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How Democracies Perish, Deathbed Edition
American Thinker, by Daren Jonescu

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Posted By:steveW, 6/18/2013 6:11:46 AM

This is the thirtieth anniversary of the publication of How Democracies Perish, an analysis of the spread of world communism by Jean-François Revel, one of freedom´s most serious French defenders since Tocqueville. At the heart of this work, Revel details "The Tools of Communist Expansion," among which the most relevant for understanding our current situation comes in Chapter 16, "Ideological Warfare and Disinformation." The profound simplicity of Revel´s nuts and bolts account of totalitarianism´s Cold War advance, far from being obsolete

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How to understand the loathsome MSM´s dishonest presentation and protection of Dear Leader.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Rinktum, 6/18/2013 7:27:05 AM     (No. 9381208)

Excellent article that explains where we are today. Now the question becomes, what do we do about it? And I am very afraid of the answer.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: M2, 6/18/2013 8:01:52 AM     (No. 9381251)

This is among the best, most quotable article in months. Definitely worth the time to read. With apologies for the long quote:

The key to the method, as Revel explained, is to ensure a sufficient time lapse between an occurrence of tyrannical behavior and the revelation of its full ramifications. This not only dulls the public´s response, an effect perfectly captured in Hillary Clinton´s uncharacteristically honest "What difference, at this point, does it make?" As with its Cold War manifestation, the truth delay also serves the more profound purpose of detaching the state´s horrors from the ideology that produced them, thereby protecting the ideology itself from public condemnation...Leaving Americans to die without lifting a finger to help, and then concocting an elaborate lie to protect oneself from scrutiny, is not an anomaly, or a fatal "mistake," independent of any underlying philosophy. Rather, it is a perfect expression of an underlying philosophy: it is progressive collectivism´s natural method, using "mere individuals" to achieve one´s devious ends, and abandoning them -- to death, if necessary -- when they are no longer useful.

This eye-opening article gives the reader a peek inside the sinister, relentless pursuit of communism perpetrated against the West, and as Pogo prophetically noted, "We have seen the enemy and it is us."

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Reply 3 - Posted by: squid, 6/18/2013 8:28:21 AM     (No. 9381298)

Historically Democracies have a lousy record. They tend to make lousy decisions during times of crisis. That is why the original constitution (which we have dismembered over the last two hundred years) was not a democracy, but a polyglot.

We have turned this country into a Democracy and now this democracy is going to eventually turn on us.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: TunnelRat, 6/18/2013 8:37:59 AM     (No. 9381314)

"That is, the West received the worst of the news once it had already become mere ´history,´ thus dulling its emotional impact."

e.g. "At this point, what does it matter?"

I dunno, it seems the author could have made his point in about half the number of words. After a while, the constant droning of dull prose serves to lessen the impact of the message. It makes me wish Mark Steyn had written it.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Rinktum, 6/18/2013 8:39:57 AM     (No. 9381316)

Excellent article. Should be a must read.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: voxpop, 6/18/2013 8:45:48 AM     (No. 9381325)

[FTA]the response of most of the media may be summarized as follows: first, deny the story outright; second, accept that something happened, but claim that it has been blown out of proportion; third, admit that what happened was pretty bad, but insist that none of it is in any way traceable to the officials at the top of the hierarchy.

Any questions?

Just how long are we going to sit on our asses and let this continue unabated?

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Gretchen, 6/18/2013 9:56:56 AM     (No. 9381473)

What #4 said. Article is good, but could´ve been said in lots fewer words.

