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How Democracies Perish, Deathbed Edition
American Thinker, by Daren Jonescu

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Posted By:steveW, 6/18/2013 6:11:46 AM

This is the thirtieth anniversary of the publication of How Democracies Perish, an analysis of the spread of world communism by Jean-François Revel, one of freedom´s most serious French defenders since Tocqueville. At the heart of this work, Revel details "The Tools of Communist Expansion," among which the most relevant for understanding our current situation comes in Chapter 16, "Ideological Warfare and Disinformation." The profound simplicity of Revel´s nuts and bolts account of totalitarianism´s Cold War advance, far from being obsolete

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How to understand the loathsome MSM´s dishonest presentation and protection of Dear Leader.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Rinktum, 6/18/2013 7:27:05 AM     (No. 9381208)

Excellent article that explains where we are today. Now the question becomes, what do we do about it? And I am very afraid of the answer.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: M2, 6/18/2013 8:01:52 AM     (No. 9381251)

This is among the best, most quotable article in months. Definitely worth the time to read. With apologies for the long quote:

The key to the method, as Revel explained, is to ensure a sufficient time lapse between an occurrence of tyrannical behavior and the revelation of its full ramifications. This not only dulls the public´s response, an effect perfectly captured in Hillary Clinton´s uncharacteristically honest "What difference, at this point, does it make?" As with its Cold War manifestation, the truth delay also serves the more profound purpose of detaching the state´s horrors from the ideology that produced them, thereby protecting the ideology itself from public condemnation...Leaving Americans to die without lifting a finger to help, and then concocting an elaborate lie to protect oneself from scrutiny, is not an anomaly, or a fatal "mistake," independent of any underlying philosophy. Rather, it is a perfect expression of an underlying philosophy: it is progressive collectivism´s natural method, using "mere individuals" to achieve one´s devious ends, and abandoning them -- to death, if necessary -- when they are no longer useful.

This eye-opening article gives the reader a peek inside the sinister, relentless pursuit of communism perpetrated against the West, and as Pogo prophetically noted, "We have seen the enemy and it is us."

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Reply 3 - Posted by: squid, 6/18/2013 8:28:21 AM     (No. 9381298)

Historically Democracies have a lousy record. They tend to make lousy decisions during times of crisis. That is why the original constitution (which we have dismembered over the last two hundred years) was not a democracy, but a polyglot.

We have turned this country into a Democracy and now this democracy is going to eventually turn on us.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: TunnelRat, 6/18/2013 8:37:59 AM     (No. 9381314)

"That is, the West received the worst of the news once it had already become mere ´history,´ thus dulling its emotional impact."

e.g. "At this point, what does it matter?"

I dunno, it seems the author could have made his point in about half the number of words. After a while, the constant droning of dull prose serves to lessen the impact of the message. It makes me wish Mark Steyn had written it.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Rinktum, 6/18/2013 8:39:57 AM     (No. 9381316)

Excellent article. Should be a must read.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: voxpop, 6/18/2013 8:45:48 AM     (No. 9381325)

[FTA]the response of most of the media may be summarized as follows: first, deny the story outright; second, accept that something happened, but claim that it has been blown out of proportion; third, admit that what happened was pretty bad, but insist that none of it is in any way traceable to the officials at the top of the hierarchy.

Any questions?

Just how long are we going to sit on our asses and let this continue unabated?

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Gretchen, 6/18/2013 9:56:56 AM     (No. 9381473)

What #4 said. Article is good, but could´ve been said in lots fewer words.

Additionally, we all know this already. Do we need another hand-wringing session? How about some examples on how to defeat the propaganda? How about giving us some tools to push back.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: WAN2, 6/18/2013 10:17:21 AM     (No. 9381509)

A nation of children get their comeuppance.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: wilarrbie, 6/18/2013 3:08:08 PM     (No. 9382105)

Answer #6: until we have an effective leader that can rally us up of our asses. Those of us who care about these things are busy "pulling the wagon" by day and tired by night. Also - we worry about losing the goods we have worked so hard to acquire. Rocking the boat puts our stuff in danger. That´s why it´d be so hard to engage in a tax revolt. Something which would be very effective at getting our pols attentions.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Lawsy0, 6/19/2013 7:53:12 AM     (No. 9383000)

I will finish the entire article later but finally, someone has noted that JOHN DEWEY was possibly the worst thing to happen to American education since the founding of the country. Until now, of course. Take his decimal system and shove it.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Timber Queen, 6/19/2013 7:59:31 AM     (No. 9383006)

Its the idealogy, not Obama, Hillary or any of the gang. I´m afraid we are past a political solution, and the cultural solution will remain out of grasp until our society expierences a spiritual revival. And, those usually only happen in response to crisis and emergencies. Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: squid, 6/19/2013 8:08:01 AM     (No. 9383021)

#10, that is pretty funny. John Dewey did not invent the Dewey Decimal System. Melvil Dewey (a librarian) invented the Dewey Decimal System.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: LZK, 6/19/2013 8:29:19 AM     (No. 9383062)

I´m from the generation -- although very young at the time -- who witnessed the destruction of Pearl Harbor and got MAD and fought back....

