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The Insanity of
blaming Islam

The Week, by Mark Ambinder

Original Article

Posted By:Fiesta del sol, 4/19/2013 5:30:45 PM

We are still speculating about virtually everything right now, but I feel as though I need to explain why I find the quick and easy conversation about Muslims being radicalized in America to be so illogical and laced with bigotry. Of course, there is a global violent jihadist movement, loosely organized, that wants to recruit young men to influence policies at home and abroad and perhaps usher in the global caliphate. That ideology motivates some Muslims to kill innocent people.But you´re allowed to be a radical Muslim in America.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: John c, 4/19/2013 5:34:16 PM     (No. 9285569)

I expect the new CIA chief John Donovan to defend islam also.


Reply 2 - Posted by: SpeedMaster, 4/19/2013 5:36:11 PM     (No. 9285573)

Well we can not blame the Buddhists.


   

 

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Stlouislaxbros dad, 4/19/2013 5:36:47 PM     (No. 9285575)


Funny... I don´t recall Mark writing anything earlier this week about how
"insane" it is of the mainstream media to wish and hope for the bad guys to be white.. and from the south...and Christians.. and 2nd amendment people.

Mark... nice job trying to cover for the Islamic terrorists.

Anyone wanna bet that Obama won´t say the word Muslim or Islamic?

Clearly not all Muslims are violent...but in this case.. if it walks like a duck..etc.


Reply 4 - Posted by: Marzon, 4/19/2013 5:37:06 PM     (No. 9285576)

This is one of the stupidest, most vapid articles I have ever read. Skip this one folks...


Reply 5 - Posted by: Jntsrgn, 4/19/2013 5:39:14 PM     (No. 9285578)

This was not a gun crime. America´s gun culture has as its foundation the fight for liberty, freeing the oppressed and hunting for sport.
This was an IED crime. Islam has an IED culture rooted in oppression, bigotry, hate and evil.
This moron needs to get his head straight before some muslim lops it off.


Reply 6 - Posted by: JustRight, 4/19/2013 5:40:18 PM     (No. 9285582)

This writer is an idiot to write they are "loosely organized". These Islamic haters are trained like a regular army with leaders and troops. Their goal: destroy all infidels, as they call anyone not of their belief, and destroy countries they see as free.


Reply 7 - Posted by: skillsss, 4/19/2013 5:42:03 PM     (No. 9285585)

The Insanity of Listening to a JournOlist. Their words are as meaningless to them as they are to us.

talk about another useful idiot


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: bamapreacher, 4/19/2013 5:43:50 PM     (No. 9285589)

I couldn;t figure out why he dragged Andrew Cunanan into the article until I read that the author, Mark, is married to Michael. Now it makes sense.


Reply 9 - Posted by: southron, 4/19/2013 5:45:50 PM     (No. 9285596)

Even before the identity of the bombers was known the Leftist media was theorizing that white suprematists, neo-nazis, etc were probably the perpetrators.

I´m old enough to remember media´s initial reaction to JFK´s murder - once again "Right Wing" nuts were blamed - until Commie sympathizer Oswald was identified.


Reply 10 - Posted by: Avanti1, 4/19/2013 5:49:06 PM     (No. 9285604)

FTA:
"But you´re allowed to be a radical Muslim in America. You´re allowed to believe that the Qu´ran proscribes the most elegant set of laws. You´re allowed to believe that one man´s terrorist is another man´s freedom fighter. And you can say, in America, pretty much anything you want. Not everything, and after 9/11, a little less, but you can still make very unpopular arguments."

You seem to want to deflect from the fact that, in America you are NOT allowed to set off bombs that kill and maim innocent people. In America you are NOT allowed to hijack commercial planes and fly them into buildings thereby killing and maiming innocent people.

I could go on, but you likely get the point.

FTA: "It is far more plausible that American gun culture..."

Might I remind the author that, in America, citizens have a Constitutional RIGHT to bear arms. Citizens also have a responsibility to act responsibly, even journalists.


Reply 11 - Posted by: JoElla Bee, 4/19/2013 5:52:48 PM     (No. 9285613)

There´s not enough truth in this piece to have a sane discussion about it. Talk about insanity!


Reply 12 - Posted by: LamontCranston, 4/19/2013 5:55:02 PM     (No. 9285618)

#4 Hit it right on the head. This article is the biggest piece of self serving hogwash I have read in a while.


