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Like Obama, Ted Cruz uses
brilliant rhetoric to sell a bad idea

Washington Examiner [DC], by Byron York

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Posted By:Pluperfect, 8/23/2013 6:36:31 AM

In recent weeks, some liberal commentators have taken to calling Ted Cruz a demagogue. They concede the freshman Republican senator from Texas is smart as hell. He´s an impressive speaker. An imposing debater. For those reasons, many liberals see Cruz as dangerous, pointing especially to his campaign for a completely unworkable proposal to defund Obamacare.(Snip)Acknowledging that Republicans don´t have the votes to defund the president´s health care law, Cruz essentially seeks to create a wave of public outrage that would force Congress to go along with the small number of Republicans behind the defunding initiative.If that doesn´t work, Cruz proposes


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Muguy, 8/23/2013 6:45:47 AM     (No. 9487190)

I like Byron York. That said, why in hell does he not support at least going down fighting against this massive government take over of our lives?

Why aren´t ALL republicans against this big government grab for power?

This is going to separate the "sheep from the goats" in my view, and the goats in this case are the "republicans in name only" who just meekly go along with Obama thinking they are going to get re-elected by not upsetting the apple cart.

THIS issue is going to speak volumes when people go to vote, and it ought to fire up the much maligned tea party types to challenge the entrenched politicians who don´t seem to have the moral courage to fight this.

I Cruz with Ted!

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Hank Reardon, 8/23/2013 6:47:59 AM     (No. 9487192)

And the bad idea is ... ?

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Reply 3 - Posted by: beca, 8/23/2013 6:49:25 AM     (No. 9487194)

i like york too...usually...not on this one!!!!

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Reply 4 - Posted by: lonestarm3, 8/23/2013 6:52:31 AM     (No. 9487201)

As usual the progressive wing of the "republican" party is mounting a coordinated attack, with the progressive "democrats" on the left to discredit a legitimate conservative who has a good chance of rallying americans who might just understand the importance of the constitution.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Blackeagle, 8/23/2013 6:55:05 AM     (No. 9487206)

Why do folks call it ´defunding´ when it´s never been funded before?

Recall when Obamacare passed in conference, the CBO claimed it would generate a surplus from all the new revenue sources for the first ten years.

I always thought that if (A) the Supreme Court didn´t end Obamacare, and (B) we didn´t get rid of Obama in 2012, the fallback Plan C was to not appropriate additional monies to pay for the massive budget shortfalls Obamacare was sure to achieve. Turns out I was mistaken - we cannot even carry out ´´Plan C´´ as it seems to be politically too risky for some. The 2010 ´shellacking´ was seemingly just an optical illusion.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Keekng, 8/23/2013 7:00:47 AM     (No. 9487216)

Thought I was losing it until I read #1 and #3. Not Yorks usual common sense.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Starlady, 8/23/2013 7:02:32 AM     (No. 9487217)

Byron must be getting a kickback from the RNC on this issue. He has been spouting the inside the beltway mantra for the past several weeks. We get your point Byron, you stand with the rest of the cowards in DC.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Pluperfect, 8/23/2013 7:09:03 AM     (No. 9487224)

No sensible person is against taking down Obamacare, but this particular effort is doomed. There are other, better methods to achieve the same goal. I know Cruz says he´s against a shutdown, but he is a smart man and knows a shutdown will be the result. And, to no benefit for anyone except Obama and his supporters. Ask Newt Gingrich how well the shutdown on his watch worked for his side of the aisle. Yes, I know it was Clinton who shut things down and it will be Obama who does it this time, but the political fallout will be on us, delaying our goal of getting rid of every part of Obamacare that can be removed. Boehner has a better plan, simply using the funding in the ceiling debate. That´s not the end game, just the opening move.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: ROLFnader, 8/23/2013 7:14:11 AM     (No. 9487231)

It´s Sarah Palin´s fault that we´re burdened with Ted Cruz- right? Thought so.....

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Periwinkel, 8/23/2013 7:17:57 AM     (No. 9487233)

Not only is Byron taking the cowardly expedient way out on this, he just plain doesn´t like Ted Cruz. I wonder how Mr. York feels about Chris Christie.

Byron York, long the darling of conservatives, seems to be going down the path chosen by Peggy Noonan five years ago.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: jfodoch, 8/23/2013 7:25:57 AM     (No. 9487247)

On "Greta" last night Cruz said he wants to defund urkelcare, and it can be easily done without cutting off funding for ANY other government program -- was this comment accurate? Is it really this simple?

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Reply 12 - Posted by: ruready?, 8/23/2013 7:27:33 AM     (No. 9487250)

York is using the Washington Examiner (two bits??) to sell a bad idea.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Fiesta del sol, 8/23/2013 7:32:12 AM     (No. 9487255)

Agree with #1&2.

Why are the pundits and GOP leadership assuming no democrats will vote to defund Obamacare? Make the Dems defend Obamacare to the American people. Right now, I don´t see elected Democrats on TV defending this. I see liberal media hacks defending it.

I have had it with elected Republicans giving up before the fight even started. If this country is going down, it´s already started. We might as well put up some kind of a fight to save it. Don´t we at least owe that much to our founding fathers?

