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Great news: Government salt
intake guidelines useless,
may even be dangerous

Hot Air, by Ed Morrissey

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Posted By:mitzi, 7/11/2013 3:56:49 PM

Alternate headline: Nanny state hardest hit. After years of government warnings that Americans must lower sodium levels in their diet to avoid heart disease and strokes, a new study commissioned by the CDC finds that the 1500-mg level long championed by policymakers is not just wrong, but so low as to potentially cause health problems: In a report that undercuts years of public health warnings, a prestigious group convened by the government says there is no good reason based

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I never gave any attention to salt guidelines. I like salty food.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: MarinMike, 7/11/2013 4:01:10 PM     (No. 9419327)

Possibly 20 years ago John Stossel was interviewing experts on salt intake, especially as it related to post heart attack patients. The experts warned that the guidelines were too low to be healthy. Stossel then played this for a government expert who, I recall, agreed it was true. "Will the government then change its recommendation about salt?" "No"

I´ve held all government food recommendations in low regard since then.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: tnorling, 7/11/2013 4:03:38 PM     (No. 9419335)

Here we go again. It´s really disconcerting to have "experts" be so wrong, so often. One more nail in the coffin of government credibility. I´ve always eaten plenty of salt and have unusually low blood pressure, so there gummint!

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Reply 3 - Posted by: maggie2u, 7/11/2013 4:19:34 PM     (No. 9419353)

FTA...´As sodium levels plunge, triglyceride levels increase, insulin resistance increases, and the activity of the sympathetic nervous system increases.´

.Six years ago, I came down with a really unusual heart ailment called Inappropriate Sinus Tachycardia. It causes the heart to beat really really fast on any exertion. It´s somehow tied into the sympathetic nervous system. One of the things the Cardiologists told me to do was liberally increase my salt intake. I tried but it was like breaking one of the Ten Commandments. Maybe I´ll try again.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: rollingcow, 7/11/2013 4:20:03 PM     (No. 9419354)

Back when I was pregnant thirty four years ago the doc told me to watch my salt intake so I got used to not using it. In the last few years I´ve come to realize that salt is wonderful on tomatoes and watermelon-also oranges, but we won´t go there. My blood pressure is just fine even after I tossed the pills.
Mrs. Cow

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Reply 5 - Posted by: StormCnter, 7/11/2013 4:25:15 PM     (No. 9419360)

I never gave up my salt shaker. I love it on just about everything, too, but...oranges, #4? Maybe it would work. My husband sprinkles it on grapefruit and I like it on a fresh lemon.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: rmyersne, 7/11/2013 4:38:40 PM     (No. 9419376)

So another health guideline that was once considered indisputable is now exposed. I know I will probably get crucified for even saying this, but I sometimes wonder how accurate all of the "facts" are about the dangers of smoking.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: snowoutlaw, 7/11/2013 5:07:14 PM     (No. 9419427)

I guess we got lucky that salt is naturally in most everything so we were getting more than we thought.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: losgatos, 7/11/2013 5:11:23 PM     (No. 9419435)

#6. You´re right to wonder. My husband was a homicide detective in a large California county. At that coroner´s office if they had a gunshot victim who was a smoker they included smoking as a cause of death. Talk about pc!

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Reply 9 - Posted by: woofwoofwoof, 7/11/2013 5:17:29 PM     (No. 9419446)

I´m gonna keep eating potato chips with sea salt no matter what comes.

Actually an unusually informative article. The trick is not to eat an entire bag of potato chips each day for a year, that is keep it somewhere below about 7000mg on the average, and drink enough water, and also watch the potassium and magnesium and you´ll live a lot longer. Bananas and almonds, respectively, for those other electrolytes.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: lana720, 7/11/2013 5:36:42 PM     (No. 9419481)

#9, you are so wise - you agree with me!
The adrenals need salt to function. Adrenal fatigue and lots of other maladies are corrected with a balanced intake of all you mention.

Edgar Casey (sp?) said many years ago that three almonds a day will prevent cancer. Jim Fixx, the running doctor, dropped dead from a heart attack while running - lack of magnesium, which relaxes your muscles from cramping. Use it after a tough day at the gym and balance it with calcium.

On those potato chips, keep them in the freezer. They won´t sog out on you in the warm weather and they are always crunchy - thank me later!

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Reply 11 - Posted by: woodsman, 7/11/2013 5:41:05 PM     (No. 9419488)

You can have my pretzel when you pry it from my cold dead hands...make that hand....the other one is holding the beer

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Rafter, 7/11/2013 5:48:40 PM     (No. 9419499)

I´ve never had to restrict salt or sodium, but I don´t care for excessive taste of it.
It´s good on chips and popcorn and other snacks, on meats and other foods.

I happen to really enjoy fruits and vegetables, and also raw nuts and some
roasted nuts and seeds, too. They are great without added salt, usually.

And I use coconut oil (excellent for you) and real butter, not margarine.
As my boss for five years, a nutrition M.D., pointed out in the first of his
excellent books, trans fats are horrible for you and simply use other fats and oils.
The dangers of trans fats has been known for over 30 years and published in his book
in 1985.

Personally my blood pressure is very low and borders upon HYPO-tension....
not hypertension.

Given the information in the study of congestive heart failure patients, that would
have been worth knowing for my elderly father, who had CHF.

Back in the day, he and my mom got onto a salt-free diet kick and baked their own
bread, etc... but I didn´t really care for it when offered it... Way too bland.

From this article I would have tried to see if my dad would eat more salt, and whether
it would have improved his well-being. His BP was borderline elevated and was thought
to be "white jacket" - caused by having it checked by a doctor.

My blood pressure is so steady and reliable, you can calibrate those store
BP machines by it... just about!



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Reply 13 - Posted by: Rafter, 7/11/2013 5:54:57 PM     (No. 9419504)

Had to divide my post, so here´s some of the rest of the story...

Btw, potassium occurs in all fruits and vegetables, and even in milk.

One idiot doctor (and there are many) gave my dad a list of "high potassium foods."
Tops on the list... Dates.
And the problem with the dates?
So sugary in a sticky way as to create endless nonstop gas, all day, all night.
I convinced my dad to switch to other sources of potassium.
Not everyone has the same digestive system, and some foods are not tolerated.

Replenish electrolytes, especially in warmer weather. If your sweat leaves a
trail of white powder on your shirts from
minerals lost by perspiring, replenish
as needed. Both my dad and I have/had that.
Rehydrate and replenish electrolytes, and you can keep going a lot longer & better.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: ufos4, 7/11/2013 7:01:25 PM     (No. 9419593)

Duh. Ask a farmer about salt licks. We are mammals, too.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: glcinpdx, 7/11/2013 7:04:44 PM     (No. 9419599)

Government Bureaucrats, is there nothing they do right the first time?

This calls for a heaping helping of Bacon, Eggs and Hash Brown Potatoes!

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Reply 16 - Posted by: BigGeorgeTX, 7/11/2013 10:38:38 PM     (No. 9419812)

Can we all agree that nutrition scientists are nothing but a bunch of parrots?

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