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A country increasingly
polarized by religion

Washington Post, by Michael Gerson

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Posted By:Dreadnought, 3/28/2013 11:24:08 PM

At the Normandy American Cemetery on the cliff above Omaha Beach, there are rows and rows of crosses and Stars of David. Certainly, many buried there were not religious. But the overwhelming majority of Americans in the mid-20th century identified themselves culturally as Protestants, Catholics or Jews, no matter their personal beliefs. This cultural expectation has begun fading in American life. The fastest-growing religious affiliation today is the lack of religious affiliation — the rise of the “nones,” as in “none of the above,” who now constitute nearly 20 percent of the population. For some

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: pearlyjo, 3/28/2013 11:28:26 PM     (No. 9249161)

Wait til we get Sharia law here. You ain´t seen nothin´ yet my libtard friends.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Northcross, 3/28/2013 11:31:45 PM     (No. 9249164)

If God does not exist, anything goes and nothing matters. However, if He does exist, and we are in active rebellion against Him, we are in serious trouble.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: tisHimself, 3/28/2013 11:41:58 PM     (No. 9249170)

Religion ain´t the problem. Rejection of the spiritual nature of man, and the current efforts to recreate the moral foundations of man as defined in some self referential fashion--- morality is whatever we say it is, that´s the problem.
The former shares the legacy of the founding Fathers, MLK, Ghandi, Mother Theresa, Dorothy Day; the latter, content to stay at home on Sunday with NPR and the New York times as their moral guideposts, they can claim as their legacy Marx, Lenin, Hitler, Mao, Castro and academica over the past fifty years.
Pretty late in the game for people to wake up and decide which side they are on.
People of faith aren´t the enemy, just the punchline.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: columba, 3/29/2013 12:17:12 AM     (No. 9249194)

It was the Man himself (Jesus Christ) who pointed out that His message ALWAYS caused hearers to have to make a decision.
Many in the United States have made a decision to ignore His message.They experience guilt or doubt when they see or even hear of men and women who have accepted His message and become His followers.
Simple.
He told the truth.
We get to decide.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: jl80863, 3/29/2013 12:43:50 AM     (No. 9249208)

I grew up during WWII. I have no idea where Gerson got the idea that may buried at the Omaha military cemetery were not religious and states it as a certainty. From what I know and experienced during those times I would say he doesn´t know what he is talking about.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: oh-heck, 3/29/2013 1:02:05 AM     (No. 9249214)

A Country Increasingly Polarized by Those Who Hate Religion

There I fixed the title. You can read the action list of the Communist Party to accomplish revolution in this country. It was read into the Congressional record. Point is that those who hate this country and individual freedom recognized that they needed to attack religion to take our freedom.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: mrsbash, 3/29/2013 2:12:58 AM     (No. 9249238)

There are plenty of people who do not believe that the bible is literally true but who have a moral code. Belief in a religion helps some members of those religions to adhere to morality, but there are plenty of people who go to church and treat their fellow man poorly. Some of the most liberal (and pro choice!) people I know are heavily involved in Protestant or Catholic thought and communal worship. They are religious, and liberal, and have zero problem reconciling the two.

Most of my friends would call themselves Christian, and most of them are very active in their churches, and they are about split down the middle when it comes to politics--either very liberal or very conservative.

I can´t believe in religion. I tried. But I do not think that having a religious affiliation is required to have morals and ethics that most religions would recognize as very similar to their own.

Recently when being admitted to a hospital I was asked to declare a religious affiliation. I said, "none." The registering nurse asked me, "You mean, nondenominational?" It was as if she had never heard of someone who did not believe in god.

And yet, I am pro-life, pro-gun, low-tax, pro-homeschooling, small-government, etc....I think it makes little sense to assume that being religious and being conservative have to link up.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Spidey, 3/29/2013 3:57:01 AM     (No. 9249258)

We all know the littany of problems facing this country but getting to 20% among a bunch of athiests and agnostics,really show a country in deep trouble moving forward.To me the main reason for the surge in these type people is they simply don´t want to beheld personally accountable for any misdeeds. When the threat of God´s retribution is taken out of the mix,you only have the laws of man to worry about.

The left and some elements of libertarianism starts taking over,you wind up with a 110 million people with STD´s in the country. How many of these people are reaming the taxpayers for treatment,that´s the problem I have with an anything goes country,the taxpayers always get stuck with the bill.

