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Physicists say they have found a Higgs boson
Associated Press, by John Heilprin
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Posted By:Drive, 3/14/2013 8:12:46 AM
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| GENEVA - Physicists said Thursday they are now confident they have discovered a crucial subatomic particle known as a Higgs boson - a major discovery that will go a long ways toward helping them explain why the universe is the way it is. They made the statement following study of the data gathered last year from the world´s largest atom-smasher, which lies beneath the Swiss-French border outside Geneva. The European Organization for Nuclear Research, or CERN, said that what they found last year was, indeed, a version of what is popularly referred to as the "God particle"
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
Dragonslayer2, 3/14/2013 8:19:40 AM (No. 9224222)
I didn´t know there was one lost.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
HotRodLincoln, 3/14/2013 8:20:45 AM (No. 9224225)
if Clinton hadn´t canceled the Super Collider project that was halfway completed out in Waxahachie TX the USA would have discovered the Higgs Boson years ago and we would have a time machine up and running any day now... well maybe no time machine but you know what I mean. Clinton did it to burn Texas and get back at Bush.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
RayLRiv, 3/14/2013 8:28:07 AM (No. 9224244)
I didn´t know Higgins lost his bassoon. I imagine TC, Rick and Magnum all conspired to get rid of it...
..oh, wait, never mind,,,
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
mindyourbubble, 3/14/2013 8:32:21 AM (No. 9224256)
I get Higgscups all the time. A little bicarb and glass of water and all is well. By the way, God created the Higgs so that all the physicists at Cern have something to do. So as Einstein and Newton would say, The Higgs is up.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Hermoine, 3/14/2013 8:53:48 AM (No. 9224307)
FTA: "it is clear that we are dealing with a Higgs boson though we still have a long way to go to know what kind of Higgs boson it is."
Well, I´m certainly not interested until you know what kind of Higgs Boson it is.
Seriously, these geeked out scientists crack me up.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Rinktum, 3/14/2013 9:15:45 AM (No. 9224355)
Sheldon has done it! Way to go Dr. Cooper.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
bugboy, 3/14/2013 9:20:43 AM (No. 9224363)
Glad to see man has found his god!
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
shamus, 3/14/2013 9:24:55 AM (No. 9224372)
I´d be more impressed if politicians in DC found some common sense.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Chuzzles, 3/14/2013 9:25:50 AM (No. 9224375)
The only time I have heard this particle´s name mentioned is on The Big Bang Theory show. I find it facinating when the actors on this show (or any show) can rattle off stuff like this like they really are physicists.
I know next to nothing about physicist stuff, but I think it is exciting when things like this are found.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
M2, 3/14/2013 9:36:12 AM (No. 9224395)
The Higgs boson has been searched for for quite a long time. If you recall, some scientists called it "The God Particle", which they were roundly criticized by their fellow secularist scientists for. However, if they have indeed found one, I´d be very interested to follow the story.
However, given the state of the scientific community these days, I don´t think much of their chances of actually finding something as important as this has the potential of being. It could explain much of where the universe came from, how long it´s been in existence (Christians say it was created, not eternal), and how old it is. The ramifications of a "Theory of Everything" is staggering, but hopes of such a discovery in the current publish-or-perish climate are dim.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
revdeppisch316, 3/14/2013 9:43:17 AM (No. 9224414)
When they discover the ONE who created it--now there´s a discovery!
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Dataman, 3/14/2013 9:45:43 AM (No. 9224416)
Awesome science. Fabulous equipment. Extremely costly. Unfortunately, science of this size and dimension ould not exist without enormous taxpayer support. But I am wondering at the discovery. If the collider was built with this much cost over so many years, and they already found the little guy, what are they going to do with the equipment now? I suspect that is why we are now, suddenly, hearing about different types of Higgs. Unfortunately, like most taxpayer funded projects, this thing will be running and eating up money for the next century. I hope they continue to make huge discoveries, but I doubt they will ever get to turn it off.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
shamus, 3/14/2013 9:46:26 AM (No. 9224418)
Mixing science with religion leads to things like Scientology and Christian Science.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
LZK, 3/14/2013 9:47:53 AM (No. 9224421)
Good one -- poster #1 -- but WE all know God will reveal Himself when He is ready....
