I listen to rap. I grew up listening to rap. Since I was old enough to enjoy music, rap has been one of my favorite genres. It remains so to this day. I´m not just talking about mainstream or party-mix rap. I am talking about hard-core rap, underground rap, and rap performed by artists that nine out of ten rap fans have never heard of. So given that I am a genuine rap aficionado, how can it be that I largely agree with liberals like the late anti-rap activist Delores Tucker and conservatives like Bill O´Reilly who argue that rap is a
This is a silly, nonsensical article about a garbage "art form" that does nobody any good. It glorifies a gangster lifestyle for blacks and allows white boys an opportunity to blast loud profanity from their car stereos in a attempt to shock the older folks.
Gues what kiddies, it´s not shocking, it´s just disgusting and tends to lower our opinions of the younger generation, something you certainly can´t afford, given your already-sunken level of maturity.
Compare the "black music" of the 1960´s, when Rosa Parks was still sitting in the back of the bus, and today, and tell me which generation sounds happier? The black family was together and the songs were mostly about love. Today, they´re about shooting cops and ripping off whitey. That´s what 4 generations of the welfare state get you, the African jungle transplanted to America´s inner-cities.
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Redneck In NY, 8/21/2013 11:38:05 AM (No. 9484248)
I like all music, from classical to rap. I also like the authors take on why one segment of youth are prone to live out the lyrical violence and crime, while another hears it and simply moves on.
However, I believe the answer to the problem was also in the article....2 parent households with stability.
On a humorous note, for all you peeps who couldnt wait to type out how rap sucks and such. You do realize that 50 years ago they said the same thing about Elvis, then the Beatles, then Disco...music styles change, but finger wagging scolds dont seem to.
There is too much money involved for the entertainment industry to stop producing degenerate rap music. A percentage of that money finds its way into liberal Democrat campaign coffers so the liberal and socialist Democrat politicians who run black communities remain silent. It´s just not going to happen, just as a basketball will not roll up hill.
I don´t agree with the author that rap´s negative example affects mostly black kids. Have you listened to the white kids recently? Their dress, language and attitude clearly show the influence of ghetto culture.
75-85 % of rap music purchasers are caucasian. Rap is poetry, there is no singing, but beatmaking is a skill. Rap is no different than an Arnold Schwarzeneggar or Bruce Willis movie, besides the fact that Bruce Willis does not really try to be John McClain (from Die Hard).
Negative Rap is a symptom of a sick society, not the cause.
#6, I respectfully disagree. My grandmother liked Elvis, she didn´t like the way he moved his hips around, she thought it was profane. My mother, who is 84 now, loved the Beatles, with the exception of songs where they screamed. I can still remember "She Loves You" on the stereo when I was a very young kid, which would alternate between that and Tommy Dorsey style tunes. Just no "Revolution". My mom had all the Elvis albums, when she was in her 40s and 50s and on. Her and my sister would alternate buying the albums.
What´s the difference? The Beatles created real music and were real musicians. Elvis was one of the great singers and entertainers. They weren´t profane, they didn´t glorify violence, they could carry a tune, they had real orchestras and instruments, and they weren´t violent themselves.
Any idiot can rhyme, any idiot can come up with garbage lyrics. Try learning how to REALLY play an instrument, including your voice, learn how to make music that takes you to incredible places and fills your mind with amazing images and underscores a positive place in your life and age, and get back to me about how rap music compares on any level with Elvis, The Beatles, Sinatra, or classical music.
With all due respect, Elvis never advocated killing cops in his songs, nor did the Beatles ever refer to their girlfriends as b*tches or "ho´s!!". And disco could NEVER have happened with the dancers strutting the floor with their pants halfway down their thighs.
(C)rap has absolutely NO musical worth whatsoever.
Do you have any idea how many rap/hip hop ´artists´ were raised in 2-parent middle class families in the suburbs? A LOT OF THEM WERE. Those greedy degenerate pigs are deliberately and heartlessly exploiting the most naive vulnerable members of their race.
