can find ways to screw it all up.
Why are chemical weapons so much worse than conventional weapons? It must be a psychological thing. Personally, I would rather be fed poison gas than have my head sawed slowly off with a dull knife. Both are MUSLIM specialties and that is the point we should remember, especially today. Letting them kill each other is by far the best course of action.
Convoluted: Tell everyone that the Russians came to the table because of a threat of the use of US military force. Then, prior to negotiating with the Russians, take the military option off of the table by postponing the use of force vote in Congress.
This insults our intelligence. He didn´t and doesn´t have the votes. The Russians know this and so it will be they who threaten the use of military force.
I did watch the speech and this is what was heard:
“Hello. This is terrible. Men, women, and children have been gassed and have died horrible deaths. Children have died. The government of Syria is certainly guilty but I won’t bother you with the proof. Children have died. I’ve been trying to fix things since the previous administration got us into two wars. I can’t ignore what happened; I must act; it is who we are. Children have died. I am the President. I am the Commander in Chief. I have to do something; the world is watching but I will not put boots on the ground. I will do something more than a pinprick. We cannot allow these actions to stand. Children have died. I believe in America and so I have asked Congress to consider my proposal to act. So for now, never mind. God bless America.”
I re-read the transcript, twice Obama refered to our "democracy"..We are a Republic ! It is important to understand the difference. He is a disgusting piece of work. Here´s the difference:Send it to friends to explain the different forms of governemnt and what the USA is NOT !
Thank you #1 I´m still laughing. It was Regan who used humor like the greatest sword ever to defeat the left. Wish we had a candidate the could pull off the quick quips the gipper disarmed the idiots with.
All posts are excellent. During the day I couldn´t get the image out of my mind about a skinny little kid telling his friends to hold him back (not voting for war in Congress) before he attacks the school bully.
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