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The Unimportance Of The
Gay Marriage Issue

Irish Examiner USA, by Alicia Colon

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Posted By:toledo, 4/4/2013 6:55:21 AM

Announcements by potential 2016 candidates, Hillary Clinton and Rob Portman, that they now approve of gay marriage made headlines as predicted. Never once discussed, however, by advocates is how this issue has anything to do with the economic state of the nation today. Legalizing gay marriage will not improve the economy nor is it really that important to the average homosexual. Celebrity nuptials and endorsements may garner news coverage stressing it as a civil rights issue but ironically these come from a wealthier than average demographic. The average homosexual has concerns that are much more aligned

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Bevan, 4/4/2013 7:25:28 AM     (No. 9258616)

Smoke, mirrors, bread, and circuses. It will collapse!

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Reply 2 - Posted by: dwillyc, 4/4/2013 7:31:27 AM     (No. 9258625)

I think the hetero world should use the phrase True Marriage when referencing a union of man and woman.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Wetlandz, 4/4/2013 7:42:45 AM     (No. 9258632)

This is what happens when media and pop culture run our lives by forcing this issue with an iron grip.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: jackson, 4/4/2013 8:16:03 AM     (No. 9258696)

On the contrary - it is THE issue, because it is a defining issue. We can have a booming economy and a winning hocky team but the mental and moral health of the nation is more important. The other side knows this - that´s why they are so relentless. And why our defeatism is demoralizing.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Ray_Stoddard, 4/4/2013 8:21:49 AM     (No. 9258708)

(reply #2) "I think the hetero world should use the phrase True Marriage when referencing a union of man and woman."
No, We had it first. They should come up with a new phrase. Really, they don´t want equal treatment. They want the Identity of marriage. Not close, the same. (nothing could be further from the truth, actually) They want destruction of an institution.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: anonymous, 4/4/2013 8:37:55 AM     (No. 9258746)

Very few gay people decide to get married in states where gay civil marriage is now legal. It just goes to show that the passion surrounding the right to gay marriage is not reflected in the reality of most gay people´s lives. Therefore, I´d say that Alicia Colon has a point.


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Reply 7 - Posted by: LZK, 4/4/2013 8:41:11 AM     (No. 9258756)

3% of the American population has held the Supremes hostage for how many weeks? AND how many more?

Our country is imploding and the gays are upset. Call your friends -- have a party -- promise to honor and obey -- and leave my (heteros) people go.....

LZK

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Reply 8 - Posted by: RancherJack, 4/4/2013 9:01:34 AM     (No. 9258792)

Giddy ´marriage´

Then come the bitter ´divorces´

That ought to cure ´em

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Reply 9 - Posted by: nvr4get911, 4/4/2013 9:14:39 AM     (No. 9258819)

Why can´t the Republicans see this for what it is and ignore the issue. Wish they would do what Fred Thompson did in 2008 debate too. Mccain and Romney showed what we could expect as noted by author.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: southernboy, 4/4/2013 9:15:39 AM     (No. 9258824)

#7 “...3% of the American population has held the Supremes hostage for how many weeks? AND how many more?…”

Well, 13% have held America hostage since about 1968…so why not? ‘Majority rules’ only works for elections, it seems….but only if the minority wins!

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Reply 11 - Posted by: indccc, 4/4/2013 9:27:09 AM     (No. 9258852)

I don´t understand how people can´t see how important the issue of gay "marriage" is. If the Court decides that gay "marriage" is a right,then every religious institution will have to accept and perform marriages or they will be breaking the law. The first ammendment of the Bill of Rights is on it´s way to being gutted as there will be no more religious freedom in this country!

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Reply 12 - Posted by: yuban, 4/4/2013 9:39:47 AM     (No. 9258893)

Ignoring the issue is the same as ignoring the Bible, God´s Word.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: smittychap, 4/4/2013 9:42:19 AM     (No. 9258898)

Colon is deeply wrong. The campaign to foist the oxymoron of same sex marriage on society is profoundly insidious and important. It ultimately entails forcing society to accept and acknowledge the twisted notion that homosexuality is equal to and not qualitatively different than natural heterosexuality.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: jlw509, 4/4/2013 9:50:59 AM     (No. 9258913)

I do love Alicia Colon, but she is missing something. Most people only find the gay hoopla mildly nonsensical. Silly. Or merely irritating. I fear most people do NOT know the totalitarian crisis we are facing.

