I will take {Palin over Rove

Karl, Karl, Karl,

I see that you are not going to go away gracefully. No surprise I suppose. Take Jeb with you.

What #2 said.

I am so over KR and his white board. Enough already.

Love to see who would draw the larger crowd. You up for that, Karl baby?

A political Throwdown, kool!

A strange occupation, this political consultant thing. Where else in life can a loser have just as much credibility as a winner?
Please Rove, don´t respond to Sarah´s comments. You are a little yipper dog trying to scare a mama grizzly.

Being a balding white is the least of your likability problem Karl

Political consultants have no core values. Saying what you need to say to win is all they know. I can´t stand to listen to any of them Democrat or Republican.

Rove was doing fine, and then couldn´t resist taking a cheap shot. Palin quit the Governorship for perfectly legitimate reasons and Rove knows it.

Nailin´ Karl Rove: ScarletPimpernel swings back at Karl Rove after she says Rove´s failures at predicting elections on his little white board hurts his credibility as a GOP consultant."

How about that?

(Hehehe)

Now we know that Sarah hit a home run when the great Karl Rove has to fight back. Not so smart Karl! Now there will be more discussion about your ineptitudes on all the TV stations.

If I recall Palin supported Steelman over Akin....I don´t remember her campaigning for Akin after he beat Steelman in the primary. Rove has become a problem.....all those millions to one guy who is close to Fox network. Don´t you think they didn´t make a bundle on his ads? They are all in the same bed where the money is. Palin has it right; why do you think she is on the outs with so many; she speaks the truth!

Remember that she gave up her governors office, because of massive law suits against her that were simply slander. Nothing ever came of them, but they took years to adjudicate. She didn´t want the state to have to endure their governor being sued endlessly.

When I saw Rove back on Fox so shortly after the election, I asked why? He has nothing to offer now, but a constant defense of himself white board and all.

I saw this panel. Chris W is sleezy. Yes, that is what I said. He had to help out Karl, insinuating of course that Palin was entirely out of line in any criticism she proposed. Karl may live in Texas but baby, he is a creature of D.C. and for him to tell us he makes no money? I could not believe my ears.

After a lot of the usual thoughts, and maybe one or two that were off the wall, I think this is a worthwhile comment:

Rove is a Republican.

Palin is a Conservative.

Principles matter to me -- very much. Conservatives in large part are defined by their commitment to principles.

Just a little thinking and it all comes clear.

#7: Good post, thanks. And it confirms my take from a different quarter. Thanks for that help.

Even if both are a little right, we are wasting energy on infighting and not focusing on the left. Which is by design and Alinsky rule.

We are in the tall weeds.

Frank Luntz´s focus groups were and are a sham/joke.

Laura Ingraham lost me when she bashed Romney for taking a family vacation.

Ann Coulter is an elitist whose humor is long passed.

Karl is the leader of them all. They need to grab a clue.

The Pope quit. Sarah quit.
Get over it Karl.

Rove´s still upset after he mentioned on a national TV talkshow that "Sarah Palin´s endorsements weren´t worth snot". Well, Rove, Sarah Palin endorsed the 3 new Senators who grace the Halls of Congress-----how many of those you endorsed are in the Senate? I believe the answer is NONE.
Better pick on someone who is bigger than you, architect.

"If I did run for office and win, I´d serve out my term. I wouldn´t leave office mid-term," Rove said on "Fox News Sunday."

Karl! Karl! Karl! Is that the best you can do? As a sophisticated political pundit/guru with your very own whiteboard and black Sharpie, you know good and well that Sarah Palin resigned her governorship for nothing but altruistic reasons solely on behalf of Alaska. Those are the shortest of straws you’re grasping at.

"Better pick on someone who is bigger than you, architect."

Touché!

Lot of ifs there Carl. None of which we will ever have to worry about. Cheap talk. If you got elected which you wouldn´t it is pure speculation you would not quit; and I for one don´t believe you could take the heat at the level of a governor.

