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The Zimmerman Verdict
Wall Street Journal, by Editorial

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Posted By:Desert Fox, 7/14/2013 10:00:41 PM

An American criminal defendant is presumed to be innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, and that´s the standard to keep in mind when considering the jury´s not guilty verdict Saturday for George Zimmerman in the murder of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin. The case has been fraught with racial politics from the start, but inside the Sanford, Florida courtroom, the jurors had to wrestle with the standard that is a hallmark of American justice. No one but Mr. Zimmerman knows what happened that early evening in 2012 when he followed Martin, an unfamiliar young, African-American male

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: 4justice, 7/14/2013 11:11:02 PM     (No. 9424293)

WSJ, Zimmerman did NOT fail to heed police advice to stop following Martin! Martin came around the building and confronted GZ. Besides, there is no legal obligation for him to stay put in the first place. All he did was get out of the vehicle, probably to stretch his legs.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: smcchk, 7/14/2013 11:42:13 PM     (No. 9424318)

It is amazing to me that Mr. Zimmerman is always viewed at fault because he didn´t meekly go home. George Zimmerman was doing nothing wrong!

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Reply 3 - Posted by: dr fate, 7/14/2013 11:50:30 PM     (No. 9424326)

What would you expect from the WSJ? One of the leading proponents for amnesty and perpetual suck-ups to illegal invaders.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: lawdoc, 7/15/2013 12:03:13 AM     (No. 9424347)

"no one knows what happened that night." Well, the jurors have a pretty good picture of it. There was a lot of evidence: eyewitnesses, ear witnesses, forensics, clothing, photos, etc. GZ did not pursue. He said OK when told he needn´t pursue. During the 4 minutes, it was TM that, instead of going home and staying alive, went back to take care of the "creepy azz cracker." This verdict was not just a "barely not proved beyond reasonable doubt." It was a resounding "innocent." Quit pandering by minimizing the no guilty verdict.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Hybernicus, 7/15/2013 12:50:54 AM     (No. 9424394)

"for George Zimmerman in the murder of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin." TM was not murdered. He was killed.

The neighborhood had a watch to report and reduce crime. George Zimmerman was doing his job, reporting and keeping an eye on TM. TM could have just gone to his destination instead of assaulting and battering GZ. GZ acted in self defense. Had guns been "controlled", GZ would have been murdered and the crime problem in the neighborhood been perpetuated.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Crashnburn, 7/15/2013 1:11:42 AM     (No. 9424408)

There was no murder. George Zimmerman killed Travon Martin in self defense.

As GZ is Hispanic, not known for their speed, and TM was Black, known for their speed, and GZ was carring a gun, I see no way GZ could have caught TM, then forced TM to break his nose, and bash his head in the sidewalk before GZ shot TM.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: BcdErick, 7/15/2013 1:35:04 AM     (No. 9424414)

A terrible essay starting with the lie in first sentence that TM was murdered. GZ did nothing wrong. GZ didn´t make any mistakes that I see. Whoever wrote this nonsense deserves their "dream" job at MSNBC.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Butch, 7/15/2013 2:11:11 AM     (No. 9424427)

I agree with all the posters above.

The press just won´t stop lying about George Zimmerman. If I hear one more word about his "poor judgment" on that pitch-black rainy night, I´m gonna´ scream. Even the National Review´s editors are in on it.

What exactly did George Zimmerman do that showed poor judgment? He called the police and reported suspicious activity. There is no evidence that he followed Trayvon Martin after "the police" (actually a police dispatcher who is not a sworn officer) told him that he didn´t need to follow Mr. Martin. In fact, the dispatcher kept asking GZ what Mr. Martin was up to!

Trayvon Martin punked the wrong "creepy-ass cracker" and got himself shot to death that night. The press has been shameless in making this seemingly decent man the Most Hated Man in America, just to pump up the sagging ratings that they so richly deserve.

I hope GZ successfully sues the State of Florida, Barack Obama, MSNBC, the NAAC, and Al Sharpton for $628 million for harassment, slander, malicious prosecution, threats of bodily harm, and a lot more. Justice for George Zimmerman!

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Spidey, 7/15/2013 4:26:56 AM     (No. 9424465)

The other thing these people don´t get is when they name their kids ghetto invented names,they have 2 strikes against them in the game of life before they even enter the batter´s box.It´s probably not fair to name profile but I´ll bet it happens all the time,even in the credit industry.

