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NSA admits listening
to U.S. phone calls
without warrants

CNet, by Declan McCullagh

Original Article

Posted By:ronbet, 6/16/2013 8:18:16 AM

The National Security Agency has acknowledged in a new classified briefing that it does not need court authorization to listen to domestic phone calls. Rep. Jerrold Nadler, a New York Democrat, disclosed this week that during a secret briefing to members of Congress, he was told that the contents of a phone call could be accessed "simply based on an analyst deciding that." If the NSA wants "to listen to the phone," an analyst´s decision is sufficient, without any other legal authorization required, Nadler said he learned.

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So much for Barack Omama´s lie of transparency. If not for leakers we would not know how very bad we have been lied to and how very bad our government has become.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: JAN, 6/16/2013 8:25:49 AM     (No. 9378422)

Really hard to believe.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: gasmeterguy, 6/16/2013 8:32:07 AM     (No. 9378430)

But Obama said "no one is listening to your phone calls".

Someone is lying. Guess who?

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Reply 3 - Posted by: lazyman, 6/16/2013 8:32:25 AM     (No. 9378432)

Chilling.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: truthfetish, 6/16/2013 9:02:19 AM     (No. 9378487)

From a techie news site. NOT the Times, NOT the Post. (NOT surprised.)

FTA: NSA records the phone calls of 500,000 to 1 million people who are on its so-called target list, and perhaps even more. "They look through these phone numbers and they target those and that´s what they record," ...

[T]he cost to store all domestic phone calls a year in cloud storage for data-mining purposes would be about $27 million per year ... NSA´s annual budget is classified but is estimated to be around $10 billion.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: lydwho, 6/16/2013 9:14:30 AM     (No. 9378510)

If this were a "secret briefing" where does that tub of lard Nadler get off blabbing to the public????

Art

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Keekng, 6/16/2013 9:15:05 AM     (No. 9378513)

Thank you, Rep Nadler, for sharing what you were told in a "secret" briefing.
Leaky Leahy has competition.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: envirodude, 6/16/2013 9:27:19 AM     (No. 9378537)

#2 - You and I must have missed the press release when the NSA told everybody they were changing their name to "no one"

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Reply 8 - Posted by: EQKimball, 6/16/2013 9:35:59 AM     (No. 9378554)

Suppose someday the government could eliminate almost all terrorism with a "God machine" that could read our thoughts. Millions of people would be randomly surveyed daily. Suspects could never lie to the police. Our secrets would be an open book. Would it be worth it? Is public safety worth any price?

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Reply 9 - Posted by: FlatCityGirl, 6/16/2013 9:43:29 AM     (No. 9378564)

I read something like this and in my head, I keep going back to the article that was posted here [and which Rush read on air] regarding the fact that not one document or spoken word can be traced back to Hitler, directing the genocide Jews and other undesirables.

I keep going back to ValJar´s threat of punishing anyone and everyone who was against them.

Do you really think NSA isn´t looking at you and me? Do you really think those of us who refer to the Kenyan Thug as a Kenyan Thug aren´t known to the Powers That Be.

I used to think that. I used to think that not one living soul would care about anything a sixty-something grandmother in Texas would have to say. Now? Not so much.

It´s more understandable now why the Boston Bombers were over looked.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: G-Tom, 6/16/2013 9:56:32 AM     (No. 9378583)

Who approved this and when was he/she terminated and when does he/she go on trial????

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Reply 11 - Posted by: billp, 6/16/2013 10:09:21 AM     (No. 9378601)

Exactly #9, these snoops (to use a nice term) are too busy collecting information on American citizens to look for real problems. We don´t need all this ´surveillance,´ we already know murderers, rapists and other crooks walk the streets daily because of liberal policies and courts. Why does the government not go after them first? Because that doesn´t enhance their political power over the real producers and taxpayers in this country - they need the bad guys in circulation to convince the good guy that all this ´watching´ is necessary.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: MattMusson, 6/16/2013 10:10:20 AM     (No. 9378604)

We KNEW this was happening. Their denials just confirmed it! And, now they have to fess up.

I have a friend who works at the state driver´s license bureau. He is always looking up information on celebrities or aquaintenances - just because he can.

So, you can rest assured that the NSA is listening in on Kim Kardashian types for fun - and the Federal Reserve Chairman Bernake for profit!

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Reply 13 - Posted by: TulsaTowner, 6/16/2013 10:12:22 AM     (No. 9378608)

And ANYbody the administration wants to control or destroy ----

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Reply 14 - Posted by: southernboy, 6/16/2013 10:16:54 AM     (No. 9378615)

And, like they said, it just takes one phone call, even a wrong number, or innocently clicking on a link that takes you to a ´suspicious site,’ to get their attention drawn to you. Once that happens everything you’ve said over the phone or wrote on your computer, every link you’ve clicked on, every forum... is subject to analysis and/or judgement. And keep in mind…in their minds you are already guilty and their searching of your activities is only to prove what they have already decided.


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Reply 15 - Posted by: MattMusson, 6/16/2013 10:38:31 AM     (No. 9378649)

INSIDER TRADING ALERT.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: strike3, 6/16/2013 10:40:41 AM     (No. 9378654)

Fine. Now which period during the past fifty years are you admitting to?

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Reply 17 - Posted by: zephyrgirl, 6/16/2013 11:07:48 AM     (No. 9378696)

Imagine the outrage if this had happened during the Bush administration.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: ruready?, 6/16/2013 11:10:33 AM     (No. 9378701)

Lucianne,

Have you been served with a warrent to share with our government who is who on this site?

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Reply 19 - Posted by: god of irony, 6/16/2013 11:58:59 AM     (No. 9378781)

What disturbs me the most is the so-called Americans working NSA that don´t to seem have a moral, ethical or patriotic problem with this.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Ubiquitousknight, 6/16/2013 12:18:54 PM     (No. 9378808)

Um, yes they can... In 2009 Janet Napolitano´s Homeland Security Assessment concluded that right wing extremist were the new threat to American security. It is now painfully obvious where that thought took the IRS, the DOJ, and the NSA. It also explains how our government failed to stop in advance Fort Hood, Benghazi, and Boston. They failed because they were not looking anything Islam, in fact they were looking for Republicans of mass destruction and little else.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: glcinpdx, 6/16/2013 12:31:53 PM     (No. 9378830)

And the libs complained that Bush was shredding the Constitution....he was a piker compared to this crew. The 4th Amendment is essentially dead.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: rosefenn, 6/16/2013 2:48:17 PM     (No. 9378953)

Well, this is good to know, because from now on whenever I make a phone call, I will be sure to use the phrase "The President is a big fat dope and the NSA is a bunch of bedwetters."

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Reply 23 - Posted by: FormerDem, 6/16/2013 8:46:37 PM     (No. 9379225)

You awful people. (the NSA)

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