Try organizing any activity or service in support of specifically gender-normal kids, man-woman marriage or mom-dad families, and you’ll find out you can’t. Examples:


• a boys’ or girls’ activity group (like BSA)
• a dating service (like e-Harmony)
• religious wedding venue (like Methodist Ocean Grove)
• an adoption program (like Catholic Social Services)
• personal counseling (like by an Armed Forces chaplain)
• a (real) marital sexuality speakers´ series
• a values-based group for husbands (specifically) and wives (specifically)
• a counseling program supporting kids’ real gender identity
• a University course on Family Law
• a Father-Daughter Dance
• a Father-Son Sports Day

Anything at all related to normal child development, relationships, courtship, weddings, family-building, fertility, adoption, ANYTHING...if you don’t rewrite your program content to affirm the LGBT gender perspective, they will take you down for "illegal, invidious discrimination" or “hate speech” --- yes, take you to court, and shut you down.

This is no unimportant detain. This is no joke. Will the LGBT deconstruction of marriage, sex and gender affect my marriage? It will affect every marriage,family, school, church, and child in America.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: abuela10, 4/4/2013 9:53:47 AM     (No. 9258923)

What the article is about is that it shouldn´t be the focus of campaigns because the Dems have the upper hand on emotional issues . Voters should be voting for saving the nation from the Obama administration which is spending us into oblivion. The gay advocates can´t force a change if the voters know the truth and who´s behind it

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Reply 16 - Posted by: kens, 4/4/2013 9:55:35 AM     (No. 9258925)

The people to look long and hard at are the clergy. Yes, those wonderful folks who wear the collars and robes of organized religion. They either have gone round the bend or they don´t have the stomach or the will to stand up and protest. For example, the Catholic Church and even the Pope welcome Nancy Abortion Pelosi to the Vatican to take communion. Not good. It seems to me that the clergy of today need to get it together like the priestly Barrigan brothers of yore and take to the streets in protest. If they don´t, and don´t motivate others, then next we´ll be tolerating marriage between pet owners and their animals.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: ramona, 4/4/2013 9:57:19 AM     (No. 9258929)

Love Alicia and concede that she makes good points here. But that proverbial horse is out of the barn - the militant leftists have already created a climate in which anyone opposing gay marriage is marginalized or worse, and where only one view on sexuality - the most militant one - is allowed to be taught (let alone discussed) in public venues. It is now incumbent on those of us who want to protect children from purveyors of "the earlier they have sex the better" approach to stand up and confront the radical, vicious bigotry of the left.
Ramona (the Pest)

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Reply 18 - Posted by: TexasRose, 4/4/2013 10:10:59 AM     (No. 9258957)

Those preachers who do not want to perform gay "marriage" or churches who do not want gay "marriage" in their buildings, will need to ONLY allow marriages of members in the building or to perform marriages of members. If that is the policy, then I don´t believe that homosexuals can sue them for discrimination.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: bedub, 4/4/2013 10:27:21 AM     (No. 9258987)

So, when gay marriage (as opposed to Marriage) is passed, and it will be, can we do away with all of the special privileges for Domestic Partnerships? After all , that was invented for the gays.



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Reply 20 - Posted by: little guy, 4/4/2013 10:27:39 AM     (No. 9258989)

As far as I am personally concerned, the gays who get "married" can take their "marriage" certificates and frame them and then hang them on the wall next to the letter they got from Santa Claus when they were five. Basically, they are both just as real. Unfortunately, that ain´t the point. Once that social wall tumbles down, there´s no telling what will run out. Look for religious institutions to be sued for not allowing it to happen on their tax-subsidized land, look for the age of consent to be lowered because who are you to deny true love even though it is between a teenage boy and a 30 year old man? Look for someone to want to marry two other people at the same time, watch while others claim they should be allowed to give their social security checks to their "wives" --- so they need to marry their sisters. It´s only fair! To avoid paying inheritance tax, others will "marry" close relatives too. It is just the beginning, like poster #14 noted above.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: msjena, 4/4/2013 10:32:02 AM     (No. 9259002)