Additionally, we all know this already. Do we need another hand-wringing session? How about some examples on how to defeat the propaganda? How about giving us some tools to push back.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: WAN2, 6/18/2013 10:17:21 AM     (No. 9381509)

A nation of children get their comeuppance.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: wilarrbie, 6/18/2013 3:08:08 PM     (No. 9382105)

Answer #6: until we have an effective leader that can rally us up of our asses. Those of us who care about these things are busy "pulling the wagon" by day and tired by night. Also - we worry about losing the goods we have worked so hard to acquire. Rocking the boat puts our stuff in danger. That´s why it´d be so hard to engage in a tax revolt. Something which would be very effective at getting our pols attentions.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Lawsy0, 6/19/2013 7:53:12 AM     (No. 9383000)

I will finish the entire article later but finally, someone has noted that JOHN DEWEY was possibly the worst thing to happen to American education since the founding of the country. Until now, of course. Take his decimal system and shove it.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Timber Queen, 6/19/2013 7:59:31 AM     (No. 9383006)

Its the idealogy, not Obama, Hillary or any of the gang. I´m afraid we are past a political solution, and the cultural solution will remain out of grasp until our society expierences a spiritual revival. And, those usually only happen in response to crisis and emergencies. Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: squid, 6/19/2013 8:08:01 AM     (No. 9383021)

#10, that is pretty funny. John Dewey did not invent the Dewey Decimal System. Melvil Dewey (a librarian) invented the Dewey Decimal System.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: LZK, 6/19/2013 8:29:19 AM     (No. 9383062)

I´m from the generation -- although very young at the time -- who witnessed the destruction of Pearl Harbor and got MAD and fought back....

I get tired of listening to the doom and gloomers tell US WE have no recourse and WE are doomed....

What is that??? Since when do Americans give up....

What do WE do about this -- you ask???

WE start at local levels and start sending conservatives to Washington DC. Conservatives who are interested in saving the country from career politicians who care more about their posteriors than the country WE live in....

There´s our start.....

LZK

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Reply 14 - Posted by: mulhaven, 6/19/2013 8:42:23 AM     (No. 9383091)

Revel writes of the insidiousness of those seeking ultimate power. Is he pessimistic and fatalistic, or is he admiring and hopeful? It is hard to tell. He doesn´t seem to expect any escape from the promised tyranny. Was it simply in his nature to surrender? I agree with those who see the defeatist attitude as counter-productive. Why must tyranny succeed? Can mankind not have optimism about its future? Can we not defeat those who would trample on us? Perhaps Revel was around for the Nazi invasion of Germany when many Frenchmen saw no chance of opposition and defeat of their enemy, and this may have tainted his apparent view of the inevitability of totalitarian government. Totalitarians are confident in having their jack-booted monolith dominate mankind. But this is not possible when they are confronted by freedom-loving people.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Michimatician47, 6/19/2013 9:17:41 AM     (No. 9383150)

L-Dotters should not be surprised that Revel offers no solutions. He was French. Being the smartest guy at the cafe sufficed.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: KarenJ1, 6/19/2013 9:29:44 AM     (No. 9383174)

I´m with #1 - what do we do about it? Between this article and the new book by Diana West I´m not feeling too good right now. I look and look for answers and find none. Other than voting and marching on Washington what are we to do? With the exception of a few, those in Washington refuse to do what is right for the country because of their own self-serving political interests. It is beyond frustrating and depressing to watch everything crumble around you when there is little, if anything, we can do. Maybe Mark Levin´s new book that is coming out in August will give us some ideas as to what to do.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: lana720, 6/19/2013 9:37:10 AM     (No. 9383198)

Agree #4. But, some people only get it if it is repeated over and over.
I am truly afraid for our country and those within it who are destroying it (and the one reading at the Brandenburg Gate right now).
God bless all the Tea Partiers in DC today!

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Reply 18 - Posted by: ilovedogs, 6/19/2013 9:47:58 AM     (No. 9383220)

#13 I remind myself daily the fat lady hasn´t sung yet.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: planetgeo, 6/19/2013 10:25:00 AM     (No. 9383333)

By definition, democracies perish when the majority of their citizens vote for people and policies that cause them to perish.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: RancherJack, 6/19/2013 10:53:01 AM     (No. 9383417)

I´d say the reason Democracy is dying is that we´re living in a Constitutional Republic. Not a democracy.

