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Being White in Philly
Philadelphia Magazine, by Robert Huber
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Posted By:noproblems, 3/17/2013 8:58:58 AM
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My younger son goes to Temple, where he’s a sophomore. This year he’s living in an apartment with two friends at 19th and Diamond, just a few blocks from campus. It’s a dangerous neighborhood. Whenever I go see Nick, I get antsy and wonder what I was thinking, allowing him to rent there.One day, before I pick him up for lunch, I stop to talk to a cop who’s parked a block away from Nick’s apartment.“Is he already enrolled for classes?” the cop says when I point out where my son lives.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
catfur27, 3/17/2013 9:13:18 AM (No. 9229144)
..long...but interesting and well written article
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Rivetjoint, 3/17/2013 9:17:08 AM (No. 9229153)
And Hizzoner, Mayor Nutter, is going nuts about it.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
HicksvilleKid59, 3/17/2013 9:23:17 AM (No. 9229163)
Does the first amendment have standing In Philly?
I guess not by rhe way the mayor is acting.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
JimS, 3/17/2013 9:33:09 AM (No. 9229176)
Lived in Philly in the early ´70´s. It was bad even then, and a cesspool now. More than anything, I blame the ghettoization brought on by the racial shift. That may sound racist, but it is factual. One only need to look at Washington DC, Detroit, Chicago, Camden, Newark, East St. Louis to see the same crime, urban decay, and filth.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Freeloader, 3/17/2013 9:34:19 AM (No. 9229179)
FTA: "Meanwhile, when I drive through North Philly to visit my son, I continue to feel both profoundly sad and a blind desire to escape."
"Philadelphia Closes 2011 With Highest Per Capita Murder Rate In U.S."
CBS PHILLY December 30, 2011
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Blue-Z-Anna, 3/17/2013 9:36:22 AM (No. 9229180)
Barky has not only poisoned the well but his anti-white/anti-American world view informs all of his decisions and perpetuates the worst possible stereotypes on both sides.
Everyone knows it.
But it must not be spoken about.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
bpl40, 3/17/2013 9:43:30 AM (No. 9229193)
Interesting point about being extra courteous to Blacks. Here in the North East I sense that African Americans (perhaps sub- consciously) have come to expect it from non-Negroes. I am a non white immigrant and don´t particularly have any concern or fear of the religion of victimology. Try to have a Henry Higgins like approach - treat a flower girl or a duchess the same way. I have seen a ´this-is-something-different´ look of surprise in black womens´s eyes on occasions.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
uno, 3/17/2013 9:44:09 AM (No. 9229195)
From what I have seen, so called "racism" and the use of the “Race Card” has gone up exponentially since the election of the Obamboozler. After all, a very large percentage of Whites voted for this fraud in order for him to win. It simply became obvious to the Black community that real racism has just about dissappeared and that they can no longer depend on it to use as a crutch. Therefore much of the so-called "racism" today is fabricated to simply keep it alive. Let´s face it, it´s a huge cash cow when you look at it in terms of advantages, programs and all the federal money involved. Let my people go? Uh uh. They don´t dare let "racism" go. And you know they´ve jumped the shark when a sandwich is considered racist!:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/11/is-peanut-butter-and-jelly-racist_n_1874905.html
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
WhamDBambam, 3/17/2013 9:47:03 AM (No. 9229203)
One of the schools to which my daughter (and only child) has been accepted is the University of Pennsylvania, where one of her uncles attended many years ago. This article and similar reports have given my wife and I serious concerns about her attending there.
Am I willing to drop my only child, who has probably had a somewhat sheltered upbringing here in Arkansas, in the middle of this growing cesspool?
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
lakerman1, 3/17/2013 9:48:13 AM (No. 9229204)
The author is naïve. Why would Temple tell an adult student where to live? Student privacy is so sacrosanct, the author would not be able to talk to his son´s professors or counselors or administrators, without the permission of his son. The Author should ask himself the big question. Why would he allow his son to go to school in such a dangerous area? If dad is paying the bills for his son, dad could steer his son away from the ghetto. Lots of nice, safe schools in Pennsylvania. Go somewhere else.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Teleologicus, 3/17/2013 9:51:33 AM (No. 9229208)
A well-written and sensitive -too sensitive in my view- piece. The ignorant mayor of Philadelphia´s predictable response shows how hopeless the whole thing is. The only option available to rational people is to move as far away as possible. I cannot imagine why anyone, black or white, would choose to remain in such a dangerous, depraved environment if they had the ability to leave. The mayor´s response guarantees that things are going to have to get a lot worse before they start to get better - if they ever do start to get better. It sounds like writing Philadelphia off is the best course for now.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Hotrod, 3/17/2013 9:59:11 AM (No. 9229223)
FAR: ´´Here in the North East I sense that African Americans (perhaps sub- consciously) have come to expect it from non-Negroes.´´
It is a symptom of the entitlement mentality. People who are told, over and over, that they are victims come to believe it. When the government caters to them and makes special rules for them, they get the idea that they are, indeed victims. Then, the government, media, education system, and the rest of the political left tells the they are entitled to all the special treatment because of their skin color, they believe that too.
