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Is this the future of fracking?
A town divided, celebrity protesters
and wild health scares... And after
15 years of bitter battling about*

Daily Mail [UK], by Daniel Bates, Olga Craig

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Posted By:Attercliffe, 8/11/2013 6:51:44 AM

For two years, Tammy Manning and her family have been the faces of the anti-fracking movement in America. From the sleepy backwater of Franklin Forks, just ten miles from the New York county line in rural Pennsylvania, blonde and photogenic Tammy and her children have been feted by television companies and environmentalists alike: portrayed as the ‘perfect’ example of how one family’s lives have been blighted by a greedy energy company whose hunger for profit had put their health at serious risk. Pop stars, actors and politicians, from Yoko Ono, Sean Lennon and Susan Sarandon to Mahatma Gandhi’s grandson

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*poisoned water, they´ve finally accepted drilling is NOT the problem

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Keekng, 8/11/2013 7:16:20 AM     (No. 9468299)

Why are quantities given in "British speak"?
This article sounds like a hit piece to scare the Brits. A cigarette butt thrown from a car could blow up the house? Come on, Daily Mail, even you are not that stupid.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: lancelink1, 8/11/2013 7:39:12 AM     (No. 9468332)

In Western New York they have fracking and wind turbine controversies. One guy has No-Fracking, No-wind and No-Coal lawn signs proudly displayed in his front yard. I´ve always wanted to stop and ask him where he thought the power came from out of the outlet thingy on the wall where he plugs his satellite dish into.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: jinx, 8/11/2013 7:41:35 AM     (No. 9468334)

Why do "pop" stars think we care what they think. We don´t. Most of them are high school drop outs who do drugs and give the example of promiscuous sex as being ok to our kids. They just want to promote Socialism for reasons unknown to me since they all made their millions because of capitalism.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: secondtimelucky, 8/11/2013 7:51:29 AM     (No. 9468359)

FTA: One resident, Ray Kemble, claimed that he had a dead goose thrown on his driveway as a warning he was a ‘dead duck’.

One of our favorite new programs - Longmire - had a recent episode that involved ´´water that you could set on fire´´. I´m so fracking tired of messages...

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Periwinkel, 8/11/2013 8:01:44 AM     (No. 9468362)

Remember the name of the family...in a year or so, we will learn it was all a huge hoax. Too often this is true.

Poor Mannin family probably believe these stars are their friends. When the controversy passes, it will be "Mannings who?"

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Reply 6 - Posted by: strike3, 8/11/2013 8:02:16 AM     (No. 9468364)

If the drilling company had just paid the couple the 60 grand for their house in the beginning, both sides would be happier.

I wouldn´t believe the government reports either. A well 130 feet from the house is bound to disturb the gases in the earth even if it isn´t responsible for the arsenic in the water.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: FenwayFrank, 8/11/2013 8:20:44 AM     (No. 9468398)

Wow. Susan Sarandon and Yoko Ono are saving the planet from the evils of fracking. If they want to sound intelligent, they may as well just break wind.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Grant Hodges, 8/11/2013 8:42:23 AM     (No. 9468428)

There is a real need for people to seek information about fracking before making up their minds.

These articles detailing protests against fracking almost all feature an error in understanding. They talk about "blasting".

There is no "blasting". That went out with shooting wells with nitroglycerin.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: envirodude, 8/11/2013 8:50:13 AM     (No. 9468442)

http://fracfocus.org/ you learn most of the chemicals used in fracking. Some are proprietary, but used in such small quantities, their impact would be negligible.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: uno, 8/11/2013 10:00:45 AM     (No. 9468541)

Once again we see celebs who can´t figure out how to wind a watch without personal assistants, personal trainers, house-keepers, chauffeurs, consultants and psychiatrists, who´s lives consist of shuffling through the revolving door of divorce courts, bankruptcy courts, custody courts, criminal courts and rehab centers, yet they are only too happy to travel anywhere to preach to the average, hard-working, over-taxed payer how to live, what to eat, how to raise yer kids, what kind of energy we need, what to drive, who to vote for and even what´s good for the entire friggin planet! What´s next, the Galaxy??
Yikes! The hypocrisy is staggering!

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Reply 11 - Posted by: enuf8, 8/11/2013 10:12:37 AM     (No. 9468561)

If any of this were close to being true---all the residents of the Lone Star State should be dead. Especially those in the Permian Basin and the Houston/Beaumont areas.

