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Rafael Cruz: ‘Obamacare Is
Going to Destroy the Elderly’

National Review Online, by Katrina Trinko

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Posted By:MissMolly, 8/11/2013 5:28:02 AM

Ames, Iowa – Rafael Cruz brought down the house. Speaking at The Family Leader Summit today, the father of Ted Cruz delivered an energetic speech that earned him one of the longest standing ovations of the day. “Our lives are under attack,” Cruz said of Obamacare. “We already saw what is happening with abortion. The same thing is happening at the other end with Obamacare. Obamacare is going to destroy the elderly by denying care, by even perhaps denying treatment of people [with] catastrophic sickness.” He also addressed religious liberty, saying “socialism requires that government becomes your god.”


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Attercliffe, 8/11/2013 6:20:36 AM     (No. 9468241)

Cruz definitely gets it. The elderly and, frequently, those of any age with a chronic debilitating health problem, will find themselves without access to certain procedures and tests. (For just two examples, see any search function in British online media and look for mammograms, Pap smears, kidney dialysis. Search also on locations for MRI, ultrasound and other scans, which are difficult and usually require a long waiting list to access.)

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Reply 2 - Posted by: pineledger, 8/11/2013 6:31:05 AM     (No. 9468249)

But he said we could keep our doctors and our plans if we liked them.


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Reply 3 - Posted by: Attercliffe, 8/11/2013 6:31:56 AM     (No. 9468251)

Sorry for additional post: please also beware of "Aging in Place" programs, blossoming in numerous communities all over the country, aimed at those older folks who are not cared for by their families for one reason or another. If you read about such programs, you´ll find they mean checks (inspections) of your home situation to make sure you´re living in what the community health worker considers a safe and healthy environment. This could exclude pets, for instance, (elderly people fall over things so easily, they cannot care for pets due to arthritis or whatever, the pet food is an expense they don´t need, etc.).

What it does include is "caring and helpful" neighbors who will "keep an eye" on you. I know most of my neighbors and they´re a bit too nosy for my liking. Furthermore, they don´t all think the way I do and I don´t want them reporting on me. I´m afraid to check the training criteria.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: bubby, 8/11/2013 7:00:05 AM     (No. 9468277)

#1 is right on but didn´t the elderly vote in droves for obama? So the elderly continue to vote for Democrats and by doing so are shortening their own lives. No more expensive hip, knee replacements, pace makers, cancer treatments etc. Just take a pain pill. Nothing like an old fool I guess.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Rinktum, 8/11/2013 7:04:08 AM     (No. 9468281)

The simple truth about Obamacare told in a clear and concise manner could be a winner for Republicans but, they seem to be in hibernation mode. Anyone who speaks against it, must be marginalized because truth must be hidden by this administration.

They know if they can get Obamacare fully implemented, the rest of their evil plans will be easy. Make people dependent upon government for their healthcare and you have the ability to play god with people´s lives. You are the arbitrator of who lives and who dies. No longer will a doctor decide the care you receive, it will be all about meeting criteria set up by bureaucrats. They will decide what procedures, if any, you receive. Coding will be the key.

Obamacare is the first step in single payer which leads ultimately to population control a more benign means to an end than starvation and work camps. Genocide has always been the monster behind communism. This will be no different. They believe they are just smarter this time around. Make no mistake, their goal is to get rid of undesirables (conservatives/Christians), and they would round us up if they thought they could get away with it.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Trigger2, 8/11/2013 7:15:50 AM     (No. 9468296)

The unborn are being murdered; soon the elderly will be murdered. This is all a great plan to moan about how the U.S. doesn´t have enough people to keep the economy going so the U.S. will have to import more muzzies and indigents. Next thing you know the U.S. will be a muzzie nation. Look what´s already happening in Great Britain and Europe.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: PoliticalJunky, 8/11/2013 7:58:20 AM     (No. 9468361)

I don´t think the elderly voted in droves for Obama. I know I stood in line for two hours to vote against him.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: BarryNo, 8/11/2013 8:41:26 AM     (No. 9468425)

Considering the Elderly are more likely to vote Republican, it´s understandable. I heard that if only voters over thirty had been eligible to vote, Romney would have won in a landslide.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: billkoch, 8/11/2013 8:50:51 AM     (No. 9468443)