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Dr. James Thornwell, 1862 - “If they (the North) prevail, the whole character of the Government will be changed, and instead of a federal republic, the common agent of sovereign and independent States, we shall have a central despotism, with the notion of States forever abolished, deriving its powers from the will, and shaping its policy according to the wishes, of a numerical majority of the people; we shall have, in other words, a supreme, irresponsible democracy. The Government does not now recognize itself as an ordinance of God, and when all the checks and balances of the Constitution are gone, we may easily figure to ourselves the career and the destiny of this godless monster of democratic absolutism. The progress of regulated liberty on this continent will be arrested, anarchy will soon succeed, and the end will be a military despotism, which preserves order by the sacrifice of the last vestige of liberty.

Top that, readers

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Reply 21 - Posted by: PoliticalJunky, 6/19/2013 10:58:50 AM     (No. 9383433)

If only people who have paid no attention and have no idea what they are doing would refrain from voting.

Judges are my weak spot. Judges are reelected time after time by people who know nothing about their performance. I watch government closely, both state and federal, but I don´t watch the judges in our court system. I know this is wrong but I don´t quite know what to do about it. They are not identified as to political party so that is no help. I almost never vote for or against; I leave the judge portion blank. I try to do no harm. I wish other know nothings would do the same.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Butch59, 6/19/2013 12:07:12 PM     (No. 9383623)

As has been mentioned many times here and elsewhere, this nation is NOT supposed to be a Democracy, it is a Federal Republican form of government. Or, it´s supposed to be. However, there are those that are trying to make it a Democracy ( "progressives" and Dims). And history shows us what eventually happens to Democracies. They usually become tyrannical and are overturned by armed resurrection. And if this country continues down it´s current path, the same will happen here. It´s just a matter of time.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: hammondb3, 6/19/2013 12:45:00 PM     (No. 9383724)

I have not read the article, but I would say that step 1. is start using the word democracy more and more.

Nowhere in the founding documents will you find the word ´democracy´.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: doctorfixit, 6/19/2013 1:24:01 PM     (No. 9383815)

Socialism and totalitarianism are inseparable. Socialism is a transition stage to oligarchy or dictatorship. We are in transition. We have an illegitimate political system and an illegitimate government. Both political parties serve the ruling class. Thus, politics cannot solve the fundamental struggle for freedom against totalitarian socialism. It will require non-violent revolution.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: gator, 6/19/2013 2:26:41 PM     (No. 9383950)

The article is not news to anyone other than Rip Van Winkle. The question is, as 1 points out, is what can or will be done about it, and we all know the sad answer to that. The young of this country will not see the light until it is far, far too late, and are being loaded onto cattle cars having outlived their usefulness to the rulers.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Illinois Resident, 6/19/2013 2:55:13 PM     (No. 9384004)

If getting the word out is important, how do we get rid of the Obama-loving, lie, & cover up main stream media? They are all so rapped up in their "new religion" of the "progressive agenda" they are methodical robots who forever regurgitate the agenda without thinking.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Lawsy0, 6/19/2013 3:13:43 PM     (No. 9384031)

What a great article. It prints out to 6 pages and worth the ink. I heard a PTA president once say that the decimal system was the work of John--while Librarians since times long past knew that was false, but they don´t get PTA presidents from the top of the pile.

What hurts my heart is how complicit the news gathering media has been in seeing that Communism happens and freedom disappears. AND, it was all part of the grand design.


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Reply 28 - Posted by: Rafter, 6/19/2013 5:55:03 PM     (No. 9384285)

Well, here´s an idea you won´t like one bit... (I can predict)...

One problem is the completely erroneous, and in fact quite nutty, and even dishonest...
notion that... "all men are created equal."

This is a stupid lie that many promote...
(authored by Jefferson, the DimWit Party founder and hypocritical slave owner)...

