Former U.S. Sen. Bob Bennett stood Friday before a group and gleefully proclaimed that, because he will never again appear on a ballot, he can say anything he wants. Then he did. The Utah Republican was the invited guest luncheon speaker at The Leonardo in Salt Lake City during the annual conference of the Association of American Editorial Cartoonists. He knew he was speaking to a few dozen folks who earn a living making fun of politicians like him. And he knew he was going to be quoted. Then he gave a dismal prognosis for the future of his beloved Republican Party
Comments: The key word in the title is "Former". In his complaint he regurgitates the common "purity" meme often lobbed like grenades by those who would rather keep the status quo. Next time you encounter such drivel I suggest pinning down the the accuser and ask them bluntly what exactly is the purity test? What are its conditions? Why do you believe you know exactly what it is I demand of a person to earn my vote.
As they stammer and search for some floppy unintelligible response you can enjoy the silence for a few moments and laugh.
His opinion. It was and is RINO´s just like him that have destroyed MY Republican Party. I had to hang up on very excited and motivated "College Republican" today because of dolts like Bennett. I would hope the Great State of Utah show courage and get rid of Hatch at their earliest possible convenience.....
A foolish remark by one who probably never went to a tea party meeting. The tea party people are salt of the earth Americans who love their country. They see fiscal matters as they relate to their own lives as well as seeing well the disrespect Congress has for the Constitution.
The measure of the man was taken and found wanting. Now he proves he is just what us Tea people thought he was: an elite effete ego driven Dem lite. Bennett being gone is worth a lot. I always know I am on the right side when certain people are outraged and aggressively against me. Both Repubs and Dems are against Tea principals and Tea people. Bennett speaks for the E.R. on this. So why would any self respecting E.R. expect or even want my vote? Crazy. If I am the problem of the Republican party then throw me out...oh you already in effect have done that by ignoring and disdaining and ridiculing and heaping scorn? Guess I kept hoping the Repub party would change. Things are no better with Tea people voting for the Republican loser moderates then if they vote for Independents of write ins. So why should we hang around to be abused? Only a foolish person does that.
Bennett is the poster boy of what is wrong with DC politics--both Repub and Dem. Apparently he feels that the elected elite know what´s best for the rest of us, and we should just shut up and sit down. Bennett is why we need term limits. 18 years in Congress and now he has a nice pension and (non-Obamacare) health plan. He´s entitled doncha know? And no bias from Paul Rolly: "His replacement is tea party favorite Mike Lee who, despite fist-pounding idolatry to some imagined fundamentalist truth, has been completely ineffective as a senator so far."
"The tea party was borne out of legitimate concerns about government overreach and incompetence, he said."
True. At that point, we who were active were enthusiastic, hopeful and, most importantly, focused. Now, the movement is so scattered and so unorganized and has so many varying goals and targets that it´s difficult to form anything nationally cohesive, much less effective. I always thought Bob Bennett was a good conservative senator. Apparently Utahns thought he had been in office long enough, so switched him out. Only those voters can know or feel whether they came out better with Mike Lee. It is my belief that there are too many in Congress who, also, have been there too long to be effective. Their constituents can and will judge them. If we can revitalize the tea party movement by refocusing on the original goals of smaller government and fiscal responsibility, changes can be made. Right now, though, it´s hard to find any group of people claiming a tea party banner who agree on what should be done first. We´ve morphed from striving for smaller government and a better tax policy into anti-abortion, border security, defense of marriage, revamping school curriculum, etc. All worthy of attention, but we´re stuck with a dilution of tea party power. I have no answers, but I intend to continue to work to hold the House, win the Senate and work toward a victorious Republican presidential win. THEN, we can reclaim our country.
Bennett is very week when it comes to political theory and spouts off with the same erroneous views we heard from Romney.
For some reason he doesn´t believe an effective political party can have FACTIONS ~ yet, the Republican party has a good half dozen we can all name without prompting ~ RTL, Defcon, Neocon, Traditionalists, TEAParty/Fiscon, GOP-e, Christian Democrat (aka Catholics), Souvrn´rs, Rockefeller Repubs (A quickly disappearing breed but they still have voters in a handful of states), the crowd in Utah, and so on.
Donors weren´t initially thought of as a faction, but currently they behave like a faction ~ much to the detriment of winning elections. They are generally very weak when it comes to political theory ~ and have forgotten that it´s if and only if Republicans of all factions can win that they´ll get the economic or tax relief they think they need. Jumping from candidate to candidate to pick the weakest guy just because he´s the most mealy mouthed is no way to win ~ just a clue!
