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President Obama could
lose big on Syria in House

Politico, by John Bresnahan and Jake Sherman

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Posted By:Desert Fox, 9/5/2013 8:29:25 PM

If the House voted today on a resolution to attack Syria, President Barack Obama would lose — and lose big. That’s the private assessment of House Republican and Democratic lawmakers and aides who are closely involved in the process. If the Senate passes a use-of-force resolution next week — which is no sure thing — the current dynamics suggest that the House would defeat it. That would represent a dramatic failure for Obama, and once again prove that his sway over Congress is extraordinarily limited. The loss would have serious reverberations throughout the next three months, when Obama faces off against Congress


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Italiano, 9/5/2013 8:37:23 PM     (No. 9507637)

Obama´s contempt for America chickens are coming home to roost. Get rid of him first, paralyze his domestic agenda, neutralize him, fix the rest of the problems later.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Mobyclik, 9/5/2013 8:40:45 PM     (No. 9507645)

So, how many tens of billions of dollars is it going to cost the taxpayers to ´sway´ these Honorable lawmakers to finally see the light of His Most Wonderful and Knowing?

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Northcross, 9/5/2013 8:44:43 PM     (No. 9507651)

If I were in Congress, in either party, there is no way that I would provide Obama cover for what he wanted to do against the wishes of my constituents. Unless of course he has the embarrassing negatives.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Keekng, 9/5/2013 8:45:04 PM     (No. 9507652)

The combined IQ of that group is almost triple digit.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: lotsamojo, 9/5/2013 8:50:05 PM     (No. 9507659)

To me, the big question is . . . how can anybody (congressperson/senator) have any confidences in (the lack of) leadership provided by Obama, Biden, Kerry, Reid, Boehner, Cantor, Pelosi . . . combined with almost no/zero/nada, reliable "allies" - a house of clowns, pathetic!

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Reply 6 - Posted by: GringoinQuito, 9/5/2013 9:10:40 PM     (No. 9507675)

I hope to God they realize that he is using them to provide cover for his sorry a@@.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: ivehadit, 9/5/2013 10:12:38 PM     (No. 9507737)

What has Assad moved weapons-wise and where has he moved it?
Who fills his position if he is taken out?

How long does it take for Assad to secure his country from a US airstrike? It´s been 2 years since we first told him to leave.

How do we get rid of the WMD? And as an aside, WHERE did the Wmd come from?

How many civilians will be killed and what´s the difference between being killed by Assad or by a missle?

Will this start WWIII?

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Reply 8 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 9/5/2013 11:37:35 PM     (No. 9507800)

Now is the time for the republican`s in the House to tell Boehner to shove it. You hang your fortunes on this Speaker`s `leadership` and you`ll lose the House in 2014.

Stand up and do the right thing or take a hike into oblivion.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: beamer, 9/6/2013 5:24:17 AM     (No. 9507911)

I agree. Dump Boehner! Put a true conservative in charge.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: bpl40, 9/6/2013 7:15:47 AM     (No. 9508015)

Regardless of any other facts or justification, the very foundation of any authorization by Congress for use of force is the quality, character, integrity and leadership ability of the CinC. We have a bed wetting, pantywaist, left wing metrosexual. Does that bother anyone?

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Reply 11 - Posted by: OhMy, 9/6/2013 7:16:53 AM     (No. 9508017)

First check the NSA files on anyone who votes against the ones war and if that doesn´t work try the bribery route. I see no other explanation for the level of corruption in congress. The worst president ever using the military he despises as mercenaries for his Al Queda buddies in Syria. The republican leadership is so gratified that Obama called them that they can´t comply fast enough.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Patchy Groundfog, 9/6/2013 7:25:20 AM     (No. 9508026)

Sheila Jackson Lee is ´enormously open.´

And staggeringly ignorant.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: privateer, 9/6/2013 7:34:43 AM     (No. 9508034)

A gaseous cesspit of stupididty.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Janjan, 9/6/2013 7:38:35 AM     (No. 9508035)

Obama has never built a relationship in Congress with his own Party - let alone the Republicans. Boehner and Cantor made a huge miscalculation when they openly backed a war that 80% of their base is against thinking they will get some non-existent political brownie points with Obama. Obama can forget about Congressional support for an un-defined butt covering mission to nowhere and Boehner needs to resign as Speaker.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Not your typical New Yorker, 9/6/2013 7:42:25 AM     (No. 9508040)

Many chickens coming home to roost and poop on Barry´s lying phony head, it sure took enough time but its happens.

God has surely taught this nation a good hard lesson this time around, eh?

Will America take heed...?

