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Bystanders in their own fate
Orange County Register (Ca), by Mark Steyn

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Posted By:Desert Fox, 5/24/2013 5:32:34 PM

On Wednesday, Drummer Lee Rigby of the Royal Regiment of Fusiliers, a man who had served Queen and country honorably in the hell of Helmand Province in Afghanistan, emerged from his barracks on Wellington Street, named after the Duke thereof, in southeast London. Minutes later, he was hacked to death in broad daylight and in full view of onlookers by two men with machetes who crowed "Allahu Akbar!" as they dumped his carcass in the middle of the street like so much roadkill. As grotesque as this act of savagery was, the aftermath was even more unsettling

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Shimmer128, 5/24/2013 5:55:11 PM     (No. 9344249)

I salute you, Lee! And I wouldn´t have just stood by, at my own peril. I´m so sorry.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Jiobaobubai, 5/24/2013 6:18:05 PM     (No. 9344284)

Not a lot of Muslims want to go to the trouble of chopping your head off, but when so many Western leaders have so little rattling around up there, they don´t have to.

That´s a keeper.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: lilo, 5/24/2013 6:29:26 PM     (No. 9344295)

In all fairness to the bystanders, if they had so much as shouted at or attempted to restrain the attackers, they would have been mercilessly attacked by the so called leaders and crucified by the PCPress for not celebrating diversity, and being called bigots for misunderstanding the hi-jinks of diverse youth. Remember, this is a country that has jailed people for daring to attack invaders in their own homes.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Heil Liberals, 5/24/2013 6:30:02 PM     (No. 9344297)

As individual freedom is destroyed, both gradually and immediately, Muslims will fill the void. We have become a Western society that believes in nothing, holds nothing dear, and will sacrifice freedom for security. The multicultural progressives think they can make deals with Muslims. Unfortunately, the progressive bargaining chip, other people´s money, will not work with these people. Neither will platitudes of passivity that call for understanding and tolerance. The radical Muslims are not understanding and are intolerant. The bottom line is that THEY DON´T CARE HOW YOU FEEL! If you don´t feel and think like them, then you are dead.

This is what our children and grandchildren have to contend with as the POTUS unilaterally declares the war on terror over. God help our future.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: j9zig2009, 5/24/2013 7:03:55 PM     (No. 9344331)

I agree with Steyn of course... where are the fighters that would say "LET´S ROLL?" A couple of brave women try to help but can´t overpower these guys. I would even understand running away from the maniacs more than I can comprehend standing or sitting there looking at them and taking pictures. Insane. Well-trained. Don´t DO anything.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Ranger Applejack Dawson, 5/24/2013 7:47:57 PM     (No. 9344377)

If the Muslims in London had made the mistake to kill an American soldier on any street in my fair state of Texas, I reckon they´d be picking up his sorry carcass in protective gear to avoid lead poisoning from all the bullets in his hide

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Reply 7 - Posted by: fotomom557, 5/24/2013 8:24:03 PM     (No. 9344410)

#6 ... God Bless Texas. The same can be said for Redneck SC. We would´ve handled the Muslim Terrorists and asked questions later.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: dvc, 5/24/2013 9:05:34 PM     (No. 9344437)

In the disarmed US states and in the UK, a man with a knife is the master.
There are many of us in the free states of America that are armed and would not stand for this. Hoping for infinite and eternal good will from every person you will ever meet not a sane plan.

How is is possible that the press and politicians continue to defend this vicious, barbaric, death cult as "the religion of peace" when the facts say otherwise, again and again?

Who will you believe, the bloody corpses and crying mothers, wives and children or the press and politicians?

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 5/24/2013 9:37:00 PM     (No. 9344468)

#3, well, then it is time for those people to get up and shout at their government, too, because if that is life, it is not worth living.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: get er done, 5/24/2013 10:14:52 PM     (No. 9344511)

Re # 7 and & posts -- the same is true in all open/concealed carry state, aka the real United States.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: altoona, 5/24/2013 10:59:27 PM     (No. 9344530)

Wow, one-tenth of Britons under 25 is muslim. That´s a fast-moving freight train there.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: smcchk, 5/24/2013 11:36:31 PM     (No. 9344541)

I have never seen much of Europe and I probably never will. I don´t consider it to be very safe.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: harper, 5/25/2013 2:25:17 AM     (No. 9344615)

Brits still have the right stuff, if in diminishing volume.

