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What if the president lied to us?
Salon, by David Sirota

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Posted By:StormCnter, 8/18/2013 5:37:24 PM

With the latest major revelation about National Security Agency surveillance, there’s a huge taboo question that needs to be put out on the table: Has President Obama been deliberately lying about the NSA, or have his statements just been repeatedly “wrong”? After Barton Gellman’s blockbuster story today about the NSA breaking “privacy rules or overstepp(ing) its legal authority thousands of times each year,” the Washington Post published an attendant commentary with a headline declaring the president was merely “wrong” in last week suggesting that the NSA wasn’t “actually abusing” its legal authority. The implication is that when Obama made that comment

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: JonR, 8/18/2013 5:50:29 PM     (No. 9479980)

This president has lied about virtually everything since he was elected! This is a given. The reason it is not driven home is because any criticism of this president is called racist by his supporters and news media!

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Udanja99, 8/18/2013 5:59:20 PM     (No. 9479986)

C´mon, David. This president´s entire life is a lie. A better question to ask would be, "What if the president told the truth"?

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Reply 3 - Posted by: rustycfc, 8/18/2013 6:10:49 PM     (No. 9480000)

he gets a pass on all his lies,this lie is no different.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: 6079 Smith, W, 8/18/2013 6:20:59 PM     (No. 9480014)

What if? WHAT IF?!

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Reply 5 - Posted by: dman, 8/18/2013 6:22:32 PM     (No. 9480016)

Et tu, Salon? Are the libs finally waking up? Will they finally realize that they will be among the first to be "silenced" once the Emperor consolidates his power?

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Reply 6 - Posted by: BaseballFan, 8/18/2013 6:23:42 PM     (No. 9480018)

What if David Sirota found a clue?
Sheesh.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: earlybird, 8/18/2013 6:27:57 PM     (No. 9480023)

Sirota, writing for liberal Salon, ties himself in knots over this dilemma, but comes out with the probability that Obie has lied to us - and that if he hasn´t, he is grossly incompetent. Take your pick.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: jt26, 8/18/2013 6:28:27 PM     (No. 9480025)

David Sirota could not find his own backside with both hands. Typical clueless, libtard Obama fanboy.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: keekng, 8/18/2013 6:34:01 PM     (No. 9480037)

OMG, is that headline serious?

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Reply 10 - Posted by: oh-heck, 8/18/2013 6:38:03 PM     (No. 9480044)

What if the MSM loudly reported every single time he lied to the American People? They wouldn´t have time for anything else.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: woofwoofwoof, 8/18/2013 6:43:30 PM     (No. 9480051)

I´m sure if Obama lied to us it was just a teleprompter malfunction and somehow Bush´s fault, but if it really happened, oh my, I think I would just get the vapors.

But really, even if it happened, it would never be reported by the MSM. They´ve only managed to ignore it every day since the first day of his 2008 campaign.

So the real question is, what if the MSM told the truth to us? But I´m not much worried about that happening, either.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Italiano, 8/18/2013 6:45:43 PM     (No. 9480056)

I am confident that the Republican "leadership" will get right on it.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: bluebonnet, 8/18/2013 6:47:09 PM     (No. 9480058)

Is this another "Dog Bites Man" story?
David, David, David! What difference, at this point, does it make?

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Reply 14 - Posted by: glcinpdx, 8/18/2013 6:48:10 PM     (No. 9480059)

What if David Sirota removed his head from NerObama´s Backside to notice that the Emperor has no clothes?

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Reply 15 - Posted by: MisterDickens, 8/18/2013 6:49:14 PM     (No. 9480062)

Sirota´s reaction is the same as if someone told Hillary, today in 2013, that the Horn Dog had cheated on her and her response was "really? REALLY? he´s cheated on me??"

Sirota, you are a fool but you aren´t fooling me.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: LComStaff, 8/18/2013 6:56:22 PM     (No. 9480074)

FYI - This article was published last Friday morning.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: nonsense, 8/18/2013 7:07:22 PM     (No. 9480082)

Doesn´t Mr. Sirota´s article make you feel older and so much wiser than the O. yuts?

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Reply 18 - Posted by: ida Lou Pino, 8/18/2013 7:12:46 PM     (No. 9480087)

Oooh! Oooh! Oooh!

The drip. drip, drip of doubt is seeping into the delusional world of the ultraleftist moonbats - - at least those few who still have some function left in their brains.

Could the messiah actually be the devil? Oh, no - - the sleepless nights - - the agonizing rethinking.

Hey - - this is fun!

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Reply 19 - Posted by: pucky1, 8/18/2013 7:15:13 PM     (No. 9480090)

A President who does not know what is going on is as useless as a gelding at a stud farm.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: otronome, 8/18/2013 7:18:41 PM     (No. 9480093)

Obamboozler

1. Lying?

2. Stupid?

3. Both?

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Reply 21 - Posted by: clayusmcret, 8/18/2013 7:29:08 PM     (No. 9480108)

What the NSA is doing is the equivalent of our local forensics unit coming into our house every hour of every day and vacuuming the carpet and searching out fingerprints. Now, they´re not going to analyze any of the vacuum residue and they´re not going to run the fingerprints against any databases. They´re just going to hold it all.....in case there´s an indication that someone else might have been there. Of course, they cannot know that without watching our house number and comparing who might have come or go on our street. Then, they just happen to have that entire collected residue. No harm, no foul, no warrant, no Constitution.