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Not your typical New Yorker, 9/6/2013 7:43:36 AM     (No. 9508043)


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Reply 17 - Posted by: Rinktum, 9/6/2013 7:46:10 AM     (No. 9508045)

I would like to think the Republicans are working hard to defeat this resolution. If they were true representatives of the people´s will, it would go down in flames. I doubt the majority if them even take their constituents opinions in consideration. Political favors rule the day. Watch. This will play out just like Obamacare. Votes will be bought.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: strike3, 9/6/2013 8:29:53 AM     (No. 9508105)

It would be extremely ironic and very satisfying to me if the event that brings the downfall of barack obama is something he hasn´t even done yet. Obamacare, stimulus, etc. were bullied through a reluctant citizenry. A meaningless war started by a bruised ego is just one step too far, i.e. a Red Line.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: saucy, 9/6/2013 8:31:28 AM     (No. 9508108)

So where are all the anti-war leftists?

Y´know, the rent-a-mob group that ALWAYS protests a repubbie war?


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Reply 20 - Posted by: Mr. Know-It-All, 9/6/2013 8:47:14 AM     (No. 9508136)

You pegged it #6. This is just a ruse so that He can pass the buck onto congress (i.e., republicans) for not following up on His empty blustering threats. And of course the enemedial will gladly support the story. Before its all done, Boehner and company will be seen by the lofo´s as being evil cowards who wouldn´t defend the innocent, peace loving people of Syria.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Mr. Know-It-All, 9/6/2013 8:49:00 AM     (No. 9508138)

Oops. That should be "enemedia", aka the American "news" organizations. Dang this defective keyboard!!

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Coy860, 9/6/2013 9:14:34 AM     (No. 9508186)

The vote is scheduled for this coming wednesday. THAT is September 11 !
The democrats really want to rub Americans´ noses in it.
I am very angry about this.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: patrick28nov45, 9/6/2013 9:35:05 AM     (No. 9508224)

Good post #8: the best post of the day.


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Reply 24 - Posted by: mc squared, 9/6/2013 9:40:25 AM     (No. 9508231)

Obama is incapable of being embarrassed. Simply not in his genes.
The ´not my red line´ statement confirmed it.

Meanwhile, back at Benghazi.....

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Arby, 9/6/2013 10:10:22 AM     (No. 9508284)

Next step: millions of dollars spent on infomercials with Matt Damon, designed to sway the vote.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Holeymoses, 9/6/2013 10:16:27 AM     (No. 9508305)

That´s what he is counting on. His only way out politically. He can say he is following the will of the people and won´t have to act. Congress gets the blame for whatever follows.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: dman, 9/6/2013 10:52:29 AM     (No. 9508376)

#8 said it for me, also. And then there are the pending CR and debt ceiling votes, with provisions to fund Obamacare. On all three votes: grow a spine or be gone, Republicans.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: mickturn, 9/6/2013 11:02:38 AM     (No. 9508405)

Someone needs to politically slap the punk into reality...

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Reply 29 - Posted by: GOPinTN, 9/6/2013 11:25:19 AM     (No. 9508455)

Kick the can to Congress, the Empty Chair has spoken.

I´ve concluded that having congress assert it´s authority again against an overreaching executive branch is more important to our long term government health than now trying to save some of what´s left of our international standing.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: maryc, 9/6/2013 11:37:54 AM     (No. 9508481)

There is virtually no successful outcome either way this goes for both Syria and for America so no matter how the vote goes down you can anticipate 100 to 1 odds that whichever way it goes we will get another completely embarrassing speech where obama says it´s not his fault. Our founders and all those who gave their lives for this great union are rolling over in their graves. How can one gutless hate filled man shame so many. Not to mention obama looks like he needs Depends every time he even walks by Putin.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: RancherJack, 9/6/2013 11:55:03 AM     (No. 9508524)

... and if the House refuses him, Lindsey Graham will nuke Charleston´s harbor just to show South Carolina how much trouble they´ll be in if they vote him out of office ...

Google Graham, Black Ops transfer, missing nuclear weapon ..

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Reply 32 - Posted by: berlin, 9/6/2013 12:17:02 PM     (No. 9508564)

McCain, Graham, Boehner - what a troika! Three old horses that have been ready for the knacker´s yard a long time ago.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Lonestar Jack, 9/6/2013 12:49:57 PM     (No. 9508644)

Good Lord -- Boehner is third in line.
Dump him now because he represents what the Conservatives are adamantly against and get a good Conservative at the reigns.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: congaree53, 9/6/2013 1:02:59 PM     (No. 9508667)

