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O’Reilly And Megyn Kelly Agree: Gays
Have ‘More Compelling’ Argument,
Opponents Just ‘Thump The Bible’

Mediaite, by Andrew Kirell

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Posted By:KarenJ1, 3/27/2013 10:50:58 AM

During last night’s O’Reilly Factor, host Bill O’Reilly and his guest Megyn Kelly both agreed: same-sex marriage advocates have the “more compelling” argument, whereas their opponents have not done much besides “thump the Bible.” The revelation may come as a shock to many, as O’Reilly had previously made news for suggesting same-sex marriage would eventually lead to men wanting to marry ducks and other animals. But as he told Kelly last night, he is actually quite apathetic on the issue. “I don’t feel that strongly about it one way or

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How stunning. O´Reilly, who is allegedly a devout Catholic, shocked me with his comments. You just never know what he is going to say.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Johnny Angle, 3/27/2013 11:02:06 AM     (No. 9246374)

Who cares what these morons say. You shouldn´t look to any of them for enlightenment.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Cavallodifiero, 3/27/2013 11:02:50 AM     (No. 9246377)

What is a compelling argument for corrupting a standard of society that is thousands of years old and offered as a sacrament in the Church? When Kelly and O´Reilly are willing to look at it from the degenerate point of view, you know we are truly stooping to the lowest levels of society.

I hope they don´t see society deteriorate to the level of marrying into incest, multiple partners, bestiality, and all the other degenerate practices. While at the expense of those who have participated in what has been one of the pillars of a civilized society.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: RightShoe, 3/27/2013 11:04:21 AM     (No. 9246382)

This is the kind of bullying we can expect from those who seek to destroy marriage.

Brace yourself.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: frodo, 3/27/2013 11:14:11 AM     (No. 9246406)

Let me pose an argument against gay marriage. I haven´t seen this anywhere else, but I think it is at least moderately compelling and it is from a conservative/libertarian point of view:

The only business that government has for being involved in anyway, shape or form is for the sake of future generations.

Except for one study, the studies of gay adoption have been asking the parents questions and not too surprisingly based on that they have been rather supportive of gay adoption. This is not a slam at their methodologies. Until recently the children involved have been too young to give mature, though-out responses and we all know how teenagers would respond to the question, how good are your parents?

Now we have one study, based on responses from grown children of gay couples. It was far less flattering. That could be due to a faulty methodology, but perhaps not. More study is needed before the government "blesses" these unions. It is for the sake of the children, ya know.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: minuteman, 3/27/2013 11:14:38 AM     (No. 9246407)

Wait until it is the law of the land. Then Bible believers can not only be mocked but legally persecuted.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: bubby, 3/27/2013 11:16:55 AM     (No. 9246414)

What does "thump the Bible" mean? Is it now derogatory to use the Bible to support your views of morality? As a Christian I believe that the Bible is the inspired Word of God. So a secular argument is now more compelling than the Word of God? Good grief we sinking faster than I ever thought. We are "Sloughing Towards Gomorrah" at high speed.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: tomishere, 3/27/2013 11:17:21 AM     (No. 9246415)

#4 I think on a human level gay adoption could be more destructive than gay marriage.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: jackson, 3/27/2013 11:18:30 AM     (No. 9246418)

O´Reilly, low-IQ blowhard with the spine of a jellyfish and a self-regard beyond comprehesion. Kelly, a shrew with handles whose excessive cosmetics cover a shrill enthusiasm for rudeness. Neither can be called "compelling."