Wouldn´t quit? How many marriages has he had?

George Costanza is a better architect than Karl Rove....

Rove really is starting to look like a punk...

Rove is like a one legged man in a butt kicking contest.

They can fight it out, but when a GOP operative uses incorrect leftist talking points to criticize some one, they should be toast.

Karl, she did NOT quit. She resigned for the good of the state of Alaska. Yeah, you are selfish enough to stay in office even when you can no longer be effective. You WOULD stay even if it cost your state ridiculous amounts of money and resources just because you are that selfish. You wouldn´t care if the state suffered. You only care about your career and your prestige. Palin actually cared about her state and the people in it. But that just shows the difference in your characters.

I think ol´ Karl has lost his mind now that Geo W Bush isn´t lending him a brain any more. I think he´s using Carville´s now.

Karl the "elite" vs. Sarah the "conservative".
Rove hates the TEA party, let´s be honest here. We are in the fight of our lives FOR the Republican party.
Either we return to the Constitution and the LAWS of this land, or we roll over for the democrats, the illegals, the welfare queens, and every other "group" that perceives itself as offended for some darn reason. democrat, the party of NO personal responsibility.

"Karl, she did NOT quit. She resigned for the good of the state of Alaska."

Alaskans apparently agree with Rove. Her disapproval rating in her home state is about 60%.

After reading #23´s comment, I Googled the question. Suffice it to say, Rove is in no position to question anyone´s commitment to a cause.

Per #17, The parallels between Benedict XVI and Palin are interesting. For the good of their respective entities, they had to pass the ball to someone who could score (using a basketball analogy). On a personal level, Benedict was incapacitated by age, not his fault; Palin was incapacitated by legal bills defending herself from phony charges, likewise not her fault.

Interesting. Karl Rove "restrained himself from swinging back", and remained silent, for the full eight years of W´s administration in face of the most venomous and vitriolic public attacks on any politician, in recent memory, other than Sarah Palin.
Yet, he comes out "swinging back", "nailin´ Palin" immediately after she made a rather innocuous remark about political consultants - probably in response to all the "swings" aimed at her about going back home and running for office or shutting her mouth.

Guess Karl is right, it´s a good thing he is just a consultant. He´s way too thin-skinned to be a political candidate. ; )

Was the Republican Party ready to help with all the frivolous law suits by the dems?

Since when does a consultant or pundit need to run for office?

(And on a femme note - what´s with the big hair, Sarah?)

I don´t think the thread really panned out the way the OP thought it might.

Funny, that´s the same thing they say at the Daily Kos.

Oh I forgot - only one opinion allowed on Palin threads.

I forgot. Did anyone else turn off FNS this morning? They are losing me.

Karl has never liked Palin...matter of fact I have never heard him compliment any repub woman...

#27: Quite correct, first of all.

To expand: the Left made accusations like Carter´s makes pills -- truckloads. Nothing came of them.

But also, the Palin family was targeted. No exceptions. Kids? All the better. How can they fight back? At some point, a committed parent had better put family first. And a gov who is neutralized and costing the state a bundle because of outside partisan attackers can honestly and legitimately resign. Almost certainly should do so.

Let´s also remember that a muck-raker was moved in next door to her family´s home, too.

#30: Is it possible that poll means they wanted to keep Palin as gov? Is it possible that poll [if it is anti-Palin sentiment] just shows propaganda works? Most importantly, is it possible that poll shows the respondents´ opinions that don´t actually reflect the facts?

The GOP brand is so damaged by Progressive RINO´s like Bsh in... it´s past saving. Time to either join the libertarian party or the US version of the UKIP.

The problem with folks like Rove and most of the Republican consultant class is that they are too happy to cash the checks without doing the real work needed to bring victory.