Would you or I qualify for the NBA?
No... of course not.
Case closed.
People are not equal.
Even "identical twins" are not equal (I worked with two guys, "ID" twins, who were
obviously not the same, although similar).

The DimWitz suck up to Jefferson´s Declaration lie... and try to make all equal through coercive Gummint policy.

End the nutty lying notion of "equality."
The stupid French promoted it in their revolution...
"Egalite, Fraternite, Liberte" or whatever the spelling and exact phrasing...

Even Rush stupidly promotes this nutty lie on his radio show.
It´s pure BS.
Get over it.
Screw "equality."

We will NEVER have freedom if we falsely insist on this false idea that "equality"
is even remotely a possibility.

There will never be equality...
Even science knows clones are not identical.
Biology prevents it.
Our survival depends upon our inequality and non-identicalness.
That is why we have a constant remix of genes through sexual reproduction.

GAWD must have wanted us to be inherently unequal.
Thanks be to GAWD.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: ArtieC, 6/19/2013 6:38:23 PM     (No. 9384339)

America isn´t a democracy. But I understand the premise.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: sw penn, 6/19/2013 8:04:36 PM     (No. 9384447)

Make A Difference...

Term Limits!

No, not for politicians...

For Bureaucrats!

Limit the permanent shadow government.

No Retirement or pensions for any government employees.

You wanna see how fast a government can shrink?

Or, do you just want to talk about it?

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Mother of AL, 6/19/2013 8:39:57 PM     (No. 9384480)

Alas....the article is long. Too bad the author could not write in the truncated manner of our SESAME STREET influenced generations of today..instead writing in the intelligent manner of our betters.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: Elvira, 6/19/2013 9:14:55 PM     (No. 9384505)

AND THAT! Ladies and entlemen is why I am NO. 1 FAN OF #13!!!

Buck up, get off your backsides and MOVE!!

#28 Has totally missed the point of all beimg created equal. Equal BUT different. We all have the aame RIGHTS!.. Sheesh, I don´t have time or patience to explain it. Our educatuin system is one of he top 5 things to be overhauled!

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Elvira, 6/19/2013 9:17:41 PM     (No. 9384510)

And tbat post is why I should be using a computer and not a Nook! ;-D

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Reply 34 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 6/19/2013 10:37:35 PM     (No. 9384592)

Perhaps.....perhaps...the solution lies in the ´laboratory of liberty´ envisioned by our F.F´s to wit: Let each state enact the laws as it´s citizens sees fit and let the populace vote with their feet.

Meta-Data = Get on down to Texas and help us dry-gulch ´em from the bluffs as the scurvy dawgs cross the Red River.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: Tianne, 6/19/2013 11:13:33 PM     (No. 9384638)

Excellent article - worth every word.

FTA: "On September 11, 2012, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton did what collectivist tyrants do -- and then they did the other thing collectivist tyrants do, namely lie shamelessly about their actions. The facts, the witnesses, and the gaping holes in the administration´s lies were all available from the outset. The ´free press´ pursued none of these, instead actively obfuscating the facts, burying the witnesses, and dutifully disseminating the lies. They wished to save the re-election campaign of inhuman creatures, and in doing so they masked the even deeper horror that full and immediate revelation might have exposed, namely that inhuman brutality is is no anomaly among Marxist-progressives, but rather the raison d´être of progressivism itself."

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Reply 36 - Posted by: Dodge Boy, 6/19/2013 11:31:54 PM     (No. 9384664)

In re #1, if you consider the November election outcome, we aren´t interested in doing anything about it. I speak to the repub sheep, dim sheep, and indy sheep who thought it was more important to make a statement..and not vote.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: Bla Bla, 6/20/2013 3:59:55 AM     (No. 9384759)

I´ve always thought our national equality is in our life & access to God, and our human dignity rights given to us by that same God & not a government.

