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New pope revives question:
What is a ´Latino´

Associated Press, by Jesse Washington

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Posted By:Fiesta del sol, 3/24/2013 3:38:29 PM

He is being hailed with pride and wonder as the "first Latino pope," a native Spanish speaker born and raised in the South American nation of Argentina. But for some Latinos in the United States, there´s a catch: Pope Francis´ parents were born in Italy. Such recent European heritage is reviving debate in the United States about what makes someone a Latino. Those questioning whether their idea of Latino identity applies to Pope Francis acknowledge that he is Latin American, and that he is a special inspiration to Spanish-speaking


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Reply 1 - Posted by: msjena, 3/24/2013 3:52:04 PM     (No. 9241714)

His mother was born in Buenos Aires.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: mitzi, 3/24/2013 3:55:18 PM     (No. 9241720)

Cortes, a 29-year-old son of Colombian immigrants who lives in Philadelphia, says some friends his age are confused about why the pope is being identified as Latino. "Others are assuming it´s a ploy to get Latino Catholics more involved," he says.

No, I think "others" are afraid that Latino Catholics might become more involved. Look what happened in Poland and Eastern Europe after JPII became Pope!

The "law of unintended consequences" just might come into play in the United States following immigration reform.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: majorch2, 3/24/2013 4:06:18 PM     (No. 9241729)

What matters is where he was born, not where his parents were born

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Reply 4 - Posted by: voxlapidis, 3/24/2013 4:23:54 PM     (No. 9241741)

Italians are the original Latinos.

Rome is in the province of Latium, the birthplace of Latin, the mother tongue from which emerged Italian,Romanian, French and Spanish.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: mabeldog, 3/24/2013 4:27:59 PM     (No. 9241746)

"In one half hour I´m talking in Spanish.
Por favor!
I am easily assimilated.
I am so easily assimilated.

It´s easy it´s ever so easy
I´m Spanish, I´m suddenly Spanish
And you must be Spanish too
Do like the natives do.
These day you have to be
In the majority."

Candide 1956

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Reply 6 - Posted by: trapper, 3/24/2013 4:28:34 PM     (No. 9241748)

FTA: "Latin America is a complex region of deep racial and class narratives. The elites tend to be whites of European ancestry; the poor are often dark-skinned descendants of indigenous or African people."

Now we are getting to it. It is all racial. The main Latino organization calls itself "La Raza," meaning "the race." The exclusionary intent is clear. It has nothing to do with what language you speak, and everything to do with what color your skin is. It is the native american version of white supremacy. It is red supremacy and just as UN-American. I tuned in to a native American religious service on NPR the other day and the hatred of white people expressed by both the words and inflection of the speaker was appalling. I´m surprised NPR aired such bile. But then, it WAS non-Christian and directed at white people so I suppose it was OK with them.

Which raises the question, is a white person who was born in Africa and emigrates to America an African-American?

I´m sick to death of all the exclusionary and divisive groupings and titles and names. Just stop it.

Instead of exploring "What is a ´Latino´" the AP would do a greater service if it did a serious story on "what is a Christian?" They may learn that all their labels and categories are meaningless.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: ClangClang, 3/24/2013 5:04:36 PM     (No. 9241781)

Latinos are Amerindians with an Hispanic last name.

The pope is White, descended from Europeans. He is not Latino.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Tom kilbride, 3/24/2013 6:01:45 PM     (No. 9241834)

As a guy who worked with my brother once asked, "Why am I called a Latino? The last time I looked, Spain was part of Europe."

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Balogreene, 3/24/2013 6:12:32 PM     (No. 9241848)

I know people born in Mexico with French or Irish surnames, because an ancestor was part of an invading army. I know Anglos who married Spaniards who have Hispanic surnames. I know people descended from Spaniards who adamantly deny being Hispanic, the are European. Latino is not a race.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: mitzi, 3/24/2013 6:22:54 PM     (No. 9241856)

Google "latino definition."

According to all of them. Pope Francis is considered a Latino.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: 4Justice, 3/24/2013 7:06:32 PM     (No. 9241900)

We need to stop all these ridiculous labels. We are all human and we have all mixed so much with so many different people, that race is really more irrelevant now than ever. I remember having an argument with my best friend years ago, She was of Portuguese and Italian descent and I am half Spanish and the rest is Irish, Swedish and Finnish. She tried to tell me that she was white but I wasn´t. I asked her "Where is Spain?". She still insisted Italian was "more white" than Spanish. Silly...of course, if I have Moorish blood, she have a point. But the whole idea was silly in the first place. I don´t care if I am part Venutian. I am an American and a human being. That is all that matters. We need to stop this ethnic junk and start worrying about REAL problems.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Javelin, 3/24/2013 7:28:18 PM     (No. 9241929)

Stupid article. The Pope is Catholic.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 3/24/2013 8:18:46 PM     (No. 9241965)

All you need to know about racism is to imagine white people doing it.

Any other group is forgivable...understandable...fashionable....hip...but white racism is criminal.

Well...OK....but we´ll need to roll out the crazy carpet.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: kono, 3/24/2013 8:53:16 PM     (No. 9241987)

Typical MSM double-standard.

Francis´ father was born in Italy, moved to Argentina, wed a woman born in Buenos Aires, where Francis was born and raised. Yet the MSM mumbles that Francis might be European...

Meanwhile, Obama´s mother was a Caucasian who was born and raised in America, and who´s own (white) mother raised Barry... But he´s called ´black´, and anybody who questions the validity of that label is dismissed as a racist.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: msjena, 3/24/2013 9:41:08 PM     (No. 9242024)

What about Salma Hayek, who is not of Mexican descent? Isn´t she "Latino?" Culture is more important than blood in defining nationality.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: texaspast, 3/24/2013 10:19:05 PM     (No. 9242056)

Dang. If we´ve gotten to the point that a native of Italy (the ORIGINAL Latins) can´t be a Latino, we is seriously messed up, we is.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: doctorfixit, 3/24/2013 11:48:00 PM     (No. 9242113)

#11 nails it. Labels are not helpful except to pigeonhole diverse individuals into rather meaningless groups. It´s a real challenge to not use labels. I find myself doing it all the time and I know it contributes to sloppy thinking.

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