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´Heat days´ become more
common for sweaty schools

Associated Press, by Don Babwin and David Mercer

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Posted By:NorthernDog, 9/2/2013 2:25:23 PM

CHICAGO — When city students arrived for the first day of school under the blazing temperatures of a Midwest heat wave, staff greeted them with some unusual school supplies: water bottles, fans and wet towels to drape around their necks. What they couldn´t always offer was air conditioning. (Snip) This year´s late August heat has exposed a tug-of-war in school districts that are under pressure to start school earlier than ever but are unable to pay to equip aging buildings with air conditioning. Parents who worry hot classrooms are a disadvantage for their kids are issuing an ultimatum: Make classes

Comments:
[with Lindsey Tanner, Jeni O´Malley, Chris Blank, and Barbara Rodriguez]
Easy problem to solve. Stop taking so many days off during the school year and you won´t have to start in the middle of summer!

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: KTWO, 9/2/2013 2:40:21 PM     (No. 9502504)

OP is right. Schools started in mid-August around Phoenix.

Of course the schools have a/c here. What doesn´t except Sheriff Joe´s tent city?

Extend the school day by an hour. Eliminate about 20 days of breaks, teacher preparations, etc.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: veritas, 9/2/2013 2:49:40 PM     (No. 9502515)

FTA: staff greeted them with... water bottles, fans and wet towels to drape around their necks.

Wow. Given such an enhanced educational environment, there out to be 20, maybe 30 Physics, Chemistry, and Medicine Nobels going to these kids in 15-20 year. Fermilab can recruit in its own back yard. Go, Rahm.

[Guess you and I were kept from a Turing Prize or a Nobel because our schools were too short-sighted to provide a water bottle and a wet towel. Bummer.]

It´s not surprising, though, that managing a school calendar is a challenge nowhere near being solved. How long have major, multi-school systems been around? 5 years? 7? Certainly no more than 10 years.

Of course, given that these are Chicago schools, a "Heat Day" could also mean "The cops are gonna come in and search e´thang."

That´s my bet.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: patpgmr, 9/2/2013 2:56:04 PM     (No. 9502524)

Maybe if they started school in September, instead of in August, they wouldn´t have this problem.

Michigan passed a law a few years ago to prevent public schools from starting the year before Labor Day. Helps with tourism. Weather is cooler, too.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: grampus, 9/2/2013 3:01:02 PM     (No. 9502527)

Advice for sweaty days in school:
Don´t sweat the petty things,
and
Don´t pat the sweaty things.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Hobbiest, 9/2/2013 3:01:40 PM     (No. 9502529)

The school buildings I attended weren´t designed to be used after Memorial Day or Before Labor Day. The only times school was closed for the weather was when the plows actually couldn´t keep up with the snow, which was about four or five times between kindergarten and senior year. Otherwise the school was open.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: fritzilou, 9/2/2013 3:04:35 PM     (No. 9502532)

How did we survive in these very same schools in Miami, Florida in the 1940´s, 50´s, 60´s ad infinitem..... We slept on sweaty sheets, pushed our beds up to the window and slept with our heads outside the windows with the screens pushed out. Ah, those were the days; we were made of hardy stuff. When we visited NYC relatives, we slept out on the fire escapes. Yes, we were hardy stuff. We actually played outside in the heat and my husband wore wool baseball uniforms when he played on teams in Miami...yes hardy stuff.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Hobbiest, 9/2/2013 3:07:07 PM     (No. 9502536)

Part of all the closings for weather is connected with the legal liability issues that arose when school consolidation and integration plans made the school districts rather than the parents responsible for transporting kids to the classrooms.

Neighborhood schools didn´t close every time a few snowflakes fell.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: smcchk, 9/2/2013 4:22:21 PM     (No. 9502595)

Wisconsin passed a law making the Tuesday after Labor Day the first day of school. Pools stay open because lifeguards are available, etc. Folks can enjoy the best weeks of summer at end of August, as June can be chilly here. And Wisconsin test scores don´t seem to have suffered.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: SoCalGal, 9/2/2013 4:50:28 PM     (No. 9502614)

Oh, for crying out loud. Our school usually started the Monday after Labor Day and in this area that meant Hot Weather Time. We usually had at least a week or two of temps in the high 90s, even low 100s, with no A/C, no fans, no doting teachers passing out relief. We sucked it up and soldiered on. It was a fact of (our) life.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Timber Queen, 9/2/2013 5:06:27 PM     (No. 9502621)

#9 I remember making folded fans from notebook paper in the San Fernando Valley when it was 105 and without a breeze to be found. We found no sympathy from the Irish Sisters of Charity wearing their black habits complete with white wimple and waist long veil..."offer it up to the cross."

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Reply 11 - Posted by: FunOne, 9/2/2013 5:09:32 PM     (No. 9502623)

Why don´t those political leaders in Chicago just tax people so all schools can have a/c?

They are all democrats, aren´t they?

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Illinois Mom, 9/2/2013 5:32:45 PM     (No. 9502635)

I always told my kids that they didn´t remove the air-conditioning after we went to school.

We didn´t even have fans...they just threw open the huge windows and let the late summer wasps in to bang against the ceiling. I remember the day I stood to give my answer to a question(Do they still do that?)and sat back down to the most incredibly painful feeling on the side of my leg. As I moved 2 wasps flew out from under my skirt. I was in so much pain but didn´t tell anyone because I´d have to show the Principal (A very nice Nun)my butt.