Why do car insurance companies want to know your zip code before giving you a quote?That´s neighborhood profiling and a risk assessment.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: reilly, 7/15/2013 6:53:53 AM     (No. 9424522)


When is someone going to ask Al Sharpton how Zimmerman acquired his bashed head? Or why the ballistics proved Martin was on top? When? When?


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Reply 11 - Posted by: Jethro bo, 7/15/2013 6:56:02 AM     (No. 9424527)

Does the WSJ really think that St Trayvon was without fault that evening? We have evidence that he was racially profiling G. We know he was using pot )though the judge made sure the jury had no idea that St. Trayvon wasn´t pure as the driven snow). We know he had a criminal record and had worked to get his street creed fighting up to a higher standard. And yet, GZ is assumed to be some crazed racist without his sheets in pursuit of innocents like St. Trayvon. Had Trayvon not been looking for a fight that evening, things would have been different as well.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: tren9, 7/15/2013 6:56:43 AM     (No. 9424529)

This editorial is a bunch of racist anti-Hispanic crap. The WSJ is full of it.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Lawsy0, 7/15/2013 7:14:00 AM     (No. 9424545)

WSJ wandered off the conservative reservation many moons ago.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: dallasdude, 7/15/2013 7:18:35 AM     (No. 9424549)

Some facts about the angel~~~
• Disallowing Martin´s criminal background, including arrests by Miami-Dade school district police for drugs, theft, graffiti and other delinquent behavior. (Martin, in fact, had been suspended from school the week he jumped Zimmerman inside his gated townhouse complex, after police found stolen jewelry and burglary tools inside his backpack.)


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Reply 15 - Posted by: OperaBuff, 7/15/2013 7:30:36 AM     (No. 9424562)

Oh, hooey.
Everyone in this country knows what happened that early evening in 2012 except Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Barack Obama and the WSJ.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: desertcowboy, 7/15/2013 7:45:33 AM     (No. 9424575)

Okay, I read the article and agree with most of the posters above. Why is this a must read?

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Grambo, 7/15/2013 7:53:37 AM     (No. 9424584)

Trayvon Martin was not murdered, he was killed by his intended victim while in the processes of committing felony assault.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: bigfatslob, 7/15/2013 7:57:50 AM     (No. 9424587)

I heard a short interview with Mark Furhman the detective from the OJ trial say, there was no contact until TM approached with open dialog and became the aggressor. The first words was from TM, "do you have a problem" GZ responded "I don´t have a problem". I think the first blow was a surprise sucker punch in GZ nose that knock him down. TM wanted to do a ´polar bear´ (black slang for knocking out whites). The girlfriend´s testimony just about said what TM intentions were. Why was TM phone protected from being evidence.
To clear things up for the WSJ and other propaganda outlets, GZ is not white, TM is not a child, it wasn´t murder but TM was killed, the injuries on GZ could have been fatal if you don´t believe this then your liberal heads are harder than I thought if you could take those blows and call them minimal. I actually heard a liberal woman on a CNN panel say this about GZ injuries. I say to her volunteer to be punched by a six foot teenager and your head pounded into the cement then tell me it´s minimal a feels good. I´ll bet at some point she would wish you had and object available to end the beating to her body.
Trayvon Martin had a choice and made a bad decision on that rainy night. Toe tagged as John Doe is nothing to aspire to accomplish.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: rustycfc, 7/15/2013 7:57:53 AM     (No. 9424588)

if someone was on top of me and punching my nose and slamming my head against the side walk, I would shoot and ask questions later.
I wonder what these protesters would do if they were in the same situation.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: pineledger, 7/15/2013 8:14:52 AM     (No. 9424605)

"Punk" was the accurate descriptive noun.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: PoliticalJunky, 7/15/2013 8:27:53 AM     (No. 9424628)

The irony is that Zimmerman is a Democrat, voted for Obama, befriended a black family by visiting regularly and being a father figure to the boys, and was partially black himself.
Not to worry. Facts be darned, Zimmerman according to the liberals, is white, conservative, a wanna be cop, intolerant murderer. That´s their story and they are sticking with it.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: NorthernDog, 7/15/2013 8:29:20 AM     (No. 9424631)

Despite any shortcomings this is one of the better editorials I have read. Most start out ´´An unarmed black child walking home from the candy store was gunned-down...´´´

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Rinktum, 7/15/2013 8:29:57 AM     (No. 9424632)

I bet these editors would cry like a baby if they were confronted on a dark night by a six foot black dude wearing a hoodie with a bad attitude.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Travis Mcgee, 7/15/2013 8:38:42 AM     (No. 9424648)

I find it interesting that all those saying there was no justice for Trayvon, a not guilty verdict, are not explicitly blaming the all female jury.