I think that Pope Francis is the first shot across the bow.....
Take heart Bill O´Reilly -- you´re gonna have some help now....Watch out Bob Beckel.......
LZK
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
ladydawgfan, 3/14/2013 9:49:40 AM (No. 9224427)
RE #9:
Actually, Mayim Bialik, who plays Amy, has a PHD in Neuroscience, so when you see her rattling off those terms amd references and carving up "brains," she is basically playing herself. I saw an interview with her once. She is one smart cookie!!!!
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Arby, 3/14/2013 9:56:24 AM (No. 9224443)
Finding the Higgs boson and, again, seeing Fauxbama´s fragrant and flagrant lies . . . this is shaping up to be a pretty good day so far. And welcome, Pope Francis.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
OperaBuff, 3/14/2013 10:17:05 AM (No. 9224483)
Oh yeah?? Well, it just so happens I lost a Higgs boson the last time I was beneath the Swiss-French border. I was smashed at the time.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
Joonie, 3/14/2013 10:19:11 AM (No. 9224487)
#13 1. Christian Science and Scientology have nothing in common. 2. Perhaps you could do some research prior to making blanket statements about things you know nothing about.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
Bumblebee, 3/14/2013 10:22:47 AM (No. 9224498)
I hope they keep discovering the intricate parts of the universe ,but they are deceiving themselves if they believe they can presume it proves the non existence of God who is after all the invisible power that holds all things together. I find it amusing that some people think that ´science´ is separate from God.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
steelbreeze, 3/14/2013 10:25:13 AM (No. 9224505)
Cool.Maybe it can explain why we have a skinny-armed commie loving little girl as CIC in the greated country on earth for the second time.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
geminale, 3/14/2013 10:37:52 AM (No. 9224542)
I´m personally looking forward to the headline, "Scientists Discover God" without the particle nonsense.
In every generation there is a discovery that changes science´s perception of God´s created world, but never has the discovery proved the non-existence of God, and none ever will.
True scientists rejoice in such discoveries as they show the "how" of the activities of a Creator God. This is why the discovery of Higgs-Bosun excites me, but does not frighten me.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
Eheu Fugaces, 3/14/2013 10:38:42 AM (No. 9224546)
And Who created the Higgs boson?
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
sherlock1, 3/14/2013 10:52:22 AM (No. 9224591)
How much more would they have to crank up the juice on that puppy to discover Obama´s college transcripts?
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
jhboatwright, 3/14/2013 10:53:56 AM (No. 9224597)
Lord 0 will blame finding or not finding it on 1) Bush (either or both or any) 2) Conservatives 3) Repubs 4) Global Warming 5) Religious Nuts 6) Firearms Owners 7) Rush
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
Butch59, 3/14/2013 11:01:42 AM (No. 9224620)
I have to agree with #8. Good one.
Even if they find dozens of Higgs bosons, in my view it will NEVER prove the absence of God. And it will never answer a few simple questions. Such as, If the universe was created by a "big bang" then what was there before? And who or what caused the bang? And what caused the phenomenal symmetry of all the universe? These are just a few simple questions I´d like to have an answer to before I proclaim there is no God (which I will never do).
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
snowoutlaw, 3/14/2013 11:09:12 AM (No. 9224636)
Just think, it only took $10 billion (not mentioned in this story). Obama spends that like pocket change and gets less than nothing for it. The number of people employeed by this must be near a thousand, oh but we have Solendra and Gov Motors.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
Silly Old Me, 3/14/2013 11:14:21 AM (No. 9224657)
Does this have anything to do with Global Warming?
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
penelopewaits, 3/14/2013 11:30:08 AM (No. 9224704)
Shouldn´t there be two? Oh, I thought they found Higgs bosom!