I would bet that a number of men who were thinking about taking those 2 muzzie nutbars on were at that scene held back by concern about how the police and media would destroy them for any act of bravery beyond the womanly role of nurturing the dying.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: planetgeo, 5/25/2013 7:46:37 AM     (No. 9344754)

Bystanders in their own fate? Well, then we´re not that far off ourselves, are we?

Our ambassador and two Seals get murdered over several hours by a rampaging mob, and President Bystander does nothing. Nor do Media Bystanders.

Dozens of people get blown up in Boston, and weeks later one of the perpetrators has a growing fan club of girls who think he´s cute.

Citizen groups and journalists get spied on and threatened, and Citizen Bystanders go ho-hum.

What the heck has happened to everyone?

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Rusino, 5/25/2013 7:47:54 AM     (No. 9344758)

The Wirld is upside down! It seems there is no one strong enough or smart enoughntomturn it right side up.

A few years ago I was sure that The United States of America could but that was before The Transformation.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Kitty Myers, 5/25/2013 7:53:12 AM     (No. 9344765)

The Daily Caller asks the question: Why did British bystanders watch a soldier get hacked to death?

The answer is sickening.

Here´s L.com thread: http://www.lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=737263

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Reply 17 - Posted by: gaemerson, 5/25/2013 8:17:48 AM     (No. 9344791)

Will Briton now have a month long government investigation on banning knives and cleavers? You know people don´t kill but knives and cleavers do (oh yes and pressure cookers). How were these peaceful muslims (there I said it) hurt in a gun fight??? Hurt?? Gun ??

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Reply 18 - Posted by: cyberspace cadet, 5/25/2013 8:18:18 AM     (No. 9344793)

Islam, the religion of piece. They leave a piece of you in the street, on the bus, below decks of the USS Cole, and covering the ground in New York, Shanksville, PA and Washington, DC.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: gaemerson, 5/25/2013 8:19:56 AM     (No. 9344795)

Sorry got ahead on myself on posting I ment to add that in Texas we consider gun control learning to aim accurately

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Reply 20 - Posted by: ramona, 5/25/2013 8:44:15 AM     (No. 9344823)

And those ever-so-polite-Brits have already arrested an 85 yr. old WW II survivor for hurling - guess what - insults at a Mosque. Guess she told the animals to go home.

If this don´t cause a massive outbreak of cognitive dissonance, ain´t nuthin will.

Ramona (the Pest)

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Reply 21 - Posted by: M2, 5/25/2013 8:56:49 AM     (No. 9344835)

Vintage Steyn:

This passivity set the tone for what followed. In London as in Boston, the politico-media class immediately lapsed into the pneumatic multiculti Tourette´s that seems to be a chronic side-effect of excess diversity-celebrating: No Islam to see here, nothing to do with Islam, all these body parts in the street are a deplorable misinterpretation of Islam. The BBC´s Nick Robinson accidentally described the men as being "of Muslim appearance," but quickly walked it back lest impressionable types get the idea that there´s anything "of Muslim appearance" about a guy waving a machete and saying "Allahu Akbar."

And Ft. Hood Major Hasan of "workplace violence" fame, has received $278,000 salary in the three-and-a-half years since he got arrested. Talk about blindness.

Of course, Hasan´s workplace violence also had nothing to do with Islam, just a bastardization of it.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: LZK, 5/25/2013 9:01:57 AM     (No. 9344842)

Lee Rigby -- Churchill would have been proud to stand with you....on the sidewalk, on the street -- and done so with Britain´s love of country....

These weasels who hacked a human being into the presense of God -- will pay when THEY come to God.

AND -- people wonder how Hitler could kill millions of Jews. It´s in/human. Yes -- but some amongst US are evil...

It was promised that evil would walk amongst US when the dark one comes....

It´s here!!

LZK

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Reply 23 - Posted by: RedLegLeader68, 5/25/2013 9:14:13 AM     (No. 9344863)

What #6 said! Please add Georgia to your list!

Lock and Load!

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Reply 24 - Posted by: dolphin, 5/25/2013 9:25:50 AM     (No. 9344879)

Guns would be best #6, but if you don´t have guns, why not use ordinary objects as weapons to try to stop the murders? What kind of people were these bystanders? Has our "entertainmnent" really taught us that murder is amusing? Why weren´t those animals torn limb from limb by the crowd after such an act? Was the crowd rooting them on?

