And Ronaldus Maximus (Peace be upon Him)....

´Double crossed his heart´ promised us all that this was the one and only, I really mean it, never ever again..... time we´re gonna do this.

Are the Metsikans too big to fail ???

How about as a condition of amnesty, those getting amnesty cannot vote until 25 years after receiving amnesty.
Let´s see all those altruistic politicians stand up and give illegal aliens what the illegal aliens want...citizenship.
All the politicians want is the votes.
What a bunch of hypocrites!!

title of article does ot seem to be correct.

i am not a rand paul fan. too much like his father and seems to be a media hound.

that being said, i have no problems with letting the illegals get work permits, but i draw the line at giving them citizenship

Have been hearing the 11 million number for many years. The real number has to be at least double that.

In fairness I heard Rand Paul interviewed and he is getting a bit of a raw deal. What he is proposing is that people already here get to stay, and get to work, but they get in line to officially emigrate the same is if they were in Mexico today. In fact, they probably will not reach the head of the line in their lifetimes and will not ever be eligible to vote.
That being said, I think dumping 10 million newly legal laborers in the labor pool is pretty much going to relegate any blue color job to minimum wage. That would be devastating for the economy.

First, let´s stop more from coming across the border - then and only then should we be discussing this.

Sorry Rand, we need to stop the influx from the south - fewer Mexicano´s and more Orientals and Europeans (and I don´t mean Russian mafioso´s).

Tell ya what, I´ll trade out on the issue. I´ll go for giving illegal immigrants legal status, if we can get the GOP and Dems to drop the whole gay marriage crusade.

I generally like what he has to say on most subjects, so will continue to listen on this one.
We are in a really bad spot here. Neither party seems able or willing to control the border. They have had many years to do it and they just arent interested. Both parties seem to want this cheap semi-slave labor here, despite the unintended costs.
Since nobody in power wants to keep them out or make them leave, maybe some other option exists.

Why is it that Congress cannot grasp the PAIN we working citizens endure from the costs associated with educating the children of illegals, feeding them, housing them, etc?
Demands for schools boosts our property taxes..Not to mention the costs of the Federal freebies.
It is rewarding bad behavior (thumbing their noses at our laws).

#8 -- Both parties seem to want this cheap semi-slave labor here, despite the unintended costs.

Replace that "both parties" with the American people. It really is broader than the two parties.

This will be a difficult sell for Rand Paul.

Just because he got a boost from his filibuster does not mean the glow will last.

He has no halo that will extend to all of his positions.
We will take them on case by case, issue by issue.

Put teeth into enforcement...
I´d make it a war.
We won the previous and got a huge chunk of the continent...
now invaders seem to want to take it back from us.

Why does the Department of Defense not protect our borders from invasion?
Dee-Fence is what´s needed.
Git her done, NOW!
No excuses.

Perhaps Senator Paul should wait until his own constituents have jobs before he invites more workers in...

Make the mexican government pay taxes for all of the illegals. - I am sick and tired of the illegals helping themselves to our benefits. Go home and demand your government do the taking care of and freebies for them.

Put the Rush proposal that says they can´t vote for 20 yrs and see if the Dems like it.

Oops. I missed #2s post.

Couldn´t agree more OP. What we have here Rand, is a failure/refusal by Congress to enforce the laws from back in 1986. You are a meathead 2.0 if you guys fall for the same bull cookies the dems are passing out as snacks.

How many here have actually read Senator Paul´s plan?

Too many wait for Rush to tell them to think about any given issue.

Today was very important, we find out that Rush is obsessed with Beyonce.

Guess he knows his audience. Lo or No info types.

My take? If they can´t keep the promises they made when they placed their hand on the bible (or whatever they used)and swore to protect my country, why should I trust them about amnesty?

FTA: "We have 11 million people here that have been here — some of them for a decade or more. No one is telling them to go home. … So I would say if you want to work, we’ll find a place for you. But that doesn’t mean you get special privileges. It just means we’ll get you a work visa."

You just outlined a huge chunk of special privileges, you moron!

"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple and wrong."
~~ H.L. Mencken

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

#3: Within minutes of any "reform" [read: de facto amnesty], a bill will hit the hopper to "end the apartheid, fight the unfairness" of denying citizenship to these [pre-deleted] illegal aliens. Anyone -- tell me "That´s not gonna happen." Dare you.

FTA: "And I’m not asking for an abrogation of law. I’m not asking for something that’s not conservative. I’m the one up here saying we have to have border security. But I am one up here who says if people want to work, we’ll find a place for them."

Up is not up. Down is not down.

Alice laughed: "There´s no use trying," she said; "one can´t believe impossible things."

"I daresay you haven´t had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was younger, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I´ve believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast."
~~ Alice in Wonderland [emphasis added]

The Myth of the Conservative Latino / Hispanic. It sure worked out well here in California, but go ahead. Misery loves company.

I understand why dems and unions are in favor of citizenship, but why, pray tell, do Republicans favor "amnesty" or a path to citzenship? Do they see the situation as so hopeless they just hope to cadge some political credit? That´s a bit naive. And who seriously believes we owe these illegals anything? They are depressing wages, increasing unemployment, and are often an anti-social element in society as well. Why give a reward (and encourage more of the same)? Insanity. I´ll move to Mexico - they´ll be more Americans living there in a few years. Oh, wait, they won´t let me in.

There is a larger issue with Beyonce. But low information voters can´t see it. They are too busy being smarter by half.
And those who never listen to Rush Limbaugh generally are easy to spot when they dismiss him. They never know what they are talking about.
Amnesty will guarantee the demise of the republican party, which is exactly what the democrats want.

This is a one generation issue. All of the kids of illegals will be citizens. In 20 years, this will all be moot and this conversation will seem kind of cute.

Rand Paul takes a libertarian approach to the illegal alien problem, make them all legal and allow them to work. That´s OK as far as it goes.

But Paul is against an enhanced e-verify system claiming that makes employers immigration officers. That is not so, as employers withholding employee income taxes does not make employers IRS agents. Without an enhanced e-verify system that all employers must use, illegal aliens will know that in the future they can continue to sneak into the USA, and will be able to continue to get hired to US jobs by fraudulently using somebody else´s ID or by using counterfeit ID.

How about a law that restricts the amount of Federal money going to States inversely proportional to the number of illegals they house? Negative feedback is a stabilizer.

A free guest worker permit is an IRS amnesty for past unreported income. An amnesty US Citizens could never acquire. Thats a Fail.

Mexico is draining u$ dry. That is the second worst "leak" in our immigration system.

Start with the border and cycle immediately into collecting the money every illegal Mexican owes us.

Lets start arresting these people, one by one, and charging them with failure to report income. One-by-one, the word will spread and the self deportation will begin.

Let the lawyers chase laws. Lets us chase the money; its what this is about.

#24: Sorry I´m coming back here late, but a particular assertion must be debunked.

There is no such thing as "birthright citizenship" [typically and 100% incorrectly asserted by the Left as "existing" under the 14th Amendment]. Judges can read whatever into the emanations of the penumbras of the whitewalls for all I care, but both the plain language [via "subject to the jurisdiction thereof"] and the contemporary comments of the participants make the point unmistakeable.

If that weren´t enough [it is more than enough], phony "birthright citizenship" violates the ancient common-law principle that a criminal [the illegal alien parents in this case] may not profit from his illegal acts. e.g. We don´t let bank robbers keep the loot, or the fancy car they bought with it, when we catch them.