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Three Years Too Late, Finally
Some Honesty on Obamacare

Commentary Magazine, by Bethany Mandel

Original Article

Posted By:StormCnter, 3/22/2013 5:53:58 AM

This weekend marks the third anniversary of Obama’s signature achievement, the healthcare bill named the “Affordable Care Act,” better known as Obamacare. At the time of the bill’s passage the New York Times called it an “attack on wealth inequality,” and unsurprisingly the paper was full-throated in its support of the president and his agenda. Now that the bill is safely passed and its namesake has been reelected, the Times small business section has come to a shocking realization: Obamacare is going to very seriously, and very negatively, impact small businesses. In two separate stories on their homepage

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Crosscut, 3/22/2013 6:45:20 AM     (No. 9238019)

Elections have consequences. As Obamacare becomes more entrenched, it will eventually suck even more to live in a blue state.


Reply 2 - Posted by: edgar, 3/22/2013 7:10:40 AM     (No. 9238044)

The Congressional Budget Office estimates that even with ObamaCare, more than 20 million Americans will be without healthcare. We also know that this will drive health insurance premiums much higher. So, the Affordable Care Act is proven to have failed on its two primary selling points to the public: To provide health insurance to all Americans and to reduce health insurance premiums by $2,500 per family. Repeal it!


   

 

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Me?Opinionated?Nah!, 3/22/2013 7:15:32 AM     (No. 9238047)

Insanity, thy name is “Obamacare!”


Reply 4 - Posted by: chance_232, 3/22/2013 7:21:03 AM     (No. 9238050)

Back when zippycare was being debated, i used this arguement.

Because there are 30 million Americans WITHOUT cars EVERYONE must give up the car, truck, SUV etc that they currently own and buy a lime green Yugo, so that we, the tax payers, can buy 30 million lime green yugos for those without one. In the end, everyone has a car that sucks ....... unless your a rich liberal, in which case you can still have your limousine,


Reply 5 - Posted by: O.S. Banker, 3/22/2013 7:22:47 AM     (No. 9238052)

And yet if any member of Congress presented a Bill to Repeal Obama are, this organ of theLSMwould have them hung, drawn and quartered before noon. The only solution is to defund it.


Reply 6 - Posted by: Judge, 3/22/2013 7:25:16 AM     (No. 9238058)

It WILL be a disaster


Reply 7 - Posted by: suziesuburbanite, 3/22/2013 7:28:45 AM     (No. 9238061)

Obvious math booboo. Insuring 90 workers for $108,000 is $1200 each per year.

Times missed one big option - making workers part time! The 29 hour work week will become the norm.


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: Spidey, 3/22/2013 7:30:28 AM     (No. 9238064)

Obamacare support has survived this long because it´s still an abstract concept in people´s minds. Even fairly well educated people can´t figure out how it´s supposed to work.The government can´t figure out how to implement it.All we´ve done so far is waste billions setting it up when that money could have been used for vouchers to get low income workers insured.

Of course it was a wealth redistribution scheme and you can tell by the millions of people who have been excluded from paying for it.Rich people aren´t going to pay for it,neither are the poor so that leaves a handful of people in the middle to pick up the tab.

At least two years ago i said consumer inflation wasn´t counted in the costs and now business after business are saying they have to pass the costs on. So as a premium holder,taxpayer and consumer,you´ll pay through the nose and be lucky to get covered yourself or have downgraded benefits.


Reply 9 - Posted by: Freeloader, 3/22/2013 7:34:56 AM     (No. 9238070)

Don´t forget to give "thanks" in your prayers today for the "educated fools" on The Supreme Court of The United States who gave this unconstitutional evil monstrosity the "green light."


Reply 10 - Posted by: cgood, 3/22/2013 7:42:16 AM     (No. 9238077)

Let Obamacare be the vehicle that drives the people to demand a constitutional amendment stating that congress may pass no law from which they (or anyone else for that matter)are exempt.