Those complaining about oil, gas and coal extraction should not be allowed any product or privileges associated with any of these 3 products.
Winter----harvest your trees or burn your furniture.
Summer--sweat it out while the rest of us have A/C.


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Reply 12 - Posted by: Islander, 8/11/2013 10:27:33 AM     (No. 9468582)

Reality Check. Texas has 150,000+ currently producing oil wells and 50,000+ gas well, a majority of which have been fracked at least one. I think we know how to do it.
I live atop the Barnett Shale. The horizontal run of one gas well is about 150 yards east and 8000 feet below my house, another is about twice that distance to the west and at the same depth (no, I don´t get any royalties).
And, yes, I get my water from a well -- 240 feet down in the Paluxy aquifer. Gas well at 8,000 feet, water well at 240 feet. No, there is no gas in my water. Yes, I have it assayed periodically for contaminants.
BUT ... actually ... I don´t care how long stupid Yankees hold up drilling up there, it just makes Texas richer.



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Reply 13 - Posted by: StormCnter, 8/11/2013 10:36:24 AM     (No. 9468591)

The old gas wells on our ranch are VERY deep and vertically drilled. However, as #12 stated, some fracking was done on a few of them to check or access a different strata.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: f64, 8/11/2013 10:37:12 AM     (No. 9468593)

FTA - "blonde and photogenic Tammy"?! Photogenic?? Well maybe by Brit standards or when compared to Sarandon or Ono.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: TulsaTowner, 8/11/2013 10:37:57 AM     (No. 9468594)

I, too, was pretty annoyed by the propaganda in the last "Longmire" episode. I hope it doesn´t portend more such nonsense in what seems to be a fun series.

By the way, there are essentially no oil or gas wells inside the city limits of Tulsa, as they have been outlawed since the early boom years, at least 70 years, and there has certainly been no "fracking" in Tulsa (though much of the technology was developed here). Yet, one can drill a deep water well anywhere in the city and it is not unlikely for it to produce gas also. Mother Nature put it there. It did not result from "fracking".

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Reply 16 - Posted by: web, 8/11/2013 10:39:22 AM     (No. 9468598)

The only reason Yoko, Sean, and Susan are there is get publicity. They are all too dumb to understand any of the issues. Fracking takes place in wells at thousands of feet. Water comes from completely different strata, at hundreds of feet. Yoko and Sean are both pathetic, no-talent jokes, who think they are "artists." Julian got all the musical talent from his father. Yoko just got his money.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: FLCracker, 8/11/2013 11:27:13 AM     (No. 9468662)

And #16, none of these "celebrities" seem to be making a fuss about fracking here in Texas.

I wonder why that is. Are the wilds of Texas just too far away for them, or do they think Texas deserves all their perceived horrors that come from fracking?

Either way, you just keep thinking that way, you "Beautiful" People, you.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: StormCnter, 8/11/2013 11:46:14 AM     (No. 9468687)

Aw, #17, it´s just so HOT in Texas in August and, besides, there might be a rattler behind that prickly pear.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: FLCracker, 8/11/2013 11:51:43 AM     (No. 9468698)

Dang, #18! Have you been to Florida in August? And we have at least as many, if not more, rattlesnakes!

That doesn´t seem to keep them away from Miami.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: jeffkinnh, 8/11/2013 12:06:08 PM     (No. 9468720)

This is the legacy of the foundations of the environmental movement. Blind ignorance and faulty logic expressed by famous people who "care" more than we do. This is why we can´t use safe and clean nuclear power to meet our energy needs. They deny all the tests and the facts that the problems that they are having are unrelated to fracking.

I´m not saying that fracking will never be the source of a problem, just that it is very unlikely and proof should come before condemnation. Some people are just stupid.