Have we come to the point where it´s too late to defend ourselves? Are we walking meekly to slaughter?

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Reply 25 - Posted by: O.S. Banker, 5/25/2013 9:30:08 AM     (No. 9344886)

As usual, Steyn nails it. As usual our the LSM will poo-poo his observations if they acknowledge them at all. As usual our politicians will tisk-tisk our concerns that our tolerance is getting us killed.

What to do?
1) Practice concealed carry, always.
2) Remember the old adage that it is better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.
3) Avoid those areas where you are not allowed the security of self protection.
4) If you have to go to Britain, consider the benefits of a stylish walking stick.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Kitty Myers, 5/25/2013 9:44:32 AM     (No. 9344907)

#17 From the link I posted in #16:
While it is well known that Brits cannot carry guns, a lesser known law prohibits any subject of the Queen from carrying a knife of consequence, pepper spray or a stun gun.


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Reply 27 - Posted by: Nan, 5/25/2013 9:44:53 AM     (No. 9344908)

Unbelievable!

The fact that it took the police 20 minutes to even arrive on he scene is beyond comprehension. Also that the murderers hung around and waited for them, knowing that Britain has no death penalty and that they probably will get little jail time.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: Chuzzles, 5/25/2013 10:02:20 AM     (No. 9344939)

Forgive me if I spell her name wrong here, but I seem to recall a famous murder in NYC of a woman named Kitty Genovese. The people in her apartment building totally ignored her being murdered, closing their curtains and turning up the TV volume. Any Country that disarms their citizens can count on monsters like these 2 muslims popping up like a noxious weed to do harm.

The late Kings of England must be twirling in their tombs at what the great nation of Britain has allowed herself to become.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: oh-heck, 5/25/2013 10:14:34 AM     (No. 9344962)

Actually #8, disarmed is a state of mind. There was lunatic with a knife in a college north of Houston in the April randomly attacking individuals in the hall. A number of unarmed citizens sprinted after the shooter passing the armed security guard in pursuit. They tackled and restrained the suspect until the guard and backup could arrive.

I was so outraged at Obama´s anti-terror speech because his idea of a good defense is to give terrorists a public forum to gloat and to scrupulously defend the civil liberties of American Muslims. Prevention and immediate armed response are completely missing in the plan.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Lawsy0, 5/25/2013 10:18:41 AM     (No. 9344970)

Thank you note reads, Thank you Political Correctness, for cutting off Britain´s manhood.´´

I looked up one phrase mentioned in the piece and found ´´Dar al-Islam (organisation), a small non-profit organisation in New Mexico, USA´´ Wanna bet?

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Reply 31 - Posted by: mc squared, 5/25/2013 10:30:49 AM     (No. 9344994)

Remember this: it took 20 minutes for the police to arrive. I figure that in that time, a couple of dozen others could have been hacked to pieces.

So blow your safety whistles and call 911 because without a gun you´re going to die.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: starboard, 5/25/2013 10:35:15 AM     (No. 9345007)

Wake up Britian. You´ve lost your soul as a nation. Unless you enforce hardball tactics in dealing with these subhumans, you´re culture is doomed.

I pray we can get back on the right track after Obama and not be afraid to stand up to terrorists. We need to put some teeth into law enforcement go hard on all terrorist, home grown or foreign. I would also like to see them repeal the Miranda rights rule. Liberalism is destroying the world and it needs to be dealt with.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: RancherJack, 5/25/2013 10:40:07 AM     (No. 9345012)

#3 - Men of god bones do not just stand by and scream like little girls with their knickers in a bunch.

The most dangerous man in a fight is one who already knows how to fight and when. And will.

I am appalled there were Brits who stood by and let this happen uncontested.

Flip this around - this starts to happen to a Crip or Blood and his home boys are on the streets around him. A couple of White Power gang members grab one and start to go to town ...

.. think the home boys are going to stand around screaming?

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Reply 34 - Posted by: happywarrior, 5/25/2013 10:58:26 AM     (No. 9345037)

All those people and cars, why not run the savages over, or use their tire irons on them? All it might take is one person to rally the bystanders. I would have tried something, anything for this brave soldier.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: snakeoil, 5/25/2013 11:03:19 AM     (No. 9345045)

If it had been Prince Harry walking down the street in his military uniform, the reaction of the British government might have been different. When Britain had an empire they stated that anyone who wanted to could emigrate from their country to Merry Olde England. What´s our excuse?