Dr Carson was right on the money when he talked about the politics of division. The political left has a goal of dividing Americans along racial, gender, sexual orientation, and other lines. That is the key to their power.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
lil dotty, 3/17/2013 10:08:04 AM (No. 9229233)
The march to Philly; such a short journey from American Bandstand and Bobby Rydel to the Philly today. What America was and how do we return?
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
VeteranAmerican, 3/17/2013 10:19:43 AM (No. 9229251)
I went to LaSalle College in the mid-60´s. It was in the Germntw area. always felt safe. The Police Chief was Rizzo. When his officers went in to black areas they went 2-4 to a car, automatic weapons, and K-9´s. He was constantly criticized for being too brutal and racist. His comment? Tough, if you don´t like it move. I´m here to protect the citizens and I will use any means available. That same area now is a cesspool.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
BuckeyeRon, 3/17/2013 10:35:16 AM (No. 9229273)
Sorry, #1, too long and poorly written. Struggled through the first page of this string of anecdotes and then gave up when I got to the bottom of page 1 and saw there were many more pages. #2 is correct...the mayor for going nuts over this, just like the NYC mayor went nuts over the soda ban...both are minor issues when NYCity spends $24billion annually on public schools for 1.1million kids, and 80% of them can´t read...the same probably holds true for Philly...
Expect more headlines like this over the coming generation...Being White in PA, Being White in America, Being White in the World as Whites come to the realization they are a minority globally and with diminishing numbers as they and their parents get older, and their kids get into same sex lifestyles that don´t produce kids or relationships with members of other racial groups...
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
M2, 3/17/2013 10:38:58 AM (No. 9229279)
It´s a well-researched article but I´m not certain it accomplishes anything because....
On one level, such self-consciousness and hypersensitivity can be seen as progress when it comes to race, a sign of how much attitudes have shifted for the better, a symbol of our desire for things to be better. And yet, lately I’ve come to fear that the opposite might also be true: that our carefulness is, in fact, at the heart of the problem.
I read a lot of white guilt in this piece by Mr. Huber. His quote, above, is right. There is too much carefulness. The main reason for that is that this POTUS and his Justice Dept. have given black people a perfectly fine reason to have a bounty on white heads (not literal heads, just overt racism against white people.)
It´s not the only reason, either. So long as blacks believe that the Democrat lies about them being "for the poor", they will continue to contribute to their own slavery, stuck in crime-ridden neighborhoods with no fathers and no kids who get educated.
Finally, it is common sense that white people don´t venture into "bad", crime-filled neighborhoods. What are they trying to prove? That they´re not racist. Black criminals don´t care. They see white faces and it´s open season. It is stupid to venture into ANY neighborhood with a high crime rate.
So while I think the writer means well, with the above quote, he nails a big part of racial problems in America.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
MDConservative, 3/17/2013 10:41:57 AM (No. 9229283)
I gave up "thinking about race" a long time ago. Spent years as the only white (and only male) in a black female-dominated work environment. As a proverbial fly on the wall, it was interesting, to say the least. The biggest problem is that white folks fall for the woofing about race every time. It´s a focus changer that is used time after time because white folks go through the denial routine - focus changed. If you want to have an interesting conversation, don´t change focus, ignore the "charge", do not bother to deny it. That´s when the real fun begins.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
john56, 3/17/2013 10:59:59 AM (No. 9229301)
Sadly, there are too few (but God be praised, some) in the black community that are working from the inside to improve their community.
And that, my friend, is where change in any group -- white, black, hispanic, whatever, will happen.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
Spidey, 3/17/2013 11:26:43 AM (No. 9229358)
Maybe today´s black resentment is worse because Obama hasn´t delivered for his most loyal bloc of voters.Obama is constantly championing white liberal or hispanic causes.Black people don´t care about global warming or gay marriage,they want to know when their lives will get better.Gun control is another white liberal cause as is eating healthy.