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Reply 9 - Posted by: hoofanmom, 3/27/2013 11:19:52 AM     (No. 9246420)

So if we asked Bill if bisexuals have a compelling argument for marrying two or more people, would he say yes? A man and woman uniting and producing a child is the basic building block of society. It´s an anatomical, biological, sociological, and historical reality and I find it a compelling argument. If this arrangement is redefined, then marriage becomes meaningless.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: noproblems, 3/27/2013 11:20:53 AM     (No. 9246423)

Faux news is not for serious people

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Keekng, 3/27/2013 11:21:27 AM     (No. 9246425)

Back in the early times (dark ages), 40-50 years ago, you couldn´t pry a womans legs apart unless she had a trip to the altar and the magic ring on her finger. All that has changed with girls getting pregnant or on birth control in junior high school. With all the changes why get married at all.../s

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Reply 12 - Posted by: pete moss, 3/27/2013 11:24:44 AM     (No. 9246431)

O´Reilly is a bag of hot air. Hannity, and to some extent Greta, are the only commentators on Fox that I continue to watch. Megyn and Shepard Smith are liberals. I can no longer stand either one of them.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Happy Trails, 3/27/2013 11:32:30 AM     (No. 9246448)

There´s milk, and chocolate milk. There´s marriage, and queer marriage.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Chuzzles, 3/27/2013 11:37:52 AM     (No. 9246456)

Can´t wait for the day when the Bible thumps idiots like these two. And Christians know that it is quickly coming.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: gobushcheneygo, 3/27/2013 12:01:54 PM     (No. 9246500)

Bill, I don´t ´thump the Bible´. I read the Bible. I believe the Bible is the inherent Word of God. God´s laws and commandments take precedent over any mere human´s wants and desires. God gave us these laws and commandments because He loves us and wants to protect us. You may choose to mock the gift of His Word (and those who put their faith in it) but you do so at your own eternal peril.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: youngtexan, 3/27/2013 12:04:55 PM     (No. 9246505)

I don´t miss watching FNC. This is one of the reasons why I don´t watch it.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: bmw50, 3/27/2013 12:05:02 PM     (No. 9246506)

Bill touts himself as an investigative reporter. SO INVESTIGATE! No, he wants someone to hand him their work and let him make a decision?

As far as Christianity goes, the man is clueless... and he´s going to write a book about killing Jesus????

I studied and found compelling reasons to reject gay marriage; but you have to look.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: msjena, 3/27/2013 12:12:19 PM     (No. 9246521)

BOR is such a blowhard. He throws out a bunch of opinions and predictions and when one of them sticks, he claims he´s a genius. He is good at selling his books, I´ll give him that.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: joew9, 3/27/2013 12:15:44 PM     (No. 9246523)

Regarding O´Reilly and Kelly´s statement.
That´s because the media only interviews people who make a religion based argument against gay marriage. Which is the easiest for the media counter with their sound bites. Most of the people I associated with can make the argument without using any religion or tradition argument. But they never get interviewed. George Will came closest to explaining it in "What comes after I do". He still didn´t quite nail it but it´s a start.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Hazymac, 3/27/2013 12:25:55 PM     (No. 9246541)

First of all, there is one person in my extended family who is an out of the closet homosexual; we all love this person dearly, and would not like to see him persecuted on account of his sexuality. The same goes for most of our fellow LDotters who have outed themselves, and with whom I agree on practically every issue except this one. They´re still by compatriots and my friends, and always will be.

Homosexuality ought to be legally tolerated--that´s the end point of my libertarianism--but not celebrated or placed on a point-for-point parallel status to the traditional marriage of one man and one woman.

Although laws that used to prosecute homosexual behavior were wrong and should have been repealed (as they have been in the United States), attempts to "norm" homosexuality and place it in the same legal category as heterosexual marriage morally degrades our society. And, if one believes Scripture, moves the nation in the direction of chaos and divine judgment. Domestic partnerships with concomitant financial rights are proper, but calling such an arrangement a marriage is, it seems to me, not only wrong but willfully provocative. "Gay marriage" is a contradiction in terms.

No matter what the blunderbuss O´Reilly, Megyn Kelly, or Barney Frank or Elton John, for that matter, profess to believe, homosexuality just isn´t survival behavior, is medically dangerous, and ought not to be encouraged or regarded legally as equal to traditional heterosexual marriage, on which the future of the nation depends. On Judgment Day being what immoral folks derisively call "Bible thumpers" might not such a bad thing.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Darling, 3/27/2013 12:28:28 PM     (No. 9246547)

Funny how my first amendment religious right to not rent an apartment to gay or unmarried couples is not respected. And liberals say that only conservatives base their principles upon feelings.

