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Texas Soldier Arrested for
‘Rudely Displaying’ Weapon

National Review Online, by Charles C. W. Cooke

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Posted By:Southernstorm, 4/17/2013 6:54:09 PM

I just got off the phone with Army Master Sergeant C. J. Grisham, a serving American soldier and veteran of the the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, who recently was illegally disarmed by the Temple Police Department while out for a walk with his son. “We live out in the country in Texas, near Temple,” he told me. “My son and I were on a ten-mile hike so that he could earn his hiking merit badge – it’s the last badge he needs to become an Eagle Scout.” But half way into the hike, Grisham said, “a police officer pulled up.” Initially, he was “cordial” and he “asked what we were doing.” Grisham told him.

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As a retired member of law enforcement, I´m embarrassed for this agency.

Please post properly, to word limit & splitting headline. LCom Staff.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: JonR, 4/17/2013 6:55:32 PM     (No. 9281171)

This is an unconscionable assault on personal liberty and freedom! This cannot go unanswered and the officer involved must be punished to the full extent of the law.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: youngtexan, 4/17/2013 6:58:14 PM     (No. 9281174)

I emailed TX AG Greg Abbott about this incident and still no word from him.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Southernstorm, 4/17/2013 6:58:23 PM     (No. 9281175)

According to the Temple Daily News, the soldier is a U.S. Army counterintelligence agent wants Temple Police to return the rifle and handgun they confiscated from him. Also, he was arrested March 16, five days after he urged the Temple City Council to declare that citizen rights to keep and bear arms will not be infringed upon.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: god of irony, 4/17/2013 6:58:59 PM     (No. 9281179)

That fat cop looks like he is afraid of anything that isn´t a doughnut.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: NYbob, 4/17/2013 7:04:28 PM     (No. 9281193)

Even if the citizen was ´rude,´ that is no excuse for the cops to not know the law about open carry of long guns in Texas. If they were professional about their job they could have explained to the citizen who called them, what the law is and how this guy was not breaking the Texas law. Unless that law specifies carrying the long gun over the shoulder, on your back.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Northern Redman, 4/17/2013 7:07:50 PM     (No. 9281202)

This is exactly why we must fight to keep our right to bear arms. This cop is the type of person we will need to defend ourselves from.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: HisHandmaiden, 4/17/2013 7:09:11 PM     (No. 9281206)

This case needs to be a Nationwide Lesson... prayers for this family and his Eagle Scout son, who you could hear sobbing and scared on the video... Like fired prof in FL when student refused to "stomp" on the word Jesus written on paper... Kudos to FL Gov for getting involved... Bet Perry will here!

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Reply 8 - Posted by: rburns, 4/17/2013 7:11:10 PM     (No. 9281208)

Both of these thugs operate like bullies with a badge. It´s obvious you don´t have to pass an intelligence test to get in that department. They are a disgrace to the badge. Just the opinion of a former police officer.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: retiredhippy, 4/17/2013 7:12:49 PM     (No. 9281215)

I think the guy hit it on the head...this is more about the cops bruised ego and not getting his hiney kissed than about any violation of the law

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Reply 10 - Posted by: voxpopuli, 4/17/2013 7:13:21 PM     (No. 9281216)

wow.. is THIS an easy one..
lawsuit for ONE BILLION DOLLARS and a quick out of court settlement for one hundred million..
simple..
repeat as necessary...

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Reply 11 - Posted by: LComStaff, 4/17/2013 7:15:08 PM     (No. 9281219)

Please read the rules. Post more than one line of text and split your headlines.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: TunnelRat, 4/17/2013 7:16:08 PM     (No. 9281222)

And on the other hand, let this be a lesson that you´re not going to win an argument with the police on the side of the road. Save your remarks for your day in court, and let the judge explain the law to the police...

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 4/17/2013 7:16:31 PM     (No. 9281224)

Is the turret mounted 50 on my old Deuce&1/2

still legal ?

We hunt wild hogs with it.

Not much bacon in them varmints.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: kanphil, 4/17/2013 7:35:54 PM     (No. 9281265)

#13, no bacon but a lot of satisfaction turning them into compost. One alternative: when I lived in south Georgia my hog huntin´ buddies used to boil the hog meat with swamp cabbage, then throw the meat away and eat the swamp cabbage.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: truthfetish, 4/17/2013 7:45:14 PM     (No. 9281272)

#12, thanks. Never argue with the guy who has all the power in the moment. Even with the camera rolling (ESPECIALLY with the camera rolling) answer questions and immediately ask clarifying questions to disarm him and reveal information or ignorance.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Southernstorm, 4/17/2013 7:57:49 PM     (No. 9281287)

Just watched the video again, I did not see or hear the officer provide Miranda Rights.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: jimK1, 4/17/2013 7:59:54 PM     (No. 9281293)

The cop needs a serious lesson in Civil Rights, the Constitution, Texas law and plain common sense. Then fire his butt for being stupid. As for the PD, a large law suit should stop this kind of travesty in the future, but the town might look around for a new chief.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Southernstorm, 4/17/2013 8:09:29 PM     (No. 9281314)

More information on this, and, a photograph of the veteran shaking President Bush´s hand. I´ve written the Attorney General in Texas.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: mustang flyer, 4/17/2013 8:38:19 PM     (No. 9281359)

This is the type cop Biden should get when he calls for help. By the time this ´heavy´ gets there the statute of limitations might have expired...Don´t confuse him with the law or facts, this guy has an agenda and by gosh he wants to see it through. He should run for the Senate...he certainly meets the criteria.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: thelmalou, 4/17/2013 8:57:59 PM     (No. 9281396)

Somebody in authority out there in Texas needs to have a come-to-Jesus meetin´ with this dude and his superiors.