Rafael Cruz tells it like it is. o lies about ocare, as does Pelosi, biden, and the entire o administration. They are afraid to tell the truth because it is a scary future for seniors.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: planetgeo, 8/11/2013 9:35:42 AM     (No. 9468517)

Maybe it should be renamed "Obamadon´tcare". And really, isn´t that the end game for anyone (and any country) that believes that killing innocent lives for any reason at all is a right, a "choice"? Babies, old people...are just so inconvenient.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: MDConservative, 8/11/2013 10:18:01 AM     (No. 9468571)

Three-quarters of one´s medical costs come in the last year of life. The object is to keep costs down to make it all "affordable." It´s the legal imposition of that duty to die that Richard Lamm spoke of years ago. It´s the American "Final Solution." Red pill or blue pill...take some of the actual pain, too.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Chuzzles, 8/11/2013 10:26:55 AM     (No. 9468581)

The oldsters here on this forum are very intelligent people and I value their input and experience. But I am sorry to remind them that organizations like the AARP were totally behind Obama and Obamacare. There are a lot of elderly who were bamboozled into voting for their own destruction by the lying democrats.

Unfortunately the lofo syndrome extends into segments of the elderly population in this Country also.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: StormCnter, 8/11/2013 10:38:07 AM     (No. 9468595)

#12, I hope and assume the older folks on this forum learned long ago what a sham and a scam is AARP. As you said, we are intelligent.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: bluehouse, 8/11/2013 10:43:12 AM     (No. 9468602)

Check the British press or google "Liverpool Care Pathway." The British already have their death panels setup. Doctors and hospitals make extra money to get rid of the old and most vulnerable by withholding food and water till they die.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Dixie, 8/11/2013 10:49:59 AM     (No. 9468617)

The MUST READS link is POINTING to the WRONG article.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: LouD, 8/11/2013 11:15:24 AM     (No. 9468648)

Well, as a 79 year old, I don´t intend to die for quite a while just to thwart Obama and his minions.
As for the AARPU, I saw what they were long ago, and dropped them. Does anyone remember how they were in opposition to Part D when the dims were against it? Now they sing a different tune. Also, check out the reviews on their health insurance they push. Never saw so many negative reviews on anything, except maybe the Ford Edsel.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Woodabela, 8/11/2013 11:24:56 AM     (No. 9468660)

#8; Between Eric Holder and electronic vote tabulation, Romney never had a chance.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: bugger, 8/11/2013 11:58:22 AM     (No. 9468710)

Rafael Cruz is an amazing man, only one such as him could have raised Ted. I cannot find video of this speech, does anyone here at Lucianne know if it exists and where? Thank you!!

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Mazeman, 8/11/2013 11:58:29 AM     (No. 9468711)

#4 The elderly were actually LESS likely to vote for Obama than those who are younger. When broken down by age, there was an inverse relationship between age and D voters.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: starboard, 8/11/2013 12:35:25 PM     (No. 9468757)

Not only will Obamacare try to destroy the elderly, it will be the Youth who will suffer the most. With Obamacare they will have little chance to get ahead in life. This voting block will have nothing but The Impossible Dream staring back at them.
This is the group the Republicans need to target and go after with everything they have. They should set up town hall style meetings on every campus and inspire the young to vote for personal achievement and individual success and against government dependency and takeover of their future. They have to be bold not pastel in their message. Show statistics on a flip chart, demonstrate with videos and graphics how difficult their life will be going forward with a socialist style government. We need a charismatic figure who can touch this group with a sense of honest integrity and fearlessness. This is where The Republicans win in 2016.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: JHHolliday, 8/11/2013 12:55:06 PM     (No. 9468777)

Most of the ´elderly´ I know (I am 71) despise Obama. There will always be fools of any age and you can be sure that the old fools voted for the Kenyan. Traditionally though we elders trend Republican and conservative.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Butch59, 8/11/2013 1:43:20 PM     (No. 9468831)

If anyone would a little bit of time and effort to check, the AARP was founded, not to "serve the needs of the elderly" but to sell insurance. That´s what they do. And they try to hide that fact as cleverly as they can. So it´s no surprise that they would support Obozocare. Anything to make a buck.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Butch59, 8/11/2013 1:44:09 PM     (No. 9468832)


That is "take a little bit of time"

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Reply 24 - Posted by: august9, 8/11/2013 2:04:20 PM     (No. 9468854)

I don´t recall seeing any statistics showing the elderly vote, (republican/democrat) from the 2012 election.