   

 

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Reply 13 - Posted by: slipstik, 4/19/2013 5:58:04 PM     (No. 9285624)

I am a human before I am any of the other things that I am, my gender, my religion or lack thereof, my sexual orientation, etc.. My humanity trumps all other attributes and inhibits me from wantonly slaughtering my fellow humans in the grisliest possible way. Islam is not a religion such as Lutheranism, Methodism, or any other "...ism" with which we are familiar. It is a definition, and it would seem that Islamists define themselves as Islam way before they include their humanity in their self image. This gives them permission from their Allah to righteously and gruesomely murder any humans they wish to, because they aren´t humans first and foremost, they are Islam. I learned this under the planes on 9/11 as the buildings fell. I am more than willing therefore to agree with them, they aren´t human...


Reply 14 - Posted by: dman, 4/19/2013 6:01:58 PM     (No. 9285633)

Any institution, religious or otherwise, that advocates laws that would supersede or replace the Constitution is by definition treasonous, and should be de-certified and stripped of any Constitutional protections. If Islam wants equal protection, then it should stop preaching Sharia and excommunicate/purge radicals within its ranks.


Reply 15 - Posted by: mean Gene, 4/19/2013 6:03:01 PM     (No. 9285636)

Is Jihad Fard Ayn or Fard Kifaya?
Both.
It is an obligation on all Muslims to pay for the jihadist.
Fard Ayn
But only one in 100 has to BE the jihadist.
Fard Kifaya

That´s why so many Muslims can sit back and pretend to be so innocent.


Reply 16 - Posted by: VinGoombatz, 4/19/2013 6:03:31 PM     (No. 9285639)

yeah, a garbage piece by a dumb guy

he doesn´t know what the word "proscribe" means


Reply 17 - Posted by: lizzee1, 4/19/2013 6:04:14 PM     (No. 9285643)

I suspect he would write a different article if muslims blew up the Castro Street Fair.


   

 

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Reply 18 - Posted by: mythman, 4/19/2013 6:04:15 PM     (No. 9285644)

Oh, so now I´m insane, am I?

How about the Insanity of Blaming Guns in discussing registration/confiscation?.


Reply 19 - Posted by: neanderthal, 4/19/2013 6:07:08 PM     (No. 9285653)

Well, Mark, you just go ahead thinking whatever you want, but the facts are that the Moslems have been raising hell ever since the day they came out of Mecca 1400 years ago and they have done everything they can during that time to rid the earth of everybody else, particularly Europeans and Christians. now, you might not like those facts but they are in the past and they can´t be changed, no matter what you think.


Reply 20 - Posted by: Mai Bad, 4/19/2013 6:07:38 PM     (No. 9285654)

Yo..yo..Is Mark be smokin crack?


Reply 21 - Posted by: Kitty Myers, 4/19/2013 6:07:48 PM     (No. 9285656)

Is Mark a Muslim?


Reply 22 - Posted by: killerbee, 4/19/2013 6:10:03 PM     (No. 9285661)

The comments following the article are pretty much %100 against Ambinder. He really showed himself to be a dunce with this one.


   

 



 
Reply 23 - Posted by: msjena, 4/19/2013 6:10:13 PM     (No. 9285662)

Allowed to be a radical Muslim but not a believing Christian?


Reply 24 - Posted by: RightShoe, 4/19/2013 6:11:31 PM     (No. 9285666)

That´s what Peter King, the Republican chair of the Homeland Security committee, asked. So he goes right to the religion; somehow, he slides very quickly past the possibility that something about America is radicalizing people of all sorts.

He commits the sin of essentialism.


Mr. King simply succumbed to the reality that these terrorists believed in an Islamic prophecy that spoke of world Islamic domination. It´s Mr. Ambinder who is being the bigot here. And a blind one at that.

This is what happens when fool tries to be righteous.


Reply 25 - Posted by: jimK1, 4/19/2013 6:11:46 PM     (No. 9285667)

If this clown was beheaded, I think I´d be able to come to grips with that. Jihad is bad, Progressives are bad, if they kill each other, good. In that case two wrong do make a right.


Reply 26 - Posted by: KarenJ1, 4/19/2013 6:16:53 PM     (No. 9285677)

Dittos #4. I could only make it half way through that utter tripe. That dude is on some serious drugs and has been dutifully brainwashed by his leftist brethren.


Reply 27 - Posted by: franq, 4/19/2013 6:17:25 PM     (No. 9285681)

No possible defense for Islam. The Religion of Peace according to GWB.