Certainly implicit in their disapproval of the verdict is an obvious belief that the jury was too stupid to understand the evidence presented during the trial. Where is the feminist outrage over this portrayal of the jury?

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Udanja99, 7/15/2013 8:38:52 AM     (No. 9424649)

It also needs to be pointed out repeatedly that Tayvon told GZ , "you gonna die tonight". What else was GZ supposed to do when TM started slamming his head onto the sidewalk? Had he not defended himself with his legal gun, he would probably have been killed in short order. A few more blows on the sidewalk would have done it. I congratulate GZ for doing exactly what he needed to do to survive.

Trayvon got what he deserved. At the rate he was committing crimes and playing the gangsta, he was already heading for an early death before he ever confronted GZ. Lesson for gangsta thugs - be careful who you assault. That creepy azz cracker just may have a (now legal in all 50 states) CC weapon.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: CEP, 7/15/2013 8:50:03 AM     (No. 9424670)

"...There is no doubt that many law-abiding black men are eyed suspiciously in some quarters because they are black. The motivation may sometimes be racial. But such a discussion also cannot exclude that the main victims of crimes committed by young black men are other blacks."


That is what those punks should be trying to change. But nope the likes of the race hustlers like DOJ, Jesse, Al is to blame everyone else instead of those that have created the situation in the first place. OH, if you are called racists because you have a neighborhood watch program because your neighborhood is crime ridden then this country is in the toilet. Thank you Federal Government, thank you LIBERALS!!!!!!

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Reply 27 - Posted by: nightvision, 7/15/2013 9:03:26 AM     (No. 9424690)

#8 makes a very good point.
In parents´ misguided efforts to come up with "unique" names for their offspring, they are often sentencing them to a lifetime of subtle discrimination.
What sounds cool in the ´hood may not have the same impact on an HR manager.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: nightvision, 7/15/2013 9:05:12 AM     (No. 9424699)

Mea culpa.
Post #27 was meant to be directed to #9.
(Coffee not working yet.)

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Reply 29 - Posted by: earlybird, 7/15/2013 9:12:50 AM     (No. 9424715)

Squishy Wonder Bread from the WSJ. And did they really have to mention GZ needs to wear a bulletproof vest?

The WSJ´s editorial board doesn´t know that GZ did not continue to follow TM after the nonemergency police operator said "we don´t need you to do that". GZ said "OK". And stopped. He was trying to give the nonemergency operator a location and there was no street sign where he was standing. TM was already home (or so he told Rachel on the phone) and yet four minutes later was all the way back up the long greenbelt, confronting GZ.

The WSJ editors wimped out on this one. The media party line gussied up in a business suit.




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Reply 30 - Posted by: Coy860, 7/15/2013 9:16:02 AM     (No. 9424723)

I hope all Floridians are calling the Gov. today and voicing their displeasure over the black eye Angela Corey gave the state.
The State has been misserved.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: mod, 7/15/2013 9:32:11 AM     (No. 9424740)

I´ve heard the word "child" used too many times in reference to TM. If we´re going to call him a child, where was the supervision of his parents? The same people want to call 14 year old girls "women" when it comes to abortion.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: oh-heck, 7/15/2013 9:40:38 AM     (No. 9424753)

Flipped on the TV this morning and my wife had turned it to CNN. Who should appear but Van Jones and Newt. Van Jones gave me insights into the administrations thinking by declaring that it was a vigilante killing. When listening to Obama or Van Jones, I always feel I´m listening to someone from an alternative universe. Some basic premises of reality match, some don´t.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: gpau, 7/15/2013 9:46:19 AM     (No. 9424760)

An embarrassment for the WSJ. So obviously wanting to appear reasonable and balanced to their liberal counterparts, they help perpetuate a completely false narrative. Written by those who live in gated communities...