I don´t understand why the gay marriage issue matters for the President or other federal representatives. It´s a state law issue. It´s like asking them if they favor riverboat gambling. If the people of New York or elsewhere want gay marriage, so be it. Likewise, if the people of California don´t want it, so be it.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: TJ Jackson, 4/4/2013 10:40:10 AM     (No. 9259026)

So, when 2 homosexuals get married, then a week later each go to a bath house to enjoy many other men, is that adultery?

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Happy Trails, 4/4/2013 11:26:05 AM     (No. 9259142)

God established marriage in Genesis. It is his plan. When the United States government, through it´s courts, with the concent of the governed, throws his design to the curb, we can expect chaos and destruction. Fundamental truth. The little nut job in Korea may find a way to kill our people, and for what? God´s protection for the country, based on his Word and rule, can be withdrawn. One emp bomb launched anywhere over our coast, would lead to the utter destruction of our system. Look what the 9-11 fallout was, with only limited destruction. Proud and vain leaders are on the path to ruin. Look at the state we are in now. Blessing what God condemns is suicidal.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: bluehouse, 4/4/2013 11:27:35 AM     (No. 9259145)

#4 & 14 are so right. Few people or organizations can afford the endless legal fights to defend their moral principles. I would rather be able to practice my faith freely than have a good job.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: shamus, 4/4/2013 11:31:28 AM     (No. 9259159)

This is just haggling over government benefits.

There´s no prohibition on gay marriage.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Dragonslayer2, 4/4/2013 11:49:19 AM     (No. 9259213)

I don´t care if Joe ties up with Jack, but I think it should be called something other than marriage. Yankee Doodle stuck a feather in his cap and called it
" macaroni", but that didn´t make it so.

I also think the relationship should be contractual so that the remnants of these fusions are not going around later ignoring their duties and obligations that would naturally result from such associations, no matter what they them.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: msjena, 4/4/2013 11:52:13 AM     (No. 9259220)

#14--I agree with everything you say. But there is nothing to stop gay marriage where the people vote for it. The fight is not about stopping it altogether but about whether it is a civil right that is guaranteed and protected by the Constitution. If not (and I hope the Supreme Court holds it is not), marriage is an issue of state law and the states can do what they want.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: thelmalou, 4/4/2013 12:29:06 PM     (No. 9259310)

Oh, Alicia, dearest - you are such a treasure. I could not agree more. Well done!


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Reply 29 - Posted by: lavalette, 4/4/2013 1:50:28 PM     (No. 9259450)

The poltical fight over same sexmarriage is a proxy for the actual fight, which is whether we should cut the final thread that ties our civil law to god´s moral law. If and when that final thread is cut there will be consequences we cannot imagine.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: ebuilder, 4/4/2013 3:02:52 PM     (No. 9259542)

This is really a matter of the state usurping God. This is not about compassion, or about elections having consequences [Lindsey Grahamnesty]. This not merely about the fact that the homosexual lobby and a closeted, illegal President dominate left wing politics -- so live with it. No majority, had they known the agenda, would have voted for a President who would use the tyranny of czars and Executive Orders and Cloward Piven and lies and outrage and racist provocation to destroy us. Lacking a Press, no one today has any idea of the success of Obama´s Un-American agenda, and how close we are to losing our God given freedom. This is not merely confused sybaritic thinking, or O´Reilly-thinking that sees a compelling argument here for supporting every American´s freedom of choice. This is about Treason before God, and collectivist Treason in your name, because you did not speak up. This is also about the Press continuing to permit the weakest among us to be seduced by white noise. This is about safe and selective editing. This is about rich silent sirens in the media, who control your language as well as the flow information [q.v. the AP & yesterday´s "style" editing of the concept "illegal immigrant"]. This is about an octopus of leaders who do not fear any accountability or the truth coming out anymore -- from ANYWHERE -- as they proceed with their coup. It is therefore interesting to me this take was posted as your Must Read.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: saguni, 4/4/2013 5:01:21 PM     (No. 9259722)

Sodomites have all the rights that heterosexuals enjoy, but they want more.