Even the Democrats have factions ~ they used to have MORE factions but some of their most ardent followers jumped ship to the Republicans.
Not a Tea Partier, but have always admired them. The ones I know are all hard working, decent people.
I think the Tea Party made the honest mistake of trying to work with the GOP. They were practically swallowed alive. Hopefully they are regrouping and will make a resurgence, and/or join with a possible Freedom Party.
Bennett says the Tea Party is destroying the GOP. Good. They have been ripe for destruction for a long time.
When a Republican says this with a straight face, "Would I have voted on TARP, or immigration differently had I known that would cost me my Senate seat? No. Because there are things far more important than being a senator. And one is to be true to your own conscience," then you know they aren´t elephants anymore, but Mastodons. There´s still some old DNA floating around, but nothing really useful.
Bitter words, Mr. Bennett, especially coming from someone who was defeated by the TP. If TP Congress members aren´t thriving in DC, it´s because RINOs like you aren´t supporting them. Go sell your goods elsewhere. We´re not buying.
The Tea Party has the establishment in a tizzy because it speaks not just for Republicans but for Democrats too. Many in the democrat party are unhappy and feel the same way about government overreach, free markets and burdensome taxes as we do. What the RINOs fear is the coalescing of these two groups because it would mean the end of the Republican Party. They want to paint the Tea Party as a Republican group but if you remember there were many democrats and independents out there with us. If presented properly as an unaffiliated party, there will be massive Democrat defectors. What they know and scares them to death is that the Tea Party speaks to traditional Americans. The Tea Party is the big tent party, the American party.
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The Advocate, 7/7/2013 8:41:57 AM (No. 9412373)
Thank God for Mike Lee, Cruz and Paul. We need more TEA in the Republican Party if we are to defiant the Islamocommunists in the Dem Party who are trying to destroy the economy, military and America from within. The Obama/Kerry/Hilary support for the MB in the USA and Egypt is well documented. Out with ALL of them.
No mention of $16 trillion in debt. That´s what Bennett´s "compromise on assumptions" gets you. Bob is just another statist playing word games that appeal to weak-minded (consider his audience) Relativists.
When the country is at risk of wandering off a fiscal cliff with the next increment of "caring", Bennett has no regard for the nation-saving rule of "don´t just do something, stand there."
Thx #16 for your observations. I agree. While many blame the Tea groups for the scattered disorganized movement it must be remembered that the IRS was targetting us, the Republicans were heaping abuse and ridicule and hate on us, and the Dems and media were attacking. Sooooo. It smacks of a bit of shallow thinking and faulty memory for some to blame us for not being more effective. The real enemy of the Tea group was the Republicans. We expect Dems and media to try to kill our movement but the very party we tried to work with is the one that was the most vicious. I do not trust anyone aggressively defends and promotes Estab Republicans. They can´t serve two masters...not trying to be Biblical...two masters being Estab Republicans and Tea party principals. The two are opposites. Also remember that attacking Tea people and then blaming us for your loses is beyond dirty and base. It is like the Dems do. Dems and Estab Republicans are cut from the same bolt of cloth. I will never forget the early days when we turned out in droves in my small town. It was surprising to see our friends and neighbors at the rally because no one tried to arrange us or called us. Word of mouth brought us out. Next thing I knew I was reading that us peaceful, hardworking people were ´the enemy´. We thought we could help the Republican party. And, we did in the mid term elections. After that we were pariahs. We can´t win with Republicans. We vote for their moderates against our grain but are then blamed. I really do think Republican Estab are not to be trusted.
From 2002-2006 the Republicans held all three branches. Their great achievements were: starting 2 very costly(in blood, treasure, and status), unconstitutional, nation building efforts-that have been complete failures; instituting the unconstitutional practice of spying on American citizens; vastly increasing the size of the federal government; increasing federal control of child indoctrination (education); promoted criminal immigrant takeover of our sovereign nation; gave us a chief justice who can´t understand the very clear words of the Constitution; increased the cozy relationship of big business and big government; paved the way for Obama/Pelosi...and on and on. This is not what our great founders intended.
So why should we wish this result again? Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results. The revolution has begun. God bless America.