GZ did not do anything wrong; he was serving in a neighborhood watch capacity because the neighborhood plainly needed it; and TM was a street punk who would have ´murdered´ GZ but for GZ´s gun. Race was and is a phony distraction in this entire travesty.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: b4lucy, 7/15/2013 10:01:11 AM     (No. 9424784)

Speaking of abortions in an article about Trayvon, I wonder if a picture of that latest fetus in a "Hoodie" would cause a spike in Black abortions...Hmmm....It´s Black on Black, so Al and Jesse certainly wouldn´t care......

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Reply 35 - Posted by: JimS, 7/15/2013 10:03:16 AM     (No. 9424788)

Disgusting, biased, wrong-headed article, better suited for HuffPo. WSJ should be ashamed.
TV wasn´t murdered; he was killed in self-defence.
TV was just a young punk, high on weed, and walking around with a chip on his shoulder. He could have just GZ that he was just visiting his Dad. But no, he had to go all MMA on the white dude.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: mc squared, 7/15/2013 10:09:57 AM     (No. 9424807)

Am I the only one not shedding tears for Saint Trayvon?

It´s a travesty for Zimm who is collateral damage in Obama´s Black Liberation Theory with which he´s fundamentally changing America.

Unknown people are now safer because George had to take one for the Gipper.


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Reply 37 - Posted by: Gretchen, 7/15/2013 10:20:15 AM     (No. 9424826)

I´m afraid "The WSJ has spoken" theme doesn´t cut it. The unsigned editorial got lots wrong about the case. Enough so that it is clear they either haven´t looked far enough into the case to comment coherently, or they are playing politics as usual.

I suspect the latter; hence the MSM is dead to me and has been for some time.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: RancherJack, 7/15/2013 10:28:03 AM     (No. 9424839)

WSJ editorial is surely read widely and with great interest by people willing to kill cops, burn neighborhoods and threaten ordinary citizens with death if the way they see the world isn´t the way the world is.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: PChristopher, 7/15/2013 10:29:53 AM     (No. 9424844)

it was good to see Mr. Obama´s statement Sunday that "we are a nation of laws, and a jury has spoken."

He´s only saying that so that the MSM can report that he said it and keep reporting that he said it even when he incites his attack dogs to get Zimmerman.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: Jebediah, 7/15/2013 10:30:03 AM     (No. 9424845)

Listened to that total blowhard Donald Trump on Fox this morning talking about how Zimmerman would never get in to Heaven.........and everyone here in Ct. and N.Y. know how Trump consistently stiffs his subcontractors et al. Why Fox has him on is BEYOND me. In any case, turned from the unctuous Geraldo Saturday night to CNN yet and listened to the highly intelligent, articulate Robert Zimmerman Jr. speak about his brother and the case....calm, collected and sticking to the facts!

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Reply 41 - Posted by: Arby, 7/15/2013 11:08:10 AM     (No. 9424904)

And this is the kind of crappola we get from the WSJ?

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Reply 42 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 7/15/2013 11:23:44 AM     (No. 9424929)

Mr. Zimmerman made many mistakes that February evening, not least failing to heed police advice not to pursue Martin

Bull. Zimmerman was well within his rights to take a stroll to see if the punk had left the area for good. That´s called neighborhood watch. Citizens of this country should NOT be forced to cower in fear in their own homes. This is America - the land of the brave!

Besides, the 911 call center agent is NOT a policeman, it´s a receptionist totally unfamiliar with any given situation, and since they´re not there, hardly able to render an informed opinion.

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Reply 43 - Posted by: Emerson, 7/15/2013 11:30:06 AM     (No. 9424939)

It was not the 911 call center. That is for emergencies. It was the nonemergency line, which is a regular telephone number. George Z always called the nonemergency line with situations in the project.

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Reply 44 - Posted by: steveW, 7/15/2013 11:36:22 AM     (No. 9424946)

It is most heartening to hear that Zimmerman is considering suing NBC. Right off the top of my head I can think of about 45,903 reasons NBC could and should be sued for, shall we say, "criminal negligence in presenting the truth to viewers". Most of these cases would involve Dear Leader of course, but scores of others have been maligned in bad faith by the so called "news" coming out of these Democrat party megaphones. Go for it, Mr. Zimmerman.