The argument "If you´ve done nothing wrong you have nothing to fear" doesn´t stop law enforcement from needing a person or site specific warrant. Why is our electronic profile or history any different? We have a constitution. It´s about time the government started acting like it.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: rayscain, 8/18/2013 7:37:39 PM     (No. 9480118)

Agenda 21 right around the corner folks!

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Reply 23 - Posted by: rlcnutter, 8/18/2013 7:40:59 PM     (No. 9480122)

I love that "if." But I´ll play along. If the President lied to us, then it´s just another day in the neighborhood.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 8/18/2013 8:01:23 PM     (No. 9480133)

This headline- I don´t really know what to call it that would be appropriate. It is far beyond jejune. Naive? Childish? Youthful? Inexperienced? Immature? Green? Raw? It is such a fine example of "Stupid" it could be the perfect example of the word "Idiotic" in Webster´s. If this dummy has not figured out Øbama has been lying to the American people since the name Øbama first came up on the media screens---I don´t really know what to make of it. Speechless, I suppose.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: JediJerry, 8/18/2013 8:10:05 PM     (No. 9480142)

Is He lying? In reality he simply mis-spoke. No lie intended. All depends on what the definition of "is", is, yer ´on´er.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: nevernaught, 8/18/2013 9:14:16 PM     (No. 9480224)

The day Obiewan stops lying to us is the day he gets lockjaw.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: NorthernDog, 8/18/2013 9:19:58 PM     (No. 9480232)

FTA: I, of course, don’t buy that at all. I don’t buy that a constitutional lawyer and legal scholar didn’t know that the FISA court is secret

Here is where Sirota has an out. Obama is neither a constitutional lawyer nor a legal scholar, so maybe it´s ´OK´ that he lies every time his purple lips move.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: Dixie, 8/18/2013 9:51:15 PM     (No. 9480266)

Reading the comments so far, I must conclude that NO ONE thinks Salon is being ironic, NO ONE thinks this article is some sort of parody.

Sadly, I don´t either. Hard as it is to imagine, Salon is probably thunderstruck at this long-standing and obvious habit of the pResident.

I wouldn´t be surprised if they come out with some far-fetched, implausible explanation tomorrow, since to let this article stand would surely crumble their world.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: hamrman, 8/18/2013 9:57:01 PM     (No. 9480272)

The real question is why he did...

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Reply 30 - Posted by: texaspast, 8/18/2013 10:44:25 PM     (No. 9480308)

What if the earth really ISN´T flat???

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Crosscut, 8/19/2013 2:50:58 AM     (No. 9480398)

Obama was a pathological liar even before he was president. He´s only gotten worse.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: steveW, 8/19/2013 3:42:45 AM     (No. 9480414)

What´s worse than a president whose entire presidency is a lie? Journalists who eagerly and intentionally parrot said president´s lies for 5 years then pretend - oh shock! - they´ve been had. Their infantile hypocrisy almost makes Obama look honest in comparison.



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Reply 33 - Posted by: JimJr, 8/19/2013 11:41:18 AM     (No. 9480980)

Here are my questions:

1. Who generally reads Salon?

2. What thoughts will this evoke in them?

3. Will they (can they?) understand this statement of Mr. Sirota?

"But just as it is utterly absurd to claim Director of National Intelligence James Clapper didn’t lie before Congress (and some reporters thankfully admitted that truth in the open), it has now become almost silly to insinuate or assume that the president hasn’t also been lying. Why? Because if that’s true — if indeed he hasn’t been deliberately lying — then it means he has been dangerously, irresponsibly and negligently ignorant of not only the government he runs, but also of the news breaking around him."
(Italics in the original.)

My answer to the question Mr Sirota poses is YES. Obama is BOTH deliberately lying AND dangerously, irresponsibly and negligently ignorant.

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According to a report via BuzzFeed’s Evan McMorris-Santoro, President Barack Obama requested the opportunity to address the nation in prime time on the major broadcast networks on Tuesday night to announce that the Affordable Care Act had reached 7 million enrollees. Those networks did not, however, accommodate the White House’s request. “Three sources familiar with the request confirmed the White House asked for the prime time slot in their effort both to emphasize a bright moment following the challenging roll out and, more important, to try to reintroduce the country to a law that remains unpopular,”

Eric Holder defends using Justice
Department airplane for 27 personal trips

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Washington Examiner (DC), by Joel Gehrke    Original Article
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Attorney General Eric Holder disputed a Government Accountability Office report on his use of Justice Department airplanes for personal trips, saying it overstated the number of trips he took and failed to recognize that some trips were job-related. "My staff keeps telling me to take it easy, you know, well, this is one that gets me," Holder told Rep. Frank Wolf, R-Va., during a House Appropriations subcommittee hearing. "There was this notion that we´ve taken -- I think it was described as hundreds of personal trips. That was wrong. GAO counted flights, not round trips. And we looked at it


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