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A Third-Party Candidate on
the Rise in 2016?

American Thinker, by Sierra Rayne

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Posted By:SpeedMaster, 8/26/2013 6:06:05 AM

There are many lessons to be found in studying the American presidential election record. We´re currently moving through a period of profound frustration with the Republican Party. Many were looking and hoping for a Reagan-esque candidate to arise during the 2012 primary debates. Alas, there wasn´t one anywhere to be found. Obama and Romney took 98.17% of the popular vote. Obama won by 3.85%, and with only 1.83% of the popular vote going to candidates outside the top two parties, the non-two party vote was effectively irrelevant.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: MHR, 8/26/2013 6:15:14 AM     (No. 9491422)

A third party run will insure another win by the Democrats....just get the best candidate to run and let´s take it!

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Reply 2 - Posted by: StormCnter, 8/26/2013 6:16:54 AM     (No. 9491423)

FTA: That said, given Perot´s policies, it´s reasonable to assume the large majority of his vote would have gone to Bush 41. Perot almost certainly took a landslide victory away from Bush 41.

So, Ross Perot gave us Bill Clinton. A third party effort in 2016 will give us another Clinton. It´s something the unhappy conservatives should consider carefully.



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Reply 3 - Posted by: F15 Gork, 8/26/2013 6:26:25 AM     (No. 9491430)

Third party? Heck, I´d be happy with a viable second party!

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Spidey, 8/26/2013 6:44:05 AM     (No. 9491450)

The only 3rd party that could win would be outside government and have appeal across party lines.Which is almost impossible in a polarized country.Afarright3rd party would havd the dems the win.Rand Paul could probably get left and right votes but they would be a drop in the bucket to win.

Republicans will find a unity candidate by 2016,looks bad now but it will happen. How many people would be against Scott Walker for example.Forget Christie´s gaffes and Obama toe licking,he hasn´t been a successful governor like say Jindal, Walker or Snyder.

To me Rubio and Ryan have been traitors over immigration and neither may ever recover.

I hope the new governor of NC starts to get mentioned.

The arguments they would use against Cruz are the very ones they overlooked for Obama,not a citizen and too inexperienced.

The left would walk through razor blades barefooted to stop Palin.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: thelmalou, 8/26/2013 7:13:09 AM     (No. 9491472)

I agree with #3. When both parties are this similar, a third party is just about guaranteed. I, for one, have said NO MORE. I don´t care what the situation - I am voting my conscience and let the chips fall where they may. I have gone along to get along long enough. NO MORE. And if it means the Dems are in power another 20 years, well, how would that be different than what we have now?


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Reply 6 - Posted by: Janjan, 8/26/2013 7:20:13 AM     (No. 9491480)

#5 - you are correct. Another 20 years of Democrat rule wouldn´t be different than what we have now. Is that what you are shooting for? The worst Republican on the ticket would be preferable to the flaming liberal Marxist in the WH - not to mention the one who thinks she´s entitled to be next.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: bubby, 8/26/2013 7:23:58 AM     (No. 9491485)

#2 I held my nose and voted for McCain and Romney. I won´t do that again. If the GOP insists on nominating a moderate to get the so called "independent vote" someone like Jeb Bush or Chris Christie I will vote for a third party without any qualms. The GOP is now for gay marriage, amnesty, big government only not as big the communist Democrats, GLBT legislation, ignoring the Constitution by passing continuing spending resolutions rather than a budget etc. No the GOP should "consider carefully" who they nominate and ignore the party elite and Rinos that are contributing to the destruction of the Republic.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Catherine, 8/26/2013 7:39:37 AM     (No. 9491508)

Well if the Republicans don´t straighten up, then THEY will hand the next election to the democrats. Not me! I voted, with held nose, for Dole, McCain and Romney. It was blatantly obvious they were not the choice of the majority of us. I will not do so again and before anyone says I will let the Democrats win with my little temper tantrum, yes, I will. And I bet millions of others will too.