I get tired of listening to the doom and gloomers tell US WE have no recourse and WE are doomed....

What is that??? Since when do Americans give up....

What do WE do about this -- you ask???

WE start at local levels and start sending conservatives to Washington DC. Conservatives who are interested in saving the country from career politicians who care more about their posteriors than the country WE live in....

There´s our start.....

LZK

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Reply 14 - Posted by: mulhaven, 6/19/2013 8:42:23 AM     (No. 9383091)

Revel writes of the insidiousness of those seeking ultimate power. Is he pessimistic and fatalistic, or is he admiring and hopeful? It is hard to tell. He doesn´t seem to expect any escape from the promised tyranny. Was it simply in his nature to surrender? I agree with those who see the defeatist attitude as counter-productive. Why must tyranny succeed? Can mankind not have optimism about its future? Can we not defeat those who would trample on us? Perhaps Revel was around for the Nazi invasion of Germany when many Frenchmen saw no chance of opposition and defeat of their enemy, and this may have tainted his apparent view of the inevitability of totalitarian government. Totalitarians are confident in having their jack-booted monolith dominate mankind. But this is not possible when they are confronted by freedom-loving people.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Michimatician47, 6/19/2013 9:17:41 AM     (No. 9383150)

L-Dotters should not be surprised that Revel offers no solutions. He was French. Being the smartest guy at the cafe sufficed.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: KarenJ1, 6/19/2013 9:29:44 AM     (No. 9383174)

I´m with #1 - what do we do about it? Between this article and the new book by Diana West I´m not feeling too good right now. I look and look for answers and find none. Other than voting and marching on Washington what are we to do? With the exception of a few, those in Washington refuse to do what is right for the country because of their own self-serving political interests. It is beyond frustrating and depressing to watch everything crumble around you when there is little, if anything, we can do. Maybe Mark Levin´s new book that is coming out in August will give us some ideas as to what to do.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: lana720, 6/19/2013 9:37:10 AM     (No. 9383198)

Agree #4. But, some people only get it if it is repeated over and over.
I am truly afraid for our country and those within it who are destroying it (and the one reading at the Brandenburg Gate right now).
God bless all the Tea Partiers in DC today!

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Reply 18 - Posted by: ilovedogs, 6/19/2013 9:47:58 AM     (No. 9383220)

#13 I remind myself daily the fat lady hasn´t sung yet.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: planetgeo, 6/19/2013 10:25:00 AM     (No. 9383333)

By definition, democracies perish when the majority of their citizens vote for people and policies that cause them to perish.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: RancherJack, 6/19/2013 10:53:01 AM     (No. 9383417)

I´d say the reason Democracy is dying is that we´re living in a Constitutional Republic. Not a democracy.

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Dr. James Thornwell, 1862 - “If they (the North) prevail, the whole character of the Government will be changed, and instead of a federal republic, the common agent of sovereign and independent States, we shall have a central despotism, with the notion of States forever abolished, deriving its powers from the will, and shaping its policy according to the wishes, of a numerical majority of the people; we shall have, in other words, a supreme, irresponsible democracy. The Government does not now recognize itself as an ordinance of God, and when all the checks and balances of the Constitution are gone, we may easily figure to ourselves the career and the destiny of this godless monster of democratic absolutism. The progress of regulated liberty on this continent will be arrested, anarchy will soon succeed, and the end will be a military despotism, which preserves order by the sacrifice of the last vestige of liberty.

Top that, readers

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Reply 21 - Posted by: PoliticalJunky, 6/19/2013 10:58:50 AM     (No. 9383433)

If only people who have paid no attention and have no idea what they are doing would refrain from voting.

