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Labor and Business Reach
Deal on Immigration Issue

New York Times, by ASHLEY PARKER and STEVEN GREENHOUSE

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Posted By:Toledo, 3/31/2013 8:05:50 AM

WASHINGTON — The nation’s top business and labor groups have reached an agreement on a guest worker program for low-skilled immigrants, a person with knowledge of the negotiations said on Saturday. The deal clears the path for broad immigration legislation to be introduced when Congress returns from its two-week recess in mid-April. Senator Charles E. Schumer, Democrat of New York, took part in negotiations to reach a deal on the issue of guest worker pay.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: montanabound, 3/31/2013 8:14:45 AM     (No. 9252187)

This is not how a republic works. Big Labor and Big Business reach a deal, and we are supposed to accept it and obey? Why do we even need a Congress?

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Reply 2 - Posted by: engrpat, 3/31/2013 8:21:04 AM     (No. 9252191)

Looks like business, labor and the democrats win but America and American´s lose.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: bamapreacher, 3/31/2013 8:45:23 AM     (No. 9252235)

Hispanics seem to be willing workers for the most part as far as I can tell, often doing jobs Americans consider beneath them. What they pump into the economy will then go to those who don´t want to work and sit on their butts and cash their government checks. When newly legal Hispanics realize that their tax dollars are subsidizing welfare rats there may be trouble between certain races.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: M2, 3/31/2013 8:52:31 AM     (No. 9252248)

The support of voters will be crucial for passing any immigration law, Mr. Rubio said in the letter, and “that support can only be earned through full and careful consideration of legislative language and an open process of amendments.”

Sorry, Marco, but Executive Orders and Agency fiat trump the Congress. Didn´t you get that memo?

Obama swore that he will get his agenda passed: "If Congress won´t act, I will." So far, he continues to do end-runs around Congress.

And when did illegal immigrants become "guest workers"? Sounds so benign, doesn´t it? Sounds like they just want some work, so who are we to deny these tempest-tossed poor people work to feed their hungry families?

We are losing here, people, unless the GOP gets control of the language, the culture, the Congress and their own testosterone.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Coy860, 3/31/2013 9:09:01 AM     (No. 9252269)

Where was John Q. Citizens chair at that table?
Remember John Q? The guy who has to PRESS 1 for English? The guy who pays the taxes to support the schools the illegals attend, flying the Mexican Flag? The schools that teach in Spanish?
The same citizen who pays high taxes so that illegals can walk into OUR hospitals and get service FREE?
How about those banks too large to fail, who offer FREE money transfers to Mexico every payday?
Now tell John Q Citizen WHAT he benefits from this back room deal between Labor and Business again.
Perhaps I am old fashioned, but how about we go back to the laws that now exist, clean things up and then start all over again. We do not have to deport all 20 million (a more honest number than the politicians will give)..just a good number of them, the rest will self deport because they have no work. Anchor babies are the responsibility of the parents, so if minors, they go with the parents.
I am sick of all the bleeding hearts for every one BUT Americans.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: disasterman, 3/31/2013 9:38:39 AM     (No. 9252324)

Close the border, deport the illegals and reform welfare so that if you´re able bodied and will not work, you will not eat. You would probably be surprised what jobs Americans will do if properly motivated.

Later today I plan to scream at the wind for all the good it will do.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: bighambone, 3/31/2013 10:02:40 AM     (No. 9252370)

That they are essentially saying is that they are going to stop illegal immigration in the future by simply allowing at least 200,000 of the would be illegal aliens in each future year to instead easily legally enter the USA, get a job and stay here indefinitely. Each year a new 200,000 would be able to come in. In a few years they would make the first 200,000 that came essentially duel-nationals, with US voting rights, and that would occur each year.

Since all those low wage workers would have their foreign families with them there is no doubt that would have to be highly subsidized by the US Government through access to all the US social welfare programs including Obamacare. Once they gain access to the federal and state social welfare programs a lot of them will no longer work, and just about all would be liberal Democrat voters, as the Republicans will never be able to out pander the liberal Democrats when it comes to handing out social welfare.

This proposal is no way a "Temporary Guest Worker Program" as it is being advertised, but is simply a way to get as many would be illegal aliens into the USA and turn them into eventual liberal Democrat voters.

The Democrats and their union allies would never be pushing such a big low wage foreign worker program, at a time of such high domestic unemployment, if they ever thought that more then a very small percentage of those people would ever vote Republican. You can bet your life on that!

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Namma, 3/31/2013 10:39:35 AM     (No. 9252419)

I dont believe for one minute there is work that "Americans wont do" I would do anything to feed my family and myself...oh and I am an American...

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Republic Can, 3/31/2013 11:04:46 AM     (No. 9252452)

First thing Marco: You must find a way to limit money transfers back to Mexico from these so called ´guest workers.´ We have lost a king´s ransom to Mexico over the past decade. Want to get public support? Issue to the Mexican government an ivoice for using our money.

Second, a bullet-proof border so we can start at the Canadian border an work south to clear all the current ´guest workers´ as we encounter them. Day by day, week by week, like clearing brush.

There is NOTHING, however, in this plan for regular Americans except more fiscal drain.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Butch59, 3/31/2013 11:16:37 AM     (No. 9252472)

Anything Schumer is involved in has to be crooked and proably illegal. I don´t trust him as far as I can throw my car. Ever since he has been in the Senate, the only things I´ve seen or heard that he is involved is how to garner more votes for dims. I´ve never known him to be involved with any program(s) that benefit the nation and it´s citizens.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: RancherJack, 3/31/2013 11:26:03 AM     (No. 9252489)

#1 for post of the month

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Reply 12 - Posted by: MDConservative, 3/31/2013 12:12:31 PM     (No. 9252557)

This may not be how a republic works, but there it is. Next will come the usual Republican blather about it´s the best one could do. Boehner will cry, JohnLindsay McGraham will assure all his good friends that it is fair and necessary to get this off the table, and Obama will need a pallet of signing pens to hand them out to all those compassionate souls who had a hand in this. Ross Perot was half right...the sucking sound was China taking the jobs, and unskilled, impoverished Latins signing on for the freebies. The real shock will be in America´s cities, where the "old" majority minority will be hit by a wave of entitled minorities who never heard of Martin Luther King. Can´t wait until the Final Four includes the Universidad de California - Los Angeles.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: rocco49, 3/31/2013 1:06:30 PM     (No. 9252622)

This is way off topic, but everybody should know and be as mad at Google as I am. I just "Googled" and you know how they always
"honor" someone on their page, usually some retarded lefty we never heard or care about? Well instead of JESUS, because today is Easter Sunday and HE has risen, instead of our Lord and savior JESUS CHRIST their "home page" has Cesar Chavez! Cesar Chavez! ON EASTER SUNDAY!!! THAT is why the descable left-wing enemdedia liars make me so angry that I want to punch them square in the teeth! Sorry...

He has risen! Praise JESUS! Happy Easter everybody!


Semper Paratus

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Reply 14 - Posted by: rocco49, 3/31/2013 1:09:37 PM     (No. 9252624)

should say "despicable left-wing enemedia...sorry, my fingers are so mad they cant type straight!

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Reply 15 - Posted by: mc squared, 3/31/2013 1:24:49 PM     (No. 9252643)

The Democrats need some way to keep the unemployment numbers high, else how will they continue to demand more deficit spending to help the economy?

Anyone hear Bami´s speech in Miami this week? Still pitching ´High Speed trains to improve business. (Talk about screen doors on submarines)

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Reply 16 - Posted by: bighambone, 3/31/2013 1:59:04 PM     (No. 9252681)

Schumer is an extreme Democrat partisan and his mission in all this is to secure as many more eventual Democrat voters as possible. If the wimpy Republicans can´t figure that out they don´t deserve to be elected to public office.

With the unemployment rates in the USA as high as they are, the government emphasis should be on training and hiring American workers to take American jobs and not to facilitate the mass importation of foreign workers to take the jobs that American workers should be doing.

The only US jobs that should be offered to real "temporary" foreign workers are agricultural jobs on a seasonal basis, just like the old Bracero farm labor Program between Mexico and the USA used to do. The difference between the old Bracero days and today is that in the old days the temporary foreign workers would go back to Mexico at the end of each growing season, while today the emphasis is not on assuring that they leave, but that they get to stay with their families, enjoy US social welfare programs, and eventually become Democrat voters.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: dr fate, 3/31/2013 5:10:06 PM     (No. 9252868)

Rubio has been consorting with a Senate "gang" which consists of the likes of Schumer,Durbin, McCain and others that most here despise on a matter that conservatives almost universally disagree with and undermining our attempts to stop illegal immigration while rewarding the invaders who have already crossed our border. Yet some still treat him with kid gloves because he seemed conservative initially. He could have taken up the flag on many issues , but he chose this one. Please don´t insult my intelligence by presenting him as a savior when his actions scream "turncoat".

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Reply 18 - Posted by: beancounter, 3/31/2013 11:37:52 PM     (No. 9253124)

Now I know how Poland felt when Hitler and Stalin reached a deal.

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