In every state in this country, they have the "right" to love any consenting adult they wish, in any combination, and they have the "right" to contractually form their personal and economical lives in any way they wish. As long as they do not abuse young children by exposing them to unnatural sexual acts in public, I could care less what they do with their bodies.

But they should not force graphic carnal knowledge of their "lifestyle choice" on young children...in school classes OR in public exhibitions.

And they don´t have the "right" to change the definition of a word that has been used to describe the basic unit of civilization since history began. Pick another word or make up a word, but don´t change a word that has been in every dictionary ever printed.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: Desert Fox, 4/4/2013 6:13:17 PM     (No. 9259830)

Extending Special Rights to the Perverse Sexual Deviant participating Sodomites and Lesbians Will in Fact result in Criminalizing the practicing, preaching or sharing of the word of God from the Holy Bible of Christianity. That is the end goal of the Godless Humanists.


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Reply 33 - Posted by: lanika, 4/4/2013 8:35:41 PM     (No. 9260001)

I love this quote FTA:
"Let´s have a real study that shows that kids raised with love develop fine regardless of the marital status of their nurturers but that having a mother and father in a loving committed marriage is still the optimum choice and one that all children deserve."

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Reply 34 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 4/5/2013 12:58:10 AM     (No. 9260231)

#14, you make excellent points.

What about the rights of clergy to live their faith, and minister to their flock, as their faith teaches? As Cardinal George said, "I expect to die in bed, my successor to die in prison, and his successor to die a martyr in the public square." Perhaps that is no longer such an unbelievable prospect.

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Daily Caller, by Vince Coglianese    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 3:59:04 PM     Post Reply
The White House is going to war with another fox — and this time, it’s personal. The Wall Street Journal reports that a red fox has been causing chaos around the White House, tripping security alarms, digging up Michelle’s garden and distracting the president from his duties. The Secret Service won’t give any details about how often the fox trips the White House’s obviously sophisticated security alarms, but rest assured, officials say, they’re watching. President Obama was apparently “stunned” to see the fox roaming freely down the oft-photographed White House colonnade, home to the world’s shortest, but most dramatic, outdoor strolls. The bushy-tailed visitor

Students Demand Acknowledgement of
Robert E. Lee´s ´Racist and Dishonorable Conduct´

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Breitbart´s Big Government, by AWR Hawkins    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/18/2014 12:35:28 PM     Post Reply
A group of seven multiracial Washington and Lee University (W&L) students are demanding the school remove all Confederate flags from campus and "acknowledge" General Robert E. Lee´s "dishonorable side." According to the Roanoke Times, "seven multiracial students, calling themselves ´The Committee,´" have also demanded the school "acknowledge and apologize for participating in chattel slavery." They want recognition of "Martin Luther King Jr. Day on the undergraduate campus" and an end to "neo-Confederates" marching across campus "to the Lee Chapel on Lee-Jackson Day." The students say they will "engage in civil disobedience" if their demands are not met by September 1st. They added: "The

Living in the New York Times World
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American Thinker, by J. Paul Masko    Original Article
Posted By: magnante- 4/19/2014 7:48:36 AM     Post Reply
I began reading the entirety of the first section of the New York Times at nine years old, and continued that practice, more or less, for decades.(snip) ...the power of reverence, intrinsic to what I call the “cascade” of The Times: the near avalanche-like flow and distribution of information through electronic and print networks: through like-minded network newscasts, magazines, local newspaper s, blogs, daytime talk TV, late-night entertainment, statements at media award ceremonies, the celebrity Twitterverse, etc. The cascade rolls through Saturday Night Live, Jon Stewart, The New Yorker, the mouths of third-grade teachers, Elmo, Madonna and Susan Sarandon …through