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Reply 14 - Posted by: cdunnrun, 8/23/2013 7:51:43 AM     (No. 9487285)

Byron. Obamacare is a bad idea. Just ask Congress!

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Reply 15 - Posted by: nonsense, 8/23/2013 7:56:45 AM     (No. 9487290)

I am puzzled and disappointed by Byron´s "opinions" of late. What happens at those D.C. cocktail parties that is so corrupting? Get out of Boomtown Byron before it is too late to save your soul.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: MattMusson, 8/23/2013 8:08:37 AM     (No. 9487304)

Byron defines a Bad Idea as anything he does not agree with.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Bjnealeigh, 8/23/2013 8:25:08 AM     (No. 9487336)

I believe thes Repubs are either getting paid off or some(NSA) has some very bad dirt on them. I think the whole lot should be throw out of office. They are all a bunch of losers!

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Shells, 8/23/2013 9:15:54 AM     (No. 9487416)

I used to like Byron York.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: nimby, 8/23/2013 9:19:31 AM     (No. 9487426)

Establishment Losers in GOP take note-----(1). He beat the establishment republican in Texas to win the senate seat. (2). You lost us two elections.

And you go after Cruz who is able to rally the crowds? Not hard to choose between Boehner et al and Cruz! Go Cruz, show them how its done.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: enuf8, 8/23/2013 9:32:38 AM     (No. 9487454)

Who threatened York with no more inside info for him to come out with his statements? Has McCain or Graham been on the phone to him, or either Boehner or Cantor?
Obamacare is a total fiasco----the polls taken show that a majority do not want it, have not wanted it and want it totally destroyed.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: curious1, 8/23/2013 9:41:40 AM     (No. 9487479)

So the bulk of the American people want this, but our ´betters´ think it´s a bad idea? Pound sand byron.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: hicokid, 8/23/2013 9:42:06 AM     (No. 9487482)

Cruz was the first to turn the argument around and say that it will be obama shutting the government down if he refuses to sign a continuing resolution. Cruz is one of a few republicans that are willing to take president demagogue on.

Byron, get a haircut.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: spahrkl, 8/23/2013 9:50:59 AM     (No. 9487503)

The Dems, Progressives, Liberals, show their hand when they bombast one of the leading candidates with negative, attacking comments.
We all should recognize that by now.

Cruz frightens them and they attack. Palin
is the example I put forth to fortify my comment.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Lone Star Csar, 8/23/2013 10:40:30 AM     (No. 9487599)

It seems the pundits have decided our problem is that we aren´t "smart" like the Dems.

How many times must it be said? Political calculation works for the progressives (their ideas have no merit) and is always a loss for conservatives. Conservatives succeed when we fight on principle. Our ideas are better and the fight makes people think about them.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: M2, 8/23/2013 10:43:59 AM     (No. 9487608)

Sorry, Byron, not this time:

Of course, Republicans shouldn´t want a candidate to argue bad ideas brilliantly. They should want a candidate to argue good ideas brilliantly. Cruz is off-base about defunding, but that doesn´t mean he could not be an astonishingly effective advocate for good Republican ideas in the future.

Well that´s mighty white of Byron, but I would ask him one question: What is wrong with the idea of defunding Obamacare, blaming a gov´t shutdown on Obama and thinking outside the stifling box of GOP traditionalism? After all, the latter is part of what keeps us slaves.

We do need new blood, stronger GOP pheromones and, for God´s sake, passionate conservative thought. Cruz may be different because he´s brilliant. The rest of the GOP, not so much.

Go for it, Ted.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Susannah, 8/23/2013 10:45:46 AM     (No. 9487609)

Because, #25, a government shutdown won´t be blamed on Obama. Remember whose side the press is on.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: pickle1, 8/23/2013 10:56:13 AM     (No. 9487633)


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Reply 28 - Posted by: jglas, 8/23/2013 11:00:03 AM     (No. 9487640)

If they don´t defund it now it´s here forever. So yes this separates the big government, socialist oriented Republicans from those wishing smaller more constitutional government.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: Wakeupcall, 8/23/2013 11:12:13 AM     (No. 9487662)

When those who actually voted this Obamacare into law opt out of Obamacare you know for certain you are getting the shaft up your you know what.

I have told my senators and congressperson that if they don´t vote to unfund Obamacare I will be working hard to unseat them. I have heard back from only one senator who says he will vote to unfund Obamacare.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Chuzzles, 8/23/2013 11:51:03 AM     (No. 9487724)

Byron York has never been a total conservative. He is a moderate squish with a few conservative leanings when it is comfortable to lean so.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: killerbee, 8/23/2013 12:40:29 PM     (No. 9487805)

I don´t actually like the defunding idea, either, although I really like Cruz. Defunding government nonsense means it´s still hanging over your head, ready to fall when the bureaucrats decide it´s time. That´s not really all that helpful.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: odinsacolyte, 8/23/2013 12:41:06 PM     (No. 9487807)

What liars! It is very simple to repeal Obama care. It is even more simple to starve it of money. Better that than bankrupting us. If the citizens go down government shall soon follow.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Marzon, 8/23/2013 1:09:36 PM     (No. 9487840)

So what if the media blame Republicans for any government shutdown (even though the shutdown would be entirely zippy´s fault). If the media don´t beat them over the head with that they will beat them over the head with something else (war on women, racist, homophobic, etc. etc.) Even when Zippycare crashes and burns, they will say it was because of Republican sabotage.

