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GOP: Obama promised health premiums
would drop $2,500; Fact: They´re up $3,000

Investor´s Business Daily, by Andrew Malcolm

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Posted By:SurferLad, 9/7/2013 9:32:01 AM

Hi. I’m Dr. John Barrasso, United States Senator for Wyoming. As a doctor who took care of patients for 25 years, I saw the problems with America’s health care system every day. There’s no question we needed real reform — reform so that people could get the care they needed, at lower cost. Americans now know that’s not what President Obama’s health care law delivered. What we got is higher taxes and bigger government, without the lower costs or quality care. The so-called Affordable Care Act is hurting middle class families — their wages, their jobs and their health care.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: jalo1951, 9/7/2013 10:00:58 AM     (No. 9509977)

My premiums actually went up $4200 a year. We were told it was because of obamacare. I had to drop my health insurance so I am now without coverage. Oh, wow, thanks a lot. The scary part is there are a whole lot of ignorant people out there who actually think obamacare and the services it provides will be FREE. I sure would like to see someone interview justice roberts and ask him why he decided to let obama screw the american public.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Cat Ballou, 9/7/2013 10:09:03 AM     (No. 9509992)

A clear case of bait and switch, defund, get rid of all parts of it that have found their way into the system, and ignore whatever the silly fools try to implement anyway.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: ruready?, 9/7/2013 10:19:41 AM     (No. 9510015)

Prediction - if Lindsey does not vote to defund Obamacare, he will be defeated in 2014.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: John c, 9/7/2013 10:21:41 AM     (No. 9510021)

Nixon did the right thing and resigned.
Does any one think obama will do the right thing ever?

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Bubbasuncle, 9/7/2013 10:25:54 AM     (No. 9510026)

My premium went from $398 to over $750 two weeks after the law was signed. Luckily the plan I had did not meet the ACA requirements so I got to choose another plan and raise my deductible to 10K in order to lower my monthly payment. Just received another letter this week that was very interesting. It says the good news is that you can keep your coverage in 2014 and beyond as long as you pay your premiums. Then it continues to say that while premiums are not guaranteed to remain unchanged, they (then in bold type) may be less than the anticipated higher premiums of new plans. But the real kicker was a Rider attached to conform with he new Federal law basically saying your terms can change at any time as required by said law. We are so screwed.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Ribicon, 9/7/2013 10:26:01 AM     (No. 9510027)

People in the band between those riding the federal gravy wagon and those who need not consider the price of gasoline are being ravaged by these cost increases, for years now.

There´s the Democrats who "care about the average folks" and the feckless Republicans whose "hands are tied" or perhaps who want us to think they´re "poker-playing the Dems into a corner," and then there are families making tough choices between being responsible (and wasting colossal amounts of money on nothing), or going on Medicaid.

All with no end in sight, no alternate proposals (tort reform, banning favored pricing for insurers, any number of remedies would work). Thanks, one-party system.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Hobbiest, 9/7/2013 10:27:29 AM     (No. 9510028)

I analyzed my bill for a recent hospital stay. What I found was too much defensive medicine to insulate the hospital from lawsuits and bureaucratic bloat. Then there is the problem of doctors and nurses who are completely ignorant of what things cost and whether there may be equally effective lower cost alternatives. Indeed they became hostile when I kept asking such questions.

Here´s the kicker. $19,000 later there was NO change in the initial diagnosis. My analsyis is that about half of that was defensive overtesting, too much bureaucratic overhead, and game playing. The hospital administrators jack the bill up 30%, the insurance company whaps 25% off and all the buraucrats get to claim they won. Meanwhile the patients and taxpayers lose.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: kanphil, 9/7/2013 10:30:49 AM     (No. 9510035)

Another lie. I have asked my lib friends to let me know if the ever catch Bigears telling the truth.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Ribicon, 9/7/2013 10:52:18 AM     (No. 9510068)

#7, to add to all that (much of which would be addressed via tort reform), consider: if you had no insurance (in effect, you self-insured, as people did years ago), your bill would be several times that amount.

For the simple fact of being in a health network, you receive "discounts" off the inflated list price, including doctor fees, diagnostic tests, facility fees, prescription drugs... the lot of it. In effect, the insurance companies and medical industry (with government blessing) collude to make a situation that if you have no insurance, you will be destroyed by medical bills.

