The far right has gotten into a dangerous habit (well, many habits but we’ll focus on one for now). Those who claim to be guardians of conservative purity assume what they advocate is popular. Therefore, the explanations for failing to get what they want must be betrayal or cowardice by their party, lies by the media, or inarticulateness. They imagine if they speak in shrill tones and hammer the same message over and over again they will prevail — provided of course they are not betrayed, undermined and hobbled by their own elected leaders and the devious vast left-wing conspiracy.
At the end of this article there is a link to her other artricle The Myth of the Nanny State. Click on it and read it before you decide she is a phony conservative. I agree with the Nanny State article but find myself up in the air about the other. I hope she is not right, but fear that she is.
Ms. Rubin is entirely correct. The blinders that the far right wears led to the primary loss of two great candidates and the nomination of a weak one, Sharon Angle, to run against Harry Reid. One small example of the far right´s inflexibility leading to a crash and burn. A government shutdown now would wipe out all of our chances of gain in ´14 and even ´16.
This morning we find an article showing collaboration between financial supporters of the enshrined, severely conservative etch a sketch darling of the status quo Rove luving losers guild. And now, predictably, is posted a sneering, condescending beltway spin regarding those political unsophisticates who actually want to present an opposition to what is happening on a daily basis from this regime. They just don´t understand the brilliance offered on a daily basis by the enlightened liberal republicans ( all six of them).
It’s only when go along to get along Bush/Rove/Rockfeller/Romney republicans are honest with themselves and their colleagues that they can assess the plausibility and wisdom of their proposals and devise a strategy for obtaining the desired result. Otherwise it’s a dishonest charade and political suicide. ( the last paragraph, more or less).
The right insists a shutdown of the government is the way to go, concocts a misleading poll to show that it is so, and then declares that the two parties are standing in the way of what they and the “people” want. ~ Jennifer Rubin
Sen. Mike Lee is rejecting the argument that Republicans intend to shut down the federal government over efforts to defund Obamacare. The Utah Republican told a town hall meeting on Thursday night that talk of such a shutdown is a “false narrative based on an absolute lie,” Politico reported. “I need you to help communicate a message, a message to defeat a false narrative based on an absolute lie that has been perpetuated by the political ruling class elite in Washington, D.C., that’s been dutifully reported by an all-too-willing-to-comply media, and that lie that the effort to avoid funding Obamacare is an effort to shut down the government … It’s a darned lie and I reject it,” he said. ~ http://www.lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=749246
I consider myself a member of the political right, but I´ll be dadgum if I will ever NOT vote because I don´t like a particular Repub. candidate´s position on certain issues. The alternative is so much worse, as we can now all attest.
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Bad Dog, 8/25/2013 8:25:04 AM (No. 9490072)
Ms. Rubin fails to identify any ´´conservative´´ who is advocating government shutdown. That´s because there aren´t any. Oh sure, some have pointed out that such a ´shutdown´´ would not result in the instant disintegration of the planet, and in fact has been done many times in the past with absolutely no long-lasting disastrous consequences. But the conservatives are not the ones who could do that, even if they did try.
Our House of Reps hasthe constitutional power of the purse.... they have the contractual obligation to control what gets spent with our forced-voluntary tax money.
The descent of the Republican Party can be traced back in history directly to Karl Rove.
Progressive statists, whether left or right, all want the same end result.... hive mentality for us, queen bee power and control status for themselves.
Knock off the labels. "Far Right" is where Republicans of yesteryear resided. As democrats moved all the way left to socialism and communism, the Right (in the silly effort to be "moderate") moved leftward too. This is the Rove bunch. They want us to believe this is the new normal. Was Reagan "far right"? He got a good % of democrats to vote for him. It appears a lot of people here have a listening problem. Sen. Lee and other Republicans have stated that they will fund everything BUT funds for Obamacare. P.S. It is Sunday, our gov´t. has been shut down since friday..oh the pain !!
# 4 - no one is pushing for a gov´t shutdown--not providing funding for obamacare but for ALL other gov´t liabilities (not descretionary spending) is the mantra. Rubin´s been hanging onto the DC establishment/elites for all her info. It´s her opinion, not facts, that she is pushing--for whom, Boehner, Ryan, Cantor, McCain, Graham??????? Rubin´s snarky articles about Sen. Cruz, Gov. Palin, Sen. Paul and Lee speak loudly about her convictions--and they are not Conservative!
To read JR, is to laugh! I thought the President could put up some serious "Straw Men" but she´s giving him a serious run. In this case, it´s blaming the Republicans for funding the entire government but not Obamacare and thus shutting it down. Jennifer Baby, Congress decides how money is spent. They are refusing to spend it on Obamacare. The President can either accept it or refuse and thus shut the Government that the Republicans have fully funded down only over the unpopular Obamacare.
The more you decentralize power through Federalism, the less relevant you make thee WaPo and JR. Thus, the woman doth protest too much.
All political entities are pushing opinion and rumor to sway the uncommitted to their way of thinking. But the conservative, less government, more truth, less invasion of privacy people in America will not be labeled by anyone. We are for everyone getting fair treatment. If shutting down the government is necessary to rid us of this horrendous health bill, it is well worth it.