So - the answer is for Rove to take a hike and the Republican party become what it´s members want in a candidate. Simple as that.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Trigger2, 8/26/2013 8:16:44 AM     (No. 9491551)

Never ever discount voter fraud. That´s why demonrats refuse to go along with voter ID.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: lylacat, 8/26/2013 9:37:14 AM     (No. 9491691)

The democrats would love to have the Republicans break off and have a third party like they did with Ross Perot. Doing so is what elected Clinton. No third party.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: bigfatslob, 8/26/2013 9:52:16 AM     (No. 9491725)

Why should I care who has the power in this lawless government. Republicans are complicit in the cabal of misfits I don´t need to vote for their candidate if it´s just a version of the left´s candidate. If there´s to be a communist in the WH then why not the real thing not just a closet go along to get along communist like some RINO.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Iraengneer, 8/26/2013 10:10:51 AM     (No. 9491748)

Bah. It wasn´t so much Perot that gave us Clinton, it was Bush ´41, George Herbert Walker Bush, that gave us Clinton. Perot´s warnings largely proved to be correct. It was Bush 41, who ascended into the office after being forced on Reagan by the same sort of "wiser heads" that so fiercely opposed Reagan, who made Clinton a viable and winning candidate. It was Bush ´41 and the "wiser heads" who purged as many Reaganite people and policies as they could. I count them to be *at least* as guilty for the damage to the nation as I do the Clinton´s, or Obama, or Pelosi, or the others.
The lesser of two evils is still evil and I´m out of clothespins to wear into the voting booth. A pox on them and their kind.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: StormCnter, 8/26/2013 10:21:29 AM     (No. 9491760)

Oh, it was Ross Perot, #13, who was on an ego trip, loving the attention he got with his formless, vague platitudes. Gonna get under that hood and fix things. Gonna stop that giant sucking noise from Mexico. Gonna cut down the debt, lower taxes, everyone is going to sacrifice and I´ll tell you how I´ll do it as soon as I figure it out. Enough people fell for that snakeoil to throw the election to Clinton. I will never understand sensible people casting a vote for H. Ross Perot, Jr., who never wanted to actually get elected and had the bejeebers scared out of him when it appeared he might have a shot.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: mutant geezer, 8/26/2013 12:01:48 PM     (No. 9491960)

We don´t need a third party, we need a second party

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Reply 15 - Posted by: brownshoepogue, 8/26/2013 12:17:57 PM     (No. 9492006)

The growing momentum for a third party is a result of the rudderless drift of the current and recent past RINO leadership.
RINO supporters, IMO, your concern should not be with heretofore loyal Republicans who held their noses and voted for the "good" of the party. I think those days of expecting clear thinking conservatives to repeat that strategy is pretty much a memory.
Place blame and your anger where it rightfully belongs. Not on your fellow citizens, but on the RINOs! They have divided the party and destroyed the very principles it and RR espoused.
Either the gop turns right, or they lose. pretty simple. OBTW: I concur with #7 and 8.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: woodsman, 8/26/2013 12:43:59 PM     (No. 9492073)

I concur with #13 - Perot was right about that huge sucking sound which is why we no longer have a manufacturing base - "compassionate conservatism" gave us Bill Clinton

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Bohallx, 8/26/2013 6:17:10 PM     (No. 9492619)

let me begin with this ~ American industry is greater and ever, and is incredibly efficient. That´s why they don´t need employees ~ the jobs are simply nonexistent disposed of by improvements in mechanization, automation, computerization, robotics and improved work methods.

Now, a third party ~ not statistically viable. You gotta get 50% + 1 vote to win in our ´first past the post single member district election district system´.

That factor creates two major parties nearly equal in size ~

If you don´t like the Republican party the way it is CUT OFF the RNC and create another governing party. If the 50 state parties agree they´ll sign up with you and dump Preibus.

Oh, another thing, we have well over 100 major political parties in this country ~ state by state by state ~ which is one of the reasons 3rd party efforts are so pitiful. It´s not enough to say bad things about the dinosaurs running the national party ~ you gotta´ nail the varmints running the state parties too!

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