Now the industrialization issues, well that can be a legitimate complaint. No omelets without breaking the eggs though. If a community doesn´t want industry, fine. BUT, no special aid to them when they don´t have the money for various things. You don´t get to turn up your nose at industry and then steal money from others who do welcome industry and profit from it. If you want to be deindustrialized and poor, enjoy yourselves.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 8/11/2013 12:47:30 PM     (No. 9468767)

I rank Sean Lennon right up there with Chelsea Clinton. Talentless and living off mommy and daddy`s reputation.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: birddog, 8/11/2013 12:53:55 PM     (No. 9468775)

Methane is a shallow gas, a true "fossil fuel" from decomposing organic matter, you´ll see the pipes capturing it at your local landfill. There are several impermeable layers between the surface and the Marcellus zone, if there wasn´t the water would have long ago run down to it and the entrapped Gas would have risen out of it. I´m a former Drilling Fluids engineer that worked deep Oil/Gas in Texas/Okla/Louisiana in the early ´80s, also own our Old Family Farm in central NY and would like to drill there but many of my neighbors(mainly folks from the "City" who bought old farms as vacation homes) are fighting tooth and nail against it. "Da Truf ain´t in´m"

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Reply 23 - Posted by: watercheetah, 8/11/2013 1:16:47 PM     (No. 9468799)

Hold on! You mean 3 of our greatest scientists, Yoko & Sean Lennon, and Susan Sarandon, all say it´s the fault of fracking, versus some obscure government agency saying it´s not?

How dare they contradict the greatest minds Hollywood has on tap! I´m going to sit down and watch Rocky Horror Picture Show again as a protest!

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 8/11/2013 4:18:28 PM     (No. 9468993)

I guess celebrities don´t care about "profit?" Wow, what saints they must be. /s

Fracking occurs so far below the water table it isn´t even funny. These lo-fo morons are so dense it´s shocking. It reminds me of the Karen Silkwood uranium insertion story of the 70´s, or the DDT scam of the 80s. All designed to cause stoopid people to look to big brother for safety and security, while the "victims" raked in millions of dollars in insurance and book rights.

I love telling liberals they´re going to die, whether they like it, or not. As a Christian, I´m ready for death, and look forward to God´s timing for it. As atheists, they fear death like nothing else, and sell their souls to Satan in an effort to avoid it, accepting ANY amount of slavery to bring it about. Of course, we know the end result of their Faustian bargain.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: MissileMan742, 8/11/2013 8:41:51 PM     (No. 9469175)

Visit Cumberland Head, NY and ask the locals about Sulfur Water, and water containing so much natural gas, it fizzes. All 100% natural, not a drill rig in sight.

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and allowed $500 MILLION of weapons to reach
al-Qaeda militants, reveals damning report

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Daily Mail [UK], by David Martosko    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/22/2014 7:02:40 PM     Post Reply
The Citizens Commission on Benghazi, a self-selected group of former top military officers, CIA insiders and think-tankers, declared Tuesday in Washington that a seven-month review of the deadly 2012 terrorist attack has determined that it could have been prevented – if the U.S. hadn´t been helping to arm al-Qaeda militias throughout Libya a year earlier. ´The United States switched sides in the war on terror with what we did in Libya, knowingly facilitating the provision of weapons to known al-Qaeda militias and figures,´ Clare Lopez, a member of the commission and a former CIA officer, told MailOnline. She blamed the Obama administration

You´re on the clock:
Doctors rush patients out the door

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USA Today*, by Roni Caryn Rabin    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/21/2014 4:35:59 AM     Post Reply
Joan Eisenstodt didn´t have a stopwatch when she went to see an ear, nose and throat specialist recently, but she is certain the physician was not in the exam room with her for more than three or four minutes. "He looked up my nose, said it was inflamed, told me to see the nurse for a prescription and was gone," said the 66-year-old Washington, D.C., consultant, who was suffering from an acute sinus infection. When she started protesting the doctor´s choice of medication, "He just cut me off totally," she said. "I´ve never been in and out from a visit faster." These days,

The Increasing Desperation of Democrats
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National Review Online, by John Fund    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/21/2014 5:19:02 AM     Post Reply
Harry Reid isn’t backing down from his claim that rancher Cliven Bundy’s supporters are “domestic terrorists.” It’s astonishing rhetoric given the White House’s characterization of the mass shooting by a genuine terrorist, Major Nidal Hasan, who killed 13 Americans at the Fort Hood Army base after yelling “Allahu Akbar!” (God is great.) Rather than labeling Hasan’s actions “domestic terrorism,” the Obama administration is prosecuting him for having committed “workplace violence.” Democratic rhetoric is become ever more desperate and overheated as we approach the November midterm elections. Last week, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said that GOP positions on immigration were motivated by


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