Women and children can be seen lying in the rubble as well as an apparent missile that caused the alleged attack on Wednesday, which according to the opposition, has killed more than a thousand. A UN team is already in Syria but only has permission to visit specific locations. [Snip] Chemical weapons experts have agreed some kind of chemical attack took place, but are unsure whether it was caused by a nerve agent. US President Barack Obama said the alleged use of chemical weapons was "a big event of grave concern," as Britain accused Damascus of unleashing the weapons and
Comments: ITV (Independent Television News) is a lot more respectable than CNN-CBS-ABC-MSNBC, etc.
"A big event of grave concern" - careless choice of words. A "big event" sounds more like a rock concert or a major election, not the deaths of 1300-plus people. And "grave concern"? You bet. This big event is going to mean a lot of digging.
"Verified", and what difference does that make? The US will do nothing, not even to deliver the small arms promised - which are not what is needed. The US cannot be relied upon to back up its words. No surprise.
I resist pointing this out because of the tragic death of innocents including women and children. But even though there is proof of this crime, the question of who is responsible will remain unsolved.
We have learned that in that Islamic culture, sacrifice of one´s own family for radical beliefs is not uncommon. The party making the charge could have done this to blame it on the other party. What a sorry piece of the world those Muslims have made for themselves.
While the gov. of Syria is certainly capable of using chemical attacks, I don´t trust the rebels not to stage something also. The fact that a putatively independent UN team is only allowed access to selected locations makes me even more suspicious that neither side can be trusted to be telling the truth.
If it was caused by a nerve agent then the bodies of those killed by the agent ought to have enough residual agent on them to at least make those handling the bodies sick. Nobody seems to be taking special care in handling the bodies. And kicking a nerve gas shell around in the street, even though it is spent, seems like a suicidal thing to do. Nerve gas would point to Assad, but other poisonous chemical agents could likely be obtained by the rebels. So the people responsible for the attack remain unknown. Who would benefit most by the perception that Assad crossed Obama´s red line?
#9, the bodies of hundreds of cats and dogs are being collected, reportedly for examination. The rebels probably do not have access to autopsy facilities, but reports say three victims of the attack have been smuggled into Jordan so their blood and urine can be checked.
Gen Georges Sada, a general is Saddam´s air force came to our church and said he absolutely knew there were WMDs in Iraq and personally watched them loaded on huge civilian airplanes which had their seats removed. They all went to Syria. Also, others who have been in Iraq as well as the people who watched on tv saw that the Iraqis had atropine med kits on them when captured just in case the WMDs were released. The WMDs were not bogus as the media said. And Bush did a poor job of explaining all of it. Thank you Karl Rove for believing this was all so mundane, it did not deserve an explanation.
We learned from the Democrats that since 2003 no Arab dictator supporting Islamic terror could possible have WMDs. Democrats are honest and well-intentioned, so this must be true. Bush lied, Bush lied and Bush lied.
And if al-Qaeda ever gets its hands on the bio and nuclear WMDs that according to those honest and well-intentioned Democrats cannot possibly exist, just remember that, in the words of President Gutsy Call´s famous mentor, America´s chickens will be coming home to roost.
When Ambassador Stevens and the Seals needed help Obama fiddled, so to speak. Now when civil war fatalities occur in Syria the Won suddenly grows a pair of balls. It appears that Obama´s hypocrisy knows no bounds, as Doc Holliday said in the flick Tombstone?
There´s still no proof. Experts examining the photo´s have speculated that chlorine gas is more likely than a nerve agent, which points the finger at the rebels.
A big event of grave concern is the reentry into Syria of US trained rebel forces. Le Figaro reports they are being led by US, Israeli and Jordanian commandos. 2 units of 300 have entered Syria. If true we have boots on the ground, unauthorized boots.
FLAHSBACK: "We will find the perpetrators of the attack on our Embassy in Benghazi and bring them to justice." (paraphrase, but accurate).
And exactly what "justice" has been meted out, especially in light of the fact that the Benghazi investigators have, as of yesterday, I believe, been pulled out of the Middle East?
Just as "Present Voter" has cut-and-run from any hard decision, he will cut and run from taking responsibility for anything that will be done viz Syria. He doesn´t have the cojones. For God´s sake, look at that photo of him on his bike with that hat, if nothing else. All he needs is to wear a Speedoo.
Gratuitous ad hominem attacks aside, this POTUS won´t make a single move that isn´t made for him and for which he cannot say, "I was given this plan of action by our Military leaders and I´m going to play Spades now."
I shudder to think what the Middle East will look like by the time al-Obama leaves office. The place will be teeming with nukes, chemical and biological weapons, and radical Islamic regimes, all on Israel´s doorstep. Perhaps that is what he wants.
At the risk of sounding like an uncaring troglodyte, at this point, I do not want to see any U.S. support for EITHER side in this conflict. In Egypt we supported the overthrow of a U.S.-friendly dictator because of the way he treated his people. We accepted the replacement of the dictator by the Muslim Brotherhood. The result was a government that quickly devolved into an anti-American fundamentalist Islamic regime. In Libya, using the same populist arguments, we threw the might of U.S air power into the goal of overthrowing an unfriendly but reasonably harmless Moammar Gadhafi. The result was a Libya controlled by Al-Qaeda. Now, in Syria, our two awful choices are allowing Assad to remain in power or supporting the rebels who want to replace him with another Al-Qaeda regime. My recommendation ... stand back and watch.
The reason the WMD knowledge was downplayed was to prevent their location from becoming widespread news and allowing every terrorist in that region to swarm in and pick one up.
That´s not to say they still couldn´t be found through word of mouth. But the media standing right next to where they had just been discovered and broadcasting it for the world to see, verifies the location.
There were suitcases of weaponized chemical agents found in Iraq and at least one of those discoveries made the news in late 2004. Not long after, that article disappeared.
Naturally, as others have posted, the majority of the WMD left Iraq prior to kickoff. Perhaps Saddam was hoping for asylum in Syria at a later date and this was a down payment? Who knows?
One thing that has been discussed by myself and several friends (all of us, veterans) is the lack of ´bodily fluids´ present in the pictures and video, post attack.
Some of this video was blurred out, but the point is, you don´t go into an area after a chemical attack without seeing a lot of bodily fluid from the nose, mouth, ears and other orifices.
There´s no vomit, no blood...nothing. Perhaps the chlorine gas was used but still there should be some type of bodily fluid present.
I´m not saying it didn´t happen. Something obviously did. But exactly what, is still very uncertain.
#24, it is Islamic law that the deceased be bathed and any wounds sewn up and not displayed to the mourners. The mortuary workers then use some embalming processes to prevent the body from leaking fluids as it is laid out for viewing. Apparently, all this is paid for by the Islamic state.
The pictures are staged. I am a physician and those people are not dead. It is Pallywood trying to draw us into war. Those photos are staged so Obama will draw us into this war where both sides hate us
Poster 9, It will depend on what type of agent was employed. G Types are evaporative, volatile and non persistent. V-Types are persistent and will still be detectable and lethal. Either way, any poor soul murdered by either will exhibit tell tale pathology that will prove that the Red Line has been crossed.
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