We didn´t start until the day after Labor Day and ended the first week in June. Also.. as long as the Sister´s could cross the walk from the convent to the school we NEVER had a snow day.

These kids are wimps no matter what.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: jalo1951, 9/2/2013 5:53:38 PM     (No. 9502648)

OK, I am going to start something here. Why do you think that just because you went to school in the heat it really isn´t a problem? AC is no different than heat. Would you have a problem with your child sitting in a room that was 32 degrees? Schools start at different times for different reasons. What works in WI might not work in FL. I work in a school. Most schools are not built like schools 50 plus years ago. They are not thick red brick with big windows to open surrounded by trees which shade the rooms. Most of the classrooms in my school have no windows and the ones that do do not open. I use to be a computer tech and I remember when we had AC problems and it ended up being over 100 degrees in the lab. You cannot suck it up and soldier on under those conditions. How many here live and work in AC? Would be you overjoyed to find out tomorrow that your AC would be taken away? We can have cool weather in May and hot weather in October. Maybe if obama would stop giving money to loser electric car companies maybe it might be possible to get some of these schools hooked up to AC. Don´t laugh this off until you try teaching 35 students under these conditions. I´m just saying think about it.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: craige, 9/2/2013 6:01:26 PM     (No. 9502653)

June 1st through September 1st. The average annual temperatures for Chicago are available at weatherunderground.com.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Patchy groundfog, 9/2/2013 6:04:36 PM     (No. 9502655)

Let us take some solace in the fact that morbidly obese CTU harridan Karen Lewis is especially uncomfortable in the heat.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: killerbee, 9/2/2013 6:13:00 PM     (No. 9502664)

#13: I agree. Making the kids sit there through horrendously hot days doesn´t do much to educate them as they´re going to be twice as lethargic as usual.

They should eliminate a few administrative positions and install air conditioning in all the schools with the savings. Or maybe the teachers union can step up and use the money they would otherwise have used for political campaigns on air conditioning for the students. Maybe a combination of the two approaches would see that the schools are up to snuff for education.



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Reply 17 - Posted by: JHHolliday, 9/2/2013 6:34:26 PM     (No. 9502679)

I was another one of those that went to school with no AC. We just opened the windows and suffered. This was late forties through 1960 in the deep South. It could get really hot even with the windows open. Usually only lasted a couple of weeks but I can remember sweat dripping on my papers.

I do agree with the poster who said the schools nowadays are built to have AC and become ovens without it. Modern buildings and not just schools can become useless without AC or power.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: MisterDickens, 9/2/2013 7:04:46 PM     (No. 9502710)

Poor little babies. I grew up in Texas. Often well over a hundred well into the school year. Mid to upper nineties all the way to October. I NEVER had air conditioning grades 1 through 12. I´ve seen it 83 on Xmas day and 93 in early February. We had fans and open windows. It was hot. We survived.

This is just liberalism at work turning our citizenry into whiners who look to the government asshats for everything.

Oh, by the way, the school offices and teacher´s lounges had big window a/c units. No surprise there.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: smcchk, 9/2/2013 7:13:09 PM     (No. 9502718)

OK everyone who suffered though the heat. We respect your suffering! We put up with 20 below zero days in the north. Yes, we have heat but it is still cold. And icy and snowy. And we also get into the 90´s and 100´s in the summer. For us, it makes sense to start school the Tuesday after Labor Day (not Monday, as one poster mistakenly said, as Labor Day is on Monday).

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Reply 20 - Posted by: 1976Ag, 9/2/2013 8:30:17 PM     (No. 9502773)

In Central Texas the schools I attended had no air conditioning until we got to high school where part of the building had A/C. Kids are getting too soft and entitled these days. What else would you expect in Chicago?

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Reply 21 - Posted by: SoCalGal, 9/2/2013 8:32:20 PM     (No. 9502776)

Um, re #19, I am the one who said we started school the Monday after Labor Day.

There IS a Monday after Labor Day. It is at the beginning of the next week.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: aindyin, 9/2/2013 8:55:06 PM     (No. 9502801)

When I was a kid in Phoenix we only had evaporative coolers no A/C. Im sorry global warm-scammers but its just not any hotter now than then.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 9/3/2013 4:23:07 AM     (No. 9503041)

Back in the old days, the Sisters closed the shades, opened the windows and classroom doors for cross ventilation, and let us take off our ties (regular for boys, bow ties for girls). We still had to put up with the woolen uniforms, but like another poster said, they did teach us how to make little paper fans from looseleaf paper.

And school started the Monday after Labor Day and went through the end of June, with no week off in February for "heat conservation week."

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Old Army Vet, 9/3/2013 8:20:27 AM     (No. 9503224)

We never had ac when I was growing up. Not one of my school classrooms was air conditioned. Get over it Chicago.

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Obama taps gay bishop to wrap Easter
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Washington Times, by Cheryl K. Chumley    Original Article
Posted By: jackson- 4/15/2014 9:25:28 AM     Post Reply
When President Obama needed a preacher to fulfill the closing prayer duties at the annual White House Easter Prayer Breakfast, he turned to none other than the Episcopal Church’s first openly gay bishop — who said he was as shocked as anyone at the appointment. The Right Rev. Gene Robinson said in a tweet, accompanied by a photo of Mr. Obama behind a podium at the event: “POTUS ‘preaches’ at the Easter prayer breakfast. Then, out of the blue, asks ME to close with prayer. OMG!” Newsmax said he also emphasized that the words he chose to close the breakfast


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