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AG sues florist who refused
flowers to gay wedding

Seattle Post-Intelligencer [WA], by Joel Connelly

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Posted By:KarenJ1, 4/10/2013 2:28:46 PM

State Attorney General Bob Ferguson on Tuesday filed a consumer protection lawsuit against Arlene’s Flowers & Gifts, a Richland florist that refused to supply flowers to the same-sex marriage of a longtime customer. Ferguson said he sent a March 28 letter to owner Barronelle Stutzman asking her to reconsider and supply flowers to customer Robert Ingersoll. Through an attorney, Stutzman declined to change her position.“As Attorney General, it is my job to enforce the laws of the state of Washington,” said Ferguson. “Under the Consumer Protection Act, it is unlawful to discriminate

Some people are more free than others in this country. This really, really infuriates me. This is what happens when leftists rule the world.


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Reply 1 - Posted by: crimea river, 4/10/2013 2:33:37 PM     (No. 9268969)

This is the dark side of same-sex marriage, which is supposed to be about love. Watch for the lawsuits against wedding caterers, photographers, venues and yes, even priests and rabbis.

Reply 2 - Posted by: JoElla Bee, 4/10/2013 2:35:44 PM     (No. 9268971)

Arlene, "you didn´t build that."




Reply 3 - Posted by: schnapps, 4/10/2013 2:50:39 PM     (No. 9268992)

Arlene should declare loudly that she´s a Muslim and the AG will be hearing from the local CAIR office shortly.

Reply 4 - Posted by: O.S. Banker, 4/10/2013 2:50:49 PM     (No. 9268993)

Next filing will be against the Arch Diosces (sp?) for failure to perform a ceremony.

Reply 5 - Posted by: tsquare, 4/10/2013 2:54:12 PM     (No. 9269005)

In a reasonable state, first amendment rights of the florist would trump these false claims.

Reply 6 - Posted by: trapper, 4/10/2013 3:03:01 PM     (No. 9269027)

Letter from the AG: “Under the Consumer Protection Act, it is unlawful to discriminate against customers based on sexual orientation."

OK. Time to change the law BACK so that it once again IS legal to discriminate against people on the basis of their sexual orientation. Why should their sexual proclivities be given legally protected priority over everyone else´s right to object to them?

Reply 7 - Posted by: John c, 4/10/2013 3:09:40 PM     (No. 9269039)

Rush just mentioned this .
So sick that every news cycle has to have a story on how down-trod the deviants are.




Reply 8 - Posted by: thatsomewhereplace, 4/10/2013 3:16:16 PM     (No. 9269053)

First of all...how did she know it was for a "gay wedding"? When placing an order how many of us tell the florist this is for a heterosexual wedding? You might tell them an item is for a baby shower or a funeral. You might order for a wedding. Wonder what the floral make up? Lots of pansies?

Reply 9 - Posted by: Coy860, 4/10/2013 3:27:36 PM     (No. 9269072)

I hate shoes and go barefoot as much as possible.
Can I now go out to dinner and claim I have a "foot fetish" so they will seat me without shoes? One´s sexual orientation can be any sexual orientation. Hey, I love my feet. s/

Reply 10 - Posted by: NYbob, 4/10/2013 3:52:34 PM     (No. 9269123)

Send them some paper flowers. Explain that if they pretend hard enough, they will be real flowers.

Reply 11 - Posted by: Grant Hodges, 4/10/2013 3:55:36 PM     (No. 9269126)

The Democrat Deviant plan is to make every American an accomplice to murder by abortion and to perversion by requiring regular people to aid and accommodate perverts.

This is how the Democrats intend to finish off Christianity for daring to vote against them. It´s always about attacking opposition voting blocks at their jobs, in their neighborhoods, and in their churches. It doesn´t matter that they give lip service to Christianity on holidays. They hate Christianity.

Reply 12 - Posted by: Quaestio, 4/10/2013 4:10:26 PM     (No. 9269145)

I thought a private business could refuse service to anyone. Is that true or not? Is the problem that the florist made it clear that it was because it was for a gay wedding? If she had just said, sorry, we´re all booked that week, would that be okay?




Reply 13 - Posted by: SoCalGal, 4/10/2013 4:28:48 PM     (No. 9269179)

I believe this is against the law.

Reply 14 - Posted by: earlybird, 4/10/2013 4:32:05 PM     (No. 9269185)

Re #8, answers to questions are in article. Just read it.

But she is not rolling over and playing dead:

But Stutzman’s attorneys warned the AG that any legal action Ferguson takes would result in “an immediate challenge in federal court,” and indicated that “a number of national non-profit organizations . . . are ready for a fight.”

Reply 15 - Posted by: jlw509, 4/10/2013 4:34:00 PM     (No. 9269187)

She´s clearly not refusing service to them because of their sexual orientation. The article clearly states that both of these men had been her customers for years. She presumably had sold them both flowers regardless of their personal sexual arousal pattern.