Here you have an issue where the core of our liberty is at stake, the clock is ticking down, a majority of the voters agree with our position, and many more will once the awfull consequences of the law begin to impact them and you still don´t want to fight! Just because you are afraid of what the LSM is going say about you? How pathetic. What good will it be to win elections if you let this abomination grow like an unoperable tumor on the populace. We will all end up as slaves to the state and it won´t make any difference which side is running the state. Fight it now! Fight it anyway you can and everywhere you can. Fight it until your last breath. Never surrender! Our progeny deserve no less.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: StormCnter, 8/23/2013 1:21:05 PM     (No. 9487859)

Ok, so Cruz´s idea prevails, we fund everything in the budget except Obamacare, the Dem Senate blocks it or Obama vetoes it. Then, the government shuts down for lack of funds. What has been accomplished? A grand gesture resulting in nothing at all, except some chest-beating. Far better to work with some of the other plans that give us a later victory without handing the Dems a campaign whip.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: kanphil, 8/23/2013 2:46:12 PM     (No. 9488007)

Byron, didn[t your mama teach you "can´t never could"? What´s with all these so called conservatives, inside the media and out, who keep telling us what won´t work, but absolutely fail to come up with alternatives?

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Ted Cruz, Invoking Reagan,
Angers GOP Colleagues
but Wins Fans Elsewhere

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Wall Street Journal, by Monica Langley    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/19/2014 8:09:17 AM     Post Reply
WASHINGTON--Rushing to an afternoon vote last month, Sen. Ted Cruz hopped the underground tram to the U.S. Capitol from his office across the street. The Texan planted his black ostrich cowboy boots in the middle of the small subway car without getting so much as a nod from the other senators--Republican or Democrat--amiably chatting or huddled in their seats. Mr. Cruz finds himself standing alone a lot these days. His response to the cold shoulders: "The establishment despised Ronald Reagan" before he became president, "but the people loved him." For the 43-year-old Republican, the Reagan name illuminates his political life´s

Stop dressing so tacky for church
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CNN, by John Blake    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/20/2014 4:40:56 AM     Post Reply
If the Rev. John DeBonville could preach a sermon to lift the souls of churchgoers across America, his message would be simple: Stop dressing so tacky for church. DeBonville has heard about the “come as you are” approach to dressing down for Sunday service, but he says the Sabbath is getting too sloppy. When he scans the pews of churches, DeBonville sees rows of people dressed in their Sunday worst. They saunter into church in baggy shorts, flip-flop sandals, tennis shoes and grubby T-shirts. Some even slide into the pews carrying coffee in plastic foam containers as if they’re going to Starbucks. “It’s like

Clintons celebrate Chelsea’s
pregnancy announcement

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New York Post, by Stephanie Smith    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/19/2014 8:32:52 AM     Post Reply
The Clintons had a busy night of celebrations after Chelsea announced she and husband Marc Mezvinsky are expecting a baby. Bill joined “House of Cards” star Kevin Spacey at the Revlon Rainforest Fund Benefit Concert at Carnegie Hall Thursday, joking of Spacey’s Machiavellian character, “When I was president people accused me of murder all the time, made a show of investigating. Spacey’s president for 15 minutes and he gets away with murder.” Spacey, who sang during the event with Sting, Stephen Stills and James Taylor, also showed off his Johnny Carson impression, taking a swipe at the coverage of Flight

The Growing Financial Disaster of Obamacare
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Power Line, by John Hinderaker    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/19/2014 5:55:20 PM     Post Reply
President Obama asserts that 8 million people have signed up for Obamacare, as though that were something to be proud of. In fact, Obamacare has always been a fiasco from a fiscal perspective–a black hole of subsidies and expanded Medicaid, with largely fictitious mechanisms in place to pay for it. As the number of subsidized participants grows, the disaster gets worse. Charles Blahous explains: Our national discussion…is missing the truly significant story here; what is unfolding before our eyes is a colossal fiscal disaster, poised to haunt legislators and taxpayers for decades to come. It is quite possible that the ACA is

Gospel story of Jesus’ resurrection a
source of deep rifts in Christian religion

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Washington Post, by Kimberley Winston    Original Article
Posted By: NorthernDog- 4/19/2014 10:46:11 PM     Post Reply
“On the third day, he rose again.” That line, from the Nicene Creed, is a foundational statement of Christian belief. It declares that three days after Jesus died on the cross, he was resurrected, a glimmer of the eternal life promised to believers. It’s the heart of the Easter story in seven little words. But how that statement is interpreted is the source of some of the deepest rifts in Christianity — and a stumbling block for some Christians, and more than a few skeptics. Did Jesus literally come back from the dead in a bodily resurrection, as many traditionalist

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