You can bet that even though Christian principles are mocked, if this gay marriage issue turns into the law of the land, it will be no time until Muslims and other faiths/tribes argue that they should be allowed to have multiple wives because of their religion. Gay marriage is not an inherently constitutional issue, but a marriage based upon one´s religion could be. Dominoes falling, slippery slope, call it what you want.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Wetlandz, 3/27/2013 12:32:38 PM     (No. 9246555)

What disturbs me is that Kelly and Oreilly, our guys, can´t make the case against gay marriage. So all we can do is look back ten years after gay marriage is legalized by scotus and throw our I told you so´s around?

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Reply 23 - Posted by: JAN, 3/27/2013 12:33:33 PM     (No. 9246558)

Two divorced media hacks deciding about the relevancy of traditional marriage.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Me?Opinionated?Nah!, 3/27/2013 12:35:03 PM     (No. 9246566)

Hey O’Reilly! About you looking out for me…

Thanks, but no thanks!



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Reply 25 - Posted by: Felixcat, 3/27/2013 12:35:56 PM     (No. 9246568)

B´OR and Megyn - more compelling reasons not to watch their shows.

I relish the day when Bill and Megyn "thump the Holy Koran." Oh wait - that´ll get your throat slit.



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Reply 26 - Posted by: mitzi, 3/27/2013 12:39:10 PM     (No. 9246578)

That´s just so crude!

Just confirms my decision to avoid FNC.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: octrojan, 3/27/2013 12:45:30 PM     (No. 9246591)

Not sure what was inaccurate about what was said on FNC. Even many posters here based their position on the Bible. That´s well and good, but not persuasive if you´re trying to win the political argument. "Because the Bible tells me so" isn´t a great legal argument.

There are lots of arguments against gay marriage--some of which were posted here--Bill and Megyn are correct in saying that you don´t hear them enough.

Of course, whether gay marriage is good or bad shouldn´t be the issue. The issue is supposed to be what the Constitution says about it, but we´re long since past the time when Supremes actually based their views on the Constitution.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: Keekng, 3/27/2013 12:54:55 PM     (No. 9246610)

As I recall, Bill O´Reilly claims to be a Roman Catholic.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: Bumblebee, 3/27/2013 12:59:23 PM     (No. 9246619)

Bill and Megan have simply checked the way the wind is blowing from FOX superiors and the Republican establishment who think the way to win is to move left. So, keeping in line, what else could they say?

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Reply 30 - Posted by: kanphil, 3/27/2013 1:01:05 PM     (No. 9246626)

The whining of perverts makes a more compelling case than God´s word? Tells me all I need to know about BOR and MK.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: mickturn, 3/27/2013 1:04:52 PM     (No. 9246636)

How about we THUMP your heads together?

Some people are just a waste of air.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: absalom, 3/27/2013 1:06:08 PM     (No. 9246640)

Marriage evolved from a societal/cultural need to socialize children and self regulate sexual activity. It predates by eons the religious trappings of the institution. It is suggested here that it is a mistake, perhaps a very worthy one, but a mistake nevertheless to use religion to argue against homosexual unions. The counter-culture is viscerally hostile to religion and the majority remain apathetic. Further it gives media hustlers like these two jackasses an opportunity to pontificate and preen for ratings.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Crasher, 3/27/2013 1:12:13 PM     (No. 9246651)

O´Reilly is an over educated blowhard who has a problem knowing which side he is on.

ABC radio news keeps saying today that the reason for gay marriage being needed is that the surviver in a civil union gets no tax break for the property inherited after the death of a partner.

An easy cure for that problem is to eliminate inheritance taxes for everyone but that means liberals lose another point of control in our lives.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: trappedinmn, 3/27/2013 1:19:30 PM     (No. 9246664)

It all comes down to what your definition of the word "is" is (thanks bj clinton). The definition of what marriage "is" can be changed to whatever you want. Decent thinking people actually know what the definition is. You can call the dog´s tail a leg, but the dog still only has 4 legs.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: Aubreyesque, 3/27/2013 2:38:48 PM     (No. 9246785)

This isnt even about MARRIAGE.

