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Double Action: Two NY Times Columnists
Embarrass Themselves on Guns in Sunday Review

NewsBusters, by Clay Waters

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Posted By:FlyRight, 4/9/2013 7:43:54 AM

Two New York Times columnists embarrassed themselves over the weekend, betraying anti-gun ignorance in the paper´s Sunday Review.Frank Bruni went hunting for the first time (with the chef of a ritzy Manhattan restaurant), and remarked "what an unfair fight" hunting is, as if he was the first person to think that up. After lamenting "how thoroughly a weapon can be romanticized and fetishized," he pivoted to easy access to guns in "this country of ours." I could forget, when not aiming at a bird, to keep the gun pointed toward the sky or the ground.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: mws50, 4/9/2013 7:57:02 AM     (No. 9266486)

This is not news. NYT employees embarrass themselves on a daily basis. Every one of the NYT employees are excellent examples of why journalism has become the dumbest profession on our planet.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Mass Minority, 4/9/2013 8:00:16 AM     (No. 9266489)

The odds of an armed citizen taking out a crazed lunatic in a darkened theater are one in a thousand.

The odds of an unarmed citizen taking out a crazed lunatic in a darkened theater are Zero.

If you were the next victim in the line of fire which odds would you want?

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Reply 3 - Posted by: krause, 4/9/2013 8:01:47 AM     (No. 9266492)

How naive are these guys. They´ve must have lived in their snobby, liberal bubble all their lives. Their world is the only world, to them, apparently.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: alpha91c, 4/9/2013 8:11:54 AM     (No. 9266507)

Ignorance of guns does not mean one cannot dislike and distrust guns and the people that carry guns. In fact, ignorance tends to foster fear.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: BarryNo, 4/9/2013 8:24:49 AM     (No. 9266530)

The Second Amendment is to protect Me, the citizen, from a corrupt government. It requires We the People to agree with Me, the citizen, that I am not merely being stupid or selfish, and that said corrupt government is indeed a threat to the various Me(s) in We the People.

This government is one that legalizes the murder of children, and claims children belong to some sort of collective. They hide from parents the fact they are teaching those children things that, as private citizens and not ´educators´, they would be arrested and jailed for decades as pedophiles and perverts.

This government is one that enforces Laws only on their enemies or on the helpless, when America was founded on the principle that Law applied to all.

This government believes that all money belongs to the government, and that the government ´permits´ us to keep a few crumbs for our daily labor. They spend lavishly on themselves while telling us to be responsible and tighten our belts.

This government uses bribery, indoctrination, propaganda and the promotion of degenerate lifestyles to enslave people.

Tell me: When do the Minute Men march?

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Reply 6 - Posted by: faith_and_reason, 4/9/2013 8:42:51 AM     (No. 9266543)

Of course the liberals and gun-grabbers do not have the sense to feel shame for their idiotic comments on guns. They hear responible gun owners talk of what is needed when a mass-murder attempt in public occurs, and they conclude that the responsble gun-owner is someone whose "thinking is quite paranoid" and who cannot be trusted to own or carry a weapon.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Attila DiMedici, 4/9/2013 8:47:58 AM     (No. 9266547)

To liberals the idea that someone with a gun might stop a mass shooter is ridiculous, but extending that argument to its logical conclusion (that there is no reason for the police to carry guns) is an "absurd, extremist argument."

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Clinger, 4/9/2013 9:08:55 AM     (No. 9266573)

Well put L-dotters, what should be an embarrassment escapes those with no objective mechanism for reflection.

The 2nd amendment is about keeping the people in a position of power as the ultimate check and balance against government. It´s not about hunting, target shooting, not even primarily individual protection, but a larger protection against tyranny. We have already lost much of that protection as the government has vastly superior technology, and the statists would have us step an additional rung down the technology ladder presuming they can take 125 year old semi-auto technology away from us.

The biggest loss of our 2nd amendment right is the collective right. And we thought the individual right was the issue! No longer can the responsible citizens of the community band together for the protection of the community. This is what Militia meant in the 18th century. Now such is an illegal "paramilitary" group.