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Reply 36 - Posted by: NotaBene, 5/25/2013 12:08:12 PM     (No. 9345113)

In the meantime, on this side of the Pond our President is a cross between a Muslim and a Communist who was educated in a Madrassa in Indonesia and finds the evening call to prayers in ancient Arabic one of the nicest sounds on Earth. His middle name is Hussein and the American People in their wisdom voted for him.

Nothing to see here, move along.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: AutumnJoy, 5/25/2013 12:18:58 PM     (No. 9345123)

I have seen the video of this at least 3 or 4 times. Steyn so nails it when he describes the killers as "remarkably urbane savages". That was the exact thought, though not so eloquently expressed, running in my head as I watched. Cognitive dissonance. A few words, spoken with a British accent, by a killer holding a cleaver and knife in his bloody red hands, who then calmly loped off across the road like an ape looking for another banana. How I wish the responding officers had just blown the monster´s head off.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: DoktorFranken, 5/25/2013 12:56:14 PM     (No. 9345159)

While we all sit back and reflect on the MILLIONS of American (and British) troops who DIED to give us all Freedom, we are then forced to be witnesses to this heinous act by some sub-human POSs who are literally a waste of oxygen.

This merely points out that the fight for Freedom is never really over. We currently have an enemy (other than our own president and his administration) that has infiltrated our very communities.

Britain is now finished. They can never recover. WE, on the other hand, need to start playing "Cowboys & Muslims". And that´s a fact.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: MDMuskrat, 5/25/2013 2:27:05 PM     (No. 9345246)

Sir Steyn reports, and eloquently comments on, the details of this barbaric act...and our stomachs churn all over again. Don´t chide them; we are the (native) Brits.

#14: A most excellent post! Is not the picture of Chris Stevens raped and brutalized body being paraded in front of the cameras still fresh in our helpless American minds?

#28: The prolonged murder of Kitty Genovese in 1964 led to a lot of research and confirmation of the phenomenon called "bystander apathy" (which Wikipedia has now PC bastardized into "bystander effect"). What the good people of Woolwich did was beyond apathy; it is closer to abetting, or the special Roman circus thrill of watching lions tear a Christian apart.

#39: Totally on the mark, especially your last para.


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Reply 40 - Posted by: Captain Howdy, 5/25/2013 2:38:12 PM     (No. 9345252)

At one in ten, the good guys still surround them, at least for now. The day is coming for a little "sombra negra" action. Look them up.
The vigilance committee in other words. You know who they are, you know what to do.....

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Reply 41 - Posted by: JoElla Bee, 5/25/2013 2:38:27 PM     (No. 9345253)

´The irreplaceable Mark Steyn´. Yes.

I couldn´t help but think, that´s what gun control laws will get you.

Peter Hitchens wrote this excellent piece, about gun control, ten years ago for The Daily Mail:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/columnists/article-173487/Why-I-demand-right-carry-gun.html



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Reply 42 - Posted by: Grambo, 5/25/2013 2:48:18 PM     (No. 9345263)

And the military leaders responded by ordering the soldiers to not leave the barracks in uniform. So the mighty British Military stands down in the face of Muslim terrorism.

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Reply 43 - Posted by: Rafter, 5/25/2013 3:18:02 PM     (No. 9345288)

Wacky Baracky said, "If they have a knife fight, we´ll bring a gun."

Where is the O-Bomber now... ?
Hiding behind Val´s skirts again... ?

Remember the biggest laugh in the movie "Raiders of the Lost Ark"... ?

Muslim nut in the public square brandishes and whirls a gigantic sword or saber...
very elaborate pre-assault ritual...

Indiana Jones observes... then pulls out a gun and shoots him dead...
American audience laughs uproariously and cheers...
During the Reagan Era...

Now that´s my foreign policy statement...
Shoot to kill.
We know who is the Axis of Evil...
We know the targets...
Send in the drones...

There have to be drones....

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Reply 44 - Posted by: wsdiego, 5/25/2013 3:35:07 PM     (No. 9345301)

Muslim vermin! One day it will come to open season! The question is how many innocent will die at their hands until then?

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Reply 45 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 5/25/2013 4:20:38 PM     (No. 9345328)

#17 and #26, sounds like New York, where the Sullivan Law prohibits any sort of knife, as well as guns.

