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Pope Is Quoted Referring
to a Vatican ‘Gay Lobby’

New York Times, by Rachel Donadio

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Posted By:jackson, 6/13/2013 8:49:46 AM

ROME — For years, perhaps even centuries, it has been an open secret in Rome: That some prelates in the Vatican hierarchy are gay. But the whispers were amplified this week when Pope Francis himself, in a private audience, appears to have acknowledged what he called a “gay lobby” operating inside the Vatican, vying for power and influence. The remarks — which the Vatican spokesman did not deny and the participants at the private audience confirmed — appeared to be part of an effort by the pope to take on the entrenched interests in the Vatican

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Front page news at The Gay Lady. Rumor, second-hand, conjecture... no news. But oooh gah! its gay, gay, gay time 24/7 on 42nd street and the Pope noticed them!

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: mickturn, 6/13/2013 9:27:03 AM     (No. 9373786)

This new Pope is turning out to be another Socialist and Obama thinkalike.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: texaspast, 6/13/2013 9:27:18 AM     (No. 9373789)

The Times apparently thinks that merely BEING homosexual is a sin. They, and most of the ´gay lobby´ can´t imagine having an urge and not acting on it.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 6/13/2013 9:56:52 AM     (No. 9373850)

The decline in "Vocations" is directly related to the dominance of the Gay Lobby in the church. I attended a Catholic Prep-School/ Seminary in the 60´s and gave serious thought to the priesthood but was put off by the gay culture and the "Liberation Theology" which was so hip at the time.

I will always be a "Recovering Catholic" taking it one day at a time.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: jlw509, 6/13/2013 10:24:16 AM     (No. 9373908)

#1, Obama is against everything the Pope stands for, and vice-versa.

Other than that, thanks for sharing your ... um.... thoughts.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: bighambone, 6/13/2013 11:01:32 AM     (No. 9373970)

Is "openness" the answer, with a bunch of gay cardinals walking around holding hands free of being blackmailed, would that do the trick for the big problems in the Catholic Church hierarchy?

Something tells us that is not going to happen!

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Reply 6 - Posted by: lakerman1, 6/13/2013 11:24:20 AM     (No. 9374008)

Allowing priests to marry wouldn´t solve all of the problems - it would take several decades for those married priests to advance in the Church hierarchy - but it would help. (And, yes, I know that there would still be closeted priests, and some pedophiles, but it would be a better situation than exists today.)Priests were
allowed to be married up until about 1300 A.D., or thereabouts, and marriage was then forbidden because of problems with surviving wives of priests inheriting church property.
And for the past couple of decades, Episcopalian priests who left their denomination were ordained as Roman Catholic priests, even if married. But if the wife dies, the priest cannot remarry.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: plumnellie, 6/13/2013 4:20:53 PM     (No. 9374658)

A man that speaks the truth is the opposite to obama and other socialists. The Pope is candid and open. What a wonderful thing. I salute the Pope and am happy for my Catholic friends.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: mitzi, 6/13/2013 4:52:49 PM     (No. 9374728)

You would think the NYT would double check for updates or check the article´s source before printing. This is from yesterday morning.

Regarding the decision of “Reflexión y liberación” to publish the story, CLAR says that “in fact, no authorization was requested.”

“It is clear that, based on these facts, it cannot be attributed with certainty to the Holy Father, the specific expression contained in the text, but only in its general sense.”


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Reply 9 - Posted by: mitzi, 6/13/2013 7:16:20 PM     (No. 9374917)

It´s all been cleared up. The "gay lobby" is:

the posh, overly-decorated, overly-flamboyant lobby located at the southwest entrance

I can´t link to the blog ... but there is a photo if you want to go looking for it.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Coy860, 6/13/2013 7:23:28 PM     (No. 9374930)

Why weren´t they driven out of the Vatican, the way Jesus drove the money-changers out of the Temple?
Are we going to follow God´s teachings or aren´t we?
I don´t expect the Pope to be PC, just true to God´s word. Gay lobby? Not a good sign.

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