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
John318, 3/14/2013 11:41:26 AM (No. 9224742)
It´s all very simple: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." Genesis 1:1. That don´t take a rocket scientist to figure out.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
shamus, 3/14/2013 12:05:45 PM (No. 9224790)
Religion is based on belief. Science is based on repeatable experiment. They really have nothing to do with one another, even though it is possible to be religious and pursue science. Scientology and Christian Science are both based on the faith of believers rather than any kind of science. This was the point I was making earlier (which apparently lacked clarity).
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
duhem, 3/14/2013 12:28:08 PM (No. 9224841)
There are lots of blogs and articles about the "non-godness" of the Higgs boson. Here´s one link: http://rationalcatholicscientist.com/?p=160 which has more.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
duhem, 3/14/2013 12:30:19 PM (No. 9224849)
I should add, one of the links in previous blog referred to has this quote: "Without God scientific discoveries have no meaning" which says it all.
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
mrduc, 3/14/2013 12:58:24 PM (No. 9224900)
They should have given the job to horndog Klintoon. He´d have found Higgs bosom in a nanosecond.
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
janjan, 3/14/2013 1:52:23 PM (No. 9225004)
Good to know that these scientists put a lot more research into proving the discovery of the Higgs boson than they did ´Global Warming´. Perhaps they could expedite the project if the Democrats find a way to tax it.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
veritas, 3/14/2013 4:55:20 PM (No. 9225360)
Advances in physics are some of the most important things humans do.
Rerum causas cognoscere.
"Conflicts" between science and religion, when examined, seem to me always grounded in unsupportable initial assumptions on one side or the other. See Gould´s "Non-Overlapping Magesteria" for starters.
#2: Correct about the Texas Super Collider. But its still great to visit Fermilab.
Also, I´m working on a fictional "biography" of the inventor of time travel [b. 2045; d. 1622, at age 784]. Let me tell you, it leads to some mind-benders! Clarke´s "any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" is right in the middle of everything. Technology rapidly becomes incomprehensible. Also, what and how much can be "brought back," and how can it be introduced, without reducing the present population to mere pets? Asimov´s "Foundation" books have something to contribute, but I read them long ago, and don´t have time to do so again, now. Hmmm.
#15: Interesting. Thanks.
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
snakeoil, 3/14/2013 5:39:32 PM (No. 9225403)
If they can find another Higgs boson, the two can get together and have a little Higgie.
#30. There aren´t any repeatable experiments in cosmology or paleontology. Basically it´s guesswork. One problem with many scientists is they spend their lives looking for data that fits their model instead of a model that fits their data. Such as dark matter and dark energy which you can´t dispute because it´s dark. All of this is interesting but I´m just a skeptic.
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
franq, 3/14/2013 6:04:09 PM (No. 9225437)
Don´t know if time travel is feasible, but anti-gravity devices (e.g. flying cars) would be cool.
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
theeo, 3/14/2013 6:44:05 PM (No. 9225491)
#35 ... veritas (truth) vs fact. Fact is objective reality as proven to exist. Truth is subjective expression of what is allegedly proven.
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Reply 39 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy, 3/14/2013 7:52:35 PM (No. 9225560)
Yep, #14. All we need now is the Obie anti-particle.
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Reply 40 - Posted by:
roytheelectrician, 3/14/2013 8:15:06 PM (No. 9225589)
I believe the fundamental idea attached to the Higgs-boson, is that it will show that matter can just appear from nothing.
Liberal scientest (90%+) have been needing this for a longtime.
They were forced to except the big bang theory which supported the creationist explaination of the universe.
Who the heck is going to be able to understand all the math behind this thing. They will be the athority that will explain it to us.
You see this is easy now, they will be able to show that matter can just appear....Poof, like majic, no God neded here.
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Reply 41 - Posted by:
shamus, 3/14/2013 9:11:51 PM (No. 9225635)
There certainly are repeatable experiments in cosmology. Measurements of red shifts would be one example.
Dark matter and dark energy are conjectures put forward to explain unexpected experimental data. There are ongoing efforts to find dark matter, but none has yet been successful so far as I know.