If they had sent their straight friend over to place the order for the flowers for the gay pseudonuptials, she would have still declined because it was for an activity --- not a disfavored person, but an activity --- she could not morally support.

It had nothing to do with any animus against the individual person who came to the counter.

Reply 16 - Posted by: dst4life, 4/10/2013 4:35:53 PM     (No. 9269188)

#8 The florists probably were informed ahead of time--as they were targeted--and this was deliberate.

Reply 17 - Posted by: earlybird, 4/10/2013 4:42:15 PM     (No. 9269198)

Read the article...

These men had been customers of this florist for years. But when it came to doing their "wedding", she told them she could not because of her religious conviction. They hugged, they went away, she thought it was over.

They must have a lawyer friend. And now they´ve lost a good florist they liked.

It is patently absurd to post about an article one has not read. It shows.




Reply 18 - Posted by: just another nerd, 4/10/2013 5:09:45 PM     (No. 9269238)

So the florist is a slave and must perform work for whoever asks.

Reply 19 - Posted by: tomanderson61, 4/10/2013 5:10:20 PM     (No. 9269239)

NAMBLA worker goes into a cake store and demands a cake that reads "Celebration of Man Boy love week".

Cake shop refuses?

Lawsuit? If I am a boudoir photographer, do I REALLY have to go and shoot two guys in leather butt pants making out? Or get a major lawsuit?

Should some nutty state drop the age of consent to 13, do I have to take wedding pictures of some old guy and some little girl, or be again faced with a lawsuit?


Reply 20 - Posted by: snapper451, 4/10/2013 5:17:33 PM     (No. 9269250)

Give us a break. Aren´t there more important issues than this for an AG to be concerned with? If I own a business and choose not to serve you - I do it at my own risk of losing business. It is none of the governments business.

Reply 21 - Posted by: web, 4/10/2013 5:31:49 PM     (No. 9269267)

This is what happens when State-imposed segregation is overturned and State-imposed integration is instituted. It´s still government interfering in the rights of Americans to associate with whom they wish. Whenever government gets involved, the end result is some have more rights than others. A PRIVATE business should be able to choose who they wish as customers, no matter the reason. It is none of the government´s business.

Reply 22 - Posted by: Japanorama, 4/10/2013 5:54:13 PM     (No. 9269291)

How many Muslim organizations has he sued?
I thought so.



Reply 23 - Posted by: mitzi, 4/10/2013 5:57:23 PM     (No. 9269295)

We could use some "conscientious objector" statues!

Reply 24 - Posted by: BigGeorgeTX, 4/10/2013 6:05:35 PM     (No. 9269309)

Consumer protection? Really? Are there no other florists in the area?

Reply 25 - Posted by: mitzi, 4/10/2013 6:15:54 PM     (No. 9269327)

That should be "statutes" at #23, but I´m sure you all realized that.

Reply 26 - Posted by: JoElla Bee, 4/10/2013 6:37:30 PM     (No. 9269360)

Apologies if my somewhat flippant response was misleading. Guess I assumed that remark conveyed the following opinion. [That´s what assumin´ll getcha! ;)]

How many similar lawsuits have we seen through the years against small business owners - a florist, a baker, a landlord - whose rights increasingly mean nothing, and who may lose all they´ve worked for at the whim of someone with a momentary grievance or who is party to an agenda?

Of course, Barronelle Stutzman did not discriminate against them because of their "lifestyle", and, of course, she should not be forced to change her position and act against her religious beliefs. Her decision to challenge the suit is precisely the response needed, and the one most would hope to be able to make under similar circumstances. Thankfully, “a number of national non-profit organizations . . . are ready for a fight.”

The state has taxpayer dollars to pay their expenses - including Barronelle Stutzman´s.

Reply 27 - Posted by: Capt Scurvey, 4/10/2013 6:40:20 PM     (No. 9269364)

"I believe this is against the law..."

You are correct, #13; it´s the law that´s against the law...

Reply 28 - Posted by: belwhatter, 4/10/2013 6:55:20 PM     (No. 9269386)

What else would anyone expect of Washington State? we have the daftest bunch of democrats holding office. One caller to the local morning talk show alluded to the florist and all who support her as bigots.This is an interesting accusation usually levelled by people who deny anyone with a different viewpoint their first amendment rights, and use the term bigot to cover up their own slimy intolerant bigotry.

Reply 29 - Posted by: dwa, 4/10/2013 7:02:50 PM     (No. 9269397)

Is this same liberal AG suing companies that hire illegal´s? Thought not. So much for his claim to have to enforce the laws.

Reply 30 - Posted by: Ida Lil, 4/10/2013 8:15:07 PM     (No. 9269474)

King county where 115 to 125 % of registered voters toss elections for liberal candidates and causes.
First determine if the State A.G. is gay and
determine if the florist is a victim of homosexual harassment.

Reply 31 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 4/11/2013 12:40:13 AM     (No. 9269760)

Some group would do a lot of business by starting a insurance company protecting the religious views of business owners.

Maybe she will start a fund so people can donate for her lawsuit.

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