Reince Priebus, chairman of the Republican National Committee, issued some words of advice for fellow GOPers: Get in the 21st century with same-sex-marriage issues. “We do have a platform, and we adhere to that platform,” Mr. Priebus said in a USA Today video. “But it doesn’t mean that we divide and subtract people from our party” who favor gay marriage. “I don’t believe we need to act like Old Testament heretics,” he said in the USA Today video. Rather, Republicans “have to strike a balance between principle and grace and respect.”
Comments: God went Old Testament on Sodom and Gomorrah. In Truth it is the Perverse Sexually Deviant Sodomites who are the Heretics as it is they who have willingly embraced, practiced and preach the Doctrine of the Prince of Lies.
This guy needs to go and the best way for that to happen is boycotting donations to the RNC.
the explosion in gays the past 10 years shows it´s a subculture thing and not people being born in the wrong obdy. I don´t see anyone pushing gays rights in muslim counties so why should we be victimized by it?
Reince may have a point, but the callousness in which he states it makes it seem like just another attack on the religious community. I have already divorced myself from the pathetic party. His statement as the pathetic party leader will convince many others to do the same.
Either there is a God or their is not. Either we will answer to Him or we won´t. If we must answer to him, we best know what His rules, values and standards are. If not... it´s every man for himself... which is where we are today.
Bring up your religious beliefs and you are automatically ignored and called a bigot. The world is going to hell in a handbasket and the only hope man has is being shunned.
Priebus is wrong. The prohibition against homosexuality is found in the New Testament (Romans, 1 Cor., etc.) as well as in the old and is just as clear in both places: God forbids homosexual behavior. So Priebus et al cannot use the argument that this is just an OT thing, to be ignored.
Those who refuse to see that God does indeed prohibit homosexual behavior are deliberately blind. God´s prohibition against such behavior is not ambiguous.
While the Bible strictly forbids homosexuality, it also equally forbids adultery, murder and other sins, all of which are not distinguished one from another in God´s eyes. In other words, homosexuality is no different a sin, better or worse, than adultery, murder, taking the Lord´s name in vain or worshiping other gods. All sin should be avoided by those to whom God´s word matters. For those people who do not consider Scripture (God´s Law) the sole source of truth for Christian (and Jewish) life and practice, the point becomes moot and anything goes.
That said, we sinful human beings cannot judge another´s private behavior although we can hold strong opinions about it. Judgment is God´s alone.
The misconception (cough) is that Christians hate or fear homosexuals. We do not. They are our brothers and sisters in sin, no different from us -- all products of the fall of mankind. But we don´t condone their sins just as we don´t condone adultery or murder, drunkenness, bearing false witness or idolatry. They´re all sins and we can choose to avoid them.
Reply 10 - Posted by:
Fiesta del sol, 3/28/2013 7:27:01 AM (No. 9247736)
It´s glaringly obvious that the GOP bigs in DC care more about their constituency in the media than the evangelical and Catholic voters. They are embarrassed by us, and want us gone. And trust me, Reince, we get the message. These geniuses think they´ll make up the votes they will lose with illegals and independents?
Reply 11 - Posted by:
god of irony, 3/28/2013 7:28:19 AM (No. 9247737)
Maybe Priebus can use all of the donations to buy gold to melt down so he build a golden statue so he can idolize homosexuality.
Reply 12 - Posted by:
John c, 3/28/2013 7:35:59 AM (No. 9247748)
I hung up on a pro murder republican sales pitch last night (MA).
According to the Census of 2010, there has been no explosion in gays, they are still present in the low single digits. The explosion has been in the demands they have made that they be different but equal. Ask a Canadian what it is like dealing with Quebec. When the Provinces work out a policy to which they can all agree, then there needs to be variant for Quebec to allow them to be unique.
My humble proposal is that gay couples be allowed to be married by the states without a test of equipment if they simply declare which is the man and which the woman. If you want to fit a square peg in a round hole, you must be prepared to do some whittling on the peg.
Well said, Poster #9. May I add my 2 cents, I know that the New Testament says that it is a sin against the body for a man to lie with another man, and a woman with another woman, however, the Old Testament refers to "stoning", which I think Priebus was referring to. Of course, when Jesus came he transformed/softened some of these strict Jewish laws made by the Jewish church leaders. One of the key arguments is that one can not help being gay, however, there is not one iota of scientific proof that one is born gay, not one. Would our Lord condemn something that one can not help? No, of course not. This practice is a sin like any other, but it does not need the courts to say it´s okay. Christians do not hate gays, it is that their sin is so apparent, while our sins are mostly hidden, and we get to ask for forgiveness for them. However, this subject is being pushed through our culture like a stream roller and will divide people. Christians and people worth their salt should not bend their beliefs even with the coming assaults. Don´t forget, Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed because of all the homosexuals running the town and attacking even the angels that were visiting Lot and his family. Some things are worth fighting for, and our country and its traditions are worth it.
He is right, it isn´t our place to judge. You may not like it, but just talk to people 40 and under - regardless of how fiscally conservative they are, I´ll bet most will tell you they couldn´t care less about gays and gay marriage.
Reince Priebus. I didn´t think there was a face that could possibly match the name. Then I saw him on TV. He looks just like that.
´´We do have a platform, and we adhere to that platform, but ... ´´ No, you don´t want to adhere to that platform. That´s some kind of balancing act you´re trying.
´´ ... have to strike a balance between principle and grace and respect ...´´ Please give the chapter and verse for that concept. The principle is the principle, no doubt about that. It´s found in both Old Testament and New Testament. Grace is freely given on the condition of repentance - you know, turning from ´´your wicked ways.´´ Respect is never given to sin. Your attitude that we all have our own ways and we will respect them all is dead wrong. On one hand you say you have the platform and you adhere to it, but on the other hand you indicate that you ´´respect´´ the opposite of it. Why have the principle if you believe the other is just as respectable?
You are standing on shifting sand, Mr. Priebus. America was founded on a rock solid foundation. I would suggest you move to higher ground.
Does Reince not understand that he just threw out the Jewish vote with that stupid statement? Does he not understand that the Ten Commandments are found in the OT, the very foundation of Judaism? Evangelical Christians will also be turned off, but I get the impression that the RINOs don´t care.
Every day I pray that America will be blessed with a Moses. The sad thing, though, is that the people who follow our Moses will probably do the same stupid thing the Israelites did when Moses was out of sight receiving the Ten Commandments - they will return to their old ways and worship their familiar idols again. Reince is unfortunately setting that example.
Never thought I´d see the day when a tiny group of people could set up a squealing louder than the blacks have squealed for the past 20 years or so but the homesexuals have managed it. And just like the blacks, once the Supreme Court says "okay, okay, you´re equal", the squealing will just get louder.
What the blacks don´t realize, and the homosexuals won´t either, is that in the final analysis, the racisims and divisions are enhanced, not diminished.
Court based "equality" has mostly served to reduce the quality of life and safety of minorities, destroyed public education, and fomented an increase in racism. The same will occur with the homosexuals.
You cannot force people to think, act, and feel a certain way. The opposite of your intentions is always the result.
This is all democrat driven, by the way. Done to enhance the power of the ALL WHITE masters who run the democrat party and the mainstream media who you cannot separate from the democrats.
No , Preibus is asking us to actually go OT, i.e. reject God like Israel did time and again. He´s asking us to build that golden calf of political success over doing what is right.
When Preibus came out with his mea culpa for the RNC something finally "clicked" with me. They have consciously decided to throw their base overboard. They have calculated that they have more to gain in the mushy middle and low info voters than they have to lose in the hard core base. So they have decided to go pro amnesty on immigration and pro gay marriage. The base will have no place to go anyway, they figure.
So, I´m sorry to say, the only alternative will be a third party that will take two or three election cycles to gain traction ( if it ever does). We may end up the Lot family trying to survive in Gomorrah. But there is simply a line in the sand I will not cross with the Republican Party. I´m done!
OT? Here´s the New Testament on the subject, Romans, Ch. 1, Reince - BTW - this list of bad stuff sounds like the dem party platform: 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
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Bad Dog, 3/28/2013 8:52:41 AM (No. 9247871)
Re third party - I also never believed in going that route, as it automatically divides ´´Republicans´´ (if that name has any meaning any more), and throws future elections back to the progressive left.
Well, as another poster said it on another thread, the Democrats are going to cheat anyway. I think now it is finally time to stand up on our principles, and proceed.
I also hung up on a RNC salesman a few days ago (vis-a-vis #12). I tried explaining why I had not contributed in a long time, but he had his talking point script and stuck with it. He tried to ´agree´ but continued his script. I finally had enough and said good-bye. I actually hope they call again - I have more to say now.
We may find ourselves wandering the conservative wilderness for the modern equivalent of 40 years, but I believe we will one day find our Promised Land, again. This we have to believe.....
"Have you not read that from the beginning the Creator ´made them male and female´ and said, ´For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh´? ~Jesus, The Gospel of Matthew 19:4-5
When someone tells a Christian that it is wrong to judge, they have judged that person as being wrong for judging. Those who say we shouldn´t judge but just have strong opinions are playing with words and fooling themselves. That strong opinion is a judgment. And we should make it.
Jesus told us to judge. In the book of John, He said, ´´ ... judge righteous judgment.´´ He was actually commanding us to judge - the right way.
I used to think he was just annoying and ineffective, but I really resent this little toad and his throwing religion into this discussion and basically throwing those with sincere religious convictions under the (Prie) bus. It was not necessary; in fact, it is incendiary and divisive. But what does that matter when he can feel so sophisticated and large-minded, while serving his Rovian masters.
Time for Riece´s Pieces to go - What has he done to "lead" the GOP? I can´t recall one single thing unless it was all behind the scenes, i.e. Is he the one who told Romney to be a compassionate conservative, a proverbial gentleman´s gentleman and NOT bring up Bengazi at the last debate? That was impressive.
I must not comprehend what I read. I didn´t hear him come out in favor of gay marriage, I heard him talk about style. Couple of things for you to consider, most people are not evangelical Christians who believe in a literal interpretation of the bible. A political party is not your church, it can´t talk about how wonderful it will be when all gays burn in hell. The reason style is important there are people who don´t believe in gay marriage, but don´t want to see them bashed.
You know, I´ve been saying for the last several months that voter fraud must have been the reason for Obama´s re-election. I was wrong, it´s the fraud within the Republican party that killed us. It seems the new Republicans are for one thing and one thing only: winning elections (at any cost).
Jesus often quoted the Old Testament. He said, "Have ye not read that He that created mankind in the beginning made them Male and female?" Google to get the exact Scripture reference. But too many people like Preibus don´t know what they are talking about.
Re: #35, of course they are, and many here support that course - as in we need to hold our nose and vote for the lesser of two evils, and all the variations thereof. Basically, we must compromise our principles in order to save our principles, the same stance as Prince. Mr. Peince, speaking for the GOP, has clearly stated here that the GOP intends to take a hard left which looks very much like dem lite. I don´t mean just on homosexual marriage rather a compromise on GOP principles.
There can be no meaning to giving somebody the right to something that isn´t real. Take it up with God and nature, not the courts. Human jurisprudence has neither the jurisdiction nor the authority to make this decision.
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