This is about finding a way to thwart religious freedom, because once it is decided that the government WILL back up gay marriages, in spite of people´s voice against it, NOTHING will be held back to put the legal clamp on any entity that not only supports it but caters to it. Remember the cases where a place was sued because they wouldnt allow a gay wedding? Where a photographer was sued because they turned down a gay client? That was just the beginning. Now think of all the churches out there who say they will not support a gay wedding. Not only will they have social pressure, but a SC ruling against them!

What a way to kill religious freedom!

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Reply 36 - Posted by: redwhite&blue2, 3/27/2013 4:20:36 PM     (No. 9246934)

Mediaite? Andrew Kirell? Huh? Who the hell gives a crap what you choose to "report"? Hey, Andy, try going over to Walter Reed and get the scoop from the survivors on what really happened in Benghazi Libya!!!

Oh, sorry, that doesnt "fit your agenda"...

As far as O´Reilly and Kelly, two real creeps, I gave up on both of them long ago, dont watch anyone on Fox except Cavuto....dont care what that dumb blonde or loofa boy think about ANYTHING!! Go have another whiskey shot with Beckel and shut up! A man putting his____into another mans ____ and a woman lying down with another woman are NOT things to publicize or legalize! They are abominations, deviance, sins in the eyes of the Lord, and the human race would disappear from this planet if they were the majority! Idiots! Is that what those GODLESS liberals real goal is?

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Reply 37 - Posted by: fritzilou, 3/27/2013 4:23:54 PM     (No. 9246938)

Regressive progressives is what they are.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: jacksin5, 3/27/2013 5:49:43 PM     (No. 9247082)

Let´s talk about the unintended consequences of such legislation.
Indicted criminals could marry to avoid testifying against each other.
A person could marry a distant relative to avoid estate taxes, cut someone out of an inheritance, or pass on a pension.
I´m sure there are many more examples, but these come to mind.


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Reply 39 - Posted by: rocco49, 3/27/2013 7:59:29 PM     (No. 9247268)

I stopped watching Lurch O´Wrongly. Wanna know why? Because he claims he is "looking out for the folks"...and then he does a complete ballerina spin 180 right before your tired eyes there on Fox News, Gay Marriage, Obama, whatever he spins off on and completely goes against what most of us here think and feel...so by bye Bozo Bill, I dont care how many vewers you claim nor how much income you claim to garner from all of your posturing drivel..I aint buying it no more! See ya! As for Kelly, the lawyer, the straight-faced "know-it-all"...Up yours too! What a waste of air for two whole hours! Id like to "thump" my bible on both of your PIN heads!

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Reply 40 - Posted by: NYbob, 3/27/2013 8:09:44 PM     (No. 9247274)

Bill OReilly is still coming out of a very public failure as a husband and father. I have no idea what Megyn Kelly´s experience has been with her parents or if she has children, but aside from the obvious MONEY grab involved with same sex ´marriage,´ the entire issue is the importance of role models of man and women to the children, which is the whole point of a real, traditional, marriage. Two women simply can´t model or teach any child about men, fathers and husbands. They simply CAN´T do it Megyn. Two homosexual men can not convey what a mother is to anyone, Bill. See, media idiots, the Bible wasn´t mention once. Just real life instead of the PC fantasy activist freaks insist is reality.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: steelbreeze, 3/29/2013 8:42:09 AM     (No. 9249518)

Is this argument more valid before or after we consider the filthy acts committed by men especially in these so called relationships.?

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Reply 42 - Posted by: Southern Oracle, 3/29/2013 10:03:12 AM     (No. 9249678)

SO ready for the One America News Network to launch.