Judges are my weak spot. Judges are reelected time after time by people who know nothing about their performance. I watch government closely, both state and federal, but I don´t watch the judges in our court system. I know this is wrong but I don´t quite know what to do about it. They are not identified as to political party so that is no help. I almost never vote for or against; I leave the judge portion blank. I try to do no harm. I wish other know nothings would do the same.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Butch59, 6/19/2013 12:07:12 PM     (No. 9383623)

As has been mentioned many times here and elsewhere, this nation is NOT supposed to be a Democracy, it is a Federal Republican form of government. Or, it´s supposed to be. However, there are those that are trying to make it a Democracy ( "progressives" and Dims). And history shows us what eventually happens to Democracies. They usually become tyrannical and are overturned by armed resurrection. And if this country continues down it´s current path, the same will happen here. It´s just a matter of time.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: hammondb3, 6/19/2013 12:45:00 PM     (No. 9383724)

I have not read the article, but I would say that step 1. is start using the word democracy more and more.

Nowhere in the founding documents will you find the word ´democracy´.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: doctorfixit, 6/19/2013 1:24:01 PM     (No. 9383815)

Socialism and totalitarianism are inseparable. Socialism is a transition stage to oligarchy or dictatorship. We are in transition. We have an illegitimate political system and an illegitimate government. Both political parties serve the ruling class. Thus, politics cannot solve the fundamental struggle for freedom against totalitarian socialism. It will require non-violent revolution.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: gator, 6/19/2013 2:26:41 PM     (No. 9383950)

The article is not news to anyone other than Rip Van Winkle. The question is, as 1 points out, is what can or will be done about it, and we all know the sad answer to that. The young of this country will not see the light until it is far, far too late, and are being loaded onto cattle cars having outlived their usefulness to the rulers.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Illinois Resident, 6/19/2013 2:55:13 PM     (No. 9384004)

If getting the word out is important, how do we get rid of the Obama-loving, lie, & cover up main stream media? They are all so rapped up in their "new religion" of the "progressive agenda" they are methodical robots who forever regurgitate the agenda without thinking.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Lawsy0, 6/19/2013 3:13:43 PM     (No. 9384031)

What a great article. It prints out to 6 pages and worth the ink. I heard a PTA president once say that the decimal system was the work of John--while Librarians since times long past knew that was false, but they don´t get PTA presidents from the top of the pile.

What hurts my heart is how complicit the news gathering media has been in seeing that Communism happens and freedom disappears. AND, it was all part of the grand design.


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Reply 28 - Posted by: Rafter, 6/19/2013 5:55:03 PM     (No. 9384285)

Well, here´s an idea you won´t like one bit... (I can predict)...

One problem is the completely erroneous, and in fact quite nutty, and even dishonest...
notion that... "all men are created equal."

This is a stupid lie that many promote...
(authored by Jefferson, the DimWit Party founder and hypocritical slave owner)...

Would you or I qualify for the NBA?
No... of course not.
Case closed.
People are not equal.
Even "identical twins" are not equal (I worked with two guys, "ID" twins, who were
obviously not the same, although similar).

The DimWitz suck up to Jefferson´s Declaration lie... and try to make all equal through coercive Gummint policy.

End the nutty lying notion of "equality."
The stupid French promoted it in their revolution...
"Egalite, Fraternite, Liberte" or whatever the spelling and exact phrasing...

Even Rush stupidly promotes this nutty lie on his radio show.
It´s pure BS.
Get over it.
Screw "equality."

We will NEVER have freedom if we falsely insist on this false idea that "equality"
is even remotely a possibility.

There will never be equality...
Even science knows clones are not identical.
Biology prevents it.
Our survival depends upon our inequality and non-identicalness.
That is why we have a constant remix of genes through sexual reproduction.

GAWD must have wanted us to be inherently unequal.
Thanks be to GAWD.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: ArtieC, 6/19/2013 6:38:23 PM     (No. 9384339)

America isn´t a democracy. But I understand the premise.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: sw penn, 6/19/2013 8:04:36 PM     (No. 9384447)

Make A Difference...

Term Limits!

No, not for politicians...

For Bureaucrats!

Limit the permanent shadow government.

No Retirement or pensions for any government employees.

You wanna see how fast a government can shrink?

Or, do you just want to talk about it?

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Mother of AL, 6/19/2013 8:39:57 PM     (No. 9384480)

Alas....the article is long. Too bad the author could not write in the truncated manner of our SESAME STREET influenced generations of today..instead writing in the intelligent manner of our betters.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: Elvira, 6/19/2013 9:14:55 PM     (No. 9384505)

AND THAT! Ladies and entlemen is why I am NO. 1 FAN OF #13!!!

Buck up, get off your backsides and MOVE!!

#28 Has totally missed the point of all beimg created equal. Equal BUT different. We all have the aame RIGHTS!.. Sheesh, I don´t have time or patience to explain it. Our educatuin system is one of he top 5 things to be overhauled!