Nevermind, I´m dreaming. The American people aren´t willing to rise up against any form of tyranny; airport security proves that point.


Reply 11 - Posted by: udanja99, 3/22/2013 7:48:11 AM     (No. 9238082)

Remember when zippy swore over and over again that this wouldn´t add "one dime" to the debt? Now the CBO is saying that it will cost $10 plus TRILLION ( maybe more, I forget what the actual number is ) over the next 10 years.


Reply 12 - Posted by: IGWTrust, 3/22/2013 7:48:44 AM     (No. 9238083)

Our new Constitution. Reveal the author as a fraud and we will be rid of it and him.


   

 

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Bad Dog, 3/22/2013 7:48:46 AM     (No. 9238084)

Of course, we all here knew this, and more, would be the disastrous result of Obamacare. We were informed.

But we were called names, like ´racist´, for saying it out loud.

These super-smarts no longer control our information flow and intake. They should have listened to us.

First, they came for the conservatives.....


Reply 14 - Posted by: Red Jeep, 3/22/2013 7:49:37 AM     (No. 9238085)

Why do we just have to take it? Is Obamacare engraved in stone and cannot be erased?

Why can´t our politicians declare this is a bad law/act and eliminate it, cancel it?

Gee, everybody can see we are in a car that is going to go off the cliff but no one can hit the brakes?


Reply 15 - Posted by: strike3, 3/22/2013 7:59:17 AM     (No. 9238098)

It´s illegal, immoral and unconstitutional. Let´s just drop it.


Reply 16 - Posted by: privateer, 3/22/2013 8:00:15 AM     (No. 9238099)

How came so much harm to our Nation by one evil, rotten, ruthless, traitorous misanthrope? I´ll tell you. Decades of conditioning by the educational and LSM Thought-Police. Any effective resistance to his election or policies was stifled; no one wanted to be accused of "picking on the little colored boy". I guess it´s about time for round two of what Frederic Douglass predicted.


Reply 17 - Posted by: Red Jeep, 3/22/2013 8:07:20 AM     (No. 9238112)

BTW, Obamacare is not the 11th Commandent. Demand your politicians cancel this monstrosity.


   

 

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Reply 18 - Posted by: MOBeef4u, 3/22/2013 8:16:45 AM     (No. 9238126)

Didn´t the Roberts´ ruling pretty much say that O-care was a tax thereby throwing it into the purview of Congress which has the power to repeal any tax? Wishful thinking on his part, but the ball is in Congress´ court now. The question is what are they going to do about it? I´m not expecting much.


Reply 19 - Posted by: Patchy Groundfog, 3/22/2013 8:40:06 AM     (No. 9238149)

Bundling is second nature to the Dems and their funny money operations often headed up by foreigners.

And so they decided to bundle any and all business that might have common ownership, even if Joe Palooka owns a paving business and a lawn mowing service that are otherwise unrelated. Now instead of 20 employees in one company and 30 in another, he has 50 and is required to comply with Obamacare´s full stringent requirements!


Reply 20 - Posted by: LZK, 3/22/2013 8:52:48 AM     (No. 9238181)

I´ve come to the conclusion after attending classes at my local library -- titled "surviving obamacare" that the "won" really didn´t think the monster would pass -- BUT -- he wanted the "poor folk" to think he was on their side...

Unfortunately -- the Supremes took the ball and ran down court. NOW -- the demorats will have to live with every month of upset that this monster bill brings.

Americans will remember it was the demorats who did this...

LZK


Reply 21 - Posted by: M2, 3/22/2013 8:59:24 AM     (No. 9238198)

All this destruction of small businesses is deliberate the the Right knows it. The Left wants small businesses OUT of business b/c they don´t fit the State-as-nanny socialist model. Small businesses encourage self-sufficiency and entrepreneurism, which again doesn´t fit the dictatorial plans of this Administration.

Obamacare is going to very seriously, and very negatively, impact small businesses.