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Reply 45 - Posted by: bighambone, 7/15/2013 12:30:58 PM     (No. 9425038)

It is much more likely these days that when young black men are looked at suspiciously it is not because they are black, but because the media has portrayed upon continuing fact to the general population every night on local news that a lot of young black men are violent individuals as demonstrated by their perpetration of a huge number of violent criminal acts.

So getting down to the nitty gritty, as long as it is considered to be "cool" in black ghetto culture to walk up to a white "cracker" and throw a sucker punch causing possible serious bodily injury or even death it will be that way.

The liberal Democrats along with the adherents to black ghetto culture have a real concern about what could happen to the perpetrator of what was an criminal assault after the sucker punch is thrown, especially with the array of expanded self-defense and concealed carry laws passed recently by the States being in the mix, that make it really dangerous for the sucker punch throwers, as once the victim believes that they are in danger of serious injury or death the sucker punch thrower could end up dead. No doubt Martin threw such sucker punch hitting Zimmerman in the face, breaking his nose, and knocking him down, that was the catalyst for everything that has happened thereafter.

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Reply 46 - Posted by: athina, 7/15/2013 12:32:37 PM     (No. 9425042)

It would seem they didn´t watch the trial, just like everyone who is upset or confused about the verdict. Would not expect an editorial from the WSJ when they don´t know all the facts. Disappointing.

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Reply 47 - Posted by: Tulunk, 7/15/2013 12:33:48 PM     (No. 9425047)

According to media, big, bad, biased white man murders innocent, unarmed, black child. At night. In the rain. Whatever happened to the lighted sign Trayon was carrying? You know, the one that everyone carries to announce to the world their sex, color, height, weight, intentions, and abilities to defend himself. Oh, wait. He wasn´t carrying any such sign. G.Z. was supposed to KNOW that the guy beating the cr..out of him was a child meaning him no harm.


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Reply 48 - Posted by: SoCalGal, 7/15/2013 12:38:36 PM     (No. 9425058)

All of those arrested for recent burglaries at this condo project were young back males. That has nothing to do with television portrayal. All we see lately on television are black police chiefs, lawyers, judges and LE supervisory personnel.

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Reply 49 - Posted by: lana720, 7/15/2013 12:42:56 PM     (No. 9425072)

No wonder whoever wrote this didn´t have the guts to sign it!
How about we just stop talking about this and allow Mr. Zimmerman and his family get on with their lives? God bless them!

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Reply 50 - Posted by: zzzghy, 7/15/2013 12:58:07 PM     (No. 9425115)

I´m with #51.

George took out the garbage. Most of us do this at least once a week.

Time to move on.

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Reply 51 - Posted by: Butch59, 7/15/2013 12:58:17 PM     (No. 9425116)

Ask yourself what would be happening if TM had managed to severly injure or even kill GZ? Do you think there would be any outcry from anyone? Just another ho-hum killing. Nothing to see here. Move along.

And why haven´t we heard any outcry about all the recent murders in Chicago? And a 4yr old was killed by stray bullets. Anyone see or hear about any protests? Are blacks marching and chanting about not having any police protection? I havent. In fact, it seems that young black men wear it like a badge of honor to have gone out and beat up someone or kille someone. And better if it´s a white man.

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Reply 52 - Posted by: artsy, 7/15/2013 12:58:20 PM     (No. 9425117)

Anyone who has raised young boys knows that at 16-17 yrs they usually have the body and strength of a man, but the mind and judgement of a child. That´s a very dangerous combination at best. Martin´s defenders continually and conveniently leave out his life threatening actions toward GZ...even FOX. The race baiters need to be reminded of this fact in interviews!!!

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Reply 53 - Posted by: artsy, 7/15/2013 1:06:02 PM     (No. 9425137)

Exactly #17 and others who say that "murder" was used incorrectly. "Murder" is the unlawful killing, with malice aforethought, of another human, and generally this premeditated state of mind.

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Reply 54 - Posted by: David in Cal, 7/15/2013 1:16:38 PM     (No. 9425159)

Nice editorial, but it has a glaring mistake. It says, "Mr. Zimmerman made many mistakes that February evening, not least failing to heed police advice not to pursue Martin." In fact, there´s no evidence that Z continued to pursue M after being told he didn´t have to do that

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Reply 55 - Posted by: dbdiva, 7/15/2013 1:24:36 PM     (No. 9425173)

I´m also tired of ´TM´ supporters yammering about his ´legacy. I must have heard that a half dozen times this weekend and I was doing my best to avoid the news.