" If we can revitalize the tea party movement by refocusing on the original goals of smaller government and fiscal responsibility, changes can be made. Right now, though, it´s hard to find any group of people claiming a tea party banner who agree on what should be done first. We´ve morphed from striving for smaller government and a better tax policy into anti-abortion, border security, defense of marriage, revamping school curriculum, etc."
We both better buy a lottery ticket, because I completely agree with your entire post except the ending and Amnesty. And that is only because I want a sealed boarderBEFORE any Amnesty legislation. As to the latter, I think the Republican Establishment is now resolved in running out the clock figuring they will suck up all the money they can before they are removed or forced to retire. Its akin looting,pillaging, and burning everything in sight as they retreat towards their long boats on the beach leaving nothing behind but rubble and ashes to the victors to rebuild with.
"Voting your conscience" is part of the problem. Congress persons were elected to vote for what is Best for their constituency and the USA...basically what was promised while they were campaigning. Thankfully the mccains and grahams cannot silence the Cruzes, Lees, Gowdys, Chaffez and Gohmerts in Congress. 2014 will add to this list.
Since the GOP, with its buds in the Dem party, seem intent on destroying the country by taxing/spending/regulating us into oblivion and trading away our liberties one "reasonable restriction" at a time, it seems only fitting that the tea party should destroy them. I´m ok with that.
Effete professional politicians like Bob Bennett are who are destroying the Republican Party. Right in the middle of a job crisis and an economic crisis the RINO Repubs are going along with the criminal Dems to promote another huge crap sandwich like this Illegal Alien Amnesty Bill. The Repubs have even taking to lying now about the reasons for this huge amnesty Bill. "It will grow the economy", "We can have border security". All bullcrap. The TEA Party people are the only ones left who can save the Republican party. The party is full of RINO´s like Bob Bennett. This is what we are up against.
It is obvious Bob is still crying over the fact he is no longer a member of "the club". He thought he had paid for a lifetime membership. It is sad he hasn´t found something worthwhile to do with the rest of his life to give him fulfillment. While the Tea Party has more in common with the GOP than the Dems due to its smaller government and smaller spending foundations, Bob is a good example of why the GOP reacted more negatively than the others. Who are most threatened by the Tea Party challenges to their life long memberships to elected office? GOP members like Bob. They all know they can be primaried in their next election, for House members that means accountability comes every two years, for Senators like Hatch, McCain, and Graham they only have to act like a conservative on the sixth year of their term to fool their voters into re-election. It worked for McCain and Hatch in recent elections, will it work for amnesty Graham next year? ( Probably)
#16, you sound like you are talking about my former Senator, Gordon Smith from Oregon. He voted his conscience rather than what the Oregon voters wished. His conscience consisted of his wallet and getting along with democrats. I am glad he is gone.
The tea party is either going to be the saving grace of the country, or it will be the end of the republican party over the Establishment RINOS.
The tea party coalition was founded because DC was spending money which we DO NOT have, because it was obligating us to taxes for patronage of Obama´s minions, who have either been shown to be those who spin the money back in contributions, or hippy friends in junk science.
Because it appeared that Obama was so "popular" the GOP feared him trying to make nice with the media which was in the tank for Obama´s coalitions (social libs favoring abortion, gays, free citizenship without going through legal immigration channels, etc) and the "old bulls" didn´t want to be told to stay on message.
Now we find out the IRS has been targeting the tea party groups from becoming organized. Time for people like former senator Bennett to get the hell out of the way! By supporting big spending and big government, he violates the Founder´s belief that "the government which governs least, governs best".
He can say what he wants, but without the people who make up the tea party, the GOP will continue to founder picking the Establishment country clubbers.
#22, I don´t see anyone "blaming" people in the tea party movement for becoming scattered and unfocused. "People" are focused, the movement has become less so. To me shallow thinking is indicated by the constant search for someone to point a finger at. Trying to analyze how the tea party movement can regroup requires something more than "shallow" thought. We can do this. We´ve done it before. It helps to believe.
I see BB is a little upset since he thought he deserved his seat and his run for it. He´s a sore loser. The way I see it we have one party rule, democrat communist and Republicans melled together. The Republicans so want to be liked by the media and want to be liberal but not out and out so obvious. The Tea Party is the second party it´s just no one told the Republicans that or they can´t see it because they´re busy crossing the aisle.
"Don’t ever compromise your principles, but be willing to adjust your assumptions."