A police officer, a woman, years ago told a bunch of office workers in a self-defense class, that a woman could carry knitting needles to defend herself without fear of being arrested for it.

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Reply 46 - Posted by: sorosisbehindit, 5/25/2013 5:16:18 PM     (No. 9345387)

Before we get all judgmental, lets remember that these people in England have grown up without our "right to bear arms". So not jumping in the middle of a machete fight with no weapon in hand is self preservation instinct, unless you have about 10 big guys to help you attack the guy with the very sharp object and the bloody hands.

What the U.S. and the U.K can learn from both this and Boston is quite simple. If a person is on a watch list, let us all watch them getting kicked out of the country they hate!!!

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Reply 47 - Posted by: EnsignO, 5/25/2013 5:23:17 PM     (No. 9345392)

#24 is correct - if you don´t have a gun, look for some implement that you can hit with. A two by four would be helpful, or throw bricks if you are around a construction site. To not fight back in some form is to be a zombie

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Reply 48 - Posted by: SmallDog, 5/25/2013 8:42:06 PM     (No. 9345598)

Note: UK law - you can not have on your person any object that can be used as a weapon.
Knifes - 3in or less, no lock blades.
Any thing that your might defend your selves with would get you 4 years in prison and 50,000. fine.
If your are carrying your work tools home from work and get stopped - You will go before a magistrate and he/she will decide if carrying your tools was necessary.
Fight for our 2nd Amendment Rights do not give up your guns.

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Reply 49 - Posted by: SmallDog, 5/25/2013 8:50:54 PM     (No. 9345608)

Sadly there are those on the Left that believe if there where no guns, that outlaws would stop being outlaws. The Left refuses to see that the gun dose not shoot it´s self, that a finger must be on the trigger and then that individual must make a decision.
This murder in London shows what happens to an unarmed and coward-ed society.

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Reply 50 - Posted by: ArtieC, 5/25/2013 9:41:37 PM     (No. 9345638)

If this had happened in America, in any state with concealed carry permits, I´d bet the outcome would have been different. Rigby would have gone home to his family and the Muslim perp would have been a chalk outline on the sidewalk.

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Reply 51 - Posted by: TruthAndJustice, 5/25/2013 10:13:56 PM     (No. 9345651)

Perhaps they are getting flouride put in their water too...only thing I can use to explain Americans tolerating and electing Hussein...

Charles Elliot Perkins, research scientist sent by the US government to take charge of I.G. Farben chemical plants in Germany discovered that ” The real purpose behind water fluoridation is to reduce the resistance of the masses to domination, control and loss of liberty.” In his report to the Lee Foundation for Nutritional Research in October of 1954, he said, “Repeated doses of infinitesimal amounts of fluoride will in time reduce an individual’s power to resist domination, by slowly poisoning and narcotizing a certain area of the brain, thus making him submissive to the will of those who wish to govern him.”

Prozac
This is why Fluorides are a key ingredient of Prozac and many other psychiatric drugs. Prozac, scientific name Fluoxetine, is 94% fluoride.

Toxicologist Phyllis Mullenix demonstrated in the mid-1980´s that rats given fluoride as youngsters or adults became passive, underactive and lethargic.

Who is behind the push to get fluoride in our water systems?
Special interest groups who want a convenient way to dump an industrial waste product.

And who wants to ingest an industrial waste product? Dr. Charles Gordon Heyd, Past President of the American Medical Association said: “I am appalled at the prospect of using water as a vehicle for drugs. Fluoride is a corrosive poison that will produce serious effects on a long- term basis. Any attempt to use water this way is deplorable.”

“I say this in all earnestness and sincerity of a scientist who has spent nearly 20 years research into the chemistry, biochemistry, physiology and pathology of fluorides. Any person who drinks artificially fluoridated water for a period of one year or more will never again be the same person.” Charles Elliot Perkins,

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Reply 52 - Posted by: Gr8Shiphandler, 5/25/2013 10:38:45 PM     (No. 9345665)

Saying that Islam has nothing to do with fundamentalist murdering Muslims is as stupid as saying the Catholic Church had nothing to do with the Spanish Inquisition.

