In a revelation that may have Colorado voters rethinking their state’s push on gun control, court documents revealed that the mass shooting in Aurora that killed 12 and injured 70 more could have been prevented by law enforcement. The psychiatrist for suspect, James Holmes, had warned campus police that Holmes was dangerous and homicidal a month before the shooting took place. Lynne Fenton even told the police that Holmes had begun to stalk and threaten her, and yet no action was apparently taken: A University of Colorado psychiatrist told campus police a month before the Aurora
Comments: What a horrible tragedy that is that could have possibly been prevented. No wonder they wanted to keep that information sealed.
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The Architect, 4/5/2013 10:24:28 AM (No. 9260849)
Lets see how Emperor Zippy the first and Governor Cuomo react to this revelation. I have to believe they had this information anyway shortly after the incident bit chose to suppress it because it didn´t fit their agendas.
Read about the Tarasoff decision in California in the 1970s. Mental health staff at U. California warned police about a similar situation. The police interviewed the person, let him go, and he later murdered Tatiana Tarasoff. Upshot: the murderer was released and sent back to India, the police were exonerated of any blame, and the psychiatrist and psychologist were sued. This present case shows the corruption of the "justice system" and the "gun control" movement to twist truth to achieve their aims. Good journalism to uncover this attempt to tell The Big Lie.
Ah...but a ´key´ element is missed here - she told the campus police the guy was homicidal...
Now, if she´d told them he was making disparaging comments about gays...or refusing to stand for the Mexican national anthem...or questioning why some guy with shaved legs was using the women´s restroom...
You can be *sure* that appropriate attention would have been paid.
She notified campus police and then he dropped out of school. How good is the communication between the campus cops, the Aurora PD and other Colorado law enforcement? My suspicion is it is poor because campus polices tend to see their job as protecting college kids from themselves rather than protecting the general population. There´s a what happens on campus stays on campus mentality. The problem of privacy laws may also play a factor.
This happens all too frequently. Typically, a family member is the one who is killed, or the mentally ill person kills himself. In this situation, he killed strangers.
The problem is the law. Even a psychiatrist cannot get a homicidal person hospitalized without proving to a judge that the person is a threat. Typically the judge won´t approve unless evidence is overwhelming...but by then, someone may be injured or dead. Imagine if a heart attack victim were found on the street, taken to the ER and the doc said, "Sorry, I can´t have him hospitalized until I explain the risks to a judge and get his permission." That is the state of mental health in the US today.
Anyone who believes all this gun control garbage is about safety of the masses is smoking that stuff bubba didn´t inhale. It´s about making control of the masses easier for those who would be dictator.
Under existing Colorado law the psychiatrist could have notified local law enforcement that the patient was mentally ill and making serious threats. This would have caused them to apprehend and escort him involuntarily to a legally approved psychiatric facility for evaluation and possible admission for up to 72 hours without further ado. It is a myth and a false narrative constantly repeated by the media and others that it is impossibly difficult of complex to have a mentally ill person who is thought dangerous evaluated against their will. Every state in the Union, to my knowledge, has similar laws providing for this. Peace officers can do it if they judge it necessary. All that is necessary is to pick up the phone and dial 911.
The confusion about emergency mental health evaluation seems to result from mixing it up with longer term involuntary hospitalization for treatment.
Once again we see the pernicious effects of the refusal of public officials to make pertinent information about high profile politically charged crimes available to the public. Journalists in this case did their job and sued to get the information, which authorities had stubbornly refused to make available.
A couple of decades ago on Cape Cod, there was a young man who had been institutionalized, and then released, on the provision that he show up at the hospital every day for his meds.
Should he not get his meds, they would alert his mother.
Why? because he had threatened to kill his mother, and he was taken seriously. well, sort of.
One day he didn´t show up. They tried to reach his mother. Too late. She was found decapitated. (by the way, no firearms present)
There are homicidal maniacs in the world, always have been. There is evil, and no amount of social programming by Man will ever eradicate evil.
Psychiatrists and other "mental health professionals" must be able to report individuals for hospitalization at the very least, for observation. And then, committed, if necessary, and reviewed regularly.
Jared Loughner is another obviously sick man. His parents were aware of his violent "peculiarities" or creepy interests. I can imagine how hard it would be to turn in your own child.
Needless to say, we would not want every odd-ball to end up in an institution... the Soviets did that sort of thing, and odd-balls were usually those speaking out against the regime.
The Psychiatrist should be charged. This is no different then a failure to report a case of child abuse. The Psychiatrist knows the proceedure to follow regarding a pt. that is danger to himelf or others, but couldn´t be bothered.
I fear the real issue here is the desire by progressives to vest restriction of consitutional rights by Drs. or worse LEO without adjudication by a court.
Biden has already stated that they have no interest in using the laws they already have, and background checks will continue to be skipped. Gotta have those new laws, which curiously enough happen to just be on the Dem´s long time wish list, and will have no effect on public safety.
Since the police will probably cite a heavy workload, a backlog of cases and matters to investigate, I suggest we should have FEWER laws harrassing non-violent gun owners, FEWER laws requiring paperwork of the gun-owners and gun shops.
By the way, if mere citizens could access the "background check" records without notifying the government of a sale, or what was sold, or to whom, then I would be totally in favor of it. Who wouldn´t?
The Aurora shooter sounds very similar to Jared Loughner, a victim of paranoid schizophrenia.
Although, as usual, the public STILL does not have all the facts in the Jared Loughner(Gabby Giffords et al.) mass shooting, Wikipedia has a good article detailing what has been made available.
Jared Loughner had been deteriorating mentally for years before the shooting. Everybody who dealt with him saw it.
Dozens of people, including Loughner´s parents, knew that he was mentally ill and potentially dangerous. He was suspended from college for this pending a psychiatric evaluation which he never got. His father confiscated his shotgun and disabled his vehicle.
Arizona has some of the most lenient involuntary mental health laws in the nation. Almost anybody could have petitioned for an emergency involuntary psychiatric evaluation: parents, school officials, students, campus police, local law enforcement, even a total stranger who had reason to think he was mentally ill and dangerous. According to the (incomplete) facts made public thus far, nobody, nobody at all bothered to take this step. Apparently his parents pleaded with him to get help - but of course, being insane already, he could not decide to do so. They may have been unaware of mental health law but one would have thought they would have investigated and found out what to do. The police certainly knew. Nobody did anything.
Wikipedia also has an interesting article on involuntary psychiatric hospitalization in general: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Involuntary_commitment
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