As #19 alluded, the principles of the Republican Party have become compromised. The new assumption is that low taxes, less intrusive government and strong defense are too radical. The "new" Republican Party is not a "big tent", it´s a road show moving a bit leftward hoping to attract "moderates" left behind by radical Democrats. Th calculation is that "bitter clingers" will vote Republican left a lesser evil choice, again.
I fear for the honest, grassroots "tea party" because much of its agenda was snapped up by a long list of well-funded organizations that co-opted the issues. For all the hullabaloo about grass roots, I was already agog in Washington years ago when freshly painted motorhomes with "volunteers" showed up and remain on the road during campaign season. Our little spitfire, don´t tread on me libertarian chairwoman is now the docile county GOP chairwoman. LOL! Just send money!!
Bennett´s observations are flawed on many levels. First, what is wrong with the demise of the Republican party? Does Jefferson´s observation about flawed governments not fall to flawed parties as well? Second, one way compromise is not compromise; it´s appeasement. Appeasing your competition results in your subjugation to their will. Third, the nobel sounding "vote my conscience" is a plastic banana. Committed politicians evaluate their position, the position of the opposition, and the merits of the law they are debating. The not only inform their constituents, but they LISTEN to them as well. This is the ideal politician. That is not to say conscience, moral compass, and faith do not have influence. They do, and they should. But these guides are are not the soul basis of judgement.
The bottom line is that as another poster noted, the Old Guard of the GOP are angry. They are afraid of change; they are afraid of losing their jobs.
What he was saying is that it complicates the efforts of the establishment Republicans to keep going along to get along with the liberal Democrats as essentially a Democrat lite party with the so-called Tea Party out there.
Democratic and Islamic infiltrators, and yellow-belly Carl Rove-McReachacrosstheisle types have, and are, sinking the GOP and subsequently growing the Tea Party, THE organizational demand for true conservative, constitutional government.
This is more proof to me that the TEA Party needs to morph into an actual political party. Sarah and Levin toyed with the name "Freedom Party". Right now the term TEA Party is used to describe a Straw Man. It is used by both parties to describe some unseen force that is out there destroying the country. As long as the TEA Party has no actual organized voice there is no push back. Let´s take our positions out into the open arena and let the voters decide.
Yup, the Republican Party, with Senators like McCain, who forced me to vote for Obama in 2008. I got it right in 2012, but by then ,it was too late. Americans on benefits who pay little or no taxes now outnumber those who do fund the Country, and they are in the minority.
So..many former ER are suddenly and quite easily finding out that all this time they were really Tea people. Strange how they can morph into this or that at will. Are their several names for one person posting? I remember who heaped scorn on Tea people and who are now acting like they were ahead of the charge for the Tea movement all along. It is like the parade that was marching along and suddenly someone jumped in front and pretended to be the leader. Ha. No one is fooled.
The Tea Party is now the second major party. The republican party is in third place and dying, mostly made up of old wealthy men, who have spent their time making themselves wealthy, rather than one whit of concern about the country or citizens.
#50, you don´t know what you´re talking about if you are addressing me (since I´m the one who mentioned being an early attendee at tea party rallies). Sometimes it´s better not to judge so quickly, particularly when a person doesn´t have direct knowledge. You have never heard me "heap scorn on Tea people", nor have I noticed other L-Dotters doing any such thing. Aren´t we all on the same side?
SC are you asking me a direct question? I was actually thinking of Miss Molly. Now what do you say to that? Being that you are from Texas I had figure that you would have some sense from time to time but clearly you are quite aggressive and ready to attack me. I hope I do not get booted from Lcom for this exchange. Advice: get the chip off your shoulder.
Nothing more bitter than a RINO scorned, eh? I remember both McCain and Hatch with uppity attitudes at the very THOUGHT that they are not guaranteed a lifetime seat. I am so thankful to see my fellow conservatives who just ain´t falling for the game anymore.
Some well thought out responses on here, thank you. I´ve come to think that there are 2 parties at election time, and just 1 party in Washington...that the partisanship is faked to throw us off the fact that the politicians are there to further their own futures and not ours. No wonder the established GOPers fear the Tea Party. They stand for Accountability.
#58, You have mistakenly bought into the little canard that those who are dissatisfied with the Republican Party are ´purists´, who will only support those with whom they always agree, one hundred percent. Despite the repeated Alinsky-style aspersions, we are well aware that no one always agrees and that all of us make mistakes. But we thank you for your concern.
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