Today we are supposed to march in lock step with the notion that the "National Guard" is somehow the militia. Note the "National" part of that. Absurd. We have been the frog in the boiling water for some time, further back than my tadpole days. Now they are dipping our boiled butts in the tarter sauce.


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Reply 9 - Posted by: Teleologicus, 4/9/2013 9:28:58 AM     (No. 9266604)

It seems to be an inner contradiction of civilization that eventually renders beneficiaries effete and unable(or perhaps unwilling) to cope with reality. Since the industrial revolution the problem has worsened by orders of magnitude. The digital revolution may prove to have been the last straw. More and more people live in virtual, not actual reality. They do not know the difference. And because of the technological suspension of actuality -the ability of technology to mask or even seem to refute the basic biological issues of survival- Westerners now wander like sleepwalkers through a sort of perpetual Disney Magic Kingdom in which everything is easy and safe. This has lowered the threshold for risk aversion. Matters that only a short time ago would have seemed trivial are today regarded with horror and dismay, fit subjects for fresh regulations and legislation. This is probably inevitable. It is probably part of the growth and death cycles of civilizations.

Our intelligentsia and bien-pensant have become self-righteous sissies, brave to the point of bullying towards fellow Americans who do not see things their way, craven cowards and appeasers towards genuine and extremely dangerous enemies of America.

One can only imagine what short work Achilles, were he somehow restored to life, would make of the sissies in our institutions of culture and elsewhere.

Actually, of course, Achilles is not dead. He only sleeps, under a temporary spell cast by the technological suspension of the actual. There will come a time when he and his tribe will return.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Uno, 4/9/2013 9:41:27 AM     (No. 9266623)

Self-absorbed Nitwits who would dictate policy were they in position to do so!

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Italiano, 4/9/2013 9:44:51 AM     (No. 9266630)

"He is the last person I would want making judgments and choosing to ´protect´ the public, as his thinking was quite paranoid. He thought that his thinking was quite mainstream and normal.)"

Yeah, that happens quite a bit.

The irony is no doubt lost, but what the heck.


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Reply 12 - Posted by: disasterman, 4/9/2013 11:02:35 AM     (No. 9266798)

Thank you #12, irony indeed. I was trying to think of a way to express that same thought.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: hoosier-luger, 4/9/2013 11:14:14 AM     (No. 9266825)

The odds of taking out an insane killer in a school -- wherein the teachers are armed and have spent one hour on the gun range every 3 months -- are one in one.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: hoosier-luger, 4/9/2013 11:19:38 AM     (No. 9266840)

Am I missing something in all this sophistication (or perhaps semi-attenuated sophistry)?

Is it paranoid to shoot back?


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Reply 15 - Posted by: hoosier-luger, 4/9/2013 11:29:29 AM     (No. 9266860)

Poster No. 2 falls into a frequent fallacy of (il)logic – i.e., that of reliance upon anecdotal and/or personal evidence as a basis for determining public policy.

Manifestly, the “I-once-knew-a-person” school of argument is designed to cut-off rational debate.

And, of course, No. 2’s particular anecdotal argument is about as reasonable as arguing that I once knew a paranoid person named “Adam Lanza”, and I wouldn’t want him to be armed in public or anywhere else.

Oh, really??


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Reply 16 - Posted by: hoosier-luger, 4/9/2013 11:39:40 AM     (No. 9266887)

Speaking of anecdotal evidence, after my Dad had died I took my retired school teacher mother out shooting.

The first 3 or 4 rounds missed the “home invader” target -- at point black range. Upon reloading, and a tiny bit of instruction, I asked her to put the gun down and then to pick it up rapidly, but safely, and fire until empty.

She reminded me of Dirty Harry.

Don’t tell me that school teachers can’t shoot when it’s time to protect children….


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Reply 17 - Posted by: NYbob, 4/9/2013 12:59:27 PM     (No. 9267024)

#2 why not do something useful like joining the NRA and working to get Project Exile working in every American city? Instead of posting the same whine.

Wait, you do know about Project Exile, right? The alternative is empty talk by various mayors, like Emanuel, who simply don´t enforce the kind of laws you constantly refer to. It´s almost like liberals would rather show the blood of all the victims that result from their actions, instead of DOING something about it.

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