I have to agree with #19 - if someone was beating my head against concrete I would use any weapon available to defend my self. George Zimmerman did nothing wrong.

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Reply 56 - Posted by: Heil Liberals, 7/15/2013 1:51:02 PM     (No. 9425221)

#40, you nailed the Obama angle perfectly. Not one prepared word comes out of his mouth that is not parsed and nuanced so that it can be twisted to mean what they want it to mean. Look for the various alphabet agencies to pursue Zimmerman like hounds through the woods while St. Obambi sits above it all.

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Reply 57 - Posted by: bohallx, 7/15/2013 1:51:40 PM     (No. 9425223)

#47 ~ and most others ~ we´ve gone off track on the current meaning of the expression ´creepy ass cracker´

As recently as 10 or 15 years ago we´d been combining ´creepy´ and ´ass´ into ´creepy ass´ but we´d also be adding ´ed´ to ´ass´ so the first expression would be ´creepy-assed´ as a modifier to ´cracker´ ~ meaning a white Souvrn´er from the SE USA ~ FL, GA, SC, AL ~

So, a naïve person might ask, certainly terms don´t change that fast ~ gotta´ still be ´cracker´ just as before.

Actually, the term changed when ´creepy assed´ got changed to ´creepy ass´, and that´s more than a change, it´s a change in kind and grammar!

What the young lady said was ´creepy´ followed by ´ass-cracker´.

Clearly a homophobic expression ~ VOILA ~ all is made clear. It´s not that Trayvon is expression some sort of racist expletive, nossiree ~ he´s expressing DISGUST for the homosexual he believes is following him around in the dark. It also establishes INTENT, to wit, that he´s gonna´ do what tough young heterosexual black males do when somebody threatens their goodies ~ he´s gonna´ punch the ´ass-cracker´ out!

I think the defense counsel should have pursued Jintel´s understanding of what an ´ass-cracker´ was all about. She said it´s not racist ~ so what is it? They didn´t ask.



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Reply 58 - Posted by: Coach Springer, 7/15/2013 2:39:04 PM     (No. 9425320)

Thought I was alone in my reaction to the WSJ. Thanks.

A few untruths and some more half truths. Martin was a foolish and violently aggressive victim of black racism as supported by whites. He was behaving precisely like the creepy azz cracker he mistook the Obama voting Democrat black Hispanic he tried to "kill." He thought he could do anything he wanted because he was black. Not at all a good thing for the Journal to be covering up.

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Reply 59 - Posted by: m0j0mojo, 7/15/2013 3:54:30 PM     (No. 9425400)

murder is the unlawful killing of a human being there was no murder until a jury ruled it as one the spineless judge should have dismissed the case the da should never have filed the case and the other part the paper got wrong is mr martin knows what happened as he is with the other criminals where ever they go when they die i still don´t know why mr martin was in a gated community that night he had no reason to be there or did i miss his girl friend lived there or connection or fence or what he was just on private property

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Reply 60 - Posted by: bohallx, 7/15/2013 5:18:46 PM     (No. 9425523)

#61 ~ Martin´s baby-daddy, Mr. Martin, lived there ~ more or less ~ with his girlfriend. He had custody of Martin ever since his stepmother had kicked him outta´ the house for getting expelled from highschool for, among other things, hitting a bus driver ~ and getting caught with a magic marker where he as seen writing graffiti on the wall ~ and he was also caught with stolen goods and burglar tools.

So, yes, he had business there ~ and the gate wasn´t all that effective (they had 2 and one of them was out of order), and there wasn´t a wall ~ nor a moat ~ nor alligators.

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Reply 61 - Posted by: Verdantheart, 7/15/2013 5:44:16 PM     (No. 9425562)

Why was TM out on the street at that ungodly hour? Why wasn´t he at home polishing off the Martin family fave dessert with three buddies? Look, parents must provide for their children, and a 17-year-old has only one state: extremely hungry. I know. If there is justice in this world, the parents must answer for his hunger that night. After that, the nation can talk about the other issues.

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Reply 62 - Posted by: sliver of truth, 7/15/2013 6:05:00 PM     (No. 9425598)

Stopped reading when I hit "murdered" Trayvon Martin. The majority of reporters and writers in the MSM are dumb as a box of rocks. After all this, and the dopes are still insisting on saying TM was "murdered". And we wonder why the lo-info´s are the way they are. Cr*p reporting like this would be the at the top of the list.