The good news for the GOP is that the neocons are in the process of being exorcised from the party. Citizens are openly mocking McCain; Bill Kristol is looking more and more like an isolated joke.
Marco Rubio-a former neocon-is doing an about- face, joining Rand Paul. Sure there are neocon hold-outs, arguing: Iraq good; Syria bad. Truth is the Iraq war was idiotic, wasted a cool trillion, and polls show most Americans share my position and WANT NOTHING to do with the middle east anymore. I´m surprised Obama does not get this given he won twice-comfortably! on blaming Bush and the neocons.
If Romney had rejected the neocons early on, rather than staffing his foreign politcy team with these idiots (Bolton, Dan Senor), he might have won in a squeeker. Still it is better that the GOP get that neoconservatism is a losing ideology late rather than never (Neoconservatism is in many respects a Wilsonian LIBERAL point of view.) Conservatism does not require a prefix.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: hoosiergirl71, 9/6/2013 1:08:37 PM     (No. 9508679)

Obama wanting Congressional approval is his attempt to "talk" the spilled milk back into the bottle.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: Rafter, 9/6/2013 1:26:56 PM     (No. 9508723)

Considering the number of Americans who have lost their houses in recent times...
Nothing could be more fitting than for O-Bomber the NO-Bomber to lose the House
on this vote...
and O-Bomber should lose the White House he so fraudulently retained in the 2012 Steal...!

With the posts above slamming certain House members and other politico´s, allow me to
reiterate certain views...

Regarding Fraud Kerry...

He should never do Lurch in this town again!
His grade... Epic FAIL... !!

Now regarding Congress...
We need a Constitutional Amendment...
For a citizen-sponsored RECALL Election for all national offices...

Obviously much of the 2012 results were fraudulent.
Time for a complete RECALL Election for all House and Senate offices simultaneously!
And for the Presiduncy and Vice Presiduncy, of course... a national refer-end-dumb.

The Eastern-based Elitists will never clean up this mess for us.
They are too timid to impeach and convict.

We need legal measures now...
to dump any and all as we see fit by voting.
One of the Liberty Amendments or whatever you want to dub them...
Must be a citizen-generated immediate vote of NO Confidence in the Gummint...
And a complete RECALL Election to rid ourselves of this pile of worthlessness...

Many Congress-Ho´s are being exposed for the lame frauds they are.
We need the means to rid ourselves of this incompetent travesty of Gummint right now.
A National Refer-End-Dumb.
Buh-Bye, Dumb-O... and Company...

We need new leadership... and we´ll have to push for it ourselves.
We should not have to wait until November 2014 or January 2015 to get it done.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: Butch59, 9/6/2013 1:40:09 PM     (No. 9508738)

I wonder how much money it will cost the taxpayer for all the deals that are going to made just to corral a few votes. You and I know very well that congress critters work that way. NOTHING ever done is congress is cheap. Buying and selling votes is the normal business in both houses.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: fairplay, 9/6/2013 2:27:35 PM     (No. 9508810)

Hopefully the House will vote no!
Obama has no World support except for France who will just standby and watch. 80% of the American people are against this!

This air strike could be ineffectual and might open a can of worms!
The key to success is diplomacy and getting Putin onboard! We all know that is going.

Obama hints he will go it alone as some kind of World King. This will be OBAMA´S FAULT!!!

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Reply 39 - Posted by: sorosisbehindit, 9/6/2013 5:51:46 PM     (No. 9509159)

The people who ask for our votes every few years will bring themselves down by ignoring the people on this vote!
It will be a huge boost to the constitutional amendments movement when people on both sides realize that our "representative government" is not the least bit interested in representing the voters and taxpayers.
My favorite amendment is number one. A 12 year term limit in congress would send all of the worst offenders back home when their current term ends.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: Dodge Boy, 9/6/2013 8:10:42 PM     (No. 9509347)

Hopefully enough of the sheep are paying attention with their free cell phones.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: owl, 9/6/2013 8:47:29 PM     (No. 9509391)

As an eloquent writer spoke , he cannot lead from behind again when he found he was alone: he had to turn back " He´s not a point man ".

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It’s the stuff of Westerns: a showdown on the desert plains, the big bad government against an underdog farmer. Though the story has only grabbed national headlines in the past several days, rancher Cliven Bundy has illegally grazed cattle on the Nevada land surrounding his farm for over 20 years. He hasn’t paid grazing fees since 1993, and refuses to renew the necessary grazing permit.(Snip)Rather than using the avenues and pathways presented to him, Bundy has staunchly declared his own law and allegiances. Unfortunately, reality doesn’t work this way. If only it did—we could rebel for paying stupid taxes, refuse to

Michelle Obama Riverdances
Through Dublin to the Tune
of $7,921,638

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Breitbart Big Peace, by Tom Fitton    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/17/2014 6:45:16 AM     Post Reply
When it comes to tracking the cost of Obama family vacations, there are two primary challenges. First, the Obamas are prolific jet-setters, so there are many details to track. Second, the Obama administration, clearly embarrassed by these lavish and frequent family vacations, stonewalls the release of records at every turn. But we have been relentless in pursuit of this information. Our attorneys file the lawsuits and make our case, and our investigators pour through pages of records and crunch the numbers. And the information we’ve uncovered – information that would otherwise remain under lock and key – shows that the

Pelosi assists in Holy Week
foot-washing ritual

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San Francisco Chronicle, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: Harlowe- 4/18/2014 11:46:54 AM     Post Reply
To "honor the dignity and work of immigrants," Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi helps Bishop Marc Andrus wash the feet of two children Thursday at Saint John the Evangelist Episcopal Church in San Francisco. Pelosi also used the occasion to talk about passing HR15 - bipartisan immigration legislation that her office says would "reduce the deficit by nearly $1 trillion, secure our borders, unite our families, protect our workers and provide an earned pathway to citizenship." The Democratic leader´s ceremony coincides with Pope Francis´ similar ceremony in Rome to mark Holy Week.