#4, is it just slightly possible that anyone (including Rubin) can have a policy disagreement with any of those you mentioned and still be a conservative? It´s not only possible, it´s a fact. We should refuse to accept the proposition that all who consider themselves to be conservatives must embrace or reject exactly the same politicians for exactly the same reasons as any other conservative. We are not clones or stamped out, cookie-cut, assembly line lock-steppers, so should take pride in developing independent opinions.
The ONLY people pushing a government shut-down are democrats, and they will not do it. The House should fund everything except obamacare and force the Senate to accept that funding or shut down the government. The democrats will NOT shut it down, they will cave.
Unfortunately, we only have a few republicans that can see exactly what will happen.
So disgusted that once again the Left is telling the Right what it should think. The government shut-down was effective, it resulted in Welfare reform. Once again the Left and the cowardly media is clouding the truth with the propaganda spin.
We are not talking about "politics as usual" in 2013, we are talking about the attempt to survive the Demonrats plan to collapse the economy.
If anyone needs any proof that Jen Rubin is correct, then he or she need look no farther than this thread for confirmation. The Republicans are pretty fragmented on a national scale right now. On the plus side, there´s plenty of success at the state level.
All Republicans in Congress should have the same message: democrats passed Obamacare without a single Republican vote. We will fund every aspect of gov´t. except Obamacare. Tell the democrats, you passed it now you figure out a way to fund it.
I am really tired of the narrative that I have to vote the way Team GOP leaders want so that Team Dem (Team Socialist) does not win. Baloney. I am part of Team America. Call me all the names you want, but I will no longer vote for leftist lite candidates.
As conservatives, we have to stop using the term RINO, and face the reality that they are real Republicans as the party exists today, and that the party has left us.
Either the GOP offers a candidate that exhibits BEHAVIOR I agree with, or I don´t vote for them. I do not care if Team GOP beats Team Dem, or vice versa, if Team America loses either way. The "vote GOP so Dems don´t win" argument no longer works for me.
Team GOP can look elsewhere for a cheerleader. I quit.
#25´s idea is a good one, except telling Democrats to find a way to fund Obamacare. No, no, no - Obamacare should be put to death, simply because that is what is planned by this regime for many of us.
The poor who can´t afford health insurance can always be cared for in creative ways, but killing the world´s best healthcare system will result in regressive care. If you are 60 or 70, you should understand that the regime doesn´t want you around.
#11 and 26...I just wonder if many people like you, who would stay home and not vote, are truly proud of electing a person like Obama? Yes a lack of a vote allows majority votes to count. If you folks are expecting a candidate to bow down and kiss your behind 100% before you vote then God help this country. It is why a man like Obama got elected.
I would rather have a mediocre President who is faithful to the Constitution than have an incompetent Anti-American Muslim President. What about you?
Doofus Rubin running off at the mouth again. What a surprise? Anyone notice whenever an establishment R lefty scribbles something, the same gaggle of posters rally round nodding approvingly w/high fives? Anyway Rubin is an R shill who understands nothing of either principled conservatism or libertarianism. These are attitudes and convictions about natural law, family unit, precedent and tradition, hierarchy, order; among other values and virtues; which has nothing to do w/republicanism. Edmund Burke was a conservative; Willard Romney is a republican. Doubt any of his water carriers know the difference.
#29 - save your self-righteousness for someone else. As I have posted here many times before, I have voted for the R in every election since I became eligible to vote in 1980. Obama wasn´t elected because of me. That is not, however, a promise to continue to vote for the R as I have gotten incredibly tired of the sanctimonious ones who revile me and blame me at the same time.
Hey #29, the core reason Obama got elected was because of the buffoonish and feckless eight year presidency of George Bush, who deflated and enraged the voters w/his incompetence. The stay at home cliché is an ignorant slander as is the voter fraud canard both advanced by Romney´s water carriers in order to deflect attention from their colossally inept candidate. Suggest a dose of reality.
Delaware is the most reliably Democrat voting state in the nation ~
There were no viable Republican candidates for Senator. Anyone who thinks so has blinders on.
BTW, next time you folks who think a Republican could have won the open Delaware senate seat see Karl Rove tell him there just aren´t enough of his kind and his gay buddies to swing that vote ~ even if all of them moved there. Just does not compute.
So, fine, #28/29. You´re angry and you´re not going to take it anymore. I can tell you´re prepared to do something other than staying home. But, what? Blustering and blubbering and namecalling at anyone who doesn´t agree is really productive, isn´t it? So, enjoy it when the Dems win again because you wrote in a candidate or voted one of those obscure alternative parties or, maybe, you will be mightily pleased when the Dem wins instead of the (to you) less than perfect GOP candidate.
#10 ~ no, the last time the ´shut down the gub´mnt´ trick was used it resulted in WELFARE REFORM.
Besides it took place over a weekend where nobody noticed, and Bill Clinton was even more popular than Obama ~ but HE CAVED as will Goober Mugabe ~ they all cave. Democrats can´t take not having the money to spend for any time at all.
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