But I dunno #28 . . . you might be on to something. All the Special Ed/challenged people I know are far more connected to "GAWD" than I am. So, you may actually have a point . . .

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Townhall, by Guy Benson    Original Article
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President Obama addressed the White House press corps today, announcing that with the final numbers in, Obamacare´s exchanges have attracted eight million sign-ups -- 35 percent of whom are "under the age of 35," he said. Several elements of his comments were misleading: (1) At first blush, the 35 percent stat is both significant and impressive. As recently as last month, the share of "young invincibles" signing up for plans was struggling in the 25 percent range, far short of the actuarial target of nearly 40 percent. A leap into the mid-30´s, while still shy of the goal, would constitute a major step, and would bode well for the risk pools'

The Folly Of The Bundy Ranch Rebellion
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The Federalist, by Grace Olmstead    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 4:21:46 AM     Post Reply
It’s the stuff of Westerns: a showdown on the desert plains, the big bad government against an underdog farmer. Though the story has only grabbed national headlines in the past several days, rancher Cliven Bundy has illegally grazed cattle on the Nevada land surrounding his farm for over 20 years. He hasn’t paid grazing fees since 1993, and refuses to renew the necessary grazing permit.(Snip)Rather than using the avenues and pathways presented to him, Bundy has staunchly declared his own law and allegiances. Unfortunately, reality doesn’t work this way. If only it did—we could rebel for paying stupid taxes, refuse to

Students Demand Acknowledgement of
Robert E. Lee´s ´Racist and Dishonorable Conduct´

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Breitbart´s Big Government, by AWR Hawkins    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/18/2014 12:35:28 PM     Post Reply
A group of seven multiracial Washington and Lee University (W&L) students are demanding the school remove all Confederate flags from campus and "acknowledge" General Robert E. Lee´s "dishonorable side." According to the Roanoke Times, "seven multiracial students, calling themselves ´The Committee,´" have also demanded the school "acknowledge and apologize for participating in chattel slavery." They want recognition of "Martin Luther King Jr. Day on the undergraduate campus" and an end to "neo-Confederates" marching across campus "to the Lee Chapel on Lee-Jackson Day." The students say they will "engage in civil disobedience" if their demands are not met by September 1st. They added: "The

White House blames fox for
destroying Michelle’s garden

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Daily Caller, by Vince Coglianese    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 3:59:04 PM     Post Reply
The White House is going to war with another fox — and this time, it’s personal. The Wall Street Journal reports that a red fox has been causing chaos around the White House, tripping security alarms, digging up Michelle’s garden and distracting the president from his duties. The Secret Service won’t give any details about how often the fox trips the White House’s obviously sophisticated security alarms, but rest assured, officials say, they’re watching. President Obama was apparently “stunned” to see the fox roaming freely down the oft-photographed White House colonnade, home to the world’s shortest, but most dramatic, outdoor strolls. The bushy-tailed visitor

Living in the New York Times World
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American Thinker, by J. Paul Masko    Original Article
Posted By: magnante- 4/19/2014 7:48:36 AM     Post Reply
I began reading the entirety of the first section of the New York Times at nine years old, and continued that practice, more or less, for decades.(snip) ...the power of reverence, intrinsic to what I call the “cascade” of The Times: the near avalanche-like flow and distribution of information through electronic and print networks: through like-minded network newscasts, magazines, local newspaper s, blogs, daytime talk TV, late-night entertainment, statements at media award ceremonies, the celebrity Twitterverse, etc. The cascade rolls through Saturday Night Live, Jon Stewart, The New Yorker, the mouths of third-grade teachers, Elmo, Madonna and Susan Sarandon …through