For the Left, that is just dandy -- the fewer people who are on their own, the fewer conservatives to vote Republican. Private ownership of anything, including property, guns, and yes, small businesses, is anathema to the Left.

The destruction is deliberate.


Reply 22 - Posted by: tasine, 3/22/2013 9:16:26 AM     (No. 9238234)

The problem is that all of us have been and still are preaching to the choir, and will be for the rest of eternity. The progressives and other sundry riff-raff WILL NOT LISTEN TO LOGIC. It is though their brain cells matured to the point they can whine, carp, and complain, but simply cannot THINK. Their stubborn streak will not allow them to admit they or theirs is WRONG. It is inconceivable that anyone should ever hear a Progressive admit obvious mistakes.


   

 



 
Reply 23 - Posted by: mc squared, 3/22/2013 9:19:50 AM     (No. 9238240)

I´ll second #21´s comment: The destruction is deliberate
Like so much else the left does it´s designed to separate us from our money and freedoms.
Now they can tell you how to live, whom to obey and if you live.


Reply 24 - Posted by: LadyVet, 3/22/2013 9:58:14 AM     (No. 9238327)

For those wanting a repeal, know this: Ted Cruz introduced a bill to repeal this monstrous act and the Democrats defeated it in the Senate. If you live in a "red" state and have a "blue" senator, you have work to do.


Reply 25 - Posted by: planetgeo, 3/22/2013 10:07:37 AM     (No. 9238347)

Someday there will be books on the psychological heist that has been pulled off without do much as a peep from Congress or the media. The sheer criminal complicity is mind boggling. It´s like a real life Ocean´s 11 or Catch Me If You Can.

Even the very name, Affordable Care Act, is like a giant middle finger to the country. Amazing.


Reply 26 - Posted by: chicodon, 3/22/2013 10:10:13 AM     (No. 9238354)

This is tricky. As we know with the sequester, if there are any Republican fingerprints on it they will be publicly blamed i.e. White House Tours, etc. In that case I suggested that the Republicans immediately go on every Sunday talk show and acquiesce and say they agreed with Obama. It IS time for him to lead. Therefore they will give him everything he wants as long as he requests it in writing. That would have painted Obama into a box. I think he would of refused.

Right now there are no Republican fingerprints on Obamacare. If we chip here and there we will leave fingerprints that will be exploited. Each program failure will be because of Republican tinkering.

I say bide our time and do as much as we can under the radar, but don´t be tied to it. The only useful action will be complete repeal. Probably in the midst of hospital and doctor strikes.


Reply 27 - Posted by: 6079 Smith, W, 3/22/2013 10:32:19 AM     (No. 9238409)

All of these observations are based on the idea that Obama and the Dems cared about healthcare when they passed the bill. Nothing could be further from the truth! The goal was to concentrate power in the hands of the govt. Healthcare was just the excuse. Obamacare delenda est!


Reply 28 - Posted by: Arby, 3/22/2013 10:51:06 AM     (No. 9238452)

It´s an abomination, created by twits and staffers, stuffing in all their favorite little leftist desires. The sheeple voted for the anointed one. Now they´re starting to suffer from their decision. What goeth aroundeth cometh aroundeth.


Reply 29 - Posted by: Butch59, 3/22/2013 11:00:10 AM     (No. 9238477)

As I´ve posted here in the past, why haven´t I heard or read a single peep from the CAREGIVERS? The doctors, nurses, hospitals, etc. that are going to provide this great healthcare promised by liberals/progressives. Has anyone ever asked them how they are going to survive Obozocare? We, and a nation, are already short of doctors in a lot of areas. So who or what is going to address that? And what about those caregivers that simply up and retire because they´re fed up with all the federal rules, regulations, pay schedules, etc. that they have to put up with and is going to get a lot worse. Again, I´ve not heard anyone address my questions and I think that they are legitimate.