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In a question and answer session at Stanford Center at Peking University in Beijing, China, First Lady Michelle Obama said that sometimes one needs to do things she´s uncomfortable with. She made the comments in response to a question about studying abroad. (Snip) The first lady responded, "Excellent. And one thing that you pointed out that I think it’s important to consider is not letting fear be your guide. Andthat’s oftentimes what holds many young people back from doing fabulous things. Let’s take my husband, for example. He hasdragged me kicking and screaming into things that I wanted parts of. (Laughter.) And a lot of it was

The Evil of the Outdoor Cat
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New York Times, by Richard Conniff    Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly- 3/23/2014 5:25:45 AM     Post Reply
ONCE upon a time I had a cat named Lucky, and the name fit. She turned up on our doorstep as a stray and stayed with us for 10 years, until her rather gruesome demise. (More about that later.) I liked her because she was a free spirit, and a survivor, going out for two, three, even five days, in all seasons. She’d show up when it suited her, waiting in the dark before dawn till I came downstairs and turned on my desk lamp. Then she’d make her presence known by rising up on her hind legs and gently

Stay cool, Sasha! First daughter cuts a
stylish figure in shades as the Obamas
visit Great Wall of China and country
becomes fascinated with Michelle´s ´elegance´

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Daily Mail [UK], by Associated Press & Daily Mail Reporter    Original Article
Posted By: Attercliffe- 3/23/2014 12:46:59 PM     Post Reply
First daughter Sasha Obama cut a stylish figure in jeans and shades as the Obama girls visited the Great Wall of China today. Michelle Obama, Malia, 15, and Sasha, 12, were left alone to explore the Mutianyu section of the historical landmark in the northern Beijing suburbs though Chinese police officers looked on protectively. The three walked a stretch of the wall that looks out to a massive rock inscription on a hillside that reads in Chinese: ´Loyal to Chairman Mao.´ The country has been fascinated by Mrs Obama´s ´elegance´ during the weeklong visit to the country to promote educational

University of California-Santa
Barbara feminist professor charged
in confrontation with pro-life teen

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Fox News, by Staff*    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 3/22/2014 9:43:26 PM     Post Reply
A feminist studies professor at a California state university is facing criminal charges after a videotaped run-in with a teenage pro-life demonstrator in which she snatched an anti-abortion sign and appeared to get physical with the girl. University of California at Santa Barbara Associate Professor Mireille Miller-Young was charged with one misdemeanor count each of theft, battery and vandalism in the March 4 incident, Santa Barbara County District Attorney Joyce Dudley announced Friday. The charges came days after 16-year-old Thrin Short and her parents met with prosecutors. Thrin told authorities what she told FoxNews.com earlier this month: She, her older

Press banned as first
lady touts free speech

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Boston Herald, by Bob McGovern    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 3/23/2014 4:48:25 AM     Post Reply
First lady Michelle Obama told students that freedom of speech should be a universal right during her extravagant, no-press-allowed tour of China — a hypocritical move that will surely draw the ire of critics, according to an expert. “That is troublesome. That goes beyond hypocritical, and I think the American media and the international media has every right to call her and the Obama administration on that — that they permitted that to happen,” said Tom Whalen, a political history professor at Boston University. “It makes you shake your head, albeit sadly.” The first lady stopped at Peking University in Beijing yesterday

Study: Blacks with white
friends are ´less black´

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Washington Examiner, by Paul Bedard    Original Article
Posted By: Judy W.- 3/23/2014 6:23:12 AM     Post Reply
When Washington, D.C., councilman and former Mayor Marion Barry this week said that whites need to be “more open-minded” about African-American politicians, claiming “blacks are more open-minded than” whites, he was suggesting that whites can´t do what blacks do -- embrace the other race. But a new study of 212 black college students made available to Secrets found little open-mindedness: Blacks don´t like it when other blacks associate with whites, to the point of refusing help to an African-American experiencing “a run of bad luck” -- just because they have white friends. The study in the April edition of the authoritative journal