There´s a sizable list of foods coming out that the leftists nutritionists consider unhealthy and will be banned from schools.Black and hispanic kids will see this as a form of racism just like in NY on the soda ban.
Republicans are fools for not reaching out to black people,I wouldn´t have a problem doing it.Instead they just write them off leaving the racists name calling intact.If you don´t challenge an accusation,it´s left standing.Republicans are sucking up to amnesty so they don´t look like racists.It won´t work because there´s inherent lack of trust which has been bored in their heads through the school system.
This country has gotten much more conclave since Obama got elected.The only remnants of a melting pot is the left´s version called diversity which hasn´t done a damn thing for racial acceptance.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
zephyrgirl, 3/17/2013 11:45:41 AM (No. 9229403)
After years of working in a mixed-race environment, I´ve learned to stay away from the AAs. I´m polite, but distant. They´ll turn on you in a heartbeat. It isn´t worth dealing with them and the world-class chips they have on their shoulders.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
bighambone, 3/17/2013 12:18:14 PM (No. 9229458)
The White people who contributed thoughts for the article really seem scared to death to tell the truth about how they feel, or are just too stupid to recognize what is happening around them. The truth be known, and if White people had the chance to vote on it, criminal ghetto Black folks would be on their way back to Africa, the only problem would be finding a country in Africa to receive them. The Mayor of Philadelphia may well have figured all that out.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
smcchk, 3/17/2013 12:29:13 PM (No. 9229472)
Way too long and way too overly sensitive. Just dump the white guilt already! Our permanent underclass is looking for more reasons to feel entitled and victimized; don´t give them anymore.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
fobo, 3/17/2013 12:54:10 PM (No. 9229497)
#9, a really tough decision. Penn is a top school, but, as you have discovered, the area around it is pretty dicey. There was a controversy a few year back where the president of Penn was caught supressing reports on the level of local crime. I guess it depends on how street smart your daughter is (or can be made to be). Good luck--and congratulations on having such a smart kid!
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
Newtsche, 3/17/2013 12:54:35 PM (No. 9229499)
In the comments following the article, from Tonya --
"I grew up black in a mixed school. I can confirm that we are taught to be racist by the teachers and most parents. Teachers will tolerate and even promote acts of agression against whites, while at the same time telling stories about white privilege. I found myself feeling sorry for many whites that were bullied for no reason. While it was reversed in the past, blacks have now assumed the roll of the bully and racist."
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
planetgeo, 3/17/2013 12:57:40 PM (No. 9229503)
What no one dares speak is that it´s really not about racism, it´s about culture. And the truth is that today, black Americans (NOT Africans or blacks in other countries) have developed and sustain a terrible, self-defeating, and disgusting culture. And worse, it is being protected and facilitated by absurdly misguided and disingenuous "leaders" on all sides.
Until intelligent, truthful, and courageous leaders (like Ben Carson, for example) stand up and encourage black Americans to discard the dregs of their culture, there is no hope whatsoever for them to succeed in life or for this country to emerge from this madness.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
Tall Oak, 3/17/2013 1:12:02 PM (No. 9229524)
The thing that jumped out at me was that the author was suprised that an old-timer used the N-word so conversationally. The idea that a society has had to adjust to 12 year olds selling "OC", drug dealers operate openly, personal property is for the taking, and being mugged is just a fact of life has become an acceptable standard in or near a "bad neighborhood" is in itself revealing.
I have found that when I state that I am not a personal racist, but I am a social racist, I get to comment on how I feel about their chosen lifestyle and how I can´t change it. I judge a person by their deeds, not their color, I do the same for any social group. It doesn´t matter if you´re black, it matters if you´re a decent person or not.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
Distorted, 3/17/2013 1:40:04 PM (No. 9229548)
The kaka-sub-culture, the subject of the piece, has given us the kakocracy that rules us. Philadelphia is creeping over the country one 110% black voting precinct at a time.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
formerNYer, 3/17/2013 3:27:08 PM (No. 9229670)
FTA: Temple students are prime prey, the cop says.
I´m sure Temple is a Gun-Free zone, you think the criminals don´t know that?
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
woofwoofwoof, 3/17/2013 5:18:28 PM (No. 9229811)
Article is a lot less edgy than I expected.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
usltn, 3/17/2013 5:35:52 PM (No. 9229841)
Article was total B.S.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
ColonialAmerican1623, 3/18/2013 1:34:56 AM (No. 9230348)
It´s the truth of the matter as the ghetto spreads, whites are being sent to the reservation ?
Shouldn´t we blame Washington and the lack of a real education vs AA ?
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