Reply 30 - Posted by: stryker714, 3/22/2013 11:00:49 AM     (No. 9238478)

I like many was naively optimistic as the Scotus decision grew near, as the election drew near, etc etc. At every turn we´ve been defeated, so it´s pretty obvious that the shadow gov has the skids greased, the machine oiled and that the ACA is not going away. Period. Has anyone here EVER been to a court case where the judge took their side and even changed their position/testimony to make us win? Doubtful. It is incredible how Roberts voted and his gas-bag reasoning. I´m on Dick Morris´ mailing list and yes a recent "lunch alert" stipulated this will destroy small business. In a real communist country the government owns everything.
Another patriot email list I´m on has been sending emails about "pubs cave on unfunding ACA" and "last chance to kill Obamacare" but I won´t even open the email to read it-it is futile and wasted energy. The goose is cooked and we are getting it served up to us in abundant quantities until some unforeseen event occurs which isn´t likely. I appreciate Mr Cruz´ efforts but there are too many forces pitted against us.


Reply 31 - Posted by: jimjr, 3/22/2013 11:31:44 AM     (No. 9238567)

#4, Except in the end, those same 30 million still won´t have their lime green Yugos. The GAO finds that even with full implementation of Obamacare, about the same number of people with insurance will still be without insurance. Only this time, the people without insurance will be those too rich to get it for free and those too poor to afford it.


Reply 32 - Posted by: strike3, 3/22/2013 11:41:17 AM     (No. 9238595)

Obamacare is going to die a slow death but it will die. Last night, a 79-20 vote in the Senate favored repeal of the medical device tax, a 2.5 percent tax that has been killing this area of US business since January when it kicked in. Orders for new equipment have slowed to a trickle.

The idiots who passed this obamanation have to view the damage before they know how serious it is. Just wait until the rest of it hits the country.


Reply 33 - Posted by: PoliticalJunky, 3/22/2013 12:09:50 PM     (No. 9238662)

Why can´t we do this and wny can´t we do that? Because the Senate is in Democrat hands and we have a Democrat President who has the veto power.

Any more bright ideas?


Reply 34 - Posted by: jkcinsalem, 3/22/2013 12:23:49 PM     (No. 9238693)

There is one Republican´s fingerprint on Obamacare. That idiot congressman from Louisiana. There was one R-vote for the abomination.


Reply 35 - Posted by: bob913, 3/22/2013 12:29:06 PM     (No. 9238705)

Passed it late at night on a holiday using bribes. Yep that is a signature achievement.

In obamas world that is just standard operating procedure.

Now why hasn´t boehner stopped funding obamacare? Does he get a piece of the action? Has he been bribed?


Reply 36 - Posted by: Philipsonh, 3/22/2013 12:29:44 PM     (No. 9238707)

The impact of Obamacare on most people´s health care treatment and the cost of the treatment, including the premiums, will be so enormous that FINALLY even the strongest Obama supporter will realize they have been duped.
When it impacts them personally in such a negative way they will no longer see their
imperial majesty in quite the same light. When they go for treatment and find that they no longer have a primary care physician, or that their doctor´s office has actually closed up due to their inability to earn a profit, they will be hit full bore with the fact that the passage of the law has undermined the whole health care system in the U>S>


Reply 37 - Posted by: Philipsonh, 3/22/2013 1:03:31 PM     (No. 9238778)

A non-binding non-partisan vote just passed in the Senate to repeal the portion of Obamacare that imposes a tax on medical devices. If that portion of the law´s income is lost, exactly how is the law going to be paid for. These funds were included in the CBO projections. The whole law is a piece of political trash instigated by Obama hoping to mandate a single payer Government controlled
National Healthcare program and in the process, destroying the premier healthcare system in the World.


Reply 38 - Posted by: SaguaroJack, 3/22/2013 1:20:02 PM     (No. 9238808)

The Unaffordable Care Act, coming to a state near you.


Reply 39 - Posted by: AutumnJoy, 3/22/2013 1:40:41 PM     (No. 9238847)

If you happen to live in an economically depressed area with continued high unemployment, check out your obituary pages. If like ours, you will see a rapidly growning trend of 60 and 70 year olds dying. I wonder if some of them died because they couldn´t afford effective medical care NOW. Imagine what it will be like in 5 years?