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Reply 42 - Posted by:
kono, 3/14/2013 9:31:00 PM (No. 9225666)
The Higgs Boson will be Time´s "man of the year".
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Reply 43 - Posted by:
kono, 3/14/2013 9:38:24 PM (No. 9225678)
Regarding science and religion (which are complementary by nature), some of the best insights and explanations come from Guy Consolmagno. He´s written a number of things for readers at different levels. A PhD in planetary science and Jesuit in the Vatican Observatory.
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Reply 44 - Posted by:
clw54, 3/14/2013 10:15:27 PM (No. 9225725)
I thought they found one a few months ago. This is like Kerry releasing his military records. He´d release them and say they were all of them. Then he´d release them again and say the same thing.
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Reply 45 - Posted by:
Penney, 3/14/2013 10:33:16 PM (No. 9225753)
Dittos, Reply #2! The Clintons´ tenure set in motion a tragic fuure regarding science and America´s national secrets. ...Remember that´s when Clinton´s Sec. of Energy, Bill Richardso(D-N.M.) became so chummy with China and our nuclear discoveries somehow became their´s?
dem pols have no shame
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On Friday, Sean Hannity brought Pat Smith, mother of the late Sean Smith, on his radio program. The 34-year-old information management officer was one of four Americans murdered in the Benghazi embassy attack on September 11, 2012. In the chilling interview, a distraught Ms. Smith, in tears, pleaded for answers and spoke of the efforts to silence her. Ms. Smith first relayed how her son, prior to the attack, requested additional security in advance and warned the State Department: He did tell them, ahead of time, he typed it into his little typewriter over there,
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Vanishing workforce weighs on growth
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Washington Post, by Jim Tankersley
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Posted By: Dreadnought- 4/6/2013 11:28:59 PM
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Put out an all-points bulletin: Millions of Americans have gone missing from the workforce. Every month that those would-be workers are gone raises the odds that they might never come back, dimming the prospects for future economic growth. The vanishing trend is more than a decade old, but it accelerated during the Great Recession. Throughout 2012, economists held out hope that it had stopped. But then came Friday’s jobs report, and hopes were dashed. The Labor Department reported that the U.S. labor force — everyone who has a job or is looking for one — shrank
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The Secrets of Princeton
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New York Times, by Ross Douthat
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Posted By: Oblio- 4/7/2013 8:08:09 AM
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Susan Patton, the Princeton alumna who became famous for her letter urging Ivy League women to use their college years to find a mate, has been denounced as a traitor to feminism, to coeducation, to the university ideal. But really she’s something much more interesting: a traitor to her class. Her betrayal consists of being gauche enough to acknowledge publicly a truth that everyone who’s come up through Ivy League culture knows intuitively —
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Chelsea Clinton doesn´t close door to public office
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USA Today, by Catalina Camia
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Posted By: jackson- 4/8/2013 10:23:20 AM
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Chelsea Clinton has raised her profile in the last few days, which sparked the inevitable question about the former first daughter´s future: Will she ever be like Mom and Dad and run for office? Clinton, 33, essentially said "maybe" in an interview that aired Monday on NBC´s Today show. "Right now I´m grateful to live in a city, a state and a country where I strongly support my mayor, my governor, my president and my senators and my representative," said Clinton, whose father, Bill, was president from 1993-2001 and her mother, Hillary
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Is going gluten-free healthier for everybody?
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The Week, by Staff
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Posted By: NorthernDog- 4/7/2013 11:28:27 AM
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Gluten-free diets are all the rage, but they can be dangerous if not done right. What is gluten? It´s the spongy complex of proteins, found naturally in wheat, rye, and barley, that gives elasticity to dough and allows it to rise. When flour is moistened and either kneaded or mixed into dough, gluten molecules form an elastic, microscopic latticework that traps the carbon dioxide produced when yeast ferments, causing dough to inflate like a hot air balloon. Baking hardens the gluten, which helps the finished product keep its shape. Wheat — and gluten — is ubiquitous in the American diet.
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