Reply 28 - Posted by: KarenJ1, 4/19/2013 6:18:37 PM     (No. 9285684)

Sorry for second post. I wanted to add that sadly this guy gives you a look into the mind of those like 0bama and the rest of the leftists now running our government. It is absolutely horrifying and detrimental to our safety and security.


Reply 29 - Posted by: reilly, 4/19/2013 6:20:31 PM     (No. 9285687)


Deport all the Muslims that came into this country under the Ted Kennedy 1965 law. Period.


Reply 30 - Posted by: Italiano, 4/19/2013 6:20:44 PM     (No. 9285688)

These people have a death wish. Works for me, except for the innocents that always get taken out with them.


Reply 31 - Posted by: wyspen, 4/19/2013 6:24:21 PM     (No. 9285693)

Maybe the most ignorant article I´ve ever read. We know for a fact the Amish didn´t do it, and they have guns.


Reply 32 - Posted by: lostinmassachusetts, 4/19/2013 6:44:31 PM     (No. 9285732)

No. The only insanity is to continue to defend Islam in the face of these atrocities.


Reply 33 - Posted by: hershey, 4/19/2013 6:50:26 PM     (No. 9285744)

This moron will never get his ´head straight´ because it´s stuck up his rear end.

There can be no peaceful Muslims if they follow the Koran...it is impossible...

If you are dealing with ´infidels´ you can lie, cheat, steal, murder, commit any number of hateful crimes and still claim your 72 virgins.

Peaceful my patootie.


Reply 34 - Posted by: GW_Rider, 4/19/2013 6:55:57 PM     (No. 9285752)

The insanity of reading Mark Minderbinder.


Reply 35 - Posted by: hoopsfan, 4/19/2013 6:59:52 PM     (No. 9285758)

Yikes, check the author´s bio blurb next to the article.

Educated at Harvard, and held a number of big-name media positions.

Yet, he´s a total fool, unable to deal with facts and reality. Disturbing that the so-called intelligentsia can be so stupid, and not a good sign for our culture.



Reply 36 - Posted by: Penney, 4/19/2013 7:16:21 PM     (No. 9285792)

Words mean things and the continuing words used by Islamic leaders do not reflect love or even tolerance for humanity, but rather hatred. The resulting evil actions, which those leaders´ bogus rants but encourage, match such broad-brushed, relentlessly evil words, ...apparently most notable among impressionable youths who choose to yield to evil deeds.

It was reported today that the current Boston fugitive became an American citizen on 9-11-12, but had no close American friends and said he didn´t understand the way they think. Apparently he was thoroughly propagandized about the USA & Americans by...?!


Reply 37 - Posted by: davew, 4/19/2013 7:47:22 PM     (No. 9285856)

Young adolescent minds, particularly males, are easy targets for manipulative cult beliefs. Radical Islam is just one of the most effective exploiters of this inherent weakness but the Internet and mass media are full of equally wacky systems of belief. What conspiracy theories were running through Holmes´ mind when he shot up the Denver theater or Lanza´s mind when he killed the kids in Newtown? There has always been a fine line between religious piety and cult insanity. Fortunately most kids make it through adolescence and don´t cross the line but its getting thinner every day.


Reply 38 - Posted by: NorthernDog, 4/19/2013 7:51:32 PM     (No. 9285865)

What he and other liberals can´t get through their heads is that many Muslims can´t cope with living in a free and open society. When things don´t go 100% their way, they lash out at everyone else. Sometimes just verbally, and other times with extreme violence.
We can´t live in a society where we have to tip-toe around everyone who just may get violent over the smallest slight.


Reply 39 - Posted by: SteelTurman, 4/19/2013 7:51:37 PM     (No. 9285866)

Yeah?

That may resonate in the echo chamber ...

... but Mr. & Mrs. America get it.

Islam is the enemy.


Reply 40 - Posted by: peasantnumberthree, 4/19/2013 7:53:54 PM     (No. 9285871)

Adding to what #37 said, adolescent males also made more excitable by the lack of females.

I don´t mean this in a sexist way, but if there were no women around, there would be no civilization - we males would still be living in caves.

If rich Muslims can have 4 wives, that sure dries up the supply of females for those adolescent male hotheads.


Reply 41 - Posted by: oh-heck, 4/19/2013 8:00:25 PM     (No. 9285882)

FTA: I love American culture, and I also think that something about living in a modern society loosens the moorings that prevent us from acting on our deepest, ugliest thoughts.

Thing is, Islam teaches that acting on your deepest, ugliest thoughts is OK if you are wasting infidels.