Reply 40 - Posted by: chicodon, 3/22/2013 2:09:23 PM     (No. 9238888)

#34
Olympia Snowe voted to move it out of committee but I wasn´t aware of any other Republican votes. If anyone know more let us know.


Reply 41 - Posted by: lencu255, 3/22/2013 2:35:49 PM     (No. 9238927)

I have this threatening question:
Are we doomed as a free and prosperous country?
I have a suspicion that everybody else, I mean, everybody in the know, like repubican establishment, prominent commentators and analysts... know that the struggle is futile, that we will go the way the worst countries with state monopolized industries (like Russia, China, France) go?
Forget about so-called European style socialism. It was European style only because they had America to counter the rotten governments there. Now with obozo and leftist in America they can open up all spigots of statism.
I would like to see any signs that I am wrong and I don´t see any so far. We are sold each and every step: elections, courts, possibility of repubics to shore obozo´s onslaught on freedom and democracy!


Reply 42 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 3/22/2013 3:43:06 PM     (No. 9239006)

#41, Dr. Ben Carson is warning that other "pinnacle nations" have declined, and we are not immune from the same forces that destroyed them.

#21, read Rules for Radicals and see what Alinsky has to say about the middle class. You are correct that small business is being attacked.


Reply 43 - Posted by: Laurie, 3/22/2013 7:24:42 PM     (No. 9239263)

Speaking of Ben Carson, MD. Has anyone asked why he´s chosen NOW to retire from medicine? He´s only 62. I suspect it´s a John Galt thing with Obamacare looming.


Reply 44 - Posted by: Fireball27, 3/23/2013 2:36:45 AM     (No. 9239598)

Anyone else wonder what will happen with healthcare providers such as St. Jude´s and the Shriners hospitals? If the Govt. is going to run healthcare we won´t need these non-profits anymore. Right?



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Posted By: KarenJ1- 7/31/2013 6:58:18 PM     Post Reply
Arizona Sen. John McCain was the Republican Party´s 2008 presidential nominee and he still wants the keys to the Oval Office. But he is beginning to sound more like a fan of likely 2016 Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. "She´s a rock star," he said in a newly released interview. "She has, maybe not glamour, but certainly the aura of someone widely regarded throughout the world," he added in a reference to her work as secretary of State. McCain, reportedly trying to win back his reputation as a GOP maverick, was asked by the New Republic

Barack Obama’s clueless message
to America’s middle class shows a
presidency out of touch with reality

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Telegraph [UK], by Nile Gardiner    Original Article
Posted By: Attercliffe- 7/31/2013 4:25:41 AM     Post Reply
President Obama has been rolling up his sleeves campaigning across the country delivering a surreal stump speech message supposedly aimed at the middle class: big government works, Obamacare is manna from heaven, the wave of recent scandals are “phony” figments of the imagination, and all economic problems are the fault of the Republicans. Conveniently, he leaves out the bankruptcy of Detroit, a city run by his own party for more than half a century. His message is so stale and unconvincing, that even The New York Times and Washington Post have noticed. Both papers, usually loyal to Obama, remarked that

Huma partly blamed herself over
Weiner´s sexting, friends say

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New York Post, by Sally Goldenberg & Leonard Greene    Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly- 8/1/2013 5:17:56 AM     Post Reply
Serial sexter Anthony Weiner’s wife partly blamed herself last year when her horndog husband confessed to her that he was at it again. Friends and family told People magazine that Huma Abedin was kicking herself at the time for bailing out of couples counseling and focusing more on their newborn baby boy. But, thanks to a new round of joint therapy that continues even now, the couple was able to put the relapse behind them. “They really became a unit, and she feels much closer to Anthony now,” a relative told the magazine. That’s a long way from how Abedin

PPP poll: Palin leads Alaska
Republican Senate primary by 10 points

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Hot Air. com, by Allahpundit    Original Article
Posted By: Not your typical New Yorker- 7/31/2013 11:12:11 AM     Post Reply
Gotta figure her lead would be even bigger without Joe Miller in the field here. Her nomination for the taking? Alaska should be a top tier pick up opportunity for Senate Republicans next year…but their top choice of a candidate is Sarah Palin. 36% of GOP primary voters in the state say they’d like Palin to be their standard bearer against Mark Begich to 26% for Mead Treadwell, 15% for Dan Sullivan, and 12% for Joe Miller.