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Reply 63 - Posted by: patrick28nov45, 7/15/2013 6:33:16 PM     (No. 9425628)

A third of this nation is out of control and unmanageable --- Travon Martin is their poster child; a nation that cannot abide by the rule of law will descend into anarchy and massive incivility. It would be interesting to see this third have their own state, elect their own leaders and govern themselves. I shudder to think.

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Reply 64 - Posted by: Rafter, 7/15/2013 7:01:07 PM     (No. 9425662)

Murder?

Trayvon Martin attempted to murder George Zimmerman that night.
GZ outwitted him.
POTUS said to bring a gun.
GZ followed the advice of POTUS.

Let´s now put Trayvon on trial for his crime of attempted murder of GZ.
POTUS, the POS who looks like Trayvon, can sub for the unavailable corpus.
POS cannot testify nor testy-lie, but he can vote "present."

Guess who the guilty WON is?

POTUS said... to bring a gun.
And it works jes´ fine, doesn´t it?
Live with it.

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Reply 65 - Posted by: Dodge Boy, 7/15/2013 8:18:26 PM     (No. 9425728)

How would you like to be one of the six lady jurors, now that Obie, Sharpie, and Holdie have let this post-verdict thing go viral? How good the title President Romney sounds about now.

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Reply 66 - Posted by: Dodge Boy, 7/15/2013 8:31:46 PM     (No. 9425741)

This entire matter has festered from the very day of the killing due to bad judgement. Martin´apparent motive of committing robbery. GZ´s not listening to police to stand down. Martin´s decision to attack GZ. THe msm´s decision to make the issue go viral and mis-represent the facts. Members of Congress inflaming the situation. Obie´s decision to make the issue a racial issue. A Florida attorney who fabricated her statements and positions. AG Holdie who now wants to "investigate" GZ for a civil rights violation. Sharpie´s grousing to encourage the inner city crowd to riot asap. Did I leave anything out? Isn´t there one person out there with any common sense?

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Reply 67 - Posted by: Motorcycleboy, 7/16/2013 8:20:08 AM     (No. 9426249)

There was no murder. There was a murder trial. It was a homicide. The jury has spoken.

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Reply 68 - Posted by: wyowumin, 7/16/2013 9:07:52 AM     (No. 9426357)

It´s interesting that this article was posted yesterday as a "must read" and today as a "most read" with the comment that it is the most "clear headed" view of this entire sorry mess and yet virtually all but one ldotter, including me, is of the opinion that this was a spineless, squishy, mealy-mouthed excuse of bad reporting article.

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Reply 69 - Posted by: Me?Opinionated?Nah!, 7/16/2013 9:10:55 AM     (No. 9426365)

Etiquette demands that the proper course to follow, after a court trial results in a verdict with which one disagrees, is to immediately assemble the nearest chapter of Rent-a-Mob, take to the streets, break windows and set fires.



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Reply 70 - Posted by: m0j0mojo, 7/16/2013 11:24:02 AM     (No. 9426589)

in california if a bank or other robbery someone is killed even the get away driver who was not there is guilty of capital murder if trayvon attacked mr zimmerman them a felony was committed and trayvon was guilty of capital murder of himself

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Reply 71 - Posted by: Gretchen, 7/16/2013 2:11:50 PM     (No. 9426910)

What #70 said. Saddens me, but doesn´t surprise me.

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Reply 72 - Posted by: StuartL, 7/16/2013 9:40:37 PM     (No. 9427720)

I´m with you, #70 and #73 -- at a loss to understand the encomia being heaped on this (very appropriately unsigned) puddle of pabulum.

LDotters who are finally ready to consign the WSJ to the bottom of the birdcage might want to hop on over to Investor´s Business Daily, which consistently publishes some of the most (truly) clear-headed (and non-anonymous) editorials around.

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Reply 73 - Posted by: sw penn, 7/16/2013 9:52:47 PM     (No. 9427745)

People keep saying Mr. Zimmerman didn´t make a mistake that night.

From a strictly self defense, personal security point of view he did make one.

He let Mr. Martin get too close.

Paradoxically, NOT making that mistake
would have been the biggest mistake of his life.

If he hadn´t made that mistake,
he would be swinging.



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