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Reply 21 - Posted by: afherkdriver, 4/17/2013 9:06:00 PM     (No. 9281409)

Nothing more than a bully with a badge. This is becoming a common action with our law enforcement.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: HPmatt, 4/17/2013 9:25:01 PM     (No. 9281438)

Would you mind if a guy was walking down your street with an AR15? If your kids were playing in the yard would it bother you? If you drove by a guy in your neighborhood with an AR15 strapped to him would you call the cops?

Here is this local cop driving up to a potential nut, a druggie, an AB that shot the DA 75 miles away in Kaufman county last week, a guy with more firepower and a 30 round magazine. How would you approach the guy?

Talk about a knucklehead looking for trouble. I´ve never seen a pack of javelinas on a Texas farm-to-market road. The guy´s got a 45 in his pocket. In getting my hiking merit badge to make Eagle here in Texas, including hikes in East Texas national forest trails, never felt threatened and only once saw a javalina. Never saw feral hogs except when duck hunting.

Here´s a cop checking on a nut and he and his Sergeant are going to get in a bunch of trouble because of a knucklehead. Didn´t see the cop kick the guy, suckerpunch him, cuss him out.

The cop needs more training on citizen´s 2nd amendment rights, but the Dad was a dope here.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: BarryNo, 4/17/2013 9:29:10 PM     (No. 9281445)

It sounds to me as if they don´t care what the Constitution is, what the Law is, or what Justice is. I bet this officer had orders from someone on council to look for the opportunity to come down on this man.

The Left has an agenda. They will use it to kill you, if they can. If he had resisted, that fat cop would have killed him, right in front of his son. And they would have claimed they were defending themselves when he resisted arrest.

Please recall the gentleman a few years ago who was shopping in a store and had his legal concealed carry firearm with him. One of the store dweebs called the police after it was briefly revealed. The store was cleared, and the gentleman, unaware that he was the cause of the alert walked out to be shot dead by a responding officer. The family was denied the right to sue.

At what point must we start to walk in groups and tell such uniformed individuals to kiss off?

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Reply 24 - Posted by: EQKimball, 4/17/2013 9:29:44 PM     (No. 9281446)

A police officer is a public official. Any time a public official misuses his authority, he should be named in the press. Let him explain his actions to his family, friends and neighbors. No privacy law is implicated by naming a pubic official in reporting actions taken in the course and scope of their authority.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: MDMuskrat, 4/17/2013 9:31:47 PM     (No. 9281452)

This story and the video are truly upsetting for any number of reasons.

First and foremost is that this could happen in our America...and in Texas, no less!

Second, I feel very badly for the cop at the center of this controversy. He made some very bad decisions and escalated the issue. Don´t forget, he´s probably got a family, too, and his children will be adversely affected by this law enforcement lapse.

I feel especially badly for 10 y.o. Chris Grisham who was traumatized by the whole incident. This is not the way for young people to interact with, and gain respect for, law enforcement.

And I dearly wish that whomever phoned in the complaint that Sgt. Grisham was "rudely displaying his weapon" will be identified. I would like to hear that person define this phrase...and then spit on them.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: MDMuskrat, 4/17/2013 10:13:24 PM     (No. 9281521)

Please pardon this second post, but I had to come back on and praise poster #22.

He builds a strawman case better than any Democrat I´ve ever met (and yes, that includes Obama and Schumer)...and he does it in one paragraph.

Then, in a relatively brief post, he calls a serving MSgt in the U.S. Army "a potential nut," "druggie," "knucklehead," a "nut" and a "dope."

He also manages to tell us he´s an Eagle Scout and duck hunter...then spells javelina two ways.

I think this guy is bucking for a position as writer for the Puffington Host.

[Son, you done missed the point: carrying a rifle is legal in Texas. When Sgt Grisham is doing it in Iraq or Afghanistan, he´s doing it to protect your sorry arse. Stop calling him names!]

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Southernstorm, 4/17/2013 10:27:42 PM     (No. 9281548)

Well said #26.....only a progressive would take the information and run with it as he/she did. In dove season, deer season, turkey season..etc, it is not unusual to see someone walking in a field or along the road with a rifle in my rural neighborhood....no one blinks an eye.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: Mickturn, 4/17/2013 11:31:57 PM     (No. 9281653)

I would SUE THE COP AND HIS CITY!!!!!!!$

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As North Carolina legislators move to close public access to firearm permits, some sheriffs are already refusing to hand over the records. Following a public showdown with the sheriff in Cherokee County, a local newspaper editor quit last week after his records request – which was denied – made him the target of death threats. The county has the state’s highest rate of concealed-handgun permits. In Gaston County, Sheriff Alan Cloninger responded Friday to a newspaper’s request for gun-permit records by withholding names and addresses of permit holders.

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