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Elvira, 6/19/2013 9:17:41 PM     (No. 9384510)

And tbat post is why I should be using a computer and not a Nook! ;-D

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Reply 34 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 6/19/2013 10:37:35 PM     (No. 9384592)

Perhaps.....perhaps...the solution lies in the ´laboratory of liberty´ envisioned by our F.F´s to wit: Let each state enact the laws as it´s citizens sees fit and let the populace vote with their feet.

Meta-Data = Get on down to Texas and help us dry-gulch ´em from the bluffs as the scurvy dawgs cross the Red River.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: Tianne, 6/19/2013 11:13:33 PM     (No. 9384638)

Excellent article - worth every word.

FTA: "On September 11, 2012, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton did what collectivist tyrants do -- and then they did the other thing collectivist tyrants do, namely lie shamelessly about their actions. The facts, the witnesses, and the gaping holes in the administration´s lies were all available from the outset. The ´free press´ pursued none of these, instead actively obfuscating the facts, burying the witnesses, and dutifully disseminating the lies. They wished to save the re-election campaign of inhuman creatures, and in doing so they masked the even deeper horror that full and immediate revelation might have exposed, namely that inhuman brutality is is no anomaly among Marxist-progressives, but rather the raison d´être of progressivism itself."

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Reply 36 - Posted by: Dodge Boy, 6/19/2013 11:31:54 PM     (No. 9384664)

In re #1, if you consider the November election outcome, we aren´t interested in doing anything about it. I speak to the repub sheep, dim sheep, and indy sheep who thought it was more important to make a statement..and not vote.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: Bla Bla, 6/20/2013 3:59:55 AM     (No. 9384759)

I´ve always thought our national equality is in our life & access to God, and our human dignity rights given to us by that same God & not a government.

But I dunno #28 . . . you might be on to something. All the Special Ed/challenged people I know are far more connected to "GAWD" than I am. So, you may actually have a point . . .

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Former Sen. Bob Dole (R-Kan.) said a number of junior GOP senators considering a presidential run in 2016 do not yet have the experience — specifically naming Rand Paul (Ky.), Marco Rubio (Fla.) and Ted Cruz (Texas). The former 1996 GOP presidential candidate sounded particularly skeptical of Cruz in an interview this week with The Wichita Eagle. "A number of the younger members, first-termers like Rand Paul, Rubio and that extreme-right-wing guy, Ted Cruz — all running for president now. I don´t think they´ve got enough experience yet," Dole said. The 90-year-old former senator said, however, his main concern about 2016 is living

Jeb Bush is your only chance
against Hillary, Republicans

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Hot Air, by Bob Schrum    Original Article
Posted By: quantumman- 4/22/2014 6:32:54 AM     Post Reply
If Jeb reaches for the nomination, there will be a titanic battle between the party establishment and the Tea Party. Steve Schmidt, McCain’s strategist in 2008, insists that in the end Republicans usually settle on the most electable candidate. To get by, this Bush may be forced to trim his positions, although the cautionary tale of Romney suggests that he would have to tack artfully and carefully for the sake of the general election. Certainly he will have the resources to outlast, discredit, and disqualify his rivals.

Michelle Obama:
´splurging is the key to life´

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Associated Press, by Staff    Original Article
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Washington - Michelle Obama said "splurging is the key to life" if you regularly eat right and stay active. Her biggest guilty pleasure: French fries. "How would you appreciate vegetables if you never had chocolate?" she asked. "You couldn´t live without a little chocolate, a little French fries." The first lady took questions from children reporters Monday after appearing at the White House Easter Egg Roll. She told the children that if they eat right the majority of the time, then a splurge or snack is not going to hurt them. "I still splurge when I can, but that's why I try to exercise almost every day," she said.

Fraud runs rampant in Census Bureau
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New York Post, by John Crudele    Original Article
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There’s a pattern of falsifying statistics throughout the entire Census Bureau. And anyone who attempts to blow the whistle on the fraud is either retaliated against or ignored, according to two new sources who have experienced the process firsthand. As I’ve been writing for more than six months, the Census Bureau office in Philadelphia uncovered a case of fraud in 2010, did nothing about it and allowed the practice to continue. In that instance, a data collector named Julius Buckmon was faking reports that went into the nation’s all-important jobless tally and consumer-inflation survey. Because the Census Bureau’s surveys are scientific — meaning

Professor: ‘Colleges Will Start Closing Up’ if
‘Racist, Misogynist, Money-Grubbing’ GOP Wins

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National Review Online, by Andrew Johnson    Original Article
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New audio reveals an Eastern Connecticut State University professor warning that Republicans will “want things to go back — not to to 1955, but to 1855? if they win control of Congress in November. Republican victories could also put him out of a job, he cautioned. “We will live in a very, very, very different kind of country if that happens,” Professor Brent Terry told students in his Introduction to Creative Writing course, according to audio obtained by Campus Reform. “I mean, colleges will start closing up if these people have their way.” Over the course of his rant, Terry characterized conservatives

But Seriously, Just How
Slow-Witted is John Boehner?

