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The Lyndon Johnson tapes:
Richard Nixon´s ´treason´

BBC, by David Taylor

Original Article

Posted By:Pluperfect, 3/17/2013 5:57:21 AM

After the Watergate scandal taught Richard Nixon the consequences of recording White House conversations none of his successors have dared to do it. But Nixon wasn´t the first. He got the idea from his predecessor Lyndon Johnson, who felt there was an obligation to allow historians to eventually eavesdrop on his presidency. "They will provide history with the bark off," Johnson told his wife, Lady Bird. The final batch of tapes released by the LBJ library covers 1968, and allows us to hear Johnson´s private conversations as his Democratic Party tore itself apart over the question of Vietnam.

  

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Reply 1 - Posted by: LAW428, 3/17/2013 7:20:23 AM     (No. 9229031)

Let´s talk about the Johnson tapes and Nixon´s "treason" while overlooking the treasonous, America destroying acts of Obama. Pay no attention to that foreign fraud, currently occupying the WH, who is far worse than anything we´ve ever encountered in Washington before.


Reply 2 - Posted by: Malia2012, 3/17/2013 7:22:18 AM     (No. 9229032)

Ahhh, yes. LBJ, the "great society" inventor who, before Carter and now obama, was the greatest example of how much damage a demonrat can do when given free reign at the W.H. LBJ was such a hero of the left, that about 80% of this country has NEVER even heard of him. BTW, his name should never be used in the same sentence as President Nixon´s. Leave it to BBC to provide honest "information" about U.S history to the great unwashed out here. What a joke!


   

 

  


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: Catherine, 3/17/2013 7:51:28 AM     (No. 9229057)

Give it a rest. Nixon was a good president. And Watergate is a joke compared to what Clinton and Obama have done and are doing to this country.


Reply 4 - Posted by: Judith, 3/17/2013 8:41:44 AM     (No. 9229102)

Actually, my favorite tape of Pres. Johnson was the one before he became the potus. He was talking on the phone with the kennedy brothers, j and b, and was trying to persuade them that something had to be done about civil rights for the black Americans. The brothers were VERY opposed to that action and their prejudices were exposed. It made news for a short period of time (they played it here in MA just once or twice), and then has faded from view.


Reply 5 - Posted by: eoddad, 3/17/2013 8:53:37 AM     (No. 9229114)

The Democrat Party has aided and abetted our enemies especially Communist all my life. If and that is a Big if Nixon was up to no good why is this the only time we have heard of it. Nixon like Johnson, also gave us a lot of the lefty policies we are suffering with today, but I don´t buy the authors spin. Now he can go back and look at Sen. Kennedy undermining Reagan at the height of the Cold War with direct secret negotiation with the Kremlin.


Reply 6 - Posted by: Freeloader, 3/17/2013 8:55:56 AM     (No. 9229118)

FTA: "They will provide history with the bark off,´ Johnson told his wife..."

And whatever became of the ballot box in Alice, Texas that decided the Senate Democratic Primary for "Landslide" Lyndon in 1948?


Reply 7 - Posted by: uno, 3/17/2013 8:59:45 AM     (No. 9229129)

Amen #3!
While this article really doesn´t focus on Watergate, we can depend on the media to keep Watergate alive by attaching the word "gate" to the scandal du-jour. It´s ancient history in political terms, as is Johnson, and a nothing-burger in real terms, but they will keep it alive as a distraction. Just like so-called "Black leaders" keep slavery and racism alive as their cash cow, when the media can´t report on real news,hey there´s always Watergate and Nixon. After all, who wants to hear about a Constitution ripping, socialist lotting the treasury to pander to and cultivate a voter base of dumbed-down, barely aware, self-absorbed, media-influenced, celebrity-obsessed, Food-Stamp wielding, Escalade driving, Kool-Aid drinking, government-dependent, entitlement rich, busted-azz, Federal free-loaders along with gullible, White guilt-ridden, Birkenstock-wearing, bottled-water-drinking, Politically Correct, Xanax-disabled, spineless, liberal lemmings and two times stupid Obama-voting Lo Fo Honey Boo Boo union slugs! After all, that´s not real news!


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: uno, 3/17/2013 9:01:31 AM     (No. 9229131)

Oops - That should read "looting".