"The thing about hip-hop today is it´s smart, it´s insightful. The way they can communicate a complex message in a very short space is remarkable." -Barack Hussein Obama
Regardless of Obama´s opinion, "gangsta"/rap/hip-hop is to music what a filthy overflowing cesspool is to a pristine swimming pool. Don´t believe it?...Take the time to read/listen to some of the lyrics.
Yo! Hello out there! Have you celebrated enough of your own birthdays to remember Jack Benny’s bandleader Phil Harris and his huge hit recording of “That’s What I Like About The South?” Here’s just a snippet of it: “Won´t you come with me to Alabamy Let´s go see my dear old mammy She´s frying eggs and broilin´ hammy That´s what I like about the south She´s got back bones and buttered beans Ham hocks and turnip greens You and me in New Oleans And that´s what I like about the south” Not a nasty word in the bunch, so it’s not eligible to be called Rap. It was called entertainment, perfectly suitable even for Grandma to listen. Showbiz has come a long way. Downward.
Comparing *rap to Elvis, the Beatles, etc might work if you turned the volume off and just watched the performance. As Navin Johnson would certainly someone such as #6: "This is *rap and THIS is Shinola!"
As I used to say when my kids first started listening to this tribal cacaphony, " I remember a time when I said that nothing could be worrse than disco-Boy! was I wrong!"
Calling rap a form of music assumes the premise the three feral black thugs that shot the young Australian in the back are just a group of young Americans like the Boy Scouts. I´ve been a musician/singer for over 50 years in all kinds of musical genres from Big Band to Classic Rock with Bluegrass and Country thrown in (my acoustic period). Don´t insult me by calling rap music or poetry. It´s poison to this society and, especially the last generations.
Thanks #11, you kinda made my point in your opening paragraph (but you might nor realize it). See, back then millions of detractors based their opinion of Elvis and the Beatles on his hips and their screams (and longish hair). They didn´t hear "Love me Tender" or "She loves you".
They sat around clicking their collective tongues, wishing for the days of Tommy Dorsey, Vivaldi, and Glenn Miller. There were petition drives to have Elvis banned and the Beatles deported. They held rallys where their albums were smashed and/or burned. But I´m sure I dont need to remind anyone here of those times.
However, I do find it humorous that you same folks who are jumpin ugly on my opinion, might be of the age to remember when society didn´t so readily agree with YOUR music choices. And as far as me comparing rap to Elvis, please re-read my comment, for I never said that. I am compairing attitudes between generations tho.
Oh, and I have learned a musical instrument, and voice as well. I have a little bit of music related accomplishments in my life, including DJ´ing. So to you Sir, I say master a mixing board (studio or portable), then come join me in selling crazy. I´ll buy the first round....
#26, there were always detractors of EVERYTHING. By and large, most people LIKED Elvis, and LIKED the Beatles.
But never mind, you are stuck in your thinking, and there is no changing that.
But I will leave you with one proof point.
If rap music was so great, and on the level of Elvis, Beatles, Sinatra, and Tommy Dorsey, then logic would have it, there would be radio stations in every town specializing in "oldies" rap, you know, the stuff from the 80s and 90s.
In every town of any size, and smaller, there is at least one radio station, if not more, playing 50s-70s stuff. And quite frankly, they would not exist if there were not some younger audience members as well. Go onto youtube and look at music played by the Beatles, and early Stones, and Clapton, and Elvis and the Raspberries, and Motown artists and on and on. Look at what the young people are commenting on" "I wish they made music like this now", and "I was born in the wrong time!"--all by teens and 20somethings. Guess what, they´re listening to the oldies too because, it´s freaking music.
I WAS the target audience when Rap first got big in the 1980s. So its not an age thing, or a parent thing. Obviously, there are some people who are easily entertained (Rap Music, Torture Porn movies, smoking dope) that there is a market for it.
But as you can see from the replies on this thread, most people don´t buy it as real music.
As a final example, grab yourself a copy of the Billboard Top 100 from 1966 (just google it) and then compare to 2006. Tell me which songs play more on the radio.
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