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Big Government: The Congressional Budget Office warns of a terrifying, unprecedented level of national debt in the coming decade. That fits nicely with Democrats´ objectives, but not with our nation´s founding principles. Andrew Jackson, who in 1835 succeeded in paying off the national debt, was famous for considering debt slavery. The current fiscal path the U.S. is on does indeed lead to slavery, but the slave masters of the future will be well-heeled politicians and federal bureaucrats, not plantation owners. The CBO´s new budget projections contain an eerie warning that we are on path from today´s already unfathomable $17.7 trillion in gross

The CBO Gets It Very
Wrong on ObamaCare
Investor´s Business Daily, by Editorial    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/15/2014 7:25:15 PM     Post Reply
Failure: ObamaCare fans are cheering the latest Congressional Budget Office report, which appears to show that it will cost less and cover more people than expected. But that´s true only if you ignore reality. We don´t always agree with the CBO, but we have long respected it as a credible source of budget numbers. Sure, its projections almost never turn out to be true. But simply too many variables are at play for anyone to guess such things perfectly, and it provides a more or less independent source of information on highly charged, partisan issues. Plus, its findings have a tendency to upset

Obama´s Economy-Killing
Tax-Hike Frenzy Knows No End
Investor´s Business Daily, by Editorial    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/15/2014 7:19:45 PM     Post Reply
Taxes: In his first campaign, President Obama pledged to cut taxes for all but the very rich. Now that another tax day has come and gone, it should be very clear that his pledge was just another in a long line of falsehoods. ´I can make a firm pledge," then-candidate Barack Obama said while campaigning back in 2008. "Under my plan no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes." Now, almost six years after those comments, it´s

Harry Reid: The Desert
Fox Of Corruption
Investor´s Business Daily, by Editorial    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/15/2014 7:13:16 PM     Post Reply
Corruption: The standoff in the Nevada desert wasn´t about a desert tortoise or a rancher´s failure to pay grazing fees. It was about the state´s senior senator again enriching himself and his family at public expense. Sunlight is said to be the best disinfectant, and the end, at least temporarily, to the Bureau of Land Management´s armed standoff with Cliven Bundy may be due in part to the exposure given to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid´s role in the attempt to confiscate Bundy´s cattle and shut down his ranch. "A tortoise isn´t the reason why BLM is harassing a 67-year-old rancher; they

Immigration activists urge
Obama to act boldly
Associated Press, by Erica Werner    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/15/2014 5:55:13 PM     Post Reply
WASHINGTON -- Latinos and immigration activists are warning of political peril for President Barack Obama and Democrats in the fall election unless the president acts boldly and soon to curb deportations and allow more immigrants to remain legally in the U.S. Many activists say Obama has been slow to grasp the emotions building within the Latino community as deportations near the 2 million mark for his administration and hopes for immigration legislation fade. With House Republicans unlikely to act on an overhaul, executive action by Obama is increasingly the activists´ only hope. "There is tremendous anger among core constituencies of the president

India´s Supreme Court creates official
third sex for eunuchs and transgenders
Telegraph (U.K.), by Dean Nelson    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/15/2014 5:08:23 PM     Post Reply
India´s Supreme Court has created an official third sex for its transgender eunuchs and announced they will have a quota of government jobs and college places to help them overcome discrimination. The decision was met with jubilation by transgender charities who said it was a milestone in their fight against marginalisation in Indian society. "We are elated and thankful to the court," said Kalki Subramanium, a leading transgender rights activist. "The decision has come after a century of suppression and marginalisation by the legal and social systems. "This verdict is certainly landmark and a new beginning. The biggest challenge is the social recognition.

Rory Reid: Rancher Cliven
Bundy "Should Be Prosecuted"
Real Clear Politics, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/15/2014 5:06:58 PM     Post Reply
RORY REID, SON OF SEN. HARRY REID: We believe in a country in which we are subject to laws and you can’t just ignore the laws we don’t like. I think clearly if state and local prosecutors look at this more closely, they’re going to find that he broke the law and he should be prosecuted. ### REID: He is not a victim and he’s not a hero. He’s been using that he doesn’t own for over 20 years and he didn’t pay. He broke the law. There are hundreds of ranchers throughout Nevada that conduct their profession honorably. There’s thousands of

Democrats Seek Slick
Message For Single Mothers
Rushlimbaugh.com, by Rush Limbaugh    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/15/2014 4:59:47 PM     Post Reply
RUSH: Kate, Carson City, Nevada. Welcome to the EIB Network. Hi. CALLER: Well, hello, Rush, dear. How are you doing? RUSH: I´m just dandy. Thank you. CALLER: I´m so glad. You´re so awesome, what you do with that Leukemia Lymphoma drive. You´re such an awesome guy. I just want to say real quickly that that chick that was on Neil Cavuto? She´s never fed baseball players. I´ve been doing that for 30 years. They eat more junk and they are so skinny and it drives me nuts. So, anyway, that´s all. RUSH: It´s clear she doesn´t know what she´s talking about. CALLER: She doesn´t know