Reply 9 - Posted by: StormCnter, 3/17/2013 9:02:56 AM     (No. 9229132)

#4, one of the less serious LBJ tapes is the one where he is speaking on the phone with his tailor and wanting to make sure the new pants he´s ordering have plenty of room in the crotch. Johnson goes on and on, getting more and more graphic, and the poor tailor, one of the Haggars, is reduced to near silence.

http://whitehousetapes.net/clip/lyndon-johnson-joe-haggar-lbj-orders-some-new-haggar-pants


Reply 10 - Posted by: JimS, 3/17/2013 9:46:42 AM     (No. 9229202)

Yes, the same LBJ who in the Senate adamantly opposed the Republican-initiated civil rights bills, obstructed them, and watered them down.
The same LBJ, who when given the opportunity to co-op the Civil Rights Act of 1965 as a Democrat bill (such that the Dems would steal the credit), supported it publicly in a callous, calculating political maneuver that would "get those ni****s to vote Democrat for the next 200 years." An actual quote as overhead by a black AF1 steward, and written in his memoirs many years later.
LBJ was just a lying, thieving, deceitful Dem in a long line of lying, thieving, deceitful Dems. Obama, on the other hand, has raised this to an art form by adding "thug, race-baiter, and divider" to the job description.


Reply 11 - Posted by: zoidberg, 3/17/2013 10:14:04 AM     (No. 9229240)

I love the Haggar tape because we get to hear the true LBJ.


Reply 12 - Posted by: toddh, 3/17/2013 11:07:28 AM     (No. 9229316)

This article assumes that President Johnson´s talks would have been successful, and that the North Vietnamese would abide by what they had agreed to. It of course does not offer the possibility that the Nixon-Chennault (flying tigress ;-) communication to South Vietnam saved the South from a "successful" talk followed by a massive invasion.


   

 



 
Reply 13 - Posted by: MDConservative, 3/17/2013 11:38:19 AM     (No. 9229388)

Let´s start with this from the article: "The FBI had bugged the ambassador´s phone and transcripts of Anna Chennault´s calls were sent to the White House."

No warrant, no problem.

It´s amazing to think the South Vietnamese were such puppets of Nixon. Makes one wonder what the deal was that LBJ was offering them. He sure sounds like a desperate man...helicoptering to the convention...delusional.


Reply 14 - Posted by: Muguy, 3/17/2013 12:10:27 PM     (No. 9229443)

LBJ says Nixon sabotaged the peace talks....

RMN actually ran his first term campaign (´68)as though HE was going to bring peace. Instead he kept it going for five more years, and said in 1972 that "peace was at hand". He was a liar in 1968 and was still a liar in ´72.

The REAL story is that LBJ fell for a pretext of an attack on one of our ships off the coast of Vietnam-- the first report, he strugged off, so the Maddox and Turner Joy were moved inside international waters and were "attacked" again.

Little did we know back then that we were making secret commando raids inside Vietnam and were being chased out, and the radar operators on both ships said no shots were ever fired on our ships!

So LBJ gets a Gulf of Tonkin "blank check" and HE gets us into a war with over 600,000 soldiers involved at one point. That is why he didn´t run for re-election.

JFK had determined that a war there was unwinable and started to get us out of there, and of course, LBJ reversed that not wanting to go against the intelligence people and the military hawks.

Interesting seeing how LBJ said Nixon had "blood on his hands"--the pot calling the kettle black!


Reply 15 - Posted by: EQKimball, 3/17/2013 12:57:11 PM     (No. 9229502)

Article III, Sec. 3 of the U.S. Constitution defines treason. "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court." By advising South Vietnam that it would get a better deal under a Nixon administration, and suggesting that it suspend talks with the North, Nixon did not levy war against the United States, nor assist nor give aid and comfort to North Vietnam. Engaging in a warrantless wiretap of the Nixon campaign, on the other hand, was illegal. Sounds almost like, um, Watergate.


Reply 16 - Posted by: 4Justice, 3/17/2013 4:51:45 PM     (No. 9229768)

Johnson kept the Vietnam war going in order to make millions off his heavy equipment business. If anyone was a traitor, it was LBJ. He also destroyed the nuclear black family and created a class of people caught in perpetual poverty with the help of their chosen puppets...the token blacks they chose to promote into political office as well as "community leaders" who they bought off with money, power and influence in order to keep their people down and dependent. Phooey on LBJ.


Reply 17 - Posted by: Distorted, 3/18/2013 12:02:59 AM     (No. 9230294)

Our site bias has gone a bit screwy in these comments. If true, these acts by Nixon would be the most heinous and injurious by any American since Benedict Arnold. They could not be excused even by the fact Nixon had the election stolen from him by LBJ and JFK in 1960. The possibility that he sabatoged a legitimate chance for peace five long years before 22,000 fellow citizens paid the ultimate price and many more were maimed and injured physically and mentally solely for his plitical advantage would certainly earn him a roasting place in hell.


   

 

  


 

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