In a Hole, Golf Considers
Digging a Wider One

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New York Times, by Bill Pennington    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/19/2014 10:48:33 AM     Post Reply
GREENSBORO, Ga. — Golf holes the size of pizzas. Soccer balls on the back nine. A mulligan on every hole. These are some of the measures — some would say gimmicks — that golf courses across the country have experimented with to stop people from quitting the game. Golf has always reveled in its standards and rich tradition. But increasingly a victim of its own image and hidebound ways, golf has lost five million players in the last decade, according to the National Golf Foundation, with 20 percent of the existing 25 million golfers apt to quit in the next few years. People under 35 have especially spurned the game, saying it takes too

Obama: ´For me, Easter is a story of hope,
a belief in a better day to come´

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Investor´s Business Daily, by Andrew Malcolm    Original Article
Posted By: SurferLad- 4/19/2014 9:16:36 AM     Post Reply
Hi, everybody. For millions of Americans, this time of year holds great meaning. Earlier this week, we hosted a Passover Seder at the White House, and joined Jewish families around the world in their re-tellings of the story of the Exodus and the victory of faith over oppression. And this Sunday, Michelle, Malia, Sasha, and I will join our fellow Christians around the world in celebrating the Resurrection of Christ, the salvation he offered the world, and the hope that comes with the Easter season. These holy days have their roots in miracles that took place long ago. And yet, they still inspire us, guide us, and strengthen us today. They remind us of our

Harry Reid calls dissident Nevada ranchers
´domestic terrorists´ following show of
force against the federal government

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Daily Mail [UK], by David Martosko    Original Article
Posted By: Attercliffe- 4/19/2014 9:29:17 AM     Post Reply
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Thursday that a family of dissident ranchers and their supporters in his home state of Nevada are ´domestic terrorists,´ citing this week´s standoff with the federal government´s Bureau of Land Management. Cliven Bundy has refused to pay grazing fees for land where his hundreds of cattle roam every day. The land is owned by the federal government, which says he owes more than $1 million. Bundy, however, insists that since his family has been using the land since the 1870s, Uncle Sam can´t collect the grazing fees. A tense standoff developed this week after

Pelosi assists in Holy Week
foot-washing ritual

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San Francisco Chronicle, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: Harlowe- 4/18/2014 11:46:54 AM     Post Reply
To "honor the dignity and work of immigrants," Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi helps Bishop Marc Andrus wash the feet of two children Thursday at Saint John the Evangelist Episcopal Church in San Francisco. Pelosi also used the occasion to talk about passing HR15 - bipartisan immigration legislation that her office says would "reduce the deficit by nearly $1 trillion, secure our borders, unite our families, protect our workers and provide an earned pathway to citizenship." The Democratic leader´s ceremony coincides with Pope Francis´ similar ceremony in Rome to mark Holy Week.

Ted Cruz, Invoking Reagan,
Angers GOP Colleagues
but Wins Fans Elsewhere

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Wall Street Journal, by Monica Langley    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/19/2014 8:09:17 AM     Post Reply
WASHINGTON--Rushing to an afternoon vote last month, Sen. Ted Cruz hopped the underground tram to the U.S. Capitol from his office across the street. The Texan planted his black ostrich cowboy boots in the middle of the small subway car without getting so much as a nod from the other senators--Republican or Democrat--amiably chatting or huddled in their seats. Mr. Cruz finds himself standing alone a lot these days. His response to the cold shoulders: "The establishment despised Ronald Reagan" before he became president, "but the people loved him." For the 43-year-old Republican, the Reagan name illuminates his political life´s

Deadbeat on the Range
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New York Times, by Timothy Eagan    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 3:52:52 PM     Post Reply
Imagine a vendor on the National Mall, selling burgers and dogs, who hasn’t paid his rent in 20 years. He refuses to recognize his landlord, the National Park Service, as a legitimate authority. Every court has ruled against him, and fines have piled up. What’s more, the effluents from his food cart are having a detrimental effect on the spring grass in the capital. Would an armed posse come to his defense, aiming their guns at the park police? Would the lawbreaker get prime airtime on Fox News, breathless updates in the Drudge Report, a sympathetic ear from Tea Party Republicans?


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