However, I do recall the ABSENCE of any obamacare opposition from senior groups while the monstrosity was being debated in congress.

And, let´s not forget the oft repeated theory that seniors are the most prolific voting block --- yet, their silence was deafening!

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Reply 25 - Posted by: globalwarmer, 8/11/2013 2:16:10 PM     (No. 9468862)

Don´t worry. The AARP will be looking out for us.....Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: JoniTx, 8/11/2013 2:26:22 PM     (No. 9468871)

Here´s a link to the coverage from the Des Moines Register: (Titled, "Rafael Cruz: U.S. edges toward socialism")


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Reply 27 - Posted by: noddy, 8/11/2013 4:54:52 PM     (No. 9469027)

This reminds me of the movie, Logan´s Run. So when Obama Medical Center mandates we have chips inserted (similar to pets), there is likely to be more information on them than we are told.

´´In the domed city, men and women live in a society where you can only live until you are 30-years old (due to population control and limited resources), the people have two choices: They can either take part in a extermination ceremony called ´Carousel´ where they are promised a rebirth or they can go on the run and escape to outside the domed city.´´

The majority of us, the Elderly Rafael Cruz refers to in his excellent speech, have worked hard all our lives and saved via social security and personally. Some or most of our personal savings disappeared thanks to Wall Street and the government while the fat cats got fatter. And we are supposed to believe they have our best interests at heart? I am concerned on three levels as probably most of you are: myself, my children in the forties, and my grandchildren. We need to take the Senate and we need to expose and ´´bring to justice´´ all the fraudulent democrats.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: tukaram, 8/11/2013 5:42:09 PM     (No. 9469061)

Obamacare doesn´t apply to the elderly, Medicare does.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: Lonestar Jack, 8/11/2013 9:24:10 PM     (No. 9469198)

Senator Ted === learn from your dad and keep harping on this theme.

Bird legs Mr half and half is not looking out for the elderly.

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Cybercast News Service, by Susan Jones    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/22/2014 10:53:27 AM     Post Reply
It may not be tomorrow, but Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) says "something will happen" to force a Nevada rancher to obey a court order to stop grazing his cattle on federal land and pay his grazing fees. "It´s obvious that you can´t just walk away from this," Reid said in an April 18 interview with a Nevada´s KSNV-TV News 3 program “What’s Your Point?” "You can´t have a law that is -- we´re a nation of laws, not of men and women," he said. (Video) Reid noted that most cattlemen pay their taxes, pay their fees, and follow

38 Republican lawmakers put aside differences
for lawsuit challenging legality of Obamacare

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Washington Times, by Dave Boyer    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/22/2014 5:20:31 AM     Post Reply
Thirty-eight Republican lawmakers, including such unlikely bedfellows as John McCain of Arizona and Ted Cruz of Texas, have joined to support a lawsuit challenging the legality of the Affordable Care Act and accusing the president of repeatedly ignoring the law he signed for political reasons. The lawmakers have signed onto a legal brief in support of a lawsuit filed by Sen. Ron Johnson, the Wisconsin Republican who is asking a federal court to overturn Obamacare’s special treatment for members of Congress and their staffs. “The unlawful executive action at issue in this case is not an isolated incident,” the brief

A rancher´s armed battle against the US
government is standard libertarian fare

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Guardian [UK], by Kieran Suckling    Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly- 4/21/2014 8:10:33 AM     Post Reply
Perhaps the most remarkable feature of American democracy is the magnificent estate of public land that it reserved from the very beginning for the use of all citizens, rich or poor. There is nothing like it in the democracies of Europe, which came into being with nations already carved up into private fiefdoms. The Great Idea that hundreds of millions of acres of forests, deserts, rivers and prairies should be owned by, and managed for, the public interest has had a profound and lasting influence on American culture. But not everyone has accepted it. Cliven Bundy’s armed standoff with the National Park

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