Politico’s Playbook has an excerpt from a new Ryan Lizza piece from the New Yorker that is not yet online. It contains a passage on the back-and-forth between labor and the Chamber that has a quote from a Rubio staffer that is going to raise eyebrows, to say the least: “There are American workers who, for lack of a better term, can’t cut it. There shouldn’t be a presumption that every American worker is a star performer. There are people who just can’t get it, can’t do it, don’t want to do it. And so you can’t obviously discuss that publicly.” Here is the entire context:
Comments: Dog whistle. Sounds like Chris Rock´s banned routine: 300 years of slavery. They could have given that work to a dozen Mexicans and they would have had it done in a month. Who do YOU think he´s talking about?
Please split headline properly as shown. LCom Staff.
Hey Rube, You can´t cut it dufus. Your suppose to be "smarter that the average bear". You´ve shown an unusual lack of judgement associating with a pile of Schumer. What, didn´t you notice the stench when you stepped in it?
Those who can´t (or usually just won´t) ´´cut it´´ get the lousy jobs, the poor wages. Sure, illegals are willing to do those jobs at a higher standard for poor pay but only until they can get something better. Amnesty is that something better. Then the modern ´´plantation owners´´ have to find a whole set of illegals to exploit. And they will have to as their crappy business models always seems to require some sort of government help: federally-supplied water, federal crop quotas, federally-supplied Mexicans, etc. In the end these business models may supply extravagantly subsidized goods (like $2 a pint strawberries) but those below-the-true-cost-of-production goods are paid for by the rest of society.
1. That situation didn´t first crop up in the last 20 years. There have always been incompetents. 2. And it´s one of the reasons why people who can "cut it" [and more] build machines. In 10 years, Roomba mowers will be cutting 80% of our lawns anyway. 3. Still no reason to give amnesty to illegals. 4. Do you know the average IQ of Hispanics in the US, Marco? Do you think our best engineering schools, med schools, etc., are chock-full of the kids of illegals? 5. And who comes here is to be decided by America´s citizens, not by the illegal aliens who don´t respect us or our institutions enough to follow the legal path that´s long been in place. 6. And, uhh, there are plenty of legislators who can´t cut it. Any suggestions?
#10, #11: Thanks very much to you both. I was expecting brickbats over raising the IQ issue [into which I have looked a number of times over many years; the real numbers are shocking]. The brickbats may yet come. But if someone wants to argue it, I´m invoking my "two lunches rule." [Bring two lunches, ´cause I´m gonna eat yours.]
Back to #10 and #11 -- I take my chosen screen name very seriously. And thanks again.
Where I teach has quite a few illegal aliens and I can tell you, there are some real smarties in the bunch. That said, I take your point #7, just not sure it´s the best way to win the argument.
For me it is all about "rule of law." We are nothing without it. This bill throws it out the window and rewards all those who have whizzed on it all these years. The "other" California VDH writes so powerfully about will be the new status quo, country-wide, if this bill is passed.
Rubio is pushing a liberal Democrat written amnesty and path to citizenship bill that if it passes into law is going to flood the legal US job market with up to 20 million legalized aliens within a few months. That action is bound to adversely effect the ability of American workers to find jobs, their working conditions, and the wages that they earn. When that starts to happen, Rubio is going to find out that American workers can vote and that they do not like tens of millions of cheap foreign laborers allowed into the USA to take their jobs and lower their wages. After that happens Rubio will probably find himself in deep political trouble.
You can thank Reagan and both Bushes for not securing the border and many are here under the Reagan Program. This bill helps locate them , give them a number via work permits and provides a process to begin correcting the problem. It does not give a path to ctizenship. Aplications for citizenship are take up in order made either within or without the USA. This bill gives no priority path to citizenship.
I need some clarification...if this bill is to bring these people out of the shadows so we know who they are and they can work legally....but...not allow them on welfare or be eligible for Obamacare etc.
Doesn´t that put us right back to 11-20M uninsured persons? Are they all going to get private insurance or never become sick?
AND...if employers are off the hook for insurance, the group effected most adversely will be legal residents and Blacks in lower skilled service jobs.
Aren´t politicians supposed to uphold the law? They seem hell-bent on approving people who broke the law migration-wise. It´s insulting, too, for a politician or his aide to suggest that a certain group of people is superior to another in terms of work suitability.
Every population cohort has members out on the right tail of the curve -- but again, I have the numbers, and comparing groups, the fraction out there will be a larger or smaller percentage from group to group. Some groups have a far smaller fraction out in Smartland than do other groups. Look at Jewish "over-representation" among Nobel science prize recipients. [I´m not Jewish.]
My post #7 point 4 isn´t an attempt to win the argument [it has 3 preceding points after all], but neither can the point always be omitted. It´s part of the whole picture.
Also, my point 5 agrees with you, as do at least 3 or 4 of my posts every week. Our laws [properly] say it´s our decision who gets legalized, not the illegal aliens´ decision! And a second point  in my post #7 also puts the legal issue at the top by raising it twice. Thanks for the chance to clarify.
