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Were children smarter a century
ago? Test for eighth graders
in Kentucky dated 1912 ignites
debate over kids´ intelligence today

Daily Mail (UK), by Staff

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Posted By:JoniTx, 7/31/2013 5:14:03 AM

A general examination to test eighth grade students in Kentucky´s Bullitt County school system in 1912 has stumped some adults and ignited a debate over the intelligence of children today. The arithmetic, geography, civil government, physiology, grammar and history questions range from ´What is a personal pronoun?´ to ´Who first discovered Lawrence River?´ and ´Define Cerebrum´. Posted on Lew Rockwell, the type-written test has promoted some adults to try and answer the questions, and caused some parents to critique the U.S. school system.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: sinic, 7/31/2013 5:24:09 AM     (No. 9450634)

Now public schools are nothing more than indoctrination camps with a heavy focus on babysitting, diversity, peace, love, save the planet, save the whales, and...of course, an extra heavy dose socialism good, capitalism bad. Learning anything that enables one to become a productive, intelligent member of society that appreciates and understands the principles of what the United States of America was founded on was jettisoned from the curriculum long ago.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Aunt Agnes, 7/31/2013 5:42:23 AM     (No. 9450639)

When I was helping some relatives go through my great-grandmother´s things after she died, we came across the exam she had to take to get her teacher´s certificate. She taught school for a few years before marrying in the early 1900´s. I was amazed by the questions that were on it - especially the math problems. I´m a college graduate & I don´t think I could have passed it!

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Reply 3 - Posted by: PoliticalJunky, 7/31/2013 5:50:19 AM     (No. 9450644)

Not smarter. Better taught, no unions to save bad teachers. Also, better prepared by their parents, almost always two. In short, the Puritan culture still dominated.
The first victims of the Alinsky tactic were the people of New England. We were blue noses, snobs, racists, intolerant and supercilius. Mayflower descendants were defensive and apologetic for, we knew not what. Sound familiar? I saw the start of this.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: PChristopher, 7/31/2013 5:51:00 AM     (No. 9450645)

Off the top of my head, I have to question the author´s understanding of the difference between intelligence and education. A person can have an incredible ability to learn but still not know that 2 plus 2 equals four...unless you´re a progressive, in which case it equals 5 and the taxpayer picks up the full amount. The test was kind of fun.


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Reply 5 - Posted by: Uno, 7/31/2013 5:58:34 AM     (No. 9450651)

And they could read cursive, but didn´t speak it...

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Reply 6 - Posted by: JAN, 7/31/2013 7:14:01 AM     (No. 9450713)

No public school teachers could come close to passing the test.

Too busy propagandizing.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: ROLFnader, 7/31/2013 7:32:49 AM     (No. 9450740)

I remember reading an article a few years back ( either Tom Sowell or Walter Williams) about a high school diploma of 1949 providing a more valuable education than today´s college degree.
Interesting article , especially what seems to be a consensus that memorization is a waste of time. All you need today is a smart phone- until the battery´s dead, anyway.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: disasterman, 7/31/2013 8:56:15 AM     (No. 9450878)

They were not necessarily smarter, it was parenting and a different set of values that made the difference. The education is available, despite the school systems, for anyone willing to put in the time and effort. Dr. Benjamin Carson is the best example I can think of.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: ru4us, 7/31/2013 9:21:06 AM     (No. 9450932)

Oh dear! It has to be: the questions are irrelevant to this present era; we now have more truth; or that the slow kids were forced out into the fields to work. It can´t be the social engineering of Methods (eliminating that evil memorization and emphasizing critical thinking) has been a failure or the botched implementation of integration.
Nor can it be the genetic deterioration of intelligence through a century of mutations. As my wise, elderly sister reminds,"this generation of handlers thinks they are the smartest people who have ever lived".


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Reply 10 - Posted by: mc squared, 7/31/2013 9:37:00 AM     (No. 9450972)

Allow me to amplify on #1´s post.

The current public school system is designed to keep children off the street and out of the cops way (as much as possible), teach them basic earning skills to fill menial jobs, and be in the undesirable position of voting ´Progressive´ all their lives.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: snakeoil, 7/31/2013 9:53:44 AM     (No. 9450994)

Question 3 under Geography is really dumb. "Tell me what you know..." If you say you know nothing you should receive full credit. Kids aren´t any dumber or more intelligent. The incentive to learn is gone. Why? Television. And the end of corporeal punishment. Spare the rod and spoil the child.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: mossley, 7/31/2013 10:17:29 AM     (No. 9451024)

Well, they knew the difference between the words ´´educated´´ and ´´intelligence´´, that´s for sure.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: craige, 7/31/2013 10:17:50 AM     (No. 9451025)

The test itself spells door as ´dodr´.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: ru4us, 7/31/2013 10:17:57 AM     (No. 9451027)

I have a feeling the questions are intended to inform a caring and diligent teacher as to how successful was the teaching. Even the "Tell me what you know" questions will reveal if learning has taken place. As a dying Chinaman once told me: "If there is no learning, there has been no teaching".

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Reply 15 - Posted by: StuartX, 7/31/2013 10:34:40 AM     (No. 9451069)

Last year High School kids in Phoenix could not find AZ on a map and they did not know what the Capital was.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: BigGeorgeTX, 7/31/2013 10:37:22 AM     (No. 9451074)

Yes, but did they know homosexuality was a lifestyle choice, white males are responsible for all the world´s problems, Islam is the religion of peace and carbon emissions are destroying the planet? Huh? Huh?

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Shimmer128, 7/31/2013 10:45:07 AM     (No. 9451092)

I´m not even sure the typical home educated eighth grade student could pass this, but I know that they´d do a WHOLE lot better than the average public schooled child.
In the government indoctrination centers, the natural love of learning is drummed out of a child. It´s not only the unions, which are a big problem, but also callous teachers some times, but mainly the way they have to teach in order to "teach" crowds of unruly children. They lecture, they speak, children must remain silent for the most part. Children want/need to get out and handle life, in their hands!
grrrrr, I could go on and on. But I´ll get off the soapbox for now.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: tomanderson61, 7/31/2013 11:04:56 AM     (No. 9451126)

A few comments.

Last time one of these "tests" circulated the various news agencies, back then it was supposedly something out of the 1800s America, it was found to be faked.

2nd, remember that all these tests were based on knowledge just freshly taught and studied. That is completely different than an adult looking at the material and either never studied it, or studied it 10-40 years ago.

I was a real whiz at geometry for example. Something about it not only did I enjoy, but was very natural for me. I remember that there was not one quiz, test or homework activity that I did not get less than a 95% score. I also guarantee you if given one of the tests I scored so well on in 1977 I would know few answers, and on some, probably not even understand the questions.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Philly_Patriot, 7/31/2013 11:56:31 AM     (No. 9451257)

Someone I know born one hundred years ago had showed me their 8th grade text book on agronomy by Luther Burbank. It was more advanced than my ivy league Biology course.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: JoniTx, 7/31/2013 2:31:36 PM     (No. 9451584)

There are some wonderful comments made on this same article, which was posted later, and is now closed.

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