Rush Limbaugh floats
‘staged’ shoe theory
Politico, by Tal Kopan    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/15/2014 4:58:33 PM     Post Reply
Rush Limbaugh suspects that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s near-miss of a thrown shoe at an event last week could have been staged, he said on his show Monday. While Limbaugh said on his radio show Monday that he hadn’t seen it and was thus “ill-equipped” to discuss the incident, which occurred during a speech in Las Vegas last week, he still suspected the whole thing wasn’t as it seemed. “I’ve got people telling me her reaction wasn’t natural,” Limbaugh said. “I haven’t cared enough to go try to find it. I really haven’t. Somebody threw a shoe at Hillary. Big

Caller Suggests Hillary Shoe Incident was
Staged, and Media Claims Rush is Pushing
a Conspiracy Theory
Rushlimbaugh.com, by Rush Limbaugh    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/15/2014 4:56:25 PM     Post Reply
saying I did it. You got USA Today saying I did it, and I didn´t do it. It wasn´t me! And it´s fascinating. It is literally fascinating that they want to take this episode and try to lay this off on me. I´ll tell you what I´m talking about in a minute. This is the hook. It makes me think that we might have hit on something here. The caller did it. The caller did it but they´re laying it off on me! BREAK TRANSCRIPT RUSH: Now, we had a call yesterday from a woman who I could barely understand. She was



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Ben Carson: White House wanted
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Daily Caller, by Alex Pappas    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/15/2014 5:22:51 AM     Post Reply
Neurosurgeon Ben Carson says the White House wanted him to apologize for “offending” President Obama after he famously delivered a conservative message at the National Prayer Breakfast last year. Carson, the former director of pediatric neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins Hospital, recalls the events surrounding his 2013 speech in his new book, One Nation: What We Can All Do To Save America’s Future. The Daily Caller obtained an advance copy of the book, which is set for release May 20. “He did not appear to be hostile or angry,” Carson writes of Obama, “but within a matter of minutes after the conclusion of

Why You Should Be Sympathetic
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Powerline, by John Hinderaker    Original Article
Posted By: Toledo- 4/15/2014 8:40:58 AM     Post Reply
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Obama Generation Losing
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Wall Street Journal, by James Freeman    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/14/2014 4:23:09 PM     Post Reply
President Obama inspired a generation of young people to support his historic election in 2008. And in 2012, despite the struggles of his first term, Mr. Obama still managed to win the support of a full 60% of voters age 18-29. But the man who once dreamed of being a transformative leader in the Reagan mold is inspiring few of those young people to follow his lead. "For all the talk about the movement that elected Mr. Obama, the more notable movement of Obama supporters has been away from politics. It appears that few of the young people who voted

Brit Hume: Obama, Holder
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Mediaite, by Evan McMurry    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/13/2014 9:14:46 PM     Post Reply
On Fox News Sunday, political analyst Brit Hume said that Eric Holder’s claim that his treatment at the hands of Representative Louie Gohmert (R-TX) at a House hearing this week was unprecedented toward an Attorney General, made him a “crybaby,” and that he and President Barack Obama had in fact benefited “enormously” from being the first African Americans in their respective positions. “This strikes me as kinda crybaby stuff from Holder,” Hume said. “My sense about this is both Eric Holder and Barack Obama have benefited politically enormously from the fact that they are African American and the first to

Chelsea Clinton no longer
ruling out politics

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The Hill (Washington DC), by Judy Katz    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/14/2014 11:57:36 AM     Post Reply
Chelsea Clinton says when people ask her these days whether she wants to go into politics, her answer isn’t an automatic “no.” The 34-year-old former first daughter told Fast Company in an interview published Monday, “for so long the answer was just a visceral no. Not because I had made any conscientious, deliberate decision, but since people had been asking for as long as literally I could remember, it was no." Now, the only child of former President Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton explains, "I live in a city and a state and a country where I