As a libertarian Republican the statement actually sickens me - because in many respect he IS talking about unemployed blacks. Somewhere you have to get unemployed Americans into jobs that they actually report to and do so that they, and more importantly, their children, understand that that is what is normal. Maybe that´s how you get them to "cut it". And letting several million immigrants wrongfully claim those jobs isn´t how you get them to "cut it" - keeping the several million immigrants from taking those jobs, and putting pressure on the labor market so it becomes attractive to hire those who purportedly don´t cut it, is a start, on a very long arduous road. The immigration bill is not.
Rubio has been a disappointment to me. I don´t think he understands the underlying principles he claims to espouse and this is a glaring example.
Going the full Romney, it seems. Romney pretty much lost the election when he made his private speech about the 47%, a stupid speech if there ever was one because it indicated huge contempt for the voters. Rubio is now following in the Great Man´s footsteps, signalling his contempt for the American worker whom amnesty is designd to replace.
Beat it, Rubio. You don´t measure up. You are an election loser if there ever was one.
Hispanics can afford to work for lower wages because their cost of living is so cheap.If a baby momma is on welfare,the government picks up the bulk of the household expenses,so whatever that´s left over is gravy,especially if it´s under the table money.
The question to me is if these people get amnesty will they even work at all or will we have to bring in more illegals?
You could probably kill this bill in no time if you floated the rumor that the amnesty crowd will have to start paying FICA and income taxes on their jobs.
#24 I don´t think Romney´s remark about the 47% showed ´huge contempt for the voters´. He was speaking of the 47% who do not pay taxes and are not invested in the country´s economy. He was never going to get their votes and neither will any other Republican. Rubio is a sellout who is convinced he is right. He is a very big disappointment but it´s better to know who he is now then after he is elected President.
The part of the problem that no one speaks about is the fact that unemployment is affected by the cost paid by businesses to employ people. That´s why unemployment is so high right now. If a business can´t afford to hire because the cost of employing someone is too high (read ´soaring taxes´ there) that still won´t get anyone -anyone- that job. Hello????
That means businesses still will not hire and there will be millions of unemployed, newly legal citizens. See? Just because they are legal won´t make me hire them...I can´t afford to hire someone now. Get it yet, Marco?
Fact of the matter is this: the Senate is clearly filled with people -including Rubio- who have very stupid ideas. They are out of touch with reality. Clueless. They need to be fired and replaced.
Those people that can´t "cut it" shouldn´t be allowed to vote. They are what´s screwing up things to a great degree. Obama would never have gotten elected in the first place if weren´t for the low-info votes of these losers.
If American workers can´t cut it, it´s because of the public indoctrination schools and the libtards encouraging everyone to be on food stamps and welfare to ´do whatever they want to do in life´ (according to Peelousy).
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Fiesta del sol, 6/17/2013 6:50:59 AM (No. 9379487)
It´s totally believable that Rubio has people who think this way working for him. Rubio hitched his wagon to the Gang of 8 member who said "We´re going to tell these bigots to shut up´ during the last amnesty cram down. I speak of the esteemed Lindsey Graham.
Yesterday I read an article on the web that reported former AG Ed Meese (Reagan´s AG), has said the exact same promises of border security, no welfare benefits, no citizenship etc. we´re made in 1986 to the voters and President Reagan. Meese says we should learn from that mistake and not believe these promises will ever be fulfilled. The only result will be repeat amnesty and more influx of illegals to get in on the next round of amnesty in the future, according to Meese.
I´m in the construction business and years ago there were black framing crews, black concrete crews, black roofing crews, black concrete truck drivers but not any longer. All those jobs have taken over by Mexicans. Why black Democrats support the gang of 8 amnesty is beyond me. I guess they have lost the ability to think critically. Everything the Democrats do hurts the black community but they can´t see it.
We, the USA, have been complicit and turned a blind eye towards this phenomenon of illegal migration that has been unfolding before our very eyes. Our economy has enjoyed the low wages and $1.69 head of lettuce it has brought. Rule of law is fine, but we cannot shrug off all responsibility over night. A more sensible and equitable option would be to restrict citizenship to only those who were born here or were brought here before the age of 18. The closer you were to 18 when you came here, longer is the path. Those who have worked here and played by the rules could be legalized and enjoy all the privileges of a green card holder for the rest of their lives. ONLY after sealing the border. IMO this will never get past the first base because the fundamental goal of the Democrat Party is to add fodder to the welfare state rolls. Compassion, justice, fairness are all as usual a refuge of scoundrels.
#26 “...Hispanics can afford to work for lower wages because their cost of living is so cheap.If a baby momma is on welfare,the government picks up the bulk of the household expenses,so whatever that´s left over is gravy,especially if it´s under the table money…
The same could be said for Blacks. What makes the difference? Work ethic! Hispanics, for the most part, are still conditioned to work for a living. Fifty years of riding on the welfare and entitlement system has resulted in the belief that hard work is demeaning and ‘the White man’s game.´
Could some of you Ldotters help me out. I have been hearing the 11 million to 20 million figure for the number of criminal alien invaders in this country since I was a teenager and I am now fifty-six. Is that really the number? Just looking around me here in The Republic of Texas, the invaders have increased dramatically in just the last few years. Although I have nothing to base it on besides a gut feeling; my bet is that there are about sixty million of them.
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