No different from a protection racket, where the helpful man makes sure your store doesn´t have an "unfortunate fire" or vandalism, all perfectly legal.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Hobbiest, 9/7/2013 11:04:13 AM     (No. 9510077)

#9. I don´t have insurance. My physicians all offer discounts for those who don´t and are aware of costs.

Hospitals are another matter altogether. One issue with them related to tort reform is that institutions are more likely to get sued than individual doctors.

It truly irked me that hospital staff is actually taught to refer people who question costs to a social worker who then checks if that person may qualify for a government program!

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Reply 11 - Posted by: 4freedom, 9/7/2013 11:06:20 AM     (No. 9510082)

I started to watch Hannity last night he had a bunch of college kids both Democrat and Repubs in a debate style setting. Obamacare was one of the subjects. You could instantly tell which ones were taught by ultra progressive Marxist professors spewing out a bunch of nonsense, I had to turn it off it made me so mad. Until we address this cr*p being taught in schools, we are doomed.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: navybrat, 9/7/2013 11:22:02 AM     (No. 9510097)

I have had and paid for healthcare insurance all of my adult working life. I once took a very high deductible. This meant I paid for the smaller things. It was good and affordable in that I got a discount for paying cash. Most physicians offices do not seem to know how to handle pay as you go method. I can afford to pay for a $20 flu shot or a cold. I need insurance to insure that I have way to pay should I have a serious illness that requires surgery or hospitalization.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: hoosier-luger, 9/7/2013 11:26:15 AM     (No. 9510102)

Because of the lack of personal integrity that leads to an unreasonable fear of death -- "medical care" will eventually consume the entire GNP.

Specifically, the cost of "medical care" will continue to go up and up -- because (a) innovations are constantly created, and (b) selfish patients (and their lawyers) demand all of these new treatments, devices and medications -- and usually (c) with the further demand that someone else pay for it.

Infancy, it seems, begins again after 60.

Neither Obama, nor his GOP critics will make any headway until they address the real causes of the cost problem.







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Reply 14 - Posted by: rochow, 9/7/2013 12:16:12 PM     (No. 9510158)

Every word out of this empty suit has been a lie. When off teleprompter he can´t explain a single thing about zero-care! So, you people who voted for this drip, how is it working out for you!?

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Pammie, 9/7/2013 1:02:47 PM     (No. 9510202)

So in our U.S. Government´s world, we, the American people, really got a $5500 increase on our insurance premiums! BOO! BOO! BOO!

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Reply 16 - Posted by: veritas, 9/7/2013 2:41:55 PM     (No. 9510331)

Never forget -- a lot of the insane costs are legalized [Congressionally mandated] fraudulent charges to insured patients to pay for treating "the uninsured" [aka illegal aliens and domestic deadbeats].

And did they use the same guys who "estimated" this "unusually active hurricane season"?

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Reply 17 - Posted by: hoosier-luger, 9/7/2013 2:55:05 PM     (No. 9510347)

Yes, to some extent there is subsidization going on.

But the real cost increases for "health care" are driven by the immaturity of the typical American adult (qua infant) who demands a new, 5% better drug or treatment -- at a cost increase of of 300%.

This paranoia, when coupled with the illusory concept of "insurance", makes it seem that the only marginally better(if at all)"new" stuff is "free".

So, why not? I worked at one point in time. So, I deserve to have other people pay for my stuff now!!

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Reply 18 - Posted by: bob913, 9/7/2013 3:58:42 PM     (No. 9510401)

The company I am working is dropping coverage most the majority of the people. The rest as the letter we received stated "for those that qualify...."

That will mean will will all lose our coverage.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 9/8/2013 1:50:09 AM     (No. 9510862)

Over ten years ago, I was paying over $1100 a month for a $2500 deductible. Couldn´t change to anything less expensive because of a pre-ex or as a group of one. Couldn´t qualify for individual coverage. Didn´t have umpteen children to qualify for Medicaid.

Every American citizen should be entitled to critical health care. They are certainly more entitled to medical care than non-citizens who come here.

There is something wrong when you turn on your TV to see the top docs in top hospitals perform miracle surgery for free to someone from another country, but the American taxpayer has to beg, borrow, or hold a fundraiser for live saving surgery.

For the cost of healthcare reform before it even starts in January, the medical bills of uninsured Americans could have been paid.

This is a travesty. It is sad that no one We elected has the power or willpower to put a stop to it. Especially, since they were up in arms when it affected their own care or staffers.



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