Glaring limits of the Civil Rights
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Salon Magazine, by Matt Bruenig    Original Article
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Although the Civil Rights Act, the landmark legislation which just reached its 50th anniversary, made great strides in desegregating the economy, economic discrimination is still widespread, and anti-discrimination legislation alone can never rectify the economic damage inflicted upon blacks by slavery and our Jim Crow apartheid regime. The Civil Rights Act was a mild reform, all things considered, but one conservatives fought with vigor and one many conservatives are still bitter about to this day. When the Civil Rights Act passed in 1964, the primary purpose was to root out discrimination in public accommodations (like hotels and movie theaters)

If a nuclear bomb exploded in downtown
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The Week, by Marc Ambinder    Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly- 4/15/2014 4:51:46 AM     Post Reply
Funny question in the headline, yes? But since President Obama worries more about the threat of terrorists´ improvised nuclear device going off in a major American city than anything Russia can throw at us, I was wondering if the government had deigned to share with us citizens any tips for, you know, surviving something their own intelligence points to as the likeliest unlikely Black Swan event. Well, no. And yes. No — very few people in Washington, D.C., who work for the government have any idea what they would do if a 10-kiloton nuclear device exploded at the intersection of 16th and K

Atlanta Braves flooded with Hank
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Washington Times (D.C.), by Cheryl K. Chumley    Original Article
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Hank Aaron’s recent comments about the need for America to realize that racism is still very much alive and thriving — only now due to those who wear “neckties and starched shirts” rather than KKK hoods — has sparked an angry backlash and many fans are turning the tables, calling the baseball legend himself a racist. “Hank Aaron is a s*****g piece of [expletive] [racial slur],” one man said in an email to the Atlanta Braves’ front office, one of the teams Mr. Aaron used to play for, CBS News reported. “My old man instilled in my mind from a

Megyn Kelly and the
Sandberg Head Shaker

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American Thinker, by Richard F. Miniter    Original Article
Posted By: magnante- 4/15/2014 9:16:05 AM     Post Reply
Megyn Kelly’s "Kelly File" is a great news show. She’s incisive, informed and customarily handles the toughest guest with aplomb. But her lengthy interview of Facebook C.O.O. Sheryl Sandberg about her second book in the Lean In series Lean In: For Graduates was a head shaker. Amazing that she of all people allowed Sandberg to restring the same old, same old, shamed, and shopworn feminist myths about women and girls and then jangle it in front of her viewing audience like something new out of the box. Indeed Kelly all but genuflected in front of this woman. Kept her on thru

Obama taps gay bishop to wrap Easter
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Washington Times, by Cheryl K. Chumley    Original Article
Posted By: jackson- 4/15/2014 9:25:28 AM     Post Reply
When President Obama needed a preacher to fulfill the closing prayer duties at the annual White House Easter Prayer Breakfast, he turned to none other than the Episcopal Church’s first openly gay bishop — who said he was as shocked as anyone at the appointment. The Right Rev. Gene Robinson said in a tweet, accompanied by a photo of Mr. Obama behind a podium at the event: “POTUS ‘preaches’ at the Easter prayer breakfast. Then, out of the blue, asks ME to close with prayer. OMG!” Newsmax said he also emphasized that the words he chose to close the breakfast

Obama Selects First Openly Gay
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Mediaite, by Andrew Kirell    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/14/2014 12:46:05 PM     Post Reply
President Obama pulled a surprise move Monday at the White House’s Easter Prayer Breakfast when he selected Gene Robinson to lead the closing prayer. Robinson is famously known as the first openly gay Episcopal bishop. Talking Points Memo’s Tom Kludt spotted the following tweet from Robinson, who was in attendance: (Tweet) Robinson, 66, became diocesan bishop of New Hampshire in March 2004. He retired in January 2013 and is currently a senior fellow at the progressive

Developing: Russian fighter jet buzzes
U.S. Navy destroyer in Black Sea

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Associated Press, by Lolita C. Baldor    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/14/2014 12:49:12 PM     Post Reply
A Russian fighter jet made multiple, close-range passes near an American warship in the Black Sea for more than 90 minutes Saturday amid escalating tensions in the region, a U.S. military official said Monday. In the first public account of the incident, the official said the Russian Fencer flew within 1,000 yards of the USS Donald Cook, a Navy destroyer, at about 500 feet above sea level. Ship commanders considered the actions provocative and inconsistent with international agreements, prompting the ship to issue several radio queries and warnings. The fighter appeared to be unarmed and never was in danger of


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