E-mails Suggest Collusion
Between FEC, IRS to
Target Conservative Groups

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National Review Online, by Eliana Johnson    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 7/31/2013 6:07:16 AM     Post Reply
Embattled Internal Revenue Service official Lois Lerner and an attorney in the Federal Election Commission’s general counsel’s office appear to have twice colluded to influence the record before the FEC’s vote in the case of a conservative non-profit organization, according to e-mails unearthed by the House Ways and Means Committee and obtained exclusively by National Review Online. The correspondence suggests the discrimination of conservative groups extended beyond the IRS and into the FEC, where an attorney from the agency’s enforcement division in at least one case sought and received tax information about the status of a conservative group,

McCain strolls into Dem caucus meeting
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The Hill (Washington DC), by Judy Kurtz    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 7/31/2013 1:28:56 PM     Post Reply
Sen. John McCain — a Democrat? There was confusion Wednesday after the Arizona Republican mistakenly strolled into President Obama’s meeting with Senate Democrats at the Capitol. The room full of Democrats — who happened to be meeting in the same room where the Senate GOP usually holds their weekly policy luncheons — erupted in applause and laughter as the former Republican presidential candidate made his entrance. As McCain, 76, walked out of the Dem-filled space, reporters pressed him as to why he stepped foot in the room.

Oprah Decries Americans´ Ignorance
on Civil Rights, Laments ´Millions´
of Blacks Lynched

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Breitbart´s Big Hollywood, by Ben Shapiro    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 8/1/2013 10:49:27 AM     Post Reply
In preparation for the release of Oscar-bait film The Butler, Forest Whitaker, Oprah Winfrey, and director Lee Daniels (Precious) sat down with Parade magazine. The film chronicles a butler (Whitaker) who works in the White House through seven administrations. Winfrey plays the butler’s wife. In the interview, Winfrey explained her sadness that so few Americans know about the history of the civil rights movement: “They don’t know diddly-squat. Diddly-squat.” She then said of the historic use of the n-word, “I always think of the millions of people who heard that as their last

Obama´s Creeping Authoritarianism
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Wall Street Journal, by Daniel Henninger    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 7/31/2013 9:41:29 PM     Post Reply
If we learned anything about Barack Obama in his first term it is that when he starts repeating the same idea over and over, what´s on his mind is something else. The first term´s over-and-over subject was "the wealthiest 1%." Past some point, people wondered why he kept beating these half-dead horses. After the election, we knew. It was to propagandize the targeted voting base that would provide his 4% popular-vote margin of victory—very young voters and minorities. They believed. He won. The second-term over-and-over, elevated in his summer speech tour, is the shafting of the middle class. But

New EPA chief promises jobs,
pulls no punches in
climate change fight

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Washington Times, by Ben Wolfgang    Original Article
Posted By: Scottyboy- 7/31/2013 9:54:00 AM     Post Reply
In her first speech since taking over the Environmental Protection Agency, Gina McCarthy came out swinging Tuesday and promised to ramp up the aggressive climate change agenda laid out by President Obama.(snip)“Can we stop talking about environmental regulations killing jobs? Please, at least for today,” she said during remarks at Harvard Law School. “We need to cut carbon pollution to grow jobs. We need to cut carbon pollution to strengthen the economy. Let’s talk about it positively. Let’s approach this as an opportunity of a lifetime. There are too many lifetimes at stake.”


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