In a Hole, Golf Considers
Digging a Wider One

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New York Times, by Bill Pennington    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/19/2014 10:48:33 AM     Post Reply
GREENSBORO, Ga. — Golf holes the size of pizzas. Soccer balls on the back nine. A mulligan on every hole. These are some of the measures — some would say gimmicks — that golf courses across the country have experimented with to stop people from quitting the game. Golf has always reveled in its standards and rich tradition. But increasingly a victim of its own image and hidebound ways, golf has lost five million players in the last decade, according to the National Golf Foundation, with 20 percent of the existing 25 million golfers apt to quit in the next few years. People under 35 have especially spurned the game, saying it takes too

Obama: ´For me, Easter is a story of hope,
a belief in a better day to come´

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Investor´s Business Daily, by Andrew Malcolm    Original Article
Posted By: SurferLad- 4/19/2014 9:16:36 AM     Post Reply
Hi, everybody. For millions of Americans, this time of year holds great meaning. Earlier this week, we hosted a Passover Seder at the White House, and joined Jewish families around the world in their re-tellings of the story of the Exodus and the victory of faith over oppression. And this Sunday, Michelle, Malia, Sasha, and I will join our fellow Christians around the world in celebrating the Resurrection of Christ, the salvation he offered the world, and the hope that comes with the Easter season. These holy days have their roots in miracles that took place long ago. And yet, they still inspire us, guide us, and strengthen us today. They remind us of our

Harry Reid calls dissident Nevada ranchers
´domestic terrorists´ following show of
force against the federal government

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Daily Mail [UK], by David Martosko    Original Article
Posted By: Attercliffe- 4/19/2014 9:29:17 AM     Post Reply
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Thursday that a family of dissident ranchers and their supporters in his home state of Nevada are ´domestic terrorists,´ citing this week´s standoff with the federal government´s Bureau of Land Management. Cliven Bundy has refused to pay grazing fees for land where his hundreds of cattle roam every day. The land is owned by the federal government, which says he owes more than $1 million. Bundy, however, insists that since his family has been using the land since the 1870s, Uncle Sam can´t collect the grazing fees. A tense standoff developed this week after

Pelosi assists in Holy Week
foot-washing ritual

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San Francisco Chronicle, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: Harlowe- 4/18/2014 11:46:54 AM     Post Reply
To "honor the dignity and work of immigrants," Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi helps Bishop Marc Andrus wash the feet of two children Thursday at Saint John the Evangelist Episcopal Church in San Francisco. Pelosi also used the occasion to talk about passing HR15 - bipartisan immigration legislation that her office says would "reduce the deficit by nearly $1 trillion, secure our borders, unite our families, protect our workers and provide an earned pathway to citizenship." The Democratic leader´s ceremony coincides with Pope Francis´ similar ceremony in Rome to mark Holy Week.

Ted Cruz, Invoking Reagan,
Angers GOP Colleagues
but Wins Fans Elsewhere

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Wall Street Journal, by Monica Langley    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/19/2014 8:09:17 AM     Post Reply
WASHINGTON--Rushing to an afternoon vote last month, Sen. Ted Cruz hopped the underground tram to the U.S. Capitol from his office across the street. The Texan planted his black ostrich cowboy boots in the middle of the small subway car without getting so much as a nod from the other senators--Republican or Democrat--amiably chatting or huddled in their seats. Mr. Cruz finds himself standing alone a lot these days. His response to the cold shoulders: "The establishment despised Ronald Reagan" before he became president, "but the people loved him." For the 43-year-old Republican, the Reagan name illuminates his political life´s

Deadbeat on the Range
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New York Times, by Timothy Eagan    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 3:52:52 PM     Post Reply
Imagine a vendor on the National Mall, selling burgers and dogs, who hasn’t paid his rent in 20 years. He refuses to recognize his landlord, the National Park Service, as a legitimate authority. Every court has ruled against him, and fines have piled up. What’s more, the effluents from his food cart are having a detrimental effect on the spring grass in the capital. Would an armed posse come to his defense, aiming their guns at the park police? Would the lawbreaker get prime airtime on Fox News, breathless updates in the Drudge Report, a sympathetic ear from Tea Party Republicans?


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