Deadbeat on the Range
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New York Times, by Timothy Eagan    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 3:52:52 PM     Post Reply
Imagine a vendor on the National Mall, selling burgers and dogs, who hasn’t paid his rent in 20 years. He refuses to recognize his landlord, the National Park Service, as a legitimate authority. Every court has ruled against him, and fines have piled up. What’s more, the effluents from his food cart are having a detrimental effect on the spring grass in the capital. Would an armed posse come to his defense, aiming their guns at the park police? Would the lawbreaker get prime airtime on Fox News, breathless updates in the Drudge Report, a sympathetic ear from Tea Party Republicans?

Illinois Dems to offer $100 million in
taxpayer money to lure Obama library site

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Investor´s Business Daily, by Andrew Malcolm    Original Article
Posted By: SurferLad- 4/18/2014 9:15:50 AM     Post Reply
First, the good news: We are close enough to the end of the Obama presidency for his crowd to talk about a presidential library. Now, the bad news: Obama´s retirement is still 1,008 days distant. Plenty of time though to round up the dough to build it somewhere. Figure they need Solyndra-style money, at least $500 million. The last two presidents – Bill Clinton and George W. Bush -- built their legacy edifices totally with private money. [Snip] However, Obama supporters have a different take. They think taxpayers should put up $100 million in public money for Obama´s library.

Every Media Outlet: Hillary
Grandkid the Most Consequential
Baby Since Jesus

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Mediaite, by Tina Nguyen    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/18/2014 10:34:40 AM     Post Reply
Less than 16 hours after Chelsea Clinton announced she was pregnant, a lot of major news outlets started staring into the crystal ball of Chelsea’s womb, wondering what this currently floating zygotic multicellular being meant for the prospects of Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign, which is also a floating, zygotic, multicellular being. Their answer: The immaculately conceived Clinton child could mean everything. And no, it’s not just the fact that having a grandchild could be personally fulfilling to Hillary and Bill (mazel tov, by the way), or that a cute baby would be a sweet cherry on top of Hillary’s already

Glen Campbell has been
moved into a facility

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People Magazine, by Gilliam Telling    Original Article
Posted By: Hazymac- 4/17/2014 6:58:48 PM     Post Reply
Glen Campbell has been suffering from Alzheimer´s for over three years, but the Grammy-winning singer, 78, has recently moved into a facility, PEOPLE has confirmed. "He was moved to an Alzhemier´s facility last week," says a family friend. "I´m not sure what the permanent plan is for him yet. We´ll know more next week." The "Rhinestone Cowboy" crooner first opened up about having Alzheimer´s to PEOPLE in an exclusive 2011 interview. Campbell and his fourth wife, Kim Woolen, decided to go public with the news because Campbell hoped to embark on a final farewell live tour. The couple wanted his

Even Hillary Clinton Isn’t Sure What
We Should Like About Hillary Clinton

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PJ Media, by Stephen Kruiser    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/18/2014 4:33:53 AM     Post Reply
The first step is admitting… It was a simple question to someone accustomed to much tougher ones: What was her proudest achievement as secretary of state? But for a moment, Hillary Rodham Clinton, appearing recently before a friendly audience at a women’s forum in Manhattan, seemed flustered.(Snip)So…no definitive successes and some clear-cut failures. And that’s the generous New York Times assessment. The Democrat fantasy story about Mrs. Clinton paints her as strong and accomplished on her own. In reality, this is a woman who is professionally defined almost entirely by two men in her life, both of whom happen to have

Those ‘rogue’ agents
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New York Post, by Editorial    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/18/2014 4:37:07 AM     Post Reply
Remember when Lois Lerner, in answering a planted question at an American Bar Association conference, admitted the IRS had targeted conservative groups but tried to pass it off as the work of rogue agents — “our line people in Cincinnati”? Today we know there were indeed federal agents involved. But they weren’t rogue, and they weren’t confined to IRS workers in Cincinnati. Thanks to a Freedom of Information request by Judicial Watch, we now have an e-mail Lerner sent to colleagues noting the Department of Justice was looking into criminal prosecutions of these tax-exempt groups. We know something else, too. These investigations

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