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Police remove infant boy
from home after parents seek
second medical opinion

FOX News, by Staff

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Posted By:US veteran, 4/30/2013 11:44:45 AM

For many patients, getting a second medical opinion is a common and often recommended endeavor; it helps people to get the most accurate diagnosis possible. But for one couple, the decision to get a second opinion for their baby boy’s illness ultimately resulted in police forcibly removing the infant from their California home, RT.com reported. Anna and Alex Nikolayev, a young Russian couple living in Sacramento, took their 5-month-old son Sammy to Sutter Memorial Hospital in Sacramento when he started to exhibit flu-like symptoms. The Nikolayevs had been taking Sammy to Sutter Memorial since his birth, when had been diagnosed with a

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Attercliffe, 4/30/2013 11:51:51 AM     (No. 9303521)

Obamacare: It´s Not A Good Thing.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: jeffkinnh, 4/30/2013 11:54:08 AM     (No. 9303526)

Once CPS gets involved it often charges forward like a blind bull. They don´t evaluate or check things out, they just act, sometimes foolishly. The arrogance of the first hospital is astounding. The parents are acting in the best interest of their child and the hospital sounds incompetent.

The power of the state over our children is growing and it is scary.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Skywise, 4/30/2013 12:02:39 PM     (No. 9303548)

What do the doctors at Kaiser have to say? Did the child have a life threatening condition but they played along with her to avoid escalating the situation?
Is Sutter a state run hospital looking for $$$ with the government going along?
Why did she have a camera setup in her living room? (IE she knew they were coming?)



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Reply 4 - Posted by: richwill, 4/30/2013 12:11:26 PM     (No. 9303569)

Welcome to Amerikka.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: AGGW, 4/30/2013 12:15:10 PM     (No. 9303579)

Regarding the camera set up. Click on the link at the bottom of the original article. It takes you to a more detailed article. According to the more complete article, she set up the camera after police attacked her husband when he went outside to see why there were squad cars in his driveway.



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Reply 6 - Posted by: skedaddle, 4/30/2013 12:18:29 PM     (No. 9303585)

I´m sorry to say it but if you become involved with CPS and you truly don´t want them to take your child, you are going to have to move for awhile until things get worked out. You need to cross a county line or whatever it takes to get out of that CPS´s jurisdiction. It slows them down because they have to talk to another CPS and get their cooperation in snatching your child. At least that´s what worked when my spouse´s vindictive ex called in a fake child abuse report. CPS lost interest when they couldn´t snatch a kid themselves and they closed the case rather than refer it to another county.

That poor Russian couple probably would have had more freedom if they´d stayed in Russia.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: OhMy, 4/30/2013 12:18:36 PM     (No. 9303586)

Obviously the parents care more for the child than some of these medical people and they should be allowed to get the second opinion. How do flu like symptoms lead to a heart bypass operation? These people must have a "cadillac" insurance policy but the more costly procedure is not necessarily the right one.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: corndoggies, 4/30/2013 12:23:10 PM     (No. 9303594)

I´m facing a dilemma right now. My youngest stepdaughter has a severe tooth infection. I took her to the dentist who referred us to a oral surgeon as two permanent teeth must come out. Her "mother" made the appt and told her father (my husband) that the dentist put her on antibiotics before he would remove the teeth. Turns out she cancelled that appt and never saw the dentist. Not thrilled about calling Child Services, but how do we make sure the little girl sees a dentist?

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Salt5792, 4/30/2013 12:28:07 PM     (No. 9303608)

One more reason not to live in California.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Darling, 4/30/2013 12:35:45 PM     (No. 9303628)

#8, you contact the court where the divorce and custody arrangements were finalized and run it by them. Your lawyer may decide to request a hearing. I am presuming Mom is collecting child support to fund things like the dental care, and she will probably do the right thing if she is threatened with the loss of custody or an accounting of how the child support benefits have been spent. There is no need for CPS to be called first in any custodial situation. I´m not a lawyer but have seen my divorced friends in and out of court enough to see how the game is played.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: LadyVet, 4/30/2013 12:42:56 PM     (No. 9303642)

#8 check the divorce decree. Usually there is language that if care is necessary, the parent who has the child can take the child to the medical provider and that the other spouse must pay a share when presented with bill.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: HisHandmaiden, 4/30/2013 12:49:32 PM     (No. 9303654)

#8, can understand the antibiotic, but wanting/needing to take out two permanent teeth from a child seem extreme ... Maybe a second opinion is needed here too... and sometimes a third. We still need to have/build trust and confidence in our medical care providers... and common sense... At least for a little while longer... (The top infertility doctor and department head at a renown DC hospital told me I had secondary infertility and would never have another child... I believed him. Daughter #1 kept praying for a sister... The next Thanksgiving we found out I was pregnant... Daughter #2 is now 28! [How convicted I was from my lack of faith.])

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Packard Man, 4/30/2013 12:55:35 PM     (No. 9303666)

Some crazy stuff. Be sure you have a good GP who you trust. Would like to hear some more details about is story.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: earlybird, 4/30/2013 1:10:45 PM     (No. 9303690)

This story is updated here:

Custody Controversy: Judge orders ´Baby Sammy´ Nikolayev to hospital for evaluation

http://www.wtsp.com/news/national/article/314117/81/Baby-at-center-of-custody-dispute-moved-to-hospital

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Reply 15 - Posted by: earlybird, 4/30/2013 1:14:17 PM     (No. 9303701)

The baby has been taken to Stanford University Hospital for a second opinion - excellent cardiac surgeons there. The parents can now be with him. They consider it a victory.



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Reply 16 - Posted by: agility, 4/30/2013 1:51:17 PM     (No. 9303754)

"The court also ruled Monday the parents must following all medical advice from now on, including not taking their child from Stanford without proper discharge."

This is asinine.



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Reply 17 - Posted by: dadofboys, 4/30/2013 2:23:10 PM     (No. 9303808)

Just an aside, the mom is gorgeous!

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Reply 18 - Posted by: corndoggies, 4/30/2013 4:11:32 PM     (No. 9303965)

#10, that´s what we were thinking too. Great advice.

#11, we´re happy to pay whatever, it´s not a money issue, getting the "mom" off her behind to take her is. Either one of us would happily take her but we´ve not been asked despite multiple offers to help. I think it´s because she has to pay the first $1000 and then we pay a percentage of the remainder.

#12, yes the antibiotic makes sense, but the child NEVER saw the oral surgeon. The dentist said she could try crowns but only gave the teeth a 20% chance of being able to take a crown.

Thanks to all who advised, this situation is making me crazy.


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Reply 19 - Posted by: msliberty1937, 4/30/2013 4:23:23 PM     (No. 9303985)

I didn´t read other links to this story, but, like Packard Man, I think more details are needed. Call me skeptical, but how many of us would have ready access to a camera, know how to activate it, then set it to surreptitiously record in the few minutes the husband is in the driveway?



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