Reply 42 - Posted by: bighambone, 4/19/2013 8:14:30 PM     (No. 9285913)

It´s safer to blame America, as Americans won´t suddenly show up and chop your head off!


Reply 43 - Posted by: Teleologicus, 4/19/2013 8:30:59 PM     (No. 9285957)

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/


Reply 44 - Posted by: beancounter, 4/19/2013 9:15:30 PM     (No. 9286032)

Can a liberal pundit get through a column without contradicting himself?

Beginning of the column:"Of course,there is a global violent jihadist movement".

Then he goes on about how this is just like when Koreans, gays, or whites kill. But Marc, there isn´t a global violent Korean movement or a global violent gay movement or a global violent white Christian movement.


Reply 45 - Posted by: woofwoofwoof, 4/19/2013 9:19:26 PM     (No. 9286044)

It is not at all clear that you are allowed to be a radical Muslim in America, since that seems to include advocating murder, treason, and other crimes.


Reply 46 - Posted by: sorosisbehindit, 4/19/2013 9:46:37 PM     (No. 9286104)

"“My son, Tamerlan, got involved in religious politics five years ago,” his mother, Zubeidat K. Tsarnaeva, told Russia Today television..."


Reply 47 - Posted by: Dragonslayer2, 4/20/2013 1:32:22 PM     (No. 9287175)

The author is right. Let´s blame Methodists, ´er somebody.



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National Review Online, by Eliana Johnson    Original Article
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Embattled Internal Revenue Service official Lois Lerner and an attorney in the Federal Election Commission’s general counsel’s office appear to have twice colluded to influence the record before the FEC’s vote in the case of a conservative non-profit organization, according to e-mails unearthed by the House Ways and Means Committee and obtained exclusively by National Review Online. The correspondence suggests the discrimination of conservative groups extended beyond the IRS and into the FEC, where an attorney from the agency’s enforcement division in at least one case sought and received tax information about the status of a conservative group,

McCain strolls into Dem caucus meeting
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The Hill (Washington DC), by Judy Kurtz    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 7/31/2013 1:28:56 PM     Post Reply
Sen. John McCain — a Democrat? There was confusion Wednesday after the Arizona Republican mistakenly strolled into President Obama’s meeting with Senate Democrats at the Capitol. The room full of Democrats — who happened to be meeting in the same room where the Senate GOP usually holds their weekly policy luncheons — erupted in applause and laughter as the former Republican presidential candidate made his entrance. As McCain, 76, walked out of the Dem-filled space, reporters pressed him as to why he stepped foot in the room.

Colin Powell admits to sending ´very
personal´ emails to a Romanian diplomat
but DENIES having an affair as
a hacker threatens to leak their intimate
messages

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Daily Mail Online (UK), by Hayley Peterson    Original Article
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Colin Powell has admitted to exchanging ´very personal´ emails with a Romanian diplomat but denies having an affair with the much younger woman after a hacker threatened to release their intimate messages. The 76-year-old retired general told the Smoking Gun that he met Corina Cretu, 45, roughly 10 years ago when she was working as an assistant to the president of Romania. She is now a member of the European Parliament. ´After I left the Department of State in January 2005 we stayed in touch via email,´ he told TSG.

Oprah Decries Americans´ Ignorance
on Civil Rights, Laments ´Millions´
of Blacks Lynched

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Breitbart´s Big Hollywood, by Ben Shapiro    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 8/1/2013 10:49:27 AM     Post Reply
In preparation for the release of Oscar-bait film The Butler, Forest Whitaker, Oprah Winfrey, and director Lee Daniels (Precious) sat down with Parade magazine. The film chronicles a butler (Whitaker) who works in the White House through seven administrations. Winfrey plays the butler’s wife. In the interview, Winfrey explained her sadness that so few Americans know about the history of the civil rights movement: “They don’t know diddly-squat. Diddly-squat.” She then said of the historic use of the n-word, “I always think of the millions of people who heard that as their last

Obama´s Creeping Authoritarianism
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Wall Street Journal, by Daniel Henninger    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 7/31/2013 9:41:29 PM     Post Reply
If we learned anything about Barack Obama in his first term it is that when he starts repeating the same idea over and over, what´s on his mind is something else. The first term´s over-and-over subject was "the wealthiest 1%." Past some point, people wondered why he kept beating these half-dead horses. After the election, we knew. It was to propagandize the targeted voting base that would provide his 4% popular-vote margin of victory—very young voters and minorities. They believed. He won. The second-term over-and-over, elevated in his summer speech tour, is the shafting of the middle class. But


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