They all push this "don´t rock the boat" idea. When the Democrats and their media whores decide to start scurrilous attacks (Sarah Palin, Mitt Romney, et al), their advice is to either pile on or step aside and either contribute to the beating or watch it happen.

I guess their thinking is that the media and/or Low Info voters will treat them and their candidates nicely if they don´t stand up to the Democrat/media bullies. I´ve yet to see any proof that strategy actually works.

For example, Romney had Obama on the ropes after the first debate. He let Fat Candy roll over him in the second debate and played Casper Milequtoast in the third, and in my book, snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

And I´m sure it was at the behest of his consultant class.

Exactly Rove´s advic loses elections. ...Too long in Austin? s/

Country Class vs. Ruling Class. It always comes down to that analysis, and which side they´re on.

I´m still for Sarah. She resigned the governorship for the good of her state, but she has never quit the fight. While Rove and others retreat into treating it all as a horse race from which they affect to have a neutral distance, she continues to lead the worst and hardest battles, lay claim to truth - among other things showing thereby she believes there is such a thing. Where was Daniels when the fight was hot? Where did all those people vanish to once they had no more chance of the White House? Sarah has stayed in the middle of the fight, effective, sensible, providing good guidance, taking the worst heat. All she quit was the paycheck.

Well Karl, you have a good gig going there as long as the money holds out. That may change sooner than you think.

#30 Polls Schmools..facts are facts...Eagles Up ,Sarah!!!!

Pretty ironic coming from someone who toured around the country in a huge bus that may or may not have been just a "family vacation"....

Can you imagine how many law suits Sarah would have had to contend with if she were POTUS? Something about heat in the kitchen.

Karl, I used to like you, but I´ve gotten over it!

Reminds me of the one rule at Washington University when General Lee was their president:

"Always act like a gentleman."

Rove didn´t just lose 2 elections in a row. He lost the last half of W´s second term. That was when the wheels came off the Repub party wagon. He owns that steep slide.

If he left right now and was never heard from again, we would suffer nothing.

Fox threw Sarah to the wind & kept Rove, Dennis, Colmes, Beckel, Krystol, Wallace... they like the repub party need some new faces....how many elections has Rove won compared to Palin...and my guess is Rove received big $$$ for his non- wins.

If your household had to put up with half the garbage fabricated about Palin, I´d be willing to be you wouldn´t get a 40% per cent approval rating at your own kitchen table.

I reeeeallllllly don´t like Karl Rove.

When Karl Rove turned against the TEA Party people, that´s when I knew I could never trust that man. Go away, Karl. The same goes for Fat Boy Christie once he started hugging and kissing Obama right before the election. Both members of the Justice Roberts club of traitors.

Seems to me that Rove just proved Sarah´s point.

Rove oversaw the flipping of the House and Senate from GOP to democrat, the creation of a massive, wasteful new federal agency, DHS, sat by for 8 years of screaming riots about hating Bush, Republicans, and America, did nothing to alert us that subprime loans were going to destroy the country, and made it easy for the radical left to take over for 8 years. Rove and others should have apologized to us and retired from public life in shame. Enter Fox News. It has given Rove and the establishment permanent ability to prevent us from saving this country.

I didn´t like Karl before and I don´t like him now. He´s like the guy with fat squishy sweaty hands you don´t trust. If not for Hannity, nobody would remember his name.

Hey balding fat guy, your candidates lost the last two elections by a bunch. Your track record isn´t so good. You and the GOP elite have been taking shots at Sarah since 2008, don´t be surprised when she shoots back!

Oops, 2004.

Karl looked like Krispy Kreame last night, on his "weigh" to heavyweight. He seriously looked like all the bashing he has been getting has been driving him to the comfort food. Three-forths full Karl, and that includes Bull Schmidt.

Karl took his highest ladder, and taped a step stool to it.
He climbed up, and reaching as high as he could, took a single swipe at Sarah´s ankle but sadly fell far far short.