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American Thinker, by C. Edmund Wright    Original Article
Posted By: quantumman- 4/21/2014 7:22:21 AM     Post Reply
As he moves from lobbyists to the golf course, from press conferences to the tanning bed, he remains oblivious to all that is around him. He has power, incredible power, and yet to this day he has no understanding of the election that made it so. Moreover, all around him are astonishing opportunities for him to be an historic figure -- one who could and should be the man who did more than any other single person in turning back the red tide of Obama. It’s all there for Speaker of the House, and yet John Boehner manages to miss

Benghazi attack could have been prevented if
US hadn´t ´switched sides in the War on Terror´
and allowed $500 MILLION of weapons to reach
al-Qaeda militants, reveals damning report

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Daily Mail [UK], by David Martosko    Original Article
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The Citizens Commission on Benghazi, a self-selected group of former top military officers, CIA insiders and think-tankers, declared Tuesday in Washington that a seven-month review of the deadly 2012 terrorist attack has determined that it could have been prevented – if the U.S. hadn´t been helping to arm al-Qaeda militias throughout Libya a year earlier. ´The United States switched sides in the war on terror with what we did in Libya, knowingly facilitating the provision of weapons to known al-Qaeda militias and figures,´ Clare Lopez, a member of the commission and a former CIA officer, told MailOnline. She blamed the Obama administration

Would YOU be underwater if the
polar caps melted? Map reveals
what our planet would look like
if sea levels rose by 260ft

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Daily Mail (UK), by Ellie Zolfagharifard    Original Article
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Global sea levels have risen by 8 inches (20cm) since 1880 and scientists predict they could rise up to 3ft (98cm) by 2100. But despite the UN’s recent threats of war, famine and extreme weather, such a dramatically different world caused by sea level rise can be hard to imagine. To help picture the future, Martin Vargic, an amateur graphic designer from Slovakia, has created a map depicting the planet with sea levels around 260ft (79m) higher than they are today. He imagines what Earth would look like if the ice sheets surrounding the North and South poles melted, releasing

Reid: ´We Are a Nation of Laws,
Not of Men and Women´

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Cybercast News Service, by Susan Jones    Original Article
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It may not be tomorrow, but Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) says "something will happen" to force a Nevada rancher to obey a court order to stop grazing his cattle on federal land and pay his grazing fees. "It´s obvious that you can´t just walk away from this," Reid said in an April 18 interview with a Nevada´s KSNV-TV News 3 program “What’s Your Point?” "You can´t have a law that is -- we´re a nation of laws, not of men and women," he said. (Video) Reid noted that most cattlemen pay their taxes, pay their fees, and follow

The Increasing Desperation of Democrats
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National Review Online, by John Fund    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/21/2014 5:19:02 AM     Post Reply
Harry Reid isn’t backing down from his claim that rancher Cliven Bundy’s supporters are “domestic terrorists.” It’s astonishing rhetoric given the White House’s characterization of the mass shooting by a genuine terrorist, Major Nidal Hasan, who killed 13 Americans at the Fort Hood Army base after yelling “Allahu Akbar!” (God is great.) Rather than labeling Hasan’s actions “domestic terrorism,” the Obama administration is prosecuting him for having committed “workplace violence.” Democratic rhetoric is become ever more desperate and overheated as we approach the November midterm elections. Last week, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said that GOP positions on immigration were motivated by

38 Republican lawmakers put aside differences
for lawsuit challenging legality of Obamacare

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Washington Times, by Dave Boyer    Original Article
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Thirty-eight Republican lawmakers, including such unlikely bedfellows as John McCain of Arizona and Ted Cruz of Texas, have joined to support a lawsuit challenging the legality of the Affordable Care Act and accusing the president of repeatedly ignoring the law he signed for political reasons. The lawmakers have signed onto a legal brief in support of a lawsuit filed by Sen. Ron Johnson, the Wisconsin Republican who is asking a federal court to overturn Obamacare’s special treatment for members of Congress and their staffs. “The unlawful executive action at issue in this case is not an isolated incident,” the brief


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