Call me cold hearted but I don´t have one ounce of sympathy towards someone with a untreatable case of gonorrhea or syphilis,not to mention AIDS.Besides how can this happen when schools have been brainwashing kids on condoms for years now,not to mention handing them out for free.

Religion itself has nothing to do with the divide but an increasingly secular attitude being pushed by the school system. How can a kid get expelled for school for refusing to stomp on a piece of paper with Jesus´s name on it?.

The left demands right wingers keep their nose out of their bedrooms but the left can stick it´s nose in other people business at the drop of a hat.The left doesn´t care about drug,alcohol or domestic abuse but will go to the mat over a smoker who causes a lot less damage to everyday life than these other addictions.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: mrsbash, 3/29/2013 5:54:02 AM     (No. 9249272)

I think religious conservatives would have an easier time being heard by nonreligious people if they would say,"If I believed God does not exist, I would think that anything goes and nothing matters," or, "If I did not believe God was going to hold me accountable for my misdeeds, I would feel comfortable committing them. When the threat of God´s retribution is taken out of the mix, I do not have reason to behave morally."

Although I have often heard Christians say that atheists and agnostics do not believe in God because they want freedom to sin, I have never met an atheist or agnostic who said, "I believe God exists, but I choose to act as if He doesn´t, because I have things I want to do that He would punish me for doing." As an atheist, that would make no sense at all.

The flip side of that sort of honesty from Christians, though, is that a lot of agnostics and atheists would then become a bit uncomfortable around you, as someone who is only controlling their destructive impulses because they fear consequences.

Atheists and agnostics do not believe in God because they genuinely do not believe God exists, or they believe that it is not possible to know that God exists. They think it is a story, like Zeus, Mithra or the Angel Moroni. Some think it is a valuable story, and some think it harmful, but the core of atheism and agnosticism is not a desire to get around the rules.



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Reply 10 - Posted by: lostinmassachusetts, 3/29/2013 8:02:11 AM     (No. 9249438)

The author is right. Some Americans have lost their reverence for God. But there may be some among the "nones" who are heeding the Lord´s call to "Come out of her, my people" and have abandoned the apostate "churches", which had long since abandoned Him.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: kahunavol, 3/29/2013 8:22:41 AM     (No. 9249474)

I don´t keep moral and ethical law for fear of God´s retribution, that is an utter misunderstanding of Christianity.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: ramona, 3/29/2013 8:45:16 AM     (No. 9249524)

1 I´m still waiting for the name of that renowned atheist organization/movement that is dedicated to helping the helpless, the poor, the sick, the illiterate.

2. Of course atheists, agnostics and others can live a moral life without belief in God by simply following the tenets of religious teachings. But the basis of their behavior remains the same.

3. Christianity is not a religion (though there are many religious organizations/sects/denominations based on it); rather it is a relationship with the living God, who sent his Son, Jesus Christ to show us how to live and to be reconciled with God.

In loving memory of our well-loved poster and brother in Christ, whose dramatic conversion from a life without God to one of devoted service to HIm and to the rest of us is celebrated over at the Connection.
Ramona (the Pest)



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Reply 13 - Posted by: plumnellie, 3/29/2013 9:11:24 AM     (No. 9249583)

Thanks Ramona. Always look for your posts. You have been posting for years..then a gap. Was glad when you returned.
We are having our first performance of our Amazing Grace Easter program tonite. In our small town of 25K...surrounding area under 50K we will have over 5k watching for three nights. Our church is large for our area with 1500 or so members. The 1000 in Sunday School gives the better picture of our enthusiasm for worshiping the Lord. The program is true to the Bible in every way with the ´blood´ not being spared when Christ is crucified. 250 of us are in the drama, choir and orchestra. It is a moving program for participants and audience alike. God is alive and well and living in the hearts of His children. Nothing escapes His notice. He is not surprised but is sadden that so many reject His gift of salvation.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Objectivity, 3/29/2013 9:50:25 AM     (No. 9249647)

Once again, Washington Post taking itself seriously. There is a reason Warren Buffett took an equity position in the Post ... and it was not for financial ´investment´ reasons in my estimation; it was all about ´influence´ and ´narrative-shaping´.

Michael Gerson and Sally Quinn ... more ´accurate´ portrayals of what they wish to diminish && belittle. This is so obvious ....



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