Teen arrested in ´knockout´
assault of disabled man

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WJXT-TV [Jacksonville, FL], by Scott Johnson    Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon- 3/22/2014 9:18:03 AM     Post Reply
Jacksonville, Fla. - A 16-year-old was arrested Friday, accused of attacking a disabled man pumping gas last month. Kevin Johnson is charged with abuse of a disabled adult in the Feb. 4 attack at the Hess station on Merrill Road. Michael Caraway was walking with a cane when he was struck in the face by a group a teens he believes was playing the "knockout game." Caraway told Channel 4 the pain was extreme for a long time after he was attacked in February. "I´m doing better, just taking things one day at a time," said Caraway. "My wife and

Ellmers berates constituents
for opposing amnesty ´You
don´t have any damn facts´

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Breitbart Big Government, by Tony Lee    Original Article
Posted By: Fiesta del sol- 3/23/2014 9:55:10 AM     Post Reply
In a constituent meeting gone awry that was captured on shaky, amateur video, embattled Rep. Renee Ellmers (R-NC) berated a group of local activists who oppose amnesty legislation, suggesting they were racist and saying they didn´t have “any damn facts.” “You´re telling me what people have told you? You don´t have any damn facts!” Ellmers exploded at one of the activists when he said that employers – who often claim a labor shortage to argue for amnesty – frequently don´t post job openings in that region.

First lady´s mission: Free speech for all
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The Hill (Washington DC), by Rebecca Shabad    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 3/22/2014 2:46:53 PM     Post Reply
First lady Michelle Obama told a group of Chinese students Saturday that free speech is a universal right that makes countries stronger. Nations are “stronger and more prosperous” when people’s opinions are heard," Obama said during her trip to China, which employs some of the strictest limits on the Internet. “We respect the uniqueness of other cultures and societies, but when it comes to expressing yourself freely and worshipping as you choose and having open access to information, we believe those universal rights — they are universal rights that are the birthright of every person on this planet,” she said

No Justice Department Charges
Against Ohio Woman Who Voted
Six Times for Obama

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Breitbart´s Big Government, by J. Christian Adams    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 3/23/2014 8:20:09 PM     Post Reply
Last week Al Sharpton embraced convicted vote fraudster Melowese Richardson at a “voting rights” rally in Cincinnati. The United States Department of Justice under Eric Holder has done nothing to Melowese Richardson 410 days after she admitted on camera that she committed multiple federal felonies by voting six times for President Obama’s reelection. Federal law makes it a felony to vote more than once for President. In fact, 42 U.S.C. Section 1973i(e) subjects Richardson to twenty-five years in federal prison for her six votes for Obama. The lack of DOJ action against an unrepentant federal vote fraudster combined with Richardson’s lionization by

Tapper: White House Concerned Russia Could
Invade Ukraine as Soon as This Weekend

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Mediaite, by Noah Rothman    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 3/22/2014 4:33:26 AM     Post Reply
Quoting unnamed administration officials, CNN host Jake Tapper revealed that the White House is “concerned” that Russia could invade South and East Ukraine “possibly as soon as this weekend.” He said that, in spite of Russia’s assurances that the large numbers of troops and military equipment amassed along the Ukrainian border are there merely for training exercises, the White House believes that Moscow could be planning a broader incursion into Ukraine. “There is now real apprehension that Vladimir Putin could push even further into Ukraine, perhaps as soon as this weekend,” Tapper said. He quoted anonymous administration officials who are “concerned”

GOP candidate for governor
is a registered sex offender

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Los Angeles Times, by Seema Mehta    Original Article
Posted By: LittleHoodedMonk- 3/22/2014 3:42:27 PM     Post Reply
One of four gubernatorial candidates introduced to California Republicans recently is a registered sex offender who spent more than a decade in state prison, convicted of crimes including voluntary manslaughter and assault with intent to commit rape. (Snip) Champ, a little-known political neophyte from the Fresno County community of Tollhouse, did not directly mention his criminal past during his speech but said, "In my life, I´ve been held accountable because of my stupidity. I do not want anyone else to be enslaved because of their lack of knowledge